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3:38 AM
Heya
How's everyone doing?
 
Well.
 
Good :)
Its tough to meet teenage programmers 'round my area
 
 
4 hours later…
8:07 AM
@Sam I like the dark version better, but it sure is pretty! Which one are you going to use?
 
 
1 hour later…
Sam
9:10 AM
@Unihedron Yeah, I personally prefer it too. I'll post it in the room and see what the others think...
 
@Sam can you star messages while not being in that room?
Try this: $.post('http://chat.stackoverflow.com/messages/18052783/star', {"fkey": fkey().fkey})
 
Sam
Beat me to it... :D
 
xD
I came prepared
 
Sam
Yeah, I was going to say it may be possible with sockets.
 
I'm curious if the system blocks you out though. If that's in place we also have less to do for the mind jail.
'Cuz obviously someone would abuse the library and star every single message in the world
 
Sam
9:13 AM
Yep :/ looks at frank
Ok, just loading up the console...
@Unihedron That reminds me, when I get round to adding the auto-flagging feature to Pham, I obviously won't be posting it on github.
 
xD
 
Sam
(Of course, I don't sharing the code with people I trust ;) )
 
I don't want to limit it, I just want to keep that field in a secure area where people can't use (require reflection or something) without actually hacking it
'Cuz then it's not my responsibility anymore :P
 
Sam
Sure. Ok, ready for deh test...
 
keeps refreshing transcript
Huh, it got starred. Shall we report this as a bug?
 
Sam
9:17 AM
Ah, I didn't have fiddler up.
:O
 
I got the json event of the star event, then I checked the transcript, it went from 9 stars to 10 stars.
Special message chosen so for an outspoken badge, BTW.
 
Sam
lol
 
LOL
 
Sam
It'll probably be best to report it.
 
"Disallow starring messages older than 30 days" sound good?
or 60, to be consistent with /participation
 
Sam
9:21 AM
Erm, 60 sounds a bit too long IMO. So I'd vote for 30.
 
Ok!
Fox is in our timeless room!
 
Sam
lol "timeless" :D
 
And now they're here!
 
hello
"timeless" :D
 
Sam
"they're", I guess fox brought his pack with him. :D
 
9:26 AM
@Sam Singular they. Used if you don't know the gender of the other person.
(it's male, by the way)
 
Fox and the pack of foxes
 
Sam
It's still prominently used in it's plural form (which threw-me-off for a few secs).
foxes = bots
(FOX9000)
 
@Unihedron I voted to approve your PCG edit :)
Got to go for 15 mins, cya!
 
:D
Seeya!
 
Sam
9:28 AM
Cya!
 
Yes @Sam - Another bot of Fox's, and he will have over 9000 bots.
Gotta go now, brb
 
Sam
Kk, cya!
 
Sam
LOL
 
9:47 AM
I'm back!
 
Welcome back!
 
Sam
Wb!
 
I'm back as well!
 
Sam
Wb!
 
I've found that streaming music through my phone instead of from my computer reduces the strain on computation power, so I'm doing that.
 
Sam
9:48 AM
Really?
 
That is, as long as your internet can handle.
Lately my IDE (eclipse java juno) started to lag for some weird reason, and I blame chrome beta.
 
Sam
Is there actually any diff with beta?
 
It's supposed to be better... I don't experience anything though.
It does let me set experimental stuff, which is good.
I still like my custom chromium build better, which I don't use frequently because of the lack of proper features I have yet to implement.
 
@Unihedron @Sam Y U kick me from Room for Uni and Inf???
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX For testing purposes.
 
9:52 AM
in Room for Uni and Inf on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 10 mins ago, by Sam
@Pro Ignore the kick-mute (it's only for test purposes)...
 
I think Sam's trying to kick through websockets.
 
Sam
Shhhhh!
 
Cool!
 
I'll bring in my bot here...
 
9:53 AM
hello world
 
Sam
So far I have this...
 
!!eval "hello world"
 
Sam
$.post('http://chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/kickmute/22091', 'userID={some sucker's ID}&fkey=' + fkey().fkey)
 
@Unihedron What's the eval comment for JavaBot?
 
It's ##eval:(code), but the engine is not running.
I am running him on Firefox atm.
 
9:56 AM
@Unihedron oh :(
 
"Oops! Something bad happened!"
 
uh oh
 
@Unihedron You need to pass it as JSON.
 
oop
 
9:57 AM
$.post('http://chat.{domain}/rooms/kickmute/{roomID}', { "userID": "the user id", "fkey": fkey().fkey })
 
404 not found?
 
Sam
I knew that was coming...
 
I'll try to kick bot from here...
 
in Room for Uni and Inf on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 19 secs ago, by ProgramFOX
Sorry @Sam, I was testing to kick you without room owner privileges.
in Room for Uni and Inf on Meta Stack Exchange Chat, 23 secs ago, by ProgramFOX
Didn't notice that you already added me...
 
