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1:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
@41686d6564standsw.Palestine The [meta-tags] explicitly says it's not to be used for tags on meta, which this question is about. — cigien 1 min ago
 
1:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
"...despite there being a comment saying that it should be flagged as spam." More generally, you need to be extremely careful when considering marking something is OK when someone or the system says there's a problem with it. If you can't at least see why someone else thinks there's a problem (even if you disagree with their assessment), I'd recommend Skipping. — BSMP 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
You may have seen a browser cache? But there are times where the SO cache/snapshot rendering of a version was erroneously not actually what the text renders after markdown changes. An edit causes a new rendering per new markdown. — philipxy 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
This question is currently in reopen queue and already has 2/3 necessary votes to reopen. The process is working as expected. I don't see any reason why this particular post needs to be handled expeditiously (read: before reopen queue completes) to warrant the additional attention of/input from the Meta Stack Overflow community. — Henry Ecker 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kenny Ostrom
Thanks, I'm not familiar with the process. I just felt responsible for following up on my close vote. — Kenny Ostrom 1 min ago
 
2:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
it is still a bad questions as it is unreadable and quite hard to understand — nbk 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steve Bennett
It doesn't appear that SO is asking for suggestions of other accessibility issues to fix (based on the response to the answer from Marijn). — Steve Bennett 1 min ago
 
2:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Related: We're switching to CommonMark (Jun 2020): "[...] if we detected that a post would look differently when rendered with the new CommonMark renderer during the migration, we wouldn't save a new version of this post as part of the migration. This way, all posts continue to look the same when being viewed. However, once someone comes in and edits it, it will be rendered using the new CommonMark renderer and this might cause the post to look slightly different than what we had before. [...]." — Andrew T. 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
It happens almost all the time in this case, making the editor feel crazy as if they saw something that did not happen :) — Andrew T. 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Could you mention the browser version? — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
Why are you asking this on the meta site? Why would you be asking this on Stack Overflow in general? Finding services is far off topic. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
@Kenny If you want to help the OP of that question, consider fixing the grammar errors to make it easier to understand. — PM 2Ring 1 min ago
 
 
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4:32 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
Yep-yep, Support... (from a Bot/Web-Automation Specialist, oops..!) [status-completed] = Done...! — chivracq 1 min ago
 
 
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5:47 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Because that page is universal, the same on all SE sites, and non-editable by mods. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
 
5:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeru Luke
@CrisLuengo I agree with you — Jeru Luke 39 secs ago
 
6:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user16320675
apparently the score is not -2 ! — user16320675 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user16320675
you can audit your reputation by checking its history: from your user page (click the reputation numbers on top right [main site, not here]) -> Activity -> Reputation and you should get: stackoverflow.com/users/11072709/caleb-liu?tab=reputationuser16320675 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jsejcksn
The joke’s on you @RyanM: the OP’s question and his comment were automated posts by the OP’s AI bot. — jsejcksn 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
This might be a language barrier issue on my side, but what do you mean by "empathetically help" and similar? The helpful thing to do seems to be to drop a comment pointing to auxiliary information. Not sure where empathy comes into this (or is missing in the first place). — MisterMiyagi just now
 
7:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexander
I think you misunderstood my question, because this in no way addresses it. — Alexander 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexander
@AndrewT. I read that page as well. That page is written for the context of the asker. That isn't helpful since the people asking the questions with typos clearly are not doing it intentionally. — Alexander 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
You think we aren't here to create a repository of useful knowledge? or you think that typos do form a useful repository of knowledge because there are hordes of people making identical mistakes who will then google that mistake? — Robert Longson 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexander
I edited my question... maybe now you will understand why your answer doesn't address it — Alexander 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
The main point is that off-topic questions shouldn't be answered, and the community has decided that typo questions are off-topic since 2014. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexander
@AndrewT. See that actually addresses my question... thank you. That is what I was looking for — Alexander 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
If knowing the keyword, the answer already exists, can we not simply duplicate their question to that answer? — Robert Longson 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexander
@AndrewT. that addresses my question... thank you. It is still seems to be written in the context of the asker but it least it makes a direct link between typos and one of the items listed in the questions that shouldn't be answered section. — Alexander 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S. Dre
I agree on this answer. I think that a typo can be if he is putting a cnsole.log() or something like that, not this particular case. — S. Dre 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
@AndrewT. even older than that, it's been like that from before the MSO/MSE splitRobert Longson 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexander
I believe it. But it isn't an obvious rule for new users. That is why I think it would be beneficial for it to explicitly included in a list of questions that shouldn't be answered. — Alexander 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Of course you do, but Stack Overflow is for people who did inform themselves properly before they get stuck. The people you are talking about here really did not properly study the subject material before they started to blunder ahead. As such the site is absolutely not geared towards the kind of assistance you want to give; it would even be abuse of comments to provide your help there. That being said, I don't believe anyone would flag a comment which was created out of empathy. — Gimby 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
Some have difficulties with the language some type in their mobile and autocorrection does its work, both are no ground not to answer — nbk 14 secs ago
 
7:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexander
@nbk so you are the first person to disagree... you think that they should be answered? — Alexander 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@Alexander "New users" do not get a get out of jail free card just because they are new, quite the opposite really. People who are new should double down on learning and reading how the site works. That personal responsibility is the same in all facets of life. It is more that people are used to being able to get away with just doing as they please on the internet, and then they are faced with the harsh reality that on Stack Overflow it has consequences. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexander
@Gimby I don't understand your comment. I wasjust asking if it is an official policy/rule, and why it seems there isn't a better way of communicating the rule? now that you mention it though, are their negative consequences to answering these types of questions? — Alexander 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@Alexander downvotes, naturally. I posted that comment because your own comments have a tendency to reason from a perspective of leniency towards new users, as if they are allowed to be ignorant. Not true, for anyone. All people have a lot of reading to do before they can effectively participate on this site. And so should naturally stumble upon the phenomenon of a typo question, it's not exactly like the topic never comes up. — Gimby 1 min ago
 
8:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexander
@Gimby Got it. Thanks for clarifying. I probably have that perspective because I still feel like I am still learning the ropes as well and don't feel so far detached from them. — Alexander 1 min ago
 
8:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user876sd87g6sd8fag7
@RobertLongson I can confirm that a single question is enough to do it. — user876sd87g6sd8fag7 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user876sd87g6sd8fag7
@Dharman if there is a way out it's not well advertised. The account in question had a poor first question, and several subsequent good questions, and was still banned and not helped. Asking for help just resulted in more anonymous attacks. — user876sd87g6sd8fag7 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user876sd87g6sd8fag7
@Dharman The link on the question ban page mentions creating a new account as a way out. Might want to fix that if it's not the case. — user876sd87g6sd8fag7 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user876sd87g6sd8fag7
@SecurityHound The user could not fix their question. They tried, twice. They were told that the question was fundamentally flawed and could not be fixed. They could not delete it either. You are incorrect about 6 poorly received questions, their other questions had positive votes. But that ignores the bigger issue of extreme hostility and trolling towards new users. — user876sd87g6sd8fag7 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
not for all topics are online sources available, so you get always questions about concepts, that must be discussed, but SO can not properly handle such questions, As Moderation and administration doesn't allow length discussions about ideas or minute nitpicking. The question should be asked, even when you get downvoted or closed, with some luck you find a nice person who answers — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
@Alexander i am known here on meta, to have his own opinion and defend them, i correct and get corrected a lot. So yes i think answer it, correct the misspelling and go on with your live, you have doen a good work — nbk 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
@user876sd87g6sd8fag7 It's been confirmed by staff that it isn't (unless that question was spam or rude/abusive), although if you create a new account you can start off banned even though your new account hasn't asked any questions. — Robert Longson 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
The link on the question ban page explicitly states that creating a new account is not the way out: Deleting and recreating a new account will hurt you, not help. etc. — Robert Longson 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@KennyOstrom keep in mind that Stack Overflow is used by millions of people eh, you're not running it single handedly. Whatever you don't see, someone else surely will. So give yourself the freedom to not feel that much responsibility. I'd say that the main priority anyone has on Stack Overflow is to do the right thing. But the second priority is to not burn out in the process. — Gimby 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the comment flagger
"that ignores the bigger issue of extreme hostility and trolling towards new users." Without any evidence of real hostility or trolling, we are more likely to dismiss the accusation as yet another case of taking curation personally. — E_net4 the comment flagger 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kos
@SteveBennett it is actual quote from the question you looking at: "If you have feedback about any changes or want to report any bugs that may be related to this initiative, please post them as an answer under this question (one issue per answer, please)." — Kos 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user876sd87g6sd8fag7
@E_net4thecommentflagger Try to look at it from a new user's perspective. They try to ask a question, but they are a novice so might need some help. Everyone has to start somewhere. But what happens? They get anonymous down votes with no indication of what the issue is, and then banned. Extreme hostility. — user876sd87g6sd8fag7 22 secs ago
 
9:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
Python is a very active tag, and at the moment Stack Overflow is saying that there are 1,998,925 questions. It's entirely possible that many low quality questions are being asked (tipping the count over two million), then deleted (bringing the count back down again). Also, shouldiblamecaching.comWai Ha Lee 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
That "extreme hostility" bit is a gross mislabeling. There is no such thing. There is however what I would like to call the Cascade. Person has trouble on the main site. Downvotes, closed questions, maybe even a question ban. They go to meta for help / an explanation. And then see their unresearched meta post get dozens of downvotes and receives a giant amount of comments explaining exactly what was done wrong - people try to help, but it is too much of a good thing. All that is simply too much for an uninformed person to take. Account deletion is a frequently more common result. — Gimby 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
It's showing 2,000,303 for me now. — Andrew T. 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
And now 1,998,935. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
And now 2,000,309 ¯_(ツ)_/¯ — Andrew T. 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TGrif
Same thing with other tags like JavaScript. — TGrif 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
The term "bug" is pretty loose when it comes to the site itself. There are many facets of it that are malfunctioning by design, often because doing it 100% correct would mean that performance tanks. I would not rely on any statistic on this site to be precise, they're all ballparks. The main gist here is that there are ~2 million Python questions. Or to put it in simpler terms: "A lot". — Gimby 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suraj Rao
New questions are continuously asked. Some may get deleted from queues or by poster... You can also blame caching — Suraj Rao 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user876sd87g6sd8fag7
@Gimby that sounds extremely hostile to me. — user876sd87g6sd8fag7 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DialFrost
@SurajRao that's not the problem, the number changes to the same number back and forth — DialFrost 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Presumably there is more than one instance of whatever is returning the count and the load balancer swaps between them. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@Cerad That is a little too harsh. It is random in the case where people try to pin a close reason on something that at best deserves downvoting, sure. But it is not like close voting is going wrong on a grand scale here. — Gimby 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the comment flagger
Sounds a lot like someone being unable to withstand criticism and setting expectations about the platform. No one (new and veteran) is ever owned anything, yet when a new user's question is downvoted, there's always someone crying discrimination and hostility. It gets tiring. — E_net4 the comment flagger 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the comment flagger
Also, a reminder that there are well established reasons for downvotes not to require an accompanying comment, and being unable to respect this decision of the voter is a real source of toxicity. — E_net4 the comment flagger 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@user876sd87g6sd8fag7 well, that makes you the hostile one I'm afraid. You are seeing it where there is none. You are ignoring a lot of signals to be able to make that judgement. Like how the trigger of the entire cascade is people being uninformed - a state they create for themselves. And why is meta overbearing to the point where it can trigger the uninformed to rage quit? Because they re-used the Q&A software of the main site which is an absolutely dreadful format to have a discussion in, since it is designed to not have one. There is no hostility, just... everything sucks. — Gimby 1 min ago
 
10:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by F1Krazy
What do you mean, "use Stack Exchange instead"? This is Stack Exchange. Also, it's worth noting that this particular user was actually able to get out of the question ban, which contradicts your claim that it's impossible to do so. — F1Krazy 33 secs ago
 
10:37 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user202729
Some other answers propose the edit one, but be careful and don't modify the answer intention. meta.stackoverflow.com/a/265440/5267751user202729 17 secs ago
 
10:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user18807217
@AndrewT. My broswers version is microsoft edge 103 — user18807217 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz
@Alex.K. Please don't bump old posts to the front page just to remove a "Thank you" — samcarter_is_at_topanswers.xyz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
You are asking this question on the wrong site. This is the "meta" site where site problems are discussed, and you should instead be asking this on the Stack Overflow main site. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
You're welcome, but also please delete this question — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 14 secs ago
 
11:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
"Because that's about how to write a good answer and you should consider closure before considering writing an answer at all." By this argument the whole section need not exist. But it does exist, because not everyone knows that they are supposed to consider whether the question should be answered at all before they start answering it; and it lists specific kinds of question that should not be answered. The meta question is why "caused by a typo" isn't in that list, and personally I think it should be. — kaya3 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kaya3
Also, while typos are mentioned elsewhere in the help centre, the target audience for the page you quoted is people who are asking questions, and particularly people whose questions were closed. It would certainly not hurt for the page targeted at people answering questions to say explicitly, "don't write an answer if the question is caused by a typo". — kaya3 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
None of the 2012 - 2018 answers mention the gist of it, using "!!" instead of "||". — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Caleb Liu
Wait, I wasn't supposed to use the not-a-robot tag? Sorry, I didn't know. — Caleb Liu 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by randomuser5215
Please don't post on old questions unless it adds something new, thanks! — randomuser5215 7 secs ago
 
12:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Juan Mendes
The reason I asked this question is because of questions like this, which I was to answering, but they were closed calling it a typo. They're clearly not a typo but I have seen a number of questions closed because the answer was so simple and it was because of a few missing/misplaced characters — Juan Mendes 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jml
Do you have an example? I have asked a couple of questions on here where I explained what I was seeing without knowing exactly where it was coming from, and got very helpful replies pointing me to in-depth answers that already existed. If I had known to search for, e.g., "list comprehension variable scope leaks in python 2" I would have found it on my own, but I didn't. — jml 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kaiido
There is still a third case where we only can guess at what the question really is, and where we can only recognize that they've gone the wrong way somewhere on the road. From what I understand from the question here, it's mainly(?) about cases where the asker isn't able to actually formulate their question, because of this lack of formal knowledge. "this question I am asking is about understanding how I/we can be more empathetic/helpful in cases when an answer perhaps isn't possible" (emphasizes mine). — Kaiido 1 min ago
 
12:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
"But that ignores the bigger issue of extreme hostility and trolling towards new users." - Looking at the quality of the questions that were downvoted, I don't see any trolling from anyone in the community. It seems you are not willing to listen, a user choose to delete their account, instead of putting in effort to improve their contributions after asking a pattern of questions that were not well received by the community.. — Security Hound 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CodeCaster
@Makyen expecting nothing is my default modus operandi, but it's kinda depressing, isn't it? You sound tired as well. — CodeCaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CodeCaster
I removed my comment earlier, but can any of the downvoters please tell me why they did? Is my question unclear? Am I whining? Do you like this UI? Something else? Please enlighten me. — CodeCaster 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CodeCaster
@Braiam my point is that it should not be and is not allowed, hence you do not see it happening much. If it were, it would become a free-for-all mess pretty soon. — CodeCaster 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
You are asking this question on the wrong site. This is the "meta" site where site problems are discussed, and you should instead be asking this on the Stack Overflow main site. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lecdi
How has this answer become the most upvoted? It suggests not editing existing answers which could literally break someone's Python environment... Although I don't think answers should be completely revamped to change their message, it is definitely very important that a warning is added to the top of each of these answers, advising people not to use them / which versions to use them for. This answer suggests that old answers should be left completely unchanged, which is a hazard for people reading them. Downvotes will not do anything to fix this, especially where answers have got 1000score — Lecdi 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
@Lecdi if you read the header, you'll note it's based on the original revision. The information such as that it kills pip didn't exist then. — Larnu 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
You are not banned for these two questions. You have asked a total of 45 questions. — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Most importantly, the votes are on the post. Do not take them personally. — Dharman ♦ 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Improving get request with net/http packet: You ask how to improve a method, but don't specify the goal of the improvement. Better readability? Faster? Less memory consumption? The other question is based on a problem somewhere unrelated to your code, so also not a great question. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by X T
I can have it into account next time but I won’t be able to ask any other questions as I’m banned. — X T 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
@XT Then you need to work on improving your remaining questions. The ban is telling you that your current contributions aren't very useful and you should first focus on improving what you already posted before posting anything new. — Dharman ♦ 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by X T
I’ll try to improve my previous questions just clarifying things better or adding more extra info. Those questions are gonna be reviewed from moderators, right? — X T 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
No. Moderators do not usually review questions. — Dharman ♦ 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by francescalus
If you ask a question here about how to improve other questions, it seems to make little sense to delete those other questions and limit how many people (only those with at least 10,000 reputation) can see them. — francescalus 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@Larnu, no, as it doesn't have an answer. It has not been fixed yet. — The Amateur Coder 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
That doesn't mean it's not a duplicate. The bug report already exists; we don't need another one. — Larnu 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@Larnu, why not retract the close vote and upvote instead so that they notice and fix it? — The Amateur Coder 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Because it's a duplicate. I might have previously already upvoted (one or more of) the duplicate(s); I see no need to post this again, when you've already found 3 reports for the problem. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@Larnu, okay, then; thought posting it again would bring the bug to notice. Everyone make sure you make the other posts active so that they receive attention. I've voted to close it too. — The Amateur Coder 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
KISS: unet-cnn = U-Net convolutional neural network? — Ian Kemp 46 secs ago
 
2:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
I appreciate how nobody is addressing the elephant in the room, namely the reason this question got "incorrectly" closed. That reason is that overloaded curators are so tired of having their options for nuking zero-effort questions like these continually whittled down, that they have resorted to closing with whatever close reason that's the fastest. And they're not wrong, because the problem of garbage on this site is far more serious than the problem of "my garbage question was closed because I'm too lazy to spend 5 seconds using Google waaah". — Ian Kemp 5 secs ago
 
