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12:06 AM
Anyone else noticed home/end don't work to navigate to the start/end of a transcript? I find this a little annoying when popping back into a chat and wanting to jump to the bottom to see the latest messages.
 
 
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5:01 AM
@Joren My point was to confirm your last point about things being in one place, by citing my post where I ironically suggested starring balpha's chain of comments (which isn't easy if they're separate)
 
5:12 AM
@Marc/@balpha, just saw the 'Rejoin favorite rooms' button. Very nice.
 
 
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12:16 PM
Any thought been given to supporting /me style messages (a la IRC)?
 
@KeeperOfTheSoul work for me... browser?
@Pete yes, it has come up...
 
@MarcGravell Time for some shameles pluggin'!
 
@MarcGravell I just did it out of habit in the C# chat room, and was surprised it didn't work... (:
 
@Pete Have you tried this script, which adds IRC style commands to SEChat? github.com/rchern/StackExchangeScripts
 
/me looks.
 
12:29 PM
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Q: Feedback wanted: Ability to disagree with flags in chat

balphaJust like the actual Q&A sites (maybe even more so), chat needs a way to govern itself, i.e. put much of the moderating duties in the hand of the community, and not only a tiny group of moderators. That's why chat, just like the main sites, has a flagging system that enables (almost) anybody ...

 
12:40 PM
@YiJiang Did you mean shameless plugin?
@Pete watch out, clicking directly on the .js links actually downloads the github html page, but greasemonkey thinks it for him
 
1:11 PM
were the starred feeds added recently? I just noticed them
but they're nice
 
@balpha - I'm getting timeout/retry when posting 2 messages close together (but not in the 1 sec window)
the message posts, but the client doesn't think it did, opening a new window for the room looks fine
(without hitting retry)
 
Reproducably? From the top of my head, I can't think of a connection between the two ("timeout" is your regular AJAX timeout as reported to the $.ajax() failure callback)
 
@balpha - several times this morning, let me try in the sandbox
can't reliably repro i'll turn tracing on here and see what the post/resp looks like next time
 
1:38 PM
5-6 times I've gotten "retry / cancel", clicked retry, then seen two identical messages posted
that was on a wireless network with 10-20% packet loss
@NickCraver: does that sound like the same issue?
 
@RogerPate - yep exactly
 
hmm... that should be caught by the dupe detector... I'll check if there are any issues in that place
 
I saw it posted twice and at least once someone else commented on it
if you look for messages I've deleted, that may turn up a few (a few times I bothered, a few I didn't)
 
maybe we should raise the time limit for the dupe detector
 
my situation that day was rather unusual, with the packetloss
 
 
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3:49 PM
May I know why sometimes a dotted line appears in the chat?
 
 
2 hours later…
5:32 PM
is it possible to flag a room as a duplicate?
 
6:03 PM
@jostster: When I came across a room like that I flagged the first message in it for moderator attention
 
yeah, that's perfect
 
ty
meh, i can't the user deleted the message.
 
6:20 PM
what room is it?
 
Well, you could also post a link to the room here I suppose and notify someone
 
got the flag -- thanks :)
 
np
i just posted a message then flagged my own
 
Oh, that's possible?
Good to know
 
yeah, that works
oh, and FYI, hadn't you posted that message, the room would have been auto-deleted later today
 
6:22 PM
hahaha
 
When do rooms autodelete?
 
> Rooms will exist indefinitely, so long as there is at least one person actively talking in the room. A room is considered worth retaining if it has more than 15 messages by at least 2 users.
> Rooms not worth retaining which are inactive for 7 days will be deleted. Rooms worth retaining which are inactive for 14 days will be frozen. Frozen rooms do not allow any new messages to be sent, and are not shown in the default room list to prevent cluttering the rooms interface.
 
rooms should be unfrozen if users wish to continue chatting on that subject
i see the holidays causing problems with rooms freezing possibly
 
oh, that's totally possible
although two weeks of silence is a strong indication of a ghost town :)
but if someone makes a good case, it's no problem for a moderator to unfreeze a room
 
well not if only 9 people are in the room usually... like this one :P
if it were in the hundreds i see that as not possible
does a user have to add a message in a room or just join to keep it from freezing?
 
6:27 PM
"actively talking"
 
does split personalities count?
 
Does a room that's 'worth retaining' ever become not worth retaining?
 
@jostster only if you send us a doctor's note :)
@Joren read the definition -- that's not possible
unless you delete messages
 
roger
@balpha @balpha
hrm
how did you edit that message to include my name?
ahh
the down arrow then edit
 
it doesn't really include your name. an explicit reply shows it automatically
oh, you mean the editing
you can also press the up key to edit your last message
 
6:30 PM
yea your initial reply didn't have @jostster then i saw it flicker and it showed @jostster
good to know
 
(two-minute time window for editing, btw.)
 
'A room is considered worth retaining if it has more than 15 messages by at least 2 users.'
If that's the exact definition, sure, but I know better than to assume that informal specifications in a FAQ are exact. :)
Hence why I asked
 
where is stackoverflow hosted at now?
 
actually, the FAQ page uses the same constants as the room culling code
 
In that FAQ by the way, it shows examples of how frozen and deleted rooms look. Wouldn't it be better to also show an example of a normal room, for comparison?
 
6:32 PM
^
 
so if we, say, change the 15 to a 20, it will change in the FAQ and in the actual code
@Joren there is one, at the very top
 
Except that it doesn't actually look like that
 
is there talk of some how integrated rep into the chat? for example if a users asks for help via chat instead of posting a question?
 
The color scheme is all wrong
And since the main difference between deleted and frozen and normal rooms, visually, seems to be in the color scheme, I think that's pretty important
Well apart from the giant text :P
 
The faq is generic for all chat sites, hence greyscale
 
6:36 PM
@Joren The colour scheme is site-dependent though, so you'd need separate samples for each chat. I think it's sufficient enough for illustrative purposes not to warrant the extra maintenance involved. :)
 
I see
Yeah, I haven't visited any of the other chats, so I wasn't aware of that
Also I didn't know that the faq isn't customized
 
and we're working on a condensed version of the text
 
@Tim But yeah that's all reasonable
 
 
1 hour later…
7:55 PM
Are there more people that think that the scrollbars positioning is weird?
You want to scroll through the replies but you see no scrollbar, and then discover it is totally to the right
Bottom and right side are static, so the scrollbar should be right next to the chat area
 
8:10 PM
Oh, there's a scrollbar? Haha
Never noticed it
Just scrolled using my mouse wheel like I always do
 
there is?
where?
oh you mean browser scrollbar
 
To be fair it's obvious enough if you have a normally sized window
I fullscreened mine
 
8:34 PM
is there a way to display another room kinda like IRC where you could do #room incase you need to link someone to another room
 
 
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9:38 PM
I have a feed configured for a room where I'm a co-owner, but it hasn't posted any of today's matching questions.
It's configured to insert them as chat messages not as a dropdown, but we're not seeing them.
Am I misunderstanding the feature or is something not working?
 
10:09 PM
For historical purposes: Tim helped me figure it out. The feed URL (someone) had pasted in there had a ?sort=new applied to it, which was breaking things.
 
 
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11:27 PM
public rooms could use a place to share some mostly static content; a wiki
pins are too small of an area and would prevent using the interesting stars
though I'm planning on finding someplace online to post the content and then pinning a single url, it seems like rooms in general would benefit
 

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