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12:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Phil
@Piper don't forget high-contrast mode — Phil 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Be glad we don't have to deal with winsock puppets. — user4581301 1 min ago
 
 
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1:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by bloodyKnuckles
I've seen a number of answers that clearly resolve the question posed—whether my answers or others'—but for whatever reason, often new users, the one asking the question does not accept an answer. The question remains public but there's no indication that any answer solved their problem. Accepted answers is typically one of the main indicators that help direct people to valuable solutions. What's the harm to remind someone to select the answer that best meets their needs? Also, what's wrong with formulating quality answers for the thrill of helping out, as indicated by accepts and up-votes? — bloodyKnuckles 40 secs ago
 
1:34 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
@RyanM So we should not use either the spam or rude/abusive flags, only use a custom flag? — CertainPerformance 1 min ago
 
2:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@CertainPerformance Personally, I'm fine with red flags on these, if you're confident it's them and okay with a potential declined flag here and there. I've been responding to confirmed cases by red-flag nuking all their posts. My concern is that they may be incorrectly declined by moderators who don't recognize why they're being flagged. I've asked the rest of the mod team for their thoughts. — Ryan M ♦ 1 min ago
 
3:02 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
For the custom flags, I've been searching for "koa" in the queue to find them all, so including that word is helpful. — Ryan M ♦ 54 secs ago
 
3:22 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Karl Knechtel
Stack Overflow somehow manages to present too much data at once while simultaneously rendering too much blank space on the page in pursuit of "responsive design". — Karl Knechtel 57 secs ago
 
3:50 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nimantha
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rupinderjeet
Yes, I guess I have an answer. — rupinderjeet 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nimantha
You could also find a couple more examples and post this on the relevant Flutter support forum. If it's the same pattern for all the links in the older URLs, they could automatically redirect the old links to the new format — Nimantha 1 min ago
 
4:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
@Nimantha I don't think this should be closed as a duplicate of that question as the staff have a tool to do such URL substitutions as noted in this question: meta.stackexchange.com/questions/367881/…Abdul Aziz Barkat 49 secs ago
 
5:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
@HereticMonkey - Reductio ad absurdum. Your argument that I am somehow asking to not explain close reasons because I am stating we need to refactor the close reasons is trolling at best. I am not even going to address the rest of the nonsense which follows it. — Travis J 51 secs ago
 
6:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fabpico
@RyanM Should I open a new question with a description which is more focused on web development? Or how is this question handled now? — fabpico 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by angularrocks.com
@VLAZ the thing is that angular term refers to angular v2+ (currently v14), so it is all just angular and all the same. However if we refer to old angular v1.x we call that angularjs. — angularrocks.com 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
"addressed the question" That doesn't seem to be the case, with the question asking whether one should create more than one database and the answer stating whether Oncreate does – although it is hard to tell seeing how poorly both the answer and question are worded. At the very least, the formatting and spelling errors would warrant editing or downvoting. — MisterMiyagi 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
You might want to adjust either the title or body – right now the title is very generic and covers all dead-link-cases, whereas the body is about a very specific and actionable case. — MisterMiyagi 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
It's possible you'd get a better reception for a suggestion that the survey be split into, say, web/desktop/mobile apps, with a list of technologies for each that could go more in depth. I could imagine agreeing with that suggestion, depending on the details. — Ryan M ♦ 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by angularrocks.com
@VLAZ Yes you right about the way angular vs angularjs distinct from each other. Every question currently market with [angular2-directives] refer to angular (v2+). I checked there is no [angular-directives] tag here on SO, so it is save to just rename. — angularrocks.com 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by angularrocks.com
@SurajRao I just saw some old posts here that generalizing that particular issue but seems there was no action taken on that one. — angularrocks.com 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Then the question is how was [angular-template] used? If it was tagged on Angular.js questions, then there needs to be some retagging done, as well. I just checked and there is a tag [angularjs-templates] (yes, plural) which is probably the correct one for version 1. I suspect some [angular-template] might need to be moved over to there. — VLAZ 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by not a robot
@MisterMiyagi I dunno. The question is missing a verb but I interpreted it as "Does oncreate method create one database for each device or one database only?" which is addressed by the answer in my opinion. In the answer, "method" is misspelt and a verb is missing but generally it's understandable. — not a robot 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by not a robot
@cigien that's indeed the same question but none of the answers really answer my question here. One answer critiques the review system (not helpful for me), another suggests to open the post in a new window (not useful to check for plagiarism), the last is about a feature request (not relevant for me). — not a robot 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nimantha
@AbdulAzizBarkat Noted! (voted to reopen) Also found a related post on a similar issue (no answers): Fix broken links to external Guava documentationNimantha 1 min ago
 