2:42 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the comment flagger
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skomisa
An egregious side effect of the "typo" close reason, is that it can be abusively used to close questions. Here is an example of a mod (!!!) stomping on a valid question that clearly didn't meet the close criteria "Not reproducible or was caused by a typo". When challenged on the closure, their (absurd) justification was citing the accompanying verbiage "While similar questions may be on-topic here, this one was resolved in a way less likely to help future readers". See the comments under the question [Java - OutOfMemoryError : Java heap space](Java - OutOfMemoryError : Java heap space) — skomisa 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skomisa
So apart from any other issues, the wording for the "typo" close reason doesn't bear scrutiny. Just claim that "this one was resolved in a way less likely to help future readers" and by dark magic you have a flimsy pretext to close a question, even when it is reproducible and does not contain a typo! — skomisa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skomisa
Ooops - I fudged the link above. See the comments under this question: Java - OutOfMemoryError : Java heap space. To be clear, the mod closed the question, but it was later reopened. — skomisa 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
For illustration, can you add one or more examples of such questions? — Peter Mortensen 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@IanKemp Yet despite curation pretty much being a fruitless endeavour, I can find my answers with ease. I think that people who are neck deep into curation kind of make themselves believe that they are the ones keeping the house of cards from collapsing. But no, not really. It only makes it hard to find stuff to answer. There is a lot of incoming crud, there already is a Lot of crud in the repository. And it is going to stay. Forever. Just do what you can within reason to reduce the pile and don't burnout. Emphasis on the not burning out part, by the way. — Gimby 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Moshe Katz
I think that whether a typo-based question should be closed or not is subjective. Take my question and self-answer for example, which is clearly resolved as being due to a typo (caused by an extra comma in an array) but has been useful to hundreds of people (based on upvotes; maybe thousands based on page views). — Moshe Katz 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
For illustration, can you add one or more examples of such questions? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@francescalus true, but if you see the downvote counter ticking up... I can understand the choice to do damage control. If need be a screenshot can be posted of the offending question. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by francescalus
@Gimby, a valid viewpoint and a screenshot/quote does make sense. (As the questions have been self-undeleted I've removed my comment.) — francescalus 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"Why do I always get downvotes on Golang questions?" - An interesting observation that, it does seem that way if you look at your user account. But it isn't strictly Go... it just happens to be the one programming language tag you ask questions under. The same could have happened if it were Java, C# or Python. It is far from ideal, but there is a big difference in how strictly by the books questions are judged based on what tag it is under. — Gimby 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
For illustration, can you add one or more examples of such questions? (But without "Edit:", "Update:", or similar - the question should appear as if it was written right now.) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Found a Javascript bug ... well, that is why the book about The Bad Parts has so many pages ... — rene 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@PeterCordes, "...is the word service", yet we do provide a service, one that helps people with a variety of problems. We even provide the (free) service of moderating posts, making edits to questions and answers to make them more legible, and much more. And "answering and interesting generic question" is highly objective. What one person thinks is interesting, another thinks is off-topic. What one thinks is generic, another thinks is too broad and another thinks it is too narrow. The only thing consistent in the definition of this site is it's inconsistency. — computercarguy 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CodeCaster
@Ian I have been shouting into the void about incorrect closures for years now, I think nobody cares anymore, and I gave up (on the site as well, returning when I feel like it again). It is nigh impossible to get an incorrectly closed question reopened, unless you open a Meta question at the right time using the correct phrasing. Otherwise it will remain closed, even if it was closed using close vote abuse (by mod or not), because "well it wasn't that good a question anyway". It is a sign of exhausted members inventing their own rules to make the site something they want, which it never was. — CodeCaster 1 min ago
 
3:49 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
it's a feature: the pre-selected options never works so you never have to select them ;) — Temani Afif 20 secs ago
 
4:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
If the question arises due to a misunderstanding then it's answerable (or we close it as a dupe). If we can't tell whether it's a simple typo or a misunderstanding we have to ask the OP, and if they don't clarify we can close as Needs Details. — PM 2Ring 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
Another current question on what qualifies as a typo: meta.stackoverflow.com/q/419635/4014959PM 2Ring just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
Your post is not an answer to this question and is also quite rude. You can indeed bring individual users to the attention of mods with a custom flag, but fellow contributors don't curate content for "no reason" - they do it to improve the quality of the site. If you have a legitimate question about why the post you're referring to was closed, consider posting a separate meta question (one less rude and with fewer expletives if you're truly interested in figuring out what happened). — CertainPerformance 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by davidism
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the comment flagger
This is not only false, but also unnecessarily antagonistic towards curators. Misconduct can be reported both by flagging a comment/post and through the site's "Contact us"_ form. However, from what I gather from your previous question, the only misconduct was from yourself by accusing people of doing a "dick move". It was merely closing a question which did not have a self contained reproducible example. — E_net4 the comment flagger 15 secs ago
 
