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12:00 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John Montgomery
@SylvesterKruin Ostensibly, it means the site is designed to work well at any browser size. In practice, it looks more like they're optimizing the mobile experience at the expense of desktop users. — John Montgomery 29 secs ago
 
12:55 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
As someone using 1a 27" 4K screen, part of the reason I opted for the HUGE mouse pointer, I don't find the example overly unrealistic. — user4581301 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
What we need is a customizable system where we can drag and drop the components we want to see where and how large we see them. And World Peace while you're at it. — user4581301 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by charlietfl
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
I’m voting to close this question because itis now soved. — nbk 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CristiFati
Thank you charlietfl, Nick. — CristiFati 1 min ago
 
1:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cocomac
@idmean How about keep this new layout for mobile, and go back to the old one for non-mobile devices (laptops, desktops, etc.) — cocomac 24 secs ago
 
1:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Boann
It takes up so much space. It's so horribly claustrophobic. — Boann 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dai
@Boann that's kenophobia — Dai 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Boann
@Dai No, it's claustrophobic, because the useless space makes the page cluttered. It's just like New Reddit. Horrid. — Boann 20 secs ago
 
 
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3:24 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
Does this answer your question? The [music] has finally stoppedNick 44 secs ago
 
4:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheGeneral
@cigien You removed the best part? :) — TheGeneral 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
"teach teachers how to teach their kids on how to use Stack Overflow" - SO can't even teach the average user how to use Stack Overflow. What makes you think they can teach other people to teach other people how to? — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheGeneral
@nick Be that as it may.... actually good point. Maybe we can all chip in? — TheGeneral 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
AFAIK, some users will get Stack Overflow ads (like these) that will point to respective localized SO based on certain condition: 1) not using ad-blocker, 2) not enabling "reduced ads" privilege, 3) targeted to them (based on HTTP Header request) — Andrew T. 18 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheGeneral
An artists representation of what that might look like brisbanekids.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/…TheGeneral 21 secs ago
 
4:35 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheGeneral
@cigen I like your work, however It was better the way it was. Just saying — TheGeneral 45 secs ago
 
4:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
Hmm, I'm not entirely sure what you mean by "its now only a tribute". My edits were only meant to clean up the language. Have those edits changed the intent of your question in any way? — cigien 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheGeneral
@cigien its missing a bit of the pizzazz. However its fine, and portrays the meaning well without getting downvoted into next year, — TheGeneral 1 min ago
 
5:09 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by JK.
They do not read the existing tour or help pages. Why do you think they would read this? — JK. 32 secs ago
 
5:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chris Schaller
I used to use the SO profile page as an example of a good ERP dashboard, all the relevant information packed into a nice single page view. More and more software takes the new responsive style that has less information and forces you to click around to find what you want, instead of having a top level interface so I don't have to click anywhere else. Can we have a perference option to enable the better detailed layout — Chris Schaller 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rob
You missed a few important points: meta.stackexchange.com/a/10250/282094 (find: "When should I consider migration, and when is it inappropriate?"), and also should read: codereview.stackexchange.com/help/dont-askRob 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chris Schaller
We need to take the core audience into account here, SO is about code and code related issues... If you're posting, answering or moderating on SO and you don't own at least 1 x 27" screen, um... I'd safely assume you're in the minority — Chris Schaller 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chris Schaller
Maybe SO wants us all to transition to portrait orientation for our dev screens... Maybe the next April Fools drop will be a 8" monitor that we can clip onto the edge of our dev rigs so we don't get offended by all the whitespace — Chris Schaller 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cocomac
@ChrisSchaller Sure, a lot of devs have a nice big screen. But sometimes, especially when I'm on-the-go, I'll write code on a laptop, which is usually either 13" or 15", so I think a good responsive design should look great on all platforms: all the way from a mobile phone to a big ultrawide. That's kind of the entire point of responsive design. It's, well... responsive to it's platform. But this new design looks good on mobile, but not desktop, which is bad. — cocomac 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Chris Schaller
@cocomac that's it I guess, I'm on board with the concept of a responsive design, but not responsive that means I get the same content that fits on a mobile to spread out or zoom on my desktop, which is what everyone seems to be doing, what I want is a layout that uses responsive techniques to hide or present content depending on the size of the screen, so collapse detailed areas into accordions or tabs for small screens. SO used to be a leader, now its becoming just another follower — Chris Schaller 1 min ago
 
