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Q: Fit review queue items to the user tag score

DaniloI've restarted using the review queue in my profile to help moderate stack overflow. When I use the review queue I've found that some of the questions I get are so far out of my topic of knowledge - so all I can do is skip. Is there a way to map queues to the user? For example if most tags I ...

 
But shouldn't it be automated and built upon an trusted community ? I've never used angular.js , so the mere possibility i can flag that is frightening.
 
If a question is flagged as angular.js, but the actual text of the question says "I want to build a website with LEGO and mustard and CSS; were can I find a tutorial thanks advanced!!1!", wouldn't you know what to do with it? My point is: many times you do not need domain knowledge to act on review.
 
True, but the same would follow for person who knows angular. And person who knows that example language, wouldn't have as much trouble figuring out if LEGO is an children toy or Library or another language.
 
I trust you agree with me that the problems with my hypothetical question go beyond identifying that LEGO and mustard may not really apply to web development.
 
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Perhaps... honestly in my experience, high rep users often do comment, answer flag and etc. I am willing to bet that they are not polymaths , and that they as we all have their own expertise. Just their expertise ( due to experience ) contains 100 tags, and mine 2.
Take user Mark Adler for example. Among his most used tags are gzip, zlib,crc and deflate wouldn't it be logical to forward him queues containing to compression and decompression, with custom binary files?
I honestly don't see you point : 141 posts edited, 5 helpful flags, 534 votes cast. He isn't active in moderating but he still does it. And last revised was on 30th march.
 
@Danilo, Mark only performed 7 reviews. Nothing more. Which is fine
And I still argue that many (if not most) review tasks do not actually require domain knowledge.
 
I really, honestly don't know from where in this conversation you found the desire to shove or force someone to do anything. You are placing words out of context. But lets then take you two for example: Both have 0 activity on python tag, is this spam ? Is this deserving of an flag or downvote :stackoverflow.com/questions/45011723/…
yeah + triage. But you are avoiding the question at hand. The main topic is that for some questions prior experience and trusted knowledge base is necessary. So please, please answer my question from last comment.
 
Let's assume I found that question on "First Posts". I believe it's flaggable as a "typo, not helpful for future readers". Maybe help the user with a comment and move on.
Same thing for Triage.
 
And you would be wrong there, since python allows acces to global dictionary that holds any function/variable name which you can then search for. Honestly... not trying to make anyone look bad... i am just trying to show you my point of view. Spams, and other aside... for programming topics knowledge is required. And there are many people here with different knowledge. So mapping queue items to persons who what to review by their most active tags is an benefit. I hope you can see that.
 
Danilo, that user simply mixed up the right and left side of the assignment. Nothing else. Despite my tag score, I'm not completely ignorant about Python.
But if I didn't know what to do about a question, I could just as easily press skip. Most review tasks do not require domain knowledge. Some do, and if you encounter those you skip. Or if you really want them filtered, there is an UI for that.
 
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Again , honestly my desire wasn't to offend anyone. I really hope that is clear, so i never meant that any of you are completely,partially or full ignorant. I think of all users with higher rep than mine greatly. But what if person wanted to assign global variables to the list, and use that list to compute new value ? That part isn't clear from the question ( since nowhere in question shows the prior declaration of global variables ) - and yet question can be rushly written. This kind of things we never know.
 
If it's not clear from the question, then it's flaggable as "unclear". But you are splitting hairs: if you found that question you know it's not salvageable in its current form. You just flag it to the best of your abilities and move on. If you think it is salvageable and think you can help the user, you can try helping to edit the question, ask for additional details, etc, etc. (I'm not offended, nor I believe anyone is; all this is good faith and with good intentions; I hope you feel the same way).
 
And i did, but the question has more than 9 negative comments, and there isn't any way to save it from my exp points. Just because anyone can flag it, the user probably will not even see the answer i will give it ( just about to ) and the question will stay unanswered and downvoted. Even if it has merit.
 
The author of that "question" has not been around for two years. They posted that question, which is absolutely unsalvageable by anyone but them, and moved on.
 
Hi :D Thank you for willing to discusi this further with me
I agree, and the author either won't return, or will return with another unsalvageable question. The issue is that votes follow user, which i've felt on my own skin.
But , the story of that question will not stop there. Other people will search it in the google, and if the question is downvoted by less experienced user in that field, it will stay unanswered.
I am just suggesting that Stack Overflow play on our strengths
Not to give someone like me, an exposure to downvote something just because i dont understand it well
 
It does. But it's up to each of us to play their strengths as well.
Reviewing is trying to help moderate and curate the site. If you want to perform work on the queues, you need to be willing to accept that unsalvageable questions, like the one you linked to, need to be closed.
 
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it does play to our strength?
 
How does it not? It allows each user to use their knowledge to their best of their ability.
 
I was unclear about what you meant, so i needed clarification. That is all.
The threat i see here is the "up to each of us". Honestly sometimes i've been a fool who thought i knew best , and i've been an master who no one can understand. I can't allow myself to think of myself ( and by extension anyone else ) in is/isn't terms. There are a lot of random users who are impolite, unfriendly but still moderate ... and honestly it frightens me that i have possibility to act that way if i choose so.
 
To be honest, I don't believe your feature request is a bad idea. I like the spirit behind it. But I simply believe it's not necessary, and has some problems (pointed out in the answer by Zoe). It's a nice thought, but I just wanted to impress on you how in most cases, domain knowledge isn't really necessary.
Review handling is not about politeness. It's deliberately impersonal. If you can help the user, help the user. If you can help the system, you are helping everybody else.
 
Perhaps we would agree, that not every user on this website is willing to self moderate and self discipline. So having so much power on topics i lack knowledge can't be good for the comunity.
Thank you for the impression. And i am glad we can talk normally ( egoes set aside ). And i agree with you that in most cases in depth knowledge isn't necessary, but there is still that other percent where it is. And where people will downvote based on peer pressure.
I dont want to become that person, and i think that noone should have that choice.
 
And for that percentage, we have the "skip" button, and audits to catch robo-reviewers.
Ok, need to go now. A pleasure to chat.
Bye!
 
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Thanks for the time. Bye :D
 

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