4:42 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
@MosheKatz I don't think it's totally subjective, though. OTOH, some typos are quite common, especially for newcomers to the language (eg if(a=b) in a C program) and deserve a decent answer that can be used as a dupe target. However, in many cases, unless there's a clear error message it would be rather unlikely for someone with a problem caused by a typo to find a matching typo, and even if they do stumble across one in their searches they may not recognise that it's similar to their problem. — PM 2Ring 14 secs ago
 
5:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Charlieface
"Misunderstandings are not typos" but egregious misunderstandings are usually. Whether this is such a case is debatable. It is definitely a basic syntax mistake, but on the other hand many people make the same mistake. — Charlieface 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
(This was on the main page due to the reopen. The syntax highlighter changed in the meantime (but probably not the outcome).) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
 
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6:32 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christoph Rackwitz
if no CM shows up to fix this, I think I'll eventually have to write a greasemonkey user script... — Christoph Rackwitz 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Christoph Rackwitz
I share your sentiment about the "eternal september" problem and desire to keep these pleb issues away from the professionals... however "cv2" is a terrible anachronism and an accident of history that needs to be disappeared. the "raspberry-pi" tag flags one half of those and a selection of "pip/conda/anaconda" mostly flags the rest. — Christoph Rackwitz 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Aaron Bertrand
By that argument you should post a duplicate every day until it is fixed (and maybe it is never fixed regardless of how many duplicates you create). More duplicates does not mean more attention or higher priority. It just causes more work for other people. — Aaron Bertrand 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by miken32
Thanks @henry-ecker I should know to read tag descriptions before using them! — miken32 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Justin
 
6:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 77-1
If you cannot provide a full answer, but have something of value - leave a comment. Something like, "See if this link is helpful" or "Google 'this that thing'". — PM 77-1 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
Does this answer your question? I did *not* retract my voteHenry Ecker 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
It's apparently also been reported here on MSO. Also no worries @miken32 no one reads them. =) — Henry Ecker 1 min ago
 
7:30 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Roddy of the Frozen Peas
This Q&A decided that typos in off-site (and offline) resources aren't off topic. So "no typos" is not a blanket rule. — Roddy of the Frozen Peas 29 secs ago
 
8:05 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dave W. Smith
Accident of history or not, it's history. Keeping Python install questions separate from API usage questions would be, I believe, a better experience for both groups. — Dave W. Smith 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@computercarguy: Yes, exactly, it's subjective, and any individual user is free to post an answer or downvote, and nobody owes the asker anything. (Sometimes users disagree enough that some want to close a question others think is worth answering. Nothing's perfect.) Posting an SO question is not like a help-desk support request where it's expected that someone will help you, regardless of effort put into the question. That's what's my understanding of not-a-service. We expect Stack Overflow's infrastructure to be available, that's a service that allows users to collaborate on answering Qs. — Peter Cordes 54 secs ago
 
8:45 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@PeterCordes, that's like saying a pet rescue company is a service, but the volunteers that work there aren't providing a service. That's like trying to split hair found on a chicken egg. I have to specify "chicken egg", because someone will find some egg somewhere that actually is hairy to show that I'm the one that doesn't make sense. One definition of "service" is to help people, #4, but you seem to only recognize the facility to help people, #7. merriam-webster.com/dictionary/service People volunteering to help others with their problems is also a service. — computercarguy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexander
@RoddyoftheFrozenPeas That actually seems to make the most sense, and that this is simply a popular opinion/ and frequently given suggestion. — Alexander 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@computercarguy: Maybe the meaning of that phrasing isn't as clear to all readers as we wish it was. Do you have a better suggestion for something that would get the message across, that it's a 2-way street and a sense of entitlement is likely to put people off from helping? Something succinct we could comment on low-quality questions that demand without any sign of putting in any effort? — Peter Cordes 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
“I can have it into account next time but I won’t be able to ask any other questions as I’m banned.” - Probably should have considered the feedback on your past questions, and specifically, when you were warned about your question asking status before submitting your last question. Since your pattern of poorly received questions, resulted in a question ban, be sure you take the opportunity to ask a higher quality question in 6 months. Questions bans are never a result of a handful of questions. This assumes you haven’t asked 45 questions and received 0 upvotes. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@computercarguy: Re: dictionary definitions, #4 is the act of serving, like MW's example "did him a service". That's not something Stack Overflow can be; it is a place where can people do "service work". From context, I think "SO is not an X service" implies the utility definition. I know that's how I understand the phrase, and even after you point out the alternate defintion, I think it doesn't really fit as a reading of "not an X service". But I can imagine that some people might manage to read it differently from how I know it's meant, so worth considering an alternative I guess. — Peter Cordes 1 min ago
 
9:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin Krumwiede
@IanKemp If they're overworked, it would be vastly preferable that they do nothing rather than incorrectly close helpful Q&As. — Kevin Krumwiede 1 min ago
 
9:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick stands with Ukraine
Have you got an example? Or was it a case of "oh no, it contains a bad word"? — Nick stands with Ukraine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
I don't understand. Content like that can be flagged as either Spam, or R/A, and both will be marked helpful. Are you referring to some specific case where your flag was declined? — cigien 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
I do, will post the link as edit. — Gerhard 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
Don't include the text though. Just add a link to it. — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
@cigien, yes. I will post the link in an edit — Gerhard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick stands with Ukraine
That doesn't appear to be spam. Spam has to have intent to be spam, here it's likely just a misguided user who posted a bad question. Closing is the correct response, not flagging as spam or R/A. If you really wanted you could've edited the post to contain the regex and example with some less explicit URLs. — Nick stands with Ukraine 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
@NickstandswithUkraine, ok, so the link text and images linked in it is ok to use? If you clarify, I am happy and will delete this. — Gerhard 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
A Spam/R/A flag is not appropriate here because there's absolutely no context in the question to indicate that there's anything offensive about it. The link is to a regex tool that's used very often on the site. If you personally find the example text in the linked website to be offensive, you need to raise a custom flag explaining the issue. A custom flag might get declined as well, but at least the handling mod knows what you're referring to. — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick stands with Ukraine
@Gerhard It's not so much that they're "ok", it's more there's no clear intent. Are they linking that specifically for the purpose of spamming? Then it's spam. Are they linking to cause offense? Then it's rude or abusive. But if the user just posted a question which happened to contain links to rude stuff because that's what their code is about, and they failed to edit it to be safe for work? That's just misguided, and shouldn't come with the harsh penalties that flags can come with. — Nick stands with Ukraine 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
I personally see it as just another tactic, @NickstandswithUkraine, but who am I to differ? Thanks anyway. — Gerhard 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick stands with Ukraine
@Gerhard It could be another spam tactic, but because of how bad the penalties are from spam flags and the fact that we can't be certain (although mods have tools to help them), I wouldn't flag unless I was sure because there's every chance they're not spammers. — Nick stands with Ukraine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
"Also too, the links are essentially two clicks away from the main post. Someone has to be deliberate in following those.)" you mean like young kids who do not yet understand the dangers of the internet? — Gerhard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by forest
@Gerhard It's not a "danger" to them. It's a danger to adults at work because they could get fired. — forest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
@Gerhard: I feel like the first click is an accident, but the second one in which you literally have to highlight the entire link and either copy and paste it into your browser or right-click to open the link is most certainly not an accident. Regex101 doesn't generate hyperlinks to click. — Makoto 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
Sure, @forest, but some adults don't have to follow the embedded links but instead know where it will lead by the text — Gerhard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by forest
@Gerhard Exactly. So if you don't want to access that content, don't follow the links. — forest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
Mokoto, sure, but my 10 year old daughter is capable of reading the content and completely comprehends url's and how to make use of them. We are living in 2022 where they grow up with technology. — Gerhard 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
Do we tell our curious children that @forest? — Gerhard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by forest
@Gerhard If she is explicitly looking for that content, she's going to find it. Stack Overflow questions about regex with adult sites behind a regex testing website is not going to be her gateway to pornography. If she's looking for that, she'll find it elsewhere. — forest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick stands with Ukraine
@Gerhard Maybe teach your children about the risks of the internet or restrict their access using one of several child web restriction services out there instead? — Nick stands with Ukraine 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
Anyway, I think I have proven my point as highlighted in my flag to the moderator, thanks for proving my point, to all the powers to be. :) — Gerhard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
@NickstandswithUkraine, no, don't get me wrong, my children are well taught about the internet, are all other children? — Gerhard 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by forest
@Gerhard Children who are looking up information about regex probably understand the internet better than most. If they don't, then they'll learn. You can't hide the internet from children forever. — forest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
Yes, it is a case of just trust anyone, anywhere and let us just stand and watch, right @forest? Anyway, jokes aside, I think I have learnt my lesson, my days of contribution to SO has come to an end, like many before me. — Gerhard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by forest
@Gerhard That's not at all what I said and I don't think your reaction is constructive or reasonable. If you're going to give up on a site because it decides to close a question or edit out adult content rather than validating your R/A flags, then I don't know what to say. — forest 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
No worries, @forest, tomorrow you will wake up and have forgotten this discussion ever happened. It is about a lot more to me than just one flag not going my way. — Gerhard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by forest