Sam
9:59 AM
np
 
@Unihedron What was wrong with your previous command?
 
Sam
$.post('http://chat.{domain}/rooms/setuseraccess/{room ID}', 'aclUserId={user ID}&userAccess=owner&fkey={fkey}')
^ that sets a user as an owner.
 
@ProgramFOX I think the server doesn't permit kicking when your fkey isn't authenticated.
 
@Unihedron Probably. Let me try here!
 
We really should write this all down somewhere.
 
Sam
10:01 AM
I am... (kinda)
 
Nope, a 404.
 
Ah!
 
Sam
Ok, you can't set yourself as owner if you're not already... (just tried)
 
Want to try out a collaborative online text editing tool? collabedit.com/bmd8w
 
Sam
Sure...
 
10:03 AM
It doesn't support markdown.
That sucks.
 
Why not Google Docs?
 
Yeah, I like google docs better.
 
Sam
^
$.post('http://chat.{domain}/rooms/setuseraccess/{room ID}', 'aclUserId={user ID}&userAccess=read-write&fkey={fkey}')
^ sets a user to normal privs.
(removes RO privs if the user is a RO)
 
What's the level for "no special access"?
 
Sam
You mean like normal user privs?
 
10:08 AM
Yeah:
 
@Unihedron That can be figured out by removing my write access.
@Sam ^
 
$.post('http://chat.{domain}/rooms/setuseraccess/{room ID}', 'aclUserId={user ID}&userAccess=none&fkey={fkey}')
Maybe none?
 
Perhaps.
 
Sam
no spec (IIRC) =
3 mins ago, by Sam
$.post('http://chat.{domain}/rooms/setuseraccess/{room ID}', 'aclUserId={user ID}&userAccess=read-write&fkey={fkey}')
^ read-write
 
@Sam No, with read-write, I have explicit write access.
 
10:10 AM
@Sam ^
 
Sam
Ok... lemme check...
 
Let's not extend our experimenting session over two rooms. xD It's hard to keep up
 
Sam
:D
 
:D
 
Sam
10:10 AM
moves to Inf's pond
 
Are you running the websocket listener JS too, @Pro?
 
@Unihedron Nope. Firefox doesn't have one.
But it does look at POST requests, and I am running my console.
But I cannot check web sockets using it.
 
Sam
Ah ha!
no spec = userAccess=remove
 
@ProgramFOX Try use:
$.post('/chats/651/events', {
            since: 0,
            mode: 'Events',
            msgCount: 1,
            fkey: fkey().fkey
        }).success(function (eve) {
            console.log(eve.time);
            // call ws-auth to get the websocket url
            $.post('/ws-auth', { roomid: 651, fkey: fkey().fkey }).success(function (au) {
                console.log(au);
                // start the webscoket
                var ws = new WebSocket(au.url + '?l=' + eve.time.toString());
 
Thanks!
 
10:13 AM
Change the room id of course
 
I did, but just once :P
 
Sam
@ProgramFOX Or...
 
Should I fix and post my userscript?
 
re-runs script
 
Sam
Just trying to get my shortened version...
 
10:14 AM
It runs now.
 
Sam
$.post('http://chat.{domain}/chats/{room ID}/events', 'since=0&mode=Events&msgCount=1&fkey=' + fkey().fkey).success(function (o)
{
    $.post('http://chat.{domain}/ws-auth', 'roomid={room ID}&fkey=' + fkey().fkey).success(function(oo)
    {
        var ws = new WebSocket(oo.url + '?l=' + o.time);
        ws.onmessage = function (e)
        {
            console.log(e.data);
        };
    });
});
 
Got to go for a few hours, cya!
 
Seeya!
 
10:58 AM
Hi
 
hi
 
Sam
Hiya
 
Do I fall in this category ?
 
@TheLittleNaruto ?
 
@TheLittleNaruto :o
 
11:01 AM
Well I am a baby, I am 5 years old. And it's a teenage room ? :O
 
No age restriction! :D Hi @TheLittleNaruto
 
No age restriction, but be mature. General programming and life discussion.
 
Thanks Uni . So kind of you xD
 
I wrote it myself :)
 
Oh wait, it's you again :P
 
11:02 AM
So yeah
 
Yeah! xD
 
Why aren't you in your home room?
 
There is no one
So wondering
 
There's MRS and me... Although MRS is like the person who idles in every single room
oh :P
 
lol
true!
 
11:04 AM
So yeah, there is no one... xP
While you're here, what's new?
 
Nothing much, I have bought tickets for Mumbai Comicons
 
Ohh, what's that?
Oh hi @its_justjack, got carried away, sorreh :P
 
Ahmad knows well.
 
Ha, he's a fancy person :P
 
Shhh ;)
 
11:07 AM
Oh! I see. Congrats!
 
Thanks, I am pretty excited !
I can see
Leaving now
Cya
 
 
2 hours later…
1:19 PM
I'm back!
 
wb
 
 
1 hour later…
2:38 PM
Thoughts on mawersoft.co.uk/jos ?
 
@its_justjack your website?
 
@its_justjack You should use "Log in" (a verb) instead of "Login" (a noun).
But aside from that, it looks nice!
 
@ProgramFOX Kk, will do
Let me create a demo account for you
 
@its_justjack It looks awful to me that you have no doctype and no head and body tags.
 
feh
@ProgramFOX It's just a php include file anyway
I have somehow broken the sql registration process
 
2:51 PM
@its_justjack So? The output does not contain head, body, and a doctype.
 
username stackdemo password stackdemo
 
yay!
@its_justjack "4 files in this directory" and I just see 1.
 
The other three are hidden/system files. One is index.php, one is .htaccess etc
 
These should not be counted.
 
Yes they should. There ARE 4 files in the directory, just not all of them visible
 
2:55 PM
@its_justjack It's confusing if a user has 100 documents and want to see the count, then they don't want to see the hidden files.
Suggestion:
> 1 visible file + 3 hidden files (total: 4 files in this directory)
 
 
2 hours later…
5:00 PM
@its_justjack Y U NO XHTML?
 
@bjb568 -_-
 
@bjb568 +1 I agree
Or at least, it needs a head and body tag.
Because I also like HTML5.
 
@bjb568 +1, tl;dr: is an actual question
 
Technially it is valid as HTML5, but still ugly ;P
 
I'm not sure what it does either…
 
5:13 PM
o/
 
\o
 
\o/
 
\\o//
 
\m/
 
\o\
 
5:14 PM
o
/|\
/ \
 
pls
 
\v/
 
 O
 |
\v/
Yay!
 
\    /
o----
/    \
 
mod is around here
 
5:16 PM
downloading windows xp
yay
 
but why ?
 
@TGMCians What?
 
@its_justjack :O
 
@its_justjack Where from? I've been looking for a fking iso everywhere
 
@its_justjack u suk
 
5:17 PM
> You have already voted, but the voting has been cleared by a moderator
see
you can not star message here
 
@TGMCians That's just a false message.
 
@TGMCians No, you also get that message if a chat msg has been unpinned automatically.
 
@bjb568 Both for internal uses, one a server and one a client
 
@TGMCians I can.
 
Who's starring random messages?
 
5:18 PM
7
Q: Does pinned post in a chat room get moderator attention?

TheLittleNarutoI tried to pin this message again. But I got an alert: You have already voted, but the voting has been cleared by a moderator So, does a pinned message get moderator attention every time when a message post gets pinned. or someone may have flagged this message post?

 
@Mateon1 Me, for testing.
 
@its_justjack Why?
 
Ah
 
7
A: Does pinned post in a chat room get moderator attention?

balphaNeither, that message is just a little imprecise. The "moderator" in this case is the automatic job that removes pins. Pinned messages are limited to being pinned for 14 days.

 
@bjb568 Why not?
 
5:18 PM
someone flagged my message
 
@its_justjack it sux
 
again
btw who is doing this
 
@its_justjack If you ever have to provide Windows XP compatibility, run away from the company you work on. If you ever think Windows XP is worth using, think again. It's worse than OS X.
 
@bjb568 Kinda miss xp. I grew up with 2000, then xp
 
@its_justjack You actually had to use WINDOWS?!
5
 
5:19 PM
@its_justjack Use a mac!
 
I feel so sorry for you.
 
@its_justjack Use Windows 3.1!
 
@ProgramFOX falls off chair
 
I have Win3.1 on a virtual machine.
 
@ProgramFOX Ok that was the case
 
5:20 PM
I grew up with XP and I was looking for an iso image everywhere
I want to set up a VM for.... uses
 
@Unihedron A client wanted the application to run on Windows. I built the entire app for linux-only use
 
1 min ago, by Unihedron
@its_justjack If you ever have to provide Windows XP compatibility, run away from the company you work on. If you ever think Windows XP is worth using, think again. It's worse than OS X.
 
@Mateon1 It's on my private ftp server
 
2 mins ago, by Unihedron
7
Q: Does pinned post in a chat room get moderator attention?

TheLittleNarutoI tried to pin this message again. But I got an alert: You have already voted, but the voting has been cleared by a moderator So, does a pinned message get moderator attention every time when a message post gets pinned. or someone may have flagged this message post?

 
Well, that helps a lot
 
5:21 PM
@its_justjack That's stupid.
 
Ah Yes I see Uni
 
@Mateon1 Good luck finding a password
 
Thanks
I didn't know that
 
@its_justjack I don't even know the URL
 
@Unihedron Also I wanted an XP machine to play in. Also, my little brother wanted a pc to play on, and I had an old laptop that ran 98, so I want to bump it up to xp. It will be slow but he won't mind.
 
5:24 PM
@its_justjack Make him use a linux. Kids can't use a computer. You gotta help change that!!
 
@Unihedron It's a very old pc, and it won't even run 12.04 LTS! I had to go back to 10.04 or so for it to boot!
 
Did you implement this because of this "MY GOD, IT'S FULL OF STARS!" in tavern...? — TGMCians 22 secs ago
 
@its_justjack Why don't you allow a hotlink?
 
Just use Arch Linux
 
@ProgramFOX It's a cloudflare thing
 
5:26 PM

Another not so well known bithack!

Jul 23 at 15:04, 30 minutes total – 42 messages, 3 users, 2 stars

Bookmarked 8 secs ago by Unihedron

 
@its_justjack ah
 
@Mateon1 Not debian, no apt-get, not happy
 
But sudo pacman -Syu
 
@Mateon1 Wha?
Free game of pacman!
No, I know what pacman is.
 
pacman - Package manager
 
5:27 PM
package manager
 
package*
 
Fuck me with the spelling today!
 
When was last winterbash @Pro?
@its_justjack I'm not surprised, it's not the only day you come to english discrepancies.
 
-S - Sync, -Sy force update package list, -Su update all packages
 
@Unihedron Started somewhere in December 2013, ended 4th Jan 2014.
 
5:28 PM
:O
:D
My last christmas was basically how my family went out to vacation and I spent my time wondering what to do with my life ~_~
^_^
 
@its_justjack No music >:(
 
@Unihedron The music is epic
 
every step that I take is another mistake to you~♪
(cue uni sings to himself for the next hour)
 
5:34 PM
@its_justjack no one-box :(
 
@Unihedron ADD NEW FEATURE REQUEST NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW!
 
@its_justjack Do it yourself, I don't post simple feature requests, last time I requested github one-box I made a stack snippet with a demo ;)
For now I'll just rant about it
 
@Unihedron -_-
 
in Java, 1 hour ago, by Unihedron
What is a chat room anyway? Just a transcript of terrible opinions and people ranting and help vamps lurking :P
;)
 
@its_justjack Nice chord voicing.
What song is that anyway?
 
5:37 PM
@bjb568 That's me singing with lots of reverb :)
 
:P
 
@bjb568 "o holy night" by commitstrip, formerly "we are coders"
 
going to sleep after closing questions, and prepare for school tomorrow morning
 
@Unihedron Oh, they're referring to fridays, the pastafarianist holiday?
 
5:39 PM
@bjb568 :)
slow down... :P
 
@Unihedron Eek, reminds me I have a bunch of homework.
 
Eeek, do your homework! Be a good kitten :P
 
@bjb568 I've done like a textbook page of maths, now I've got deutsch!
 
Is homework really that hard? You people study GCSE right?
 
Still boring. Not hard, just boring
 
5:43 PM
Is it GCSE?
 
My keyboard has a key that turns on and off the internet, and it has a little light on it which is always on. Bit annoying.
@Unihedron Some of it :)
 
Well I study HKDSE syllabus, which is way ahead of your GCSE. I almost opt'd for IB since it was slightly too easy for me, but decided to make good use of it and learn more online.
For your information, GCSE university graduation = HKDSE 10th grade
 
*slowly slides away from @Unihedron *
No way!
Look what I just found:
I made this when I was 6!
And I updated it until I was about 10
That's cool. Bit annoying it still shows up under my name on google.
'Cyberphobia'
Really?
Cyberphobia is a concept introduced in 1985, described as a specific phobia expressed as "an irrational fear of or aversion to computers" or more generally, a fear and/or inability to learn about new technologies. Some forms of cyberphobia may range from the more passive forms of technophobia of those who are indifferent toward cyberspace to the responses of those who see digital technology as a medium of intrusive surveillance; more extreme responses may involve anti-technological paranoia expressed by social movements that radically oppose ‘technological society’ and ‘the New World Order’...
 
That's for windows, right?
 
If I find someone with cyberphobia, I will put them in a very small room, with a cheap, slow laptop running Windows Me and leave them there with only one glass of water.
@Unihedron No, computers in general
You're thinking of WindowsPhobia
 
5:49 PM
@its_justjack No, the video about computer viruses.
I can't be bothered to watch it, but there's no platform-agnostic virus.
 
@Unihedron DOS and it's derivatives, including Windows
 
So it's a merry-go-round? Sounds uneducational. :P
 
btw who flagged this message
41 mins ago, by TGMCians
> You have already voted, but the voting has been cleared by a moderator
 
dunno
not meh
night!
 
night
 
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