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1:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
There are various other variations, incl. the result of gross carelessness. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
 
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3:48 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
@Braiam it was simply a joke (rephrasing the answer more concisely). — Karl Knechtel 6 secs ago
 
4:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George
I fully agree with this answer. It's very good and clarification request is really needed(+1). — George 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It's almost like these recalc operations are batched and run sequentially... — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@ClickRick If I'm being baldly honest, I want to say that I'm not overly concerned with people whose feelings are so sensitive that, when a machine makes a poor choice, they feel that things are "broken", "judgmental", or "toxic". Sure, there's room for improvement; I don't deny that. I'd love to see improvements made here, and I've made many suggestions on how we might do so (and nitpicked many more!). But throwing out the baby with the bathwater, or taking your toys and going home, seem like such juvenile responses that I really don't know why I would be upset that these people are choosing… — Cody Gray ♦ 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
…not to review. As for this claim about "compensation", you seem to have some fundamental misunderstandings about how the review system works. There's no reputation involved whatsoever. This is why moderators don't/can't "set reputation back as it should have been", because there's no reputation change from failing an audit. Nor is there any "credit" to be given or taken. — Cody Gray ♦ 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George
Please edit this question to add details. — George 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@idmean Regardless of the rightness or wrongness of Braiam's answer (and this question in general), what you expressed in your comment is both wrong and dangerous. The fact that a question might be on-topic on another site can never make it off-topic for the site where it was asked. The topicality of questions is not evaluated that way. Questions are only closed because they are off-topic where they are asked. Migration is a subset of closure, not orthogonal to it. You don't close anything unless it's off-topic, so you can't close/migrate it on the theory that it's on-topic elsewhere. — Cody Gray ♦ 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Are you just reposting text that you find elsewhere on the site? Talk about a waste of everyone's time. Stop doing it. — Cody Gray ♦ 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@MattDMo can you point where is software in that question? It's an algorithm question, not a software algorithm. That yes, the algorithm can be implemented in software but so you can write programs on a boat, that doesn't make asking about right of way in the sea on topic, even if you were programming during it. — Braiam 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@CodyGray I don't get where the existence of another site determine the topicality. I literally said "this site is for programming, this question isn't programming" — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George
@CodyGray, No, I don't made it. But I seen those tags. — George 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@MattDMo and we should strive to close them. This site is based on revisionism after all. — Braiam 1 min ago
 
4:43 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I was referring to the comment you had just posted: "Please edit this question to add details." What was the purpose of that comment? — Cody Gray ♦ 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by philipxy
@CodyGray I think I finally figured it out. The close header: "Closed. This question needs details or clarity." So I guess the asker wants us to do that for them. — philipxy just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Instead of saying that some tags are "waste", could you help us by mentioning which tags specifically? There are currently around 60000 tags on SO. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by George
I can just add an example, else this question will be very long. — George just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Your question was downvoted. Have you taken the tour or read the help center? — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
"how can I re-format my question?" the question is off-topic on Stack Overflow because it is not related to practical programming. — Andrew T. 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
There are programming questions that can be asked involving routing. The tag itself is not inherently off-topic and does not need to be removed. People just need to read the help center and stick to asking questions about programming. It's not that hard or complicated. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
5:41 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
Are you suggesting that Minecraft scripting is not programming? It sounds like programming to me. — Ryan M ♦ 6 secs ago
 
5:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
@Braiam You'll note that I was not replying to you, but to the person I replied to at the beginning of my comment. — Cody Gray ♦ just now
 
6:13 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Yes, you should flag these comments so that they can be deleted. — Cody Gray ♦ 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by The Amateur Coder
@CodyGray, yes, I guess I had flagged it, but IIRC, as NLN (I didn't realize there are other options, sorry :P). — The Amateur Coder 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
NLN is an appropriate choice. — Cody Gray ♦ just now
 
6:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by idmean
@CodyGray You're taking my comment entirely out of context. I said I agree with the distinction made by this answer, which outlines why I think the answer is off-topic. — idmean 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@CodyGray: gamification as motivation for doing boring work like reviews can fall flat on its face when you run into unpleasant stuff like bad audits. (Or for me, audits at all, especially for suggested-edit reviews. They're often very weird and confusing, so I waste time trying to figure out what the editor might have been trying to fix, and what I should improve in the original, before opening the original in a new tab to find out there's no pending edit and it was just a stupid audit of a bad edit that had already been rejected.) — Peter Cordes 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Cordes
@CodyGray: Anyway, like an actual computer game, a bug in the game can make it feel much less fun. Even if it only threatens to take away some progress you made, without actually doing so yet like in this case. "toxic" and "judgemental" aren't great words to capture the feeling for reviewers, but I think I get what they're trying to express. That this takes you out of the mental reward cycle. (Although in this case I think pure algorithm questions are clearly on-topic, and this audit correctly taught someone that.) — Peter Cordes 5 secs ago
 
7:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
I can kind of see where this is coming from, but the distinction feels off. If we are just looking at algorithms in general that goes way, way beyond programming. Yet finding algorithms is part of programming, just like writing code is. Algorithms for graphs are part of programming, just like algorithms for more (or less!) concrete data structures. Perhaps it would help to clarify what the answer actually considers programming, then. — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
 
8:36 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
These appear to be copying the exact error message, as it is generated by the tool. It is not done for readability. You should not, in general, add "Error:" to the beginning of titles of Stack Overflow questions. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SeyyedKhandon
@CodyGray How can one distinguish between a generated one and an added one? For any of the above questions, the asker can add it himself. So in general should we edit these questions? — SeyyedKhandon 1 min ago
 
8:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Anton Strogonoff
There are many formatting options supported by highlight.js but not on SO. If someone’s motivated, it’d be worth looking how (and even whether) SO actually uses highlight.js, and which version… — Anton Strogonoff 1 min ago
 
 
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9:56 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"How can one distinguish between a generated one and an added one?" 1. If you're familiar with the technology, you would probably know or can find out easily. 2. If the body of the question quotes the error message then it would be obvious if it's the same as the title. 3. In most cases you can research online find if this is indeed the message or what there something tacked on. — VLAZ 1 min ago
 
10:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
In my experience, those who just dump the error in the title haven't done much research; normally anotber question with almost exactly the same error (with different object names, etc) exists. The title ideally should help define the problem you are trying to solve, not the error (which should included in the question). — Larnu 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Younus
Thanks when I have 10k reputation. I will see. — Younus just now
 
10:41 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Charlieface
@CodyGray There quite clearly is some kind of internal "reputation", because otherwise failing multiple audits wouldn't track. All that would be needed is for a mod to remove the audit failure from the system with an apology. Is that so difficult to ask? Yes I understand you cannot do this now with the powers that you have, but it's pretty simple for Stack Exchange to implement — Charlieface 1 min ago
 
10:53 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
[ Boson ] New comment posted by PM 2Ring
@Younus The good thing about 10k is that you can see all the deleted answers. The bad thing about 10k is that you can see all the deleted answers. ;) — PM 2Ring 1 min ago
 
11:18 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user438383
@SeyyedKhandon please read the guidance on when to use code blocks meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/254990/… - they shouldn’t be used to highlight post titles. It makes the post look visually ugly and hard to read when over used. — user438383 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SeyyedKhandon
@user438383 This links are about how to do it, is there anything about not using ` on text? stackoverflow.com/help/formatting and stackoverflow.com/editing-helpSeyyedKhandon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
You also don't need to put sub headers like "Update" or "Edit" in your question; word your question as if someone is reading it for the first time, not returning to it. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
@SeyyedKhandon can you explain how the text "How to fix Sass Loader "Invalid options object that does not match the API schema" error?" or "Error message "No exports were found that match the constraint contract name" is code? — Larnu 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SeyyedKhandon
@larnu This is a convention to remind people who have already read the question to see what has been updated. And it's been used widely on StackOverflow by the users. — SeyyedKhandon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
That people do it doesn't make it right, @SeyyedKhandon . Plenty of people speed when driving, does that mean it's allowed? — Larnu 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kos
This question is clearly about a software algorithm imgs.xkcd.com/comics/algorithms.pngKos 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SeyyedKhandon
@Larnu So, tell me how one can notice the update in the question? every time the question has been update he/she must read it completely? Can you please send me the link to the rule for more reading? — SeyyedKhandon 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SeyyedKhandon
@larnu Do you recommend putting the list on a block quote? — SeyyedKhandon just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
"So, tell me how one can notice the update in the question?" As I said: "We can see a question has been updated as below the question is states the last time it was editted, and the revision history shows us exactly what has changed if we do want to find out."Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SeyyedKhandon
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
You aren't supposed to be copying code from this site. You are supposed to be learning. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
11:56 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by SeyyedKhandon
Why is the question being downvoted? — SeyyedKhandon 59 secs ago
 