 
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7:52 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marco Bonelli
Honestly I would just put your entire answer in a <h1> tag. — Marco Bonelli 14 secs ago
 
8:14 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kaiido
For me the discrepancy between Chrome and Firefox is in the wrapping of the text. Firefox seems happy to wrap at any + or , etc. characters, while Chrome (weirdly?) doesn't want to wrap anywhere in these lines. Adding an overflow-wrap: anywhere; may make this better than allowing horizontal scrolling, which is often a pain, less space for content due to scroll-bars, or even history navigation... — Kaiido 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kami Kaze
@ChrisSchaller I have yet to see a 27" screen in a company setting... Maybe on my new job next month. I don't say they don't exist but I'll argue that 27" is not the mayority. Having 2 24" though is what I see more often. — Kami Kaze 1 min ago
 
8:39 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Travis J
The problem is the question got into the weeds with the whole pre-explaining of results. If you removed all of the speed assumptions, noted the compile types, and aimed at "how do I benchmark StringReader implementations in c#?", and included their code and some of the text, then you would have a question which the current set of close reasons wouldn't close. It is going to require a significant departure from the OP's original question though, and that means you are now solving a different problem. Is that problem really the issue the OP faced? Perhaps, but who really knows aside from them. — Travis J just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ian Kemp
Web "designers" are the bane of usable web sites because they are literally just people making fancy graphics. They don't care about any aspect of usability (because they literally aren't trained on it) and it always comes down to the frontend developers to turn the useless "designs" into something resembling a website. — Ian Kemp 1 min ago
 
 
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9:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ismael Miguel
@KevinB "Is this an out of season April fools joke?" - youtube.com/watch?v=MzKlmNLTkXMIsmael Miguel 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bhautik
When I saw the new responsive design yesterday and I am not comfortable with the layout. and, I was thinking I am the only one who doesn't like it. until I came here. I think until further improvement can we change back to previous? — Bhautik 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suraj Rao
I believe you mean kubernetes Service ? — Suraj Rao 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Suraj Rao
 
10:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
Would somebody please explain the down votes? I have searched on here and multiple posts suggest that posting a question on here tagged for support is the most appropriate course of action. — nnichols 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Downvotes can be cast to express the opinion that the question is either poorly researched, unclear, or simply not useful. — yivi 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Braiam
Lack of research: you haven't shown that there's a difference between now and then. — Braiam 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
I don't think that "New contributor" has to do anything with the closing. Unless you show some proof (e.g., numbers from the data explorer) that a systematical issue exists, the claim seems to be unfunded. About the specific question: I disagree that the initial version of the question contained all the information necessary. At least the keys are necessary, otherwise you're just guessing what the problem might be. — BDL 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
One failed audit won't cause this, and the fact you have a 16 day ban suggests you've failed more than "a few" recently. — Larnu 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Your answer hits the nail on the head. In a perfect world is should not be necessary to click through to every question/answer to do a review. But in reality, I really recommend that you do unless you like the look of that "STOP!" message you get after an unfairly failed audit. The annoyance/upset or even outrage IS preventable, but it is not going to help to demand change after every failure. It simply isn't going to be changed, unless someone has some wicked AI trick that can be implemented with greater success rates than pure randomness. — Gimby 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skyBlue
Yes I failed recently but this was not a failure. a vote should not cause you this much. — skyBlue 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I would argue that upvoting an answer that should be an edit to the question is the wrong action. — Larnu 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skyBlue
Did you read my post? I said it was a false click, like when you want to click on a line but your mouse slips. — skyBlue 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Then be more vigilant then. Like I said, this isn't the first time you've failed an audit; if this was a one off you wouldn't have got such a long ban. Perhaps take this as a chance to be more careful with your actions [in the review queue] in the future. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skyBlue
the site will allow you to change your vote in a few minutes in case you want to change it. this should be the same. — skyBlue 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skyBlue
I'm not convinced. — skyBlue 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
@yivi I still don't understand. I was trying to make the point, perhaps badly, that the OP's original question had all the detail required (the query) to see the problem. There is a simple problem with its structure. — nnichols 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
@Braiam Surely the history of the question shows that the OP has added most, not all, of the additional details requested. — nnichols 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
@BDL I think "New contributor" has everything to do with it, as new users often need prompting. I agree that this is not helpful but it is not good reason to close their questions when the original question has enough detail. I disagree with you about the need for the keys, although they are very useful especially with the cardinality output from SHOW INDEX, as the problem is clearly due to the sequence of LEFT JOINs. — nnichols 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skyBlue
That's funny!! meta is like: do you have a problem with how the things work? well you MUST NOT!! (gives a downvote) — skyBlue 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Liam
Yep, my Greek could use some work :D — Liam 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@nnichols You are saying that there is a pattern of overzealousness when moderating questions by new users. You provide an example that does not necessarily prove your point. Some users may find the question either unclear or not useful, or that it lacks the appropriate evidence research. Haven't voted myself, but that's what the downvote tooltip says. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
When you say that the original question has enough details for you to answer - does it also mean there is enough details for somebody else to benefit from your answer? Or is it only useful for OP? — VLAZ 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
@yivi Thank you. I see your point. — nnichols 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
@VLAZ I believe it would be useful to the OP and anyone who decided to view the question and answers, as an explanation of the problem with the OP's approach might help improve understanding. — nnichols 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Right but we don't tend to take answers, especially potential answers, into account to determine if a question is clear. So if you say that future visitors need to have an answer in order to understand what the problem is, does that not indicate the question is unclear? — VLAZ 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Please, read the highest voted answer on the dupe target if you haven't. It clearly explains the situation. — yivi 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
@VLAZ I see your point but the OP's question states his mission - if a customer ordered X product, what is their lifetime value and his attempted solution. His attempt has a clear structural issue and the ability to understand the issue is not enhanced by the additional details requested. Furthermore there is a standard approach to the stated mission. — nnichols 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by kristianp
For the ruby on rails questions, they are probably referring to FormHelper, which has a tag [form-helpers]. — kristianp 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
The point is that it is unfortunate that it was a misclick that pushed you over the edge, but that does not change the fact that you were already on the edge; sooner or later this review ban was going to happen. That ban happens for a reason; it is a cool down period where you give yourself a chance to slow down. There is little point in undoing the ban now that it already happened, you'll just go back to being on the edge, one failed audit away from a ban. Is that really better than waiting two weeks now? — Gimby 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skyBlue
Thanks for your response. I have another question related now which I will ask. thanks. @Gimby — skyBlue 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
If I recall correctly it halves every month that you remain unsuspended. — Nick 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by skyBlue
sorry but I didn't get it. Can you explain more? — skyBlue 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jon Clements
@skyBlue see psubsee's answer on the duplicate - that's the current system — Jon Clements ♦ 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
A large part of the workload of a diamond moderator is clearing flag queues. That begs the question, how do those flags get there to begin with? Through the efforts of the rest of the population which does really hard work to keep this site from collapsing. Raiding review queues, flagging posts, answering questions on both the main site and meta, editing, quality voting... some people spend hours of their days doing that. And this serious discussion leaves them out in the cold. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Clockwork
@IanKemp You mean UI vs UX? — Clockwork 55 secs ago
 
11:42 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
I have edited my question to remove the generalised whinge about increased closing and focus solely on this one example. Thank you for the feedback. — nnichols 27 secs ago
 