 
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8:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hiba Youssef
they can find solution for my problem? @TheMaster — Hiba Youssef 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
Wouldn't hurt to try.. — TheMaster 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tripleee
For the record, "spam" is strictly speaking not correct for posts which don't promote a product or service (or religion, mathematical proof, membership in an occult organization, etc etc etc); plain old vandalism, trolling, posting junk, etc should probably get the "rude/abusive" flag (if you are confident enough that that's what it is - it's obviously often tricky to divine the author's intent and/or level of confusion). — tripleee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by tripleee
Many of the recent koa posts are certainly closable as very low quality / unclear etc regardless of any sockpuppet ring or conspiracy. — tripleee 50 secs ago
 
8:40 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by blackgreen
@CodyGray follow up on your first comment: how many poorly received questions would you think is a reasonable threshold for flagging? 5? 10? 15? — blackgreen 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"Should these links not be buttons since they are not taking you anywhere but rather let you do some action on the post you are viewing?" all the links under a post actions related to a post. None of the actions lead anywhere. Unless you don't have in-place edit and you try to edit, then you go to another page. But that's the only exception. Furthermore, inks being used for not-redirecting have been standard UX idiom on the web for decades. — VLAZ 1 min ago
 
9:10 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
@VLAZ Because something has been done in a certain way for decades doesn't necessarily mean it is good or best-practice. I am no UX expert, which is why I am not claiming it needs to be changed but rather turned this into a question. I suppose there must be some guidelines / best-practices on that topic. — MrUpsidown 58 secs ago
 
9:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Conversely, just because something is different doesn't make it better. Using pre-existing expectations that users are familiar with is generally preferred. Hence the decades of prior use I mentioned is relevant. Unless you're Microsoft or Apple or Facebook or otherwise large enough to afford to make up new concepts. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
Using pre-existing expectations that users are familiar with is generally preferred. - this makes sense. But the main point of this feature request is to have a visual difference between when I have voted and when I have not — should these links remain links or become buttons. — MrUpsidown 49 secs ago
 
9:44 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
"a visual difference between when I have voted and when I have not — should these links remain links or become buttons" I don't see the link between these two. They can be distinguished visually in either case. Why should buttons be required for that? Here are just a few options: normal, bold and red (the style of an "undelete" button), red background, lower opacity, no underline (applicable to high contrast mode only) — VLAZ 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
I think you got me wrong. What I am saying is that the most important part is that I can visually tell the difference between when I have voted and when I have not. Whether the links remain links or become buttons does not make any difference. — MrUpsidown 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
I completely agree that more clarity is needed. It's indeed a topic I wanted to tackle at some point using a userscript. It's literally in my backlog of userscript projects to do. However, I found the link to button point to be completely orthogonal to the rest of the FR. — VLAZ 1 min ago
 
10:07 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Whatever you think would be enough for a moderator to take action. — Cody Gray ♦ 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
@VLAZ I have reworded/clarified my question. Hope this makes more sense now. — MrUpsidown 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
What is "koa"? Do you mean "Koa"? — Peter Mortensen 39 secs ago
 
10:39 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Can you add more system information? E.g., operating system, incl. distribution/edition and version. Approximate geographical location. — Peter Mortensen 22 secs ago
 
10:57 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Weren't there some changes with Google this month, now always requiring two-factor authentication? — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
 
11:20 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Harvey
I'll just say it: there's no such thing as toxic closing. There are only users who are upset that their question got closed. The word "toxic" is reserved for things that can cause bodily harm or verbal abuse, none of which applies to closing questions. — Robert Harvey 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suraj Rao
Closing as a duplicate is not necessarily a bad thing. It acts as a sign post — Suraj Rao 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick stands with Ukraine
Q1 (the TB/LF)/Q2 (the duplicate) for reference in case users want to determine the validity of the closures for themselves. — Nick stands with Ukraine 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Can we stop acting like we own the site and thus can dictate how it is to be used? Closing questions is a normal operation and very much necessary to make sure Stack Overflow keeps functioning as intended. If you want to change something about closure culture, the goal of the site needs to change first. — Gimby 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
Could you describe specifically why you believe the questions (which you have not provided) lacked focus or were not duplicates? — Ryan M ♦ 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Can we stop with the toxic attitude towards closing of questions? — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
Although, if you're talking about stackoverflow.com/q/72739671/208273, I'm inclined to agree with you: I don't see how that lacks focus. I cast the final reopen vote. — Ryan M ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by blackgreen
1) new users aren't exempt from question quality standards 2) if you disagree with closure, vote to reopen. If you can/want, possibly edit the question to address reason for closure. 3) you can't reasonably make any assumptions as for why people choose to vote as they do, unless they explicitly enlighten you themselves 4) voting to close shouldn't mandate any additional comments. the reason for closure are stated in the close banner — blackgreen 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
" But the question was more specific than the duplicate question." That doesn't make it not a duplicate. — Larnu 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
The short answer, which the answers there say indirectly, is that those are bad audits. We've stopped doing the thing that caused them to be created, but we don't have a way to remove the existing ones. If you had been suspended for that (which you weren't, I just checked), we'd happily reverse the suspension. — Ryan M ♦ 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
I feel in general tooltips are relied upon too heavily to explain functionality. It is possible to hover over the button to see if you’ve already voted to close or how many votes are needed to complete the action, etc. but this is counter intuitive, slow (due to the time it takes for the text to appear), and not mobile friendly. — Henry Ecker 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
@RyanM theuser should have posted his attempt and so show that he tried. — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@nbk no, because the question isn't about debugging. — VLAZ 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Attempts aren't required, @nbk , that's reason to downvote, not a reason to VTC. — Larnu 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@nbk Stack Overflow is not a debugging helpdesk. We do not require existing code to debug. Lack of research or problem-solving effort is not a reason to close or otherwise object to questions. The only type of effort we require is the effort required to ask a clear, focused, non-duplicate question. Including an attempt often adds noise and results in answers that are applicable to just the original asker rather than anyone doing the same thing. Many of the most useful questions on the site do not include an attempt at solving the problem. — Ryan M ♦ 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
I have very hard time seeing how either of the two questions is not a duplicate. How is it that nobody has ever asked how to run a script? How is it that asking how to check if all items are the same in a list or if at least one is a specific one? Heck, I'd even say that the ex-duplicate (for it has been reopened) is the broad one, since it's asking multiple things and "how to improve the code". Seems like either a multidupe or potentially fit for CodeReview.SE. — VLAZ 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bravo
OK, so no downvote for comments ... how about a facepalm? — Bravo 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by S. Dre
I prefer the aesthetics of the one we already have, but you should consider how the new style might make it easier with people with any visual difficulty. UI design takes a lot of things into account. — S. Dre 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
Please don't separate new users from others, quality standards don't consider user age. If you see questions being closed unjustly, please bring them to our attention, including an argumentation why you think they were closed unjustly. When there's a clear pattern, it's good to bring that to our attention too, but mostly after verifying that the community perception aligns with yours regarding what's unjustly closed. Discussing a general "questions are being closed unjustly" without examples is not constructive. — Erik A 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
'help me please' without showing is a lack of focus, independent if is is debugging, if he doesn't show his efforts, then it must be closed, else every homework question can't be closed, or you try handle the same thing in didferent ways — nbk 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
Stack Overflow is a site for software developers, not only web developers. Adding 3 additional webdev-specific questions is not a good idea imo, the survey is already way too focused on webdevs. — Erik A 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
"web/desktop/mobile/embedded development" ;_; — MisterMiyagi 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
Also a good close reason is is seeking for recommendationnbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
and only one of the hundreds of duplicates stackoverflow.com/questions/5519328/…nbk 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@MisterMiyagi probably, yeah - it's the list from my comment, which wasn't intended to be exhaustive. DevOps and data science would be two notable omissions. I'm sure others can think of more. — Ryan M ♦ 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@ErikA The idea behind suggesting this split (as a non-web dev myself) was to allow for more options targeted at non-web developers if there were a "what types of development do you do?" checklist that determines the subsequent options. Though I suppose it might be tricky to handle "well, I'm a web dev now but I want to do mobile in the future" from a UX perspective... — Ryan M ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
Maybe try resetting Firefox. It's extreme, but it might solve the problem — Machavity ♦ 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
Here's a few hyphenated ones. However, all those either have a name where the "db"/"database" is a separate word, have -db used as a way to disambiguate (sterling-db seems to do this anyway), or where the source includes hyphenation. Obligatory note that I only checked the wikis, I did not check all the tags, and I did not google to make sure the wiki uses the right name — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by angularrocks.com
@VLAZ There is a small amount of questions tagged with both [angular-template] [angularjs] stackoverflow.com/questions/tagged/angular-template+angularj‌​s in that case if question targeted with both [angularjs] and [angular-template] the [angular-template] should be changed to [angularjs-template] — angularrocks.com 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
Seems reasonable. Did you check to make sure all the questions on the ftl tag are about freemarker? — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
@RyanM Splitting devs into categories is a terrible idea imo. I'm a data scientist/database engineer/fullstack research application developer/MLops developer personally and that's just scratching the surface. And unfortunately, even though webdev is nowhere in there recently I did develop a WordPress plugin. In software development companies everything is sort-of organized, outside of them, unfortunately not so much... — Erik A 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
Hm, it might be useful to have multiple optional sub-surveys. Having to make a choice from an incomplete list where multiple things can apply would feel bad, but being able to actively skip something I don't do anyway would be good. — MisterMiyagi 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
@ErikA I was imagining a list of checkboxes, where you check all that apply. — Ryan M ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ryan M
I'm pretty sure stackoverflow.com/q/70016111 isn't about that, but...honestly, I'm not sure what it is about. — Ryan M ♦ 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jasper de Vries
Yes, they all are currently — Jasper de Vries 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
And my point is: I do not wish to have 10 additional (potentially overlapping) surveys with multiple sort-of applying to me. There are many, many ways to subdivide developers and many developers performing multiple roles. Asking specific, fitting questions is often pretty hard if you're not experienced with the subject. If you want to, say, fill in and review results of a webdev-specific survey, there are plenty of them around already on sites that specialize in web devs. And that's way better than trying to do everything in the SO survey imo. — Erik A 20 secs ago
 
1:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Speaking as a "webdev", I concur with @ErikA. We don't need to make the Stack Overflow survey longer or more in depth. If we had a webdev-specific site on Stack Exchange, a targeted survey there might be appropriate. But something with the breadth of Stack Overflow should not split its focus. In my opinion. — Heretic Monkey 32 secs ago
 
1:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
I was able to login with 102.0 (64-bit) on Windows 10 Enterprise 21H2. I use 2FA for my Google logins however, so that may have something to do with it. — Heretic Monkey 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
Closing a FR as a duplicate of a 6 years old FR that has never been actioned. Okay. Sounds like it's a better option to focus on ruining the vote buttons. — MrUpsidown 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tsyvarev
Do even those two small sentences require attribution? Would I be more familiar with SQL and its concepts, I am imaging myself to construct the very same sentences without ever seeing them before. I agree with previous commenters that the answer is not in the best shape, but being treated as plagiarized... Really? — Tsyvarev 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
@MrUpsidown Are you saying that it's not a duplicate of those questions? To me, it looks fairly clearly to be a duplicate of those, just combined into a single FR question. I could be wrong. I can also understand a significant level of frustration regarding this, and many other things, not being addressed. — Makyen ♦ 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
BTW: for yourself, you can show an indication that you've voted to delete or close by adding the following CSS: /* Indicate you've voted to close */ .js-post-menu button[title*="You"] .existing-flag-count:after, .js-post-menu button[title*="you"] .existing-flag-count:after { content:")*";} /* Indicate you've voted to delete */ .js-post-menu button.js-delete-post[title*="You"]:after, .js-post-menu button.js-delete-post[title*="you"]:after { content:"*"; position: relative; right:.3em; }Makyen ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
I am saying it is not a duplicate of the 2nd question you marked as a duplicate. It is indeed a duplicate of the 1st one but it is 6 years old and indeed it is frustrating to see feature requests that gather quite much interest just left aside while you are trying to enforce unwanted UI changes at the same time. But never mind... — MrUpsidown 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
"Am I supposed to have checked if it was plagiarized?" - You should be on the look at for plagiarized content in general.. You are also suppose to check if the answer has been deleted. You are suppose to use all the tools on your toolbelt, the ssytem was designed, for you to pass audits. @Tsyvarev - "Do even those two small sentences require attribution?" - If you are quoting somebody else the answer to this question would be: Yes. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makyen
Please don't lump moderators in with SE wrt. anything regarding what changes happen with the site's UI (unless you find explicit statements from a specific moderator). Moderators have only slightly more access to communicating with employees with respect to discussing such changes. We certainly don't have the ability to dictate that changes will or won't happen with the site's UI. Many/most (all???) of us substantially disagree with some, if not many/most, of the recent UI changes (actual/proposed/being investigated). Many of those changes have made our moderating much harder. — Makyen ♦ 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tim Lewis
Instead of 4 spaces for a code block, use ```JS { your code here } ```Tim Lewis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by evolutionxbox
Use a snippet instead (the <> button) — evolutionxbox 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
@evolutionxbox that's code that won't run in a browser, appears to be Express or similar. — jonrsharpe 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user18807217
Yes, it is node.js and express — user18807217 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by evolutionxbox
@jonrsharpe sorry, I made that assumption due to the sentence "both the tags "javascript", and "html" into my post". — evolutionxbox 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user18807217
"html" comes from html forms, and it was being submitted to a expressjs form handler — user18807217 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user18807217
Also, why the downvotes? — user18807217 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MrUpsidown
I am not. But you are right, I should not have said you but rather SE employees in my last comment. This FR was getting some interest and you (this time it is you) just closed it in favor of a 6 years old FR that nobody seems to have cared about for quite some time. As I said, never mind, I'll live with it. — MrUpsidown 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@Tsyvarev - I have been able to find entire PowerShell scripts plagiarized by looking for keywords within 5 minutes of research — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jasper de Vries
@ZoestandswithUkraine I still see the ftl tag in the linked question. Is a synonym not instant? — Jasper de Vries 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
Though I was able to log into my Google account today without two-factor authentication. But I think I saw some message this month about it becoming mandatory within a few weeks. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user18807217
thanks! But because there is already another answer out there, this question is being deleted. — user18807217 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
I can not reproduce the problem. I tried with a (fresh) install of Firefox on Windows 10 Home, 32 bit (current with this month's Windows Update) running inside VirtualBox 6.1.30 on Ubuntu MATE 20.04 (Focal Fossa) (used for configuring a mechanical keyboard with macros). — Peter Mortensen 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The Windows 10 system had never had Firefox installed before. The Firefox version is 102.0. — Peter Mortensen 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
I synonymized but didn't merge; not sure why I didn't merge, they're all about the same thing. Will fix — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
I can not reproduce the problem. I tried with a (fresh) install of Firefox (32 bit by default for unknown reasons) on Windows 10 Home 64 bit, (current with this month's Windows Update) running inside VirtualBox 6.1.30 on Ubuntu MATE 20.04 (Focal Fossa) (used for configuring a mechanical keyboard with macros). — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Proposed canonical link: [Stack Snippets](https://meta.stackoverflow.com/q/358992) (icon looks like `<>` on the editor toolbar)Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The Windows 10 system had never had Firefox installed before. The Firefox version is 102.0. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdul Aziz Barkat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by fabpico
@ErikA .. review results of a webdev-specific survey, there are plenty of them around already on sites that specialize in web devs. Can you tell me some of these sites? — fabpico 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tim Lewis
@user18807217 don't worry too much about downvotes on Meta; they have a different meaning than on Stackoverflow. All they mean here is that this question isn't needed, as there is already a clear answer to your question available elsewhere. You're welcome to delete this question if you'd like them removed, but they have no impact on your reputation or anything. — Tim Lewis 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cris Luengo
"helping to surface more up-to-date answers" does not mean that the answers on top are more up to date. It just says that it helps you to find the answers that are more up to date. Which is true. — Cris Luengo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by William Humphries
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by TTT
@deep64blue and others...that's a nuanced, though valid point. Regardless, in my case, it was a typo. I really need to use a larger font... — TTT 1 min ago
 
3:12 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rob
I am so thankful I don't work for SO. A community constantly asking for change that is so sensitive adding a circle around an arrow causes uproar. I'm so grateful my brain works in away that I can use websites without having my brain explode by minute changes. — rob 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ruffin
@MichaelDelgado Can you explain how it's a benefit? Is it the circles themselves that make it easier to find the voting? Are you using a screenreader and there's some CSS or similar that's better with this design? If it's limited to colorblindness, what's the specific advantage? That the selected arrow, up or down, is much more distinctly selected now? How does that help your day-to-day (aka What use case does this change unlock?)? Mostly just curious, as I have some input on my employer's websites, eg. ;) — ruffin 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cris Luengo
I fail to see what is better about the old version? How is the new one not clearly upvoted? — Cris Luengo 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
Hum..., mini-Note, sdd should review the Content of the Tag Wiki for that Tag (/tags/ftl/info), at least the "we provide" Section sounds like copied verbatim (or using the "P"-Word: plagiarized) from somewhere else, without any Attribution... :idea: — chivracq 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
Hum..., mini-Note, sbd should review the Content of the Tag Wiki for that Tag (/tags/ftl/info), at least the "we provide" Section sounds like copied verbatim (or using the "P"-Word: plagiarized) from somewhere else (...?), without any Attribution... :idea: — chivracq 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ruffin
Well done. Hope SO restarted the A/B testing. Or now limit the results to day theme. — ruffin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Izkata
@CrisLuengo For me, the new one looks like a focused-but-not-clicked highlight — Izkata 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cris Luengo
@Izkata The only reason you don't say that about the old one is because you have been looking at those for 11+ years. You're used to the old thing and don't like change. This is understandable, but not a good argument, if the new thing indeed improves accessibility as they claim. — Cris Luengo 20 secs ago
 
4:25 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe stands with Ukraine
Sigh... Nuked both the wiki and excerpt. They're both overwhelmingly plagiarism. Feel free to replace with a non-plagiarized one — Zoe stands with Ukraine ♦ 1 min ago
 
4:39 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
@Zoe, ah-ah, yep indeed, but improving the Tag Wiki and the Excerpt can better be done by "sbd" with Knowledge about the Tag/Technology, I don't know anything about it, not "my Tag"... :wink: — chivracq 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by V2Blast
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Kampgrounds Of America. — user4581301 1 min ago
 
 
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7:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by luminol
<kbd>I wonder</kbd> if the KBD tag is only parsed in questions and answers, and not allowed for comments. — luminol 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by canon
I'm used to grey signifying a disabled state; so, these buttons make more sense to me. That said, the design is still rife with interactive elements which don't look like they're available. — canon 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Prid
@canon: good point, but more important is consistency. If a website has one button design, it's pretty easy to learn its function and expect similar buttons to have same function. But with this "new" button design, you get a mix of different button designs, like you said, and that creates confusion and uncertainty, which leads to more friction and users having to re-learn the website's interactive behavior. — Prid 15 secs ago
 
7:42 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chivracq
Yep, "typical" Example of "Fake Content / Fake Users", using the "Vietnamese Method", (some Explanation...), started to "emerge" 4 years ago, in 2018..., => for VN IP's, the "Purpose" is 6 months later to silently edit their Posts with Spam-Links... For IN/PK/RU + Proxy/VPN IP's, always from self-proclaimed "SEO-Experts" [sic...!], they usually try to gain some Traffic/SEO from their Profile/Signature... :funny: — chivracq 38 secs ago
 
8:09 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Your first example is closed, and the second isn't a recommendation question. — Kevin B 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
Using old questions to justify whether a question is on-topic, or not, is not a good idea, because there are lots of old questions that are off-topic but simply haven't been closed yet. In this case, the C++ one is closed already. The Java one is phrased as a resource request, but can be edited into a "how-to" question, which I've just done. If you can edit your question in a similar fashion, it can possibly be reopened. — cigien 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Paulie_D
One of those questions is closed and the remaining open one is 10 years old. Stackoverflow.com was very different then and standards have changed in the interim. — Paulie_D 1 min ago
 
8:22 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
You should definitely be able to @-mention the group in a comment. Since we cannot see your screen, can you provide us with more details about what steps you've taken and what is going wrong? — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by canon
Yeah, that's what I meant by, "still rife with interactive elements which don't look like they're available." The change (while better) is inconsistent with the unintuitive way they've designed everything else. — canon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Liz
Should the mention be highlighted/autocompleting when typing? Mine does not. — Liz 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Yes, it should. It is working for me on at least one of my Teams. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
 
 
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9:44 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick stands with Ukraine
Historically users could choose for their own questions to be CW, and the post timeline suggests that's what happened so.... because OP wanted it to be one? — Nick stands with Ukraine 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Back in 2014, posts were automatically converted to "Community Wiki" if the author edited them too many times. That was later determined to be a misfeature, and it was removed. I've also gone ahead and removed the wiki status on the linked question because it's clearly not a wiki (it's only ever had one author). — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Enlico
So historically there was no requirement for a question/answer to be eligible as a CW? — Enlico 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
It was not a manual wiki-fication, @Nick. — Cody Gray ♦ 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick stands with Ukraine
There were indeed no requirements, indeed originally it was enforced in some circumstances as Cody suggested (10 edits, although in this case it appears it was the 11th edit) — Nick stands with Ukraine 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Enlico
@CodyGray, something tells me I won't get my +10 rep, am I correct? — Enlico 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I don't know what you mean by "requirement ... to be eligible". There's no requirement now. Just various ways that a post can be assigned Community Wiki status. Back in 2014, there was another way: multiple edits. That way has been removed, but the CW status wasn't retroactively removed from posts. — Cody Gray ♦ 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick stands with Ukraine
And the reputation will be recalculated as if the post were never a CW, you'll get your rep — Nick stands with Ukraine 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Your +10 from what? The upvote on your answer to that question? Yeah, you should. I also removed the CW status from all answers, in addition to the question, so everyone should get a windfall of rep from that. (You're welcome! ;-)) But you'll have to wait until rep is recalculated. — Cody Gray ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Enlico
I thought of something like "the question must be answerable in several alternative ways". A bit like the questions asking how to start learning a language. — Enlico 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Enlico
@CodyGray, thanks :D — Enlico 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jim
@PeterMortensen: I am on a Mac and have installed the Firefox 102.0 64 bit — Jim 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
Ah, no. CW doesn't mean "answerable in different ways" or anything to do with the content. These days, it literally means "intended to be edited by everyone", without any notion of original authorship (and thus no need to preserve author's intent when editing). — Cody Gray ♦ 27 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
I was just thinking how I often see the same thing with upvotes. And also that I don't see nearly enough gibberish comments posted on this site. — Cody Gray ♦ 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
"Community Wiki", as it is named, is really intended for collaborative work, and thus it also reduces the requirement for full edit privilege to a mere 100-rep. Unfortunately, the real purpose of CW is rarely applied and instead, misused. — Andrew T. 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Why do some of your questions get 10 or more upvotes? — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
"a very small portion of users who do not respect users questions" Citation needed. But if it's only a small number of people, perhaps we should do something to encourage more downvotes. — Dharman ♦ 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Downvotes are not bad. They are a good thing. They are the way we rate not useful content. It doesn't mean that you ask bad questions, just that the community doesn't really find them useful. You can try to pick the topic you ask about more carefully, but it's always a gamble. Some questions might sound useful to you, but not to viewers. It's not a personal judgement on you, it's just how content rating works. — Dharman ♦ 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Ouellet
@Dharman, Citation needed? It is not clear? I 'm talking about voting down without comments. For me it is a huge disrespect for the user. If you ever ask a question that is very important to you and receive many downvote, you will understand very quickly. Question that start negatively are very likely to be never answered and/or has a lot less attention. So a downvote should be used with caution and only when it really requires it. Doing so also should include a reason for the user to understand why. — Eric Ouellet 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Have you looked at my profile? I asked a lot of questions that are negatively scoring. They are all important to me. I also have some deleted ones that were important to me. I don't demand comments from people, because it would be extremely annoying to see each downvote accompanied by "Hey, I don't find this questions useful -1" comment. — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Asking people to comment when they vote would be really annoying and pretty much useless. The vote already tells you everything the voter had to say. You can hover over the button to see the tooltip. — Dharman ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Ouellet