12:11 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mkrieger1
I'm lately getting blue frames around the "Follow", "Close", "Flag" links below questions when clicking on them. Does this have something to do with this? I don't see it mentioned or asked about anywhere, so I'm wondering if I'm the only one seeing this. — mkrieger1 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Donald Seinen
Many posts in the FQQ have reproducibility issues, contain thanks fluff or other trivial things that can be avoided. Many review tasks for these are pointless, as they can (should) be resolved by proper documentation and onboarding procedure, giving them a chore-like feeling. Reviewers are given test tasks to see if they are paying attention. Why not query posters when they post their first question? Hey, there is an image in your post, is this an image of code? If the quality of the questions can be improved, there is no need for a separate Triage and FQQ. — Donald Seinen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
Ok, I posted a comment on this answer that was deleted or was I dreaming? — Braiam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@CodyGray and I'm kinda of asking you to not derail the discussion and just delete your comment. — Braiam 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@MisterMiyagi breathing is part of programming too, and so are computers and OS, yet you don't see those topics being on topic here. We are not a theory site, we are a practical one, there's nothing immediately usable on that question. Mathematicians are known for creating stuff that doesn't have use yet, this question is still at that level yet. Once you are trying to make that into actual code, I would say go for it, but this question is still on high conceptual level still. — Braiam 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
Lets go again: where is the code in this question that makes it software? — Braiam 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@skomisa "complete" != "good" wtr answers, and questions are supposed to foster answers that explain why or how. I don't think other than "because they said so" any answer explaining why/how would be less than 30 characters. — Braiam 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@Braiam Okay, that seems seriously overshooting things. For programming, algorithms aren't as ludicrously far fetched as breathing (seriously, if you don't want me to try and have an earnest discussion with you – please just say so, it would save a lot of time for both of us) but instead one of the main things of programming. Every program ultimately implements an algorithm and the right choice of algorithm is the critical part of many programming tasks. Many questions critically here depend on whether they are algorithmically feasible, or on complexity and other things in the same area. — MisterMiyagi 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
Or to put another way: Is this answer supposed to say that the deciding part is whether the OP tries to do something as concrete code? Critically, whether that's excluding similar things such as pseudo-code or a description in prose? — MisterMiyagi 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@MisterMiyagi the thing is that we humans (and nature) use algorithms for everything. Heck, the mere fact that you made the decision to answer my comment is an algorithm. It's not "far fetched". People will stretch the definitions of algorithm as far as they can, I'm pointing out that fatal flaw in that argument. An example of people taking things too far was "we don't edit code" "rule". It was originally "we do not edit code in questions unless we know the issue (and format)". I've seen this plenty of times, something that was nuanced lost nuance. Programs aren't the only thing using algos! — Braiam 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
@MisterMiyagi or to put it another way: we are going to very dearly reject this decision. I've been known for calling stuff years in advance and be proven right. — Braiam 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
If anyone wants to make a through exercise: think of any algorithm question that is not "software algorithm". — Braiam just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
BTW @MisterMiyagi I'm always up for earnest discussion, but we need to be able to see the other side. I see yours, now, do you see mine? — Braiam 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kriegaex
"Whether" is not the question. Did you follow my link to the corresponding announcement at all? — kriegaex 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by snakecharmerb
"The title ideally should help define the problem you are trying to solve, not the error" @Larnu I'm not sure I would always agree: if I am searching for how to fix some exception I want to see the machine-generated message in the title rather than having to open the Q&A to find out if it deals with my specific error. — snakecharmerb 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Code should be in the question, not just as links. Same for answers too. So sure, ask for a minimum reproducable example if the question needs it but not as a link. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@Braiam "I see yours, now, do you see mine?" Not clearly, hence my suggestion to clarify what does constitute a proper programming task. — MisterMiyagi 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gowtham K K
Could you please check the updated question with about the reason I asked this? — Gowtham K K just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gowtham K K
Could you please check the updated question with about the reason I asked this? — Gowtham K K 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by snakecharmerb
For SO to work as a Q&A site, questions and answers must be self-contained. Use of off-site resources to show code (e.g. git) or communicate (FB, Telegram etc) undermine the site's mission; they should be avoided. — snakecharmerb 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The "How to ...?" form is broken English. Either drop the question mark or use QUASM. — Peter Mortensen 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Re "reviewing clues": Don't you mean "reviewing queues"? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
1:35 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
For illustration, can you add one or more examples of such questions? It doesn't have be a long list. (But without "Edit:", "Update:", or similar - the question should appear as if it was written right now) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
1:48 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Don Cruickshank
The question clearly relates to an algorithm but not a software algorithm. For that, I would expect to see something that is commonly used to implement software. — Don Cruickshank 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Younus
You are right PM 2Ring — Younus 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Apart from, as I stated @snakecharmerb , the vast majority of errors already have a question for that error; having more with just the error in the ttitle just bloats the results with low quality content. For example, I lose track of how many times I see the "Subquery returned more than 1 value" error as a title with nothing else as a question; and the reason they are just dumping the error in the title is because they didn't bother to research. — Larnu 35 secs ago
 
2:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rubén
@PeterMortensen Yes. Thanks — Rubén 32 secs ago
 
2:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MattDMo
Of course it's about software. Do you really think the OP was asking here about how to do this by hand, or with a mechanical machine? What else could it possibly be? Just because the OP didn't include a beginning attempt (in pseudocode or otherwise) doesn't not make it about software. Geez... — MattDMo 1 min ago
 
2:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Skeet
On the other hand, being able to copy the code from a question might make it slightly simpler to reproduce the problem, removing the "select everything, copy, paste" step. Only a minor benefit, admittedly. — Jon Skeet just now
 
3:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by snakecharmerb
meta.stackoverflow.com is for asking questions about how StackOverflow works. This question belongs on the main site, stackoverflow.com. — snakecharmerb 1 min ago
 
3:26 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
"passed objects element" is pretty well meaningless, and they do all at least have PHP in the titles. When the Related questions are a poor match, this could actually be evidence that the question is unclear. — Karl Knechtel 1 min ago
 
3:38 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gino Mempin
Related (hopefully) on meta.SE: Unrelated popular content constantly in related links and How are "related" questions selected? (This second one maybe explains why it doesn't work so well..) — Gino Mempin 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Yeah, I gave up editing the question trying to make the related section more relevant. I guess unlike some other language-prefixed tags, PHP rarely has them and instead uses generic tags that confused the algorithm. — Andrew T. 30 secs ago
 
 
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5:00 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by icecub
@KarlKnechtel Although I agree with most of what you said, obviously matching "PHP" on PHP related questions hardly makes any sense. You might as well select random questions in the category. Anyway, I understand it has to do with the user typing PHP within the title and from the related questions I found and linked here, it's pretty clear that the related filter is simply of pretty poor quality and has been like that for years. Hence my proposal to stop calling it "related" and maybe at least change that to "possibly related". At least it'll become less confusing. — icecub 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by β.εηοιτ.βε
Interesting, indeed to see that an answer and a question are actually the same entities, that one can tell apart from its PostTypeId. — β.εηοιτ.βε 1 min ago
 
5:23 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew Morton
Shouldn't that be in a spoiler section for Star Trek fans? ;) — Andrew Morton 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mortpiedra
Anon Coward provided a perfect solution (which I marked as answer in the original question). — mortpiedra 1 min ago
 
5:56 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mortpiedra
@AnonCoward your solution in my original question is great and solved the problem. Thank you. — mortpiedra 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@GowthamKK: please see edit to my answer — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
What happened with your CreationDate column? — rene 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Paolo
@mortpiedra why did you wait 5 days before accepting an answer you were so desperate to get? Was it maybe because you wanted more upvotes to your question? — Paolo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gowtham K K
Thanks. I should have avoided asking this question . I regret for my invalid question. — Gowtham K K 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gowtham K K
Thanks. I should have been avoided asking this question . I regret for this — Gowtham K K 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Paolo
Why did you wait 5 days before accepting an answer you were so desperate to get? Was it maybe because you wanted more upvotes to your question? — Paolo 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@GowthamKK: no. There is nothing invalid about your question at all, and better to ask it than not. You have lost no reputation from this meta question, and the site gains some information from it. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Minor nitpick: the tags column holds the tags currently on the question. Later created tags can be added to older questions. PostHistory (specially rows with typeid 3 and 6) is a better source in that respect but it lacks the records for now deleted questions. This is good enough. And plus 1 for the Trim / Replace trick. That is way more elegant I ever did. — rene 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@GowthamKK: please see the Voting on Meta link in case you are confused with how meta voting works and how it can mean different things from the Stack Overflow main site. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gowtham K K
Thanks for this info. I also had the doubt that I saw meta and main state have unsync reputation count. Got it cleared now. — Gowtham K K just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
@GowthamKK: on further exploration, I have modified my answer. Please see the changes and the link. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Paolo
Why did you wait 5 days before accepting an answer you were so desperate to get? Was it maybe because you wanted more upvotes to your question? — Paolo 1 min ago
 

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