12:15 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
It's an unfamiliar situation that for once, users aren't the primary content creators (but rather people from outside (kind of)). So far, all users together have created the content. Now it feels to me a bit like content coming more from the outside but with additional feedback ability from inside. It will be interesting to see who is going to write Articles and what motivates the Article creators to do that. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
What else would you have added to the answer? Because for me it seems as if the answer states everything needed to solve the problem? The problem is that a certain feature is only available starting from a specific version and the answer states the minimal version needed to solve the problem. — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
the user has provided enough information, but as my first comment there indicates, the problem can't be soveld only which combined keys, the hole design must be reconsidered and more than helpful tips, the user will not get out of it, so a reopenung is not needed. also you have to consider, that this thread was rewritten,. so the first close votes where corrrect. — nbk 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
Something like "Since X SDK this have been added <link to doc>. You should use SQK X by set target & compile as X or newer <possible link to doc for gradle config>", something that can be more precise and can be applied to other feature. Now, is that 31 the lower version required ? Why this version precisly ? — Elikill58 28 secs ago
 
12:40 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
@nbk I agree and upvoted your comment at the time. OP's additions have highlighted other potential points of concern (over indexing, lack of normalisation) and OP has still not included the SHOW INDEX results which I think would be very helpful. But I still maintain that this does not change the fundamental structural issue with the query which is highlighted by OP's own observation about it timing out unless customers.total_orders = 1. This can be easily explained and a better/simpler approach proposed based on the original state of the question. — nnichols 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
Also: People downvote the answer (was at 15, now at 12) but also people downvote my question. So the answer is bad, but the audit is good ? What does that means ? — Elikill58 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sebastian Simon
@user4581301 When I read “a customizable system where we can drag and drop the components we want to see”, I think of the old iGoogle homepage. Don’t give them ideas… — Sebastian Simon 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
I think the discussion if it's a good audit is rather useless: Audits are automatically picked from posts the system thinks are good. In this case, 15 upvotes, no downvotes -> system thinks that it's good. How else would the system identify good posts unless by looking at the voting? — BDL 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
@BDL At the beginning I was asking if it was a good reaction/good reason to be review-banned. I know they are choosed automatically, I'm here mostly to know if I made the good think and if yes, if I can be unbanned — Elikill58 12 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
Thank you to those of you who voted to reopen OP's question. Now I shall wait for my answer to get torn to shreds. — nnichols 13 secs ago
 
1:20 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
The answer seems to combine a question and a answer. I'm not sure if it's a good idea to leave it like that. Imho, everything except for the "Apple's reply" section should be part of the question instead of the answer. — BDL just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MonkeyZeus
@Kaiido Sorry, in no way was I suggesting horizontal scrolling. My apologies if my post makes it seem that way. Horizontal scrolling is particularly annoying in code fences. — MonkeyZeus 1 min ago
 
1:37 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
@nbk Close. We get a t-shirt, a bottle (the SO one is different from the SE cup) and a hat with a diamondMachavity ♦ 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Do you mean the Winter Bash? Presumably it'll happen again, but it hasn't started yet. Last year's didn't start till around the 16th. Winter Bash 2020 hat list 👒 🎩Larnu 36 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The title is unclear. A particular first post or first posts in general? — Peter Mortensen 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nbk
@Machavity Tshirts are for some regions not enough, so i added the sweatshirt. The cup i mentioned was because i sometimes drop mine when i read some quesions and as mods you have tp read sometimes even worse — nbk 9 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
This post goes downhill after the first sentence. Yes, we just had a terrible profile rollout (and we've had it out with SE devs on some UX issues since we heavily rely on userscripts), but there's another side there as well. In the relatively short time I've been a mod I've seen some of the terrible tooling get improved by leaps and bounds. I have no idea what "vile exploitation" you think we're quietly accepting either (I'm not sure why you think Cody would accept any crap quietly). — Machavity ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
@PeterMortensen Fair point. Originally the title was pluralised and the "question" included a "whinge" about my frustration at first posts being closed while writing answers. Without having a specific list of all the questions on which I encountered this issue, I removed the whinge and singularised the title. — nnichols 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nick
The position of the close button in fullscreen has always annoyed me. Every time I have to search for it. — Nick 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
The consequence is more severe in high level online chess (could and have made a difference of more than USD 10,000). Workaround: separate the mouse click from the mouse movement. Some (commercial) keyboards with macro capability can do this (e.g., the "Ducky Shine 7" I am using). For a more DYI approach, it also done with an Arduino Leonardo (or equivalent) and (presumably) QMK. