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3:12 PM
xD Not the person I was expecting to see
 
Meh, it's okay if it's frozen
Week end is only in an hour or so :P
 
hahaha
 
So
Want to dramatically overshare, so experts and professionals can answer your very serious line of questionning?
Cause, let me say, it's a bit blurry so far
 
hahahaha
I've always had very thin boundaries when it comes to my personal life
 
3:24 PM
(Not entirely sure what that means, but okay?)
 
> Want to dramatically overshare, so experts and professionals can answer your very serious line of questionning?
I was assuming you were talking about me
 
Yeah, I mean does it means it's too personnal or on the contrary, that you wouldn't consider it oversharring?
Am confused by some expressions, sometimes
 
ohhh I think most people would consider it oversharing
I was just saying that personally I tend to overshare (my boundary is thin)
I tend to outsource my problems to strangers and poll the results to make decisions lmao
 
Ah okay. Well, last time, when I had the same problem, you were there, and I know it helps to talk about stuff, even if just to rationalize it
So consider me an attentive and non judging (but maybe a bit unhelpful) ear
 
I pretty much said what there is to say about it already.. I kind of just need to make a decision and there is really only two choices
 
3:31 PM
I'm still a bit unsure as why the first one is a crazy
 
1) Ignore girl#1 and stay with girl#2 and see how it plays out
2) reach out to girl #1 and see girl #2 at the same time and see how it plays out
Okay I'll give a bit more context
Girl #1, we started talking on online dating, and things were going well with her, we clicked and things seemed pretty good. We were chatting and what not, I scheduled a date with her, and then her work got in the way so we rescheduled. Everytime she had to cancel a date she at least suggested another day, so it wasn't really the end of the world but it was definitely super annoying
We end up going on our first date after she had cancelled our dates I think 6 times in a row
The first date went really well, lots of chemistry, sexual tension ,etc
So we schedule date number 2 for the following week, which also happens to be her last week before going to Greece for 2 weeks.. she ends up cancelling that one.. I'm pretty pissed at this point because it's becoming a big pattern
But she assures me it's only becasue of her insane busy worktime which goes from Sept-Nov (apparently ending today)
She leaves for vacation and we keep talking, but she ended up basically ignoring 50% of my messages, and was leaving me on "read" a ton, and it was overall just making me feel anxious about things with her and it wasn't very fun at all
I call her out on it one day, wrote up a big message basically "I get youre on vacation, but are you ignoring me? I'm really confused because your behaviour has totally switched and you went from responsive to basically ignoring me, and I'm just trying to figure out where we are" to which she responds with a massive overreaction
basically she more-or-less just went off the deep end and was just making me feel pretty shitty about even saying anytihng, which was not good
she gets back, and then she more or less is like "Yeah I think I'm just gunna hurt you, so we should move on" or something liek that
so I'm like "k bye"
andddd here we are, last night she sent me a big message "I'm sorry for before.. I see you've removed me from all of the means of contacting you.. but I'm done my hectic work time and my last presentation is tomorrow. Here's my number ### send me a message if you'd like to maybe go on a second date, second chance kind of thing"
 
Hm
Irk
 
and in the meantime in between that, I've found this new girl that's overall really great but I don't feel that same spark that I felt with the above girl, but there's been waaay less drama
but I'm also like maybe half as attracted to this new girl as I was the first
So yeah
 
I'm going to be really unhelpful
Brain says go with safety. Guts says go the fun way
Experience says "Dude, you don't know shit, how tf you want to give an advice"
 
hahaha
 
3:41 PM
Let see the problem from another point. Either you accept the date or you don't
 
The thing is, so many of the issues with the first girl were so situational, or at least seemed very situational
 
If you don't, it's pretty straightforward
Case closed with number 1, unremember, unfollow, unfriend, uneverything
You go out with 2 and it's a normal thing that may or may not last an indefinite amount of time
 
Yea that's definitely the easy situation, the only real downside of it is the wondering "What if" later on
 
If you do accept the date:
- She cancels
- She comes
- It goes great: now you're left with a choice
- It goes poorly: You pray #2 never learns of it
- It goes super bad as in #2 learn it and you're possibly on your own
Formatting is not that great in chat...
 