@Dharman, Those that would answer: "Hey, I don't find this questions useful -1" should be simply banned from this website. That would be a simple question of respect. No respect => no rights to participate. A participation comes with powers, but also with responsabilities. — Eric Ouellet 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
If we implement this suggestion I would suggest it's also required for upvotes, and we raise the requirement to upvote to 50 reputation, since it would be unfair that users who downvote a vote are able to submit comment explaining their before they have the ability to submit a comment. — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
How is it a lack of respect? Why is it more reason to ban than asking unhelpful questions? If anything, we should ban more people who ask questions that score negatively. — Dharman ♦ 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
You seem to be operating under the serious misapprehension that downvotes are on users. They are not, they are on posts. Therefore, there's no way that downvoting a post (with or without a comment) could be a sign of disrespect for a user. Many of the claims that you make are incorrect, but also irrelevant. Downvotes are a content-rating system. If you disagree with them and cannot find any way to improve the post, then there's no need for you to take any action. There is no need for any additional feedback. That is the entire point of a voting system. — Cody Gray ♦ 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Ouellet
@Dharman, It seems that we will never be on the same vision on this. I will stop because I feel it goes nowhere. Thanks for your feedback. — Eric Ouellet 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Ouellet
@SecurityHound, I don't understand why you bring upvote. A downvote is negative. An upvote is positive. There is absolutely no connection with my point. I'm talking about respect, staying positive when we don't understand something. Voting down is too easy and peoples does not understand all the impacts of their click. — Eric Ouellet 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dharman
Voting up is also too easy — Dharman ♦ 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@EricOuellet - If you have a problem with a user casting a downvote without a comment, then you should have a problem with that same person, casting an upvote without a comment. — Security Hound 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
If you are submitting questions and are receiving downvotes that quickly, that tells me the problem is with the question, not the voters issuing the downvotes. In order to justify the hundreds of comments being submitted, that wouldn't be seen as helpful by the community or the author at the end of the day, the threshold for a question ban would have to be lowered a great deal. Otherwise, the question authors who are question banned, would have so many questions with so many unedited questions and unaddressed commentary it would be insane and unmanageable. — Security Hound 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Eric Ouellet
@CodyGray, Not at all. I wonder how you can say that. Downvote is only based on content. Many peoples donwvote when they don't understand or can't answer. A justification requiered for a question downvote would prevent most downvotes on it because in most case I saw, there was no reason for it. — Eric Ouellet 7 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
"If you ever ask a question that is very important to you [...]", umm... there is no sense of importance or urgency on this Q&A site. Every question is the same, nothing more or less. At the very least, this site is not a personal help desk... — Andrew T. 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
"Voting down is too easy" so do voting up, and pity/sympathy upvotes are also a problem. — Andrew T. 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cody Gray
"Many peoples donwvote when they don't understand or can't answer." Yes, of course they do! That's exactly when people should be downvoting: when a question is unclear, lacks sufficient information to be answering, and/or cannot be understood as written. That's easily the most popular reason by far for downvoting a question. — Cody Gray ♦ 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@EricOuellet - I took a quick look at of your most recent questions. You received feedback with regards to your question almost every single instance, where the question had been downvoted, and not a single one of those questions was modified to address that feedback you received. I ever expanded to some answers, which were actually comments, but that is something else entirely. I got tried of trying to explain that, a comment, doesn't make a good answer. I looked all the way back to 2018 for downvotes. Majority of your questions upvoted. — Security Hound 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
You wouldn't be complaining if you had only received a half dozen downvotes in the last 90 days, which tells me, you have asked questions and they are currently deleted. I spend a great deal of time on my primary community. I can see deleted questions and answers on that community. I have personally seen users who will delete their contribution, the minute they receive a single downvote, even if a comment is submitted. So if you are asking if I think submitting a required comment, I know it won't happen, because the behavior I describe is not only insulting to the community it's COMMON — Security Hound 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Samathingamajig
This is a good example of how changes should be made. Opt-in, not changing something where it takes a lot of effort for people to restore original functionality/design. — Samathingamajig 1 min ago
 

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