@Gerhard That's fine. No one is keeping you here and if you wish to leave, you're welcome to. I'm sure the site will survive without you. — forest 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gre_gor
The problem with answered closed questions is that they are harder to delete (might not be automatically deleted) and then just litter the page. — gre_gor 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick ODell
@gre_gor Litter which page? The list of recently asked questions? Those will quickly age off the page as soon as people stop editing or answering the question. — Nick ODell 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Alderson
I just ran into the same issue. I am trying to update my profile picture. — Andrew Alderson 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
When in doubt raise a custom mod flag. That allows you to explain what is going on / special / weird / worth noting about the post and what it links to. You can explain that bringing the example over in the question is a no-no. And you can always end with something like: is this a one-of or does this user post more content with links to dubious content. I haven't have many of many of these custom flags declined. — rene 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Alderson
I have just ran into the same issue trying to update my profile picture. I was logged in with my Github account but I have also tried adding a few different email addresses and logging in with them. Still get the same error. — Andrew Alderson 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
@PeterCordes, I wish I could help you with a definition of what SE does, but mine is based on examples I've seen for many years and experience I've had actually using SE, which apparently doesn't agree with other people's definition of what SE is. I've yet to get any kind of real definition of what the site is, except "we don't do that" even though I see it frequently. That's why I made my 2nd comment on this thread. If I took every person literally when they say "we don't do that here", then I'd have to believe this site doesn't do anything and every post should be closed and/or deleted. — computercarguy 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
Well, it was a question to get some clarity on this topic, @rene, but clearly based on the comments and voting, user questions and opinions means nothing here. It is purely about the higher reps. — Gerhard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by forest
@Gerhard The question was closed. It's clearly not about rep. — forest 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
The reaction on this post is about rep, @forest, we both know that very well. Nothing here implicated any one person, it was a simple question. I was requested to provide links for clarifying and well now we know who is the important bunch here. The contributors means nothing here, we come and go on a daily base. — Gerhard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by computercarguy
And that's part of the problem: everyone wants a succinct definition of the site, but there is no concise way to describe what SE does or doesn't do. People make overly short statements that aren't true "This is not a forum", when what they really mean is "this is not an open forum". "We aren't a code writing service" when what they mean is "you need to do most of the work so we only have to point to where you messed up". "Close all typo posts", when they apparently mean "you should be a robot and never fat finger anything". Not all of it is even that nice or concise. — computercarguy 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by forest
@Gerhard I fail to see how rep has anything to do with it. It's the contributors who are answering your question. If some nameless staff account appeared and said there's nothing wrong with it and locked your question, I'd be more sympathetic, but you're getting honest responses from fellow users. — forest 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gre_gor
I mean the whole page. They can still show up in google searches. Usually the question is completely unrelated to the actual problem (typo). — gre_gor 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
Rep a virus in this place. Sympathy is the last thing I expect,so please don't feel obligated. ;) — Gerhard 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by forest
@Gerhard I don't think you even get rep on MSO, do you? — forest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
No you don't, but clearly you are missing the point here. — Gerhard 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
Oh, so edit the post? Or edit the content of the text linker within the post? Clearly I have been told on here that accessing the link was a bad idea?? — Gerhard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by forest
@Gerhard I must be. I am not a native to SO (I'm active on other SE sites), but I can't see how people suggesting not to have used R/A is in any way relevant to rep. How is editing the question so that it's more appropriate going to gain people more rep than submitting an R/A flag? — forest 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kos
answering OP's question - it's by design that if question is well asked, it may be answered no matter of it's being typo or duplicate or whatever — Kos 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
You don't have to click the link embedded in JSON to edit it to something else, y'know. — Makoto 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by forest
@Gerhard Accessing the link is not necessarily a bad idea, but you don't have to do that. You can create a new regex URL and edit that in, or at least notify a moderator so they can do it if you're not sure how to proceed. The post was salvageable (or would have been if it wasn't off-topic for other reasons). — forest 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gerhard
Seems everyone in here is a genius in here.. so create a new url based on what? I must have seen something wrong in the current link in order to want to fix it, no? Anyway, done is done, which is what I am. — Gerhard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by forest
@Gerhard If you see a URL which is pornographic in nature, you can replace it with something else without having to click on it. Did you not read Makoto's reply? — forest 18 secs ago
 
11:09 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
If it's not clear that a post you flag leads to obscene content then you need to use a custom flag & explain that. The generic rude/abusive flag is for when a mod can look at the post & immediately see the bad content. — PM 2Ring 5 secs ago
 

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