hahah yeah I get the point though
I think that makes sense
 
3:44 PM
Sooo, accepting is furthering the problem down the line, but maybe greater benefices (idk, you tell me)
Rejecting is cancelling the problem, but still having doubts
Which isn't particularly fun or good
 
I accept it there is two scenarios:
1) She cancels -> just drop her because fuck that
2) She shows up -> which leads to below possibilities
i) goes great: choice
ii) goes poorly: choice is made, #2 wins
iii) #2 finds out: could be alone
 
Yep
 
I also haven't had the "Exclusive" talk with girl #2 either, so I'm not really doing anything really really wrong, but it's definitely not morally clear either haha
 
So going without accepting offers the most options after. And you're clearly tempted to.
 
Yeah I mean, I think if I gave the original girl a chance it could end up giving me some closure there at least right
like if she cancels, then boom wasn't worth even worrying about
where if I don't give her the second chance, later down the line if things go poorly with this girl#2 am I going to be regretting not giving that chance? ya know
 
3:48 PM
I'd just argue, as the Loyal Good NPC, that accepting a date is not really "going without expectations" and most girls expect exclusivity even when you did not had the talk yet, so a date it still not something she will look gladly to
But yes
 
Yeah I agree with you
 
Doubt will gnaw at you, even if things goes great with #2
 
It's definitely a grey area of ethics and morality haha
 
Or who know, she is the one and you will have a long and happy couple life and #1 will just be a fading memory on the road side
 
Yeah tht's possible as well
 
3:50 PM
(A bit unlikely, but you know, for the sake of completeness)
Time to quick save and try all the options... Ah, shit, that feature is not yet implemented
IF you could explain to #1 that you're seeing someone and you go only to solve the matter and get answers, you could legally absolve yourself, but I doubt the crazy will be thrilled xD
TLDR; As an external observer, I'd say you have more to lose by going, but you will probably regret not doing so
(And probably regret doing so, so good luck, cause fuck you're gonna need it)
 
hahaha
yeah that TLDR sums it up pretty nicely
Part of my brain justifies it a bit because I've been given so many second chances in my life I find it hard not to extend the courtesy to other people
But I also realize that's just a rationalization as well
 
Well, you fully realize you're stepping in the grey area
It's not an excuse, but at least, you kind of know the possible consequences
 
gah, I live in that grey area way too often haha
 
If things go great, try not to screw up on the spot and smooth things with #2 before making a move maybe? (A bit optimistic, but, you know... at least it's almost honest with everybody)
 
I think my best bet (if I decide to go through with reaching back out to the first girl) is to not really tell anyone about the other people right away, go on another date, and then plan how I go forward from there
 
3:57 PM
Yes
I will boo you for lying by omission for the sake of it, but yes
 
because who knows maybe things will be too weird now with girl#1, or maybe she won't show, or who knows right
 
Still yes
Completely agree
 
I mean no point in unnessarrily hurting anyone if I Don't have to
telling girl#2 at this point might just be kind of mean
and shooting myself in the foot, if things with girl#1 might not work out anyway
 
Yeah, no, don't tell her before xD
 
haha we agree there
 
3:58 PM
When did she write, today?
Can't you have a night to sleep on it?
(Or rather, loose sleep on it?)
 
yeah she wrote last night at like 10PM
so I've gotten a sleep on it
I have one best friend to talk to about it remaining
 
Probably a better adviser, closer to the situation and knows you better :P
 
yeah haha
he had to listen to me bitch and whine for 2 weeks while she was in Greece
 
But to me, you already made up your mind, and you're looking for rationalization/other people agreeing to feel less guilty
(Maybe guilty is a strong word, but you know what I mean)
 
hahahah yeah
not far from the truth
ill be back in a few, just going out for a vape
 
4:02 PM
As long as you are smart about it, better settle your doubts imo
Well, I'll be going soon anyway
Week end at last
Just, accepting the date is a grey area, going to the lady's place afterwards is clearly not grey anymore :P
Good luck on that anyway!
 
hahahah
yeah that's true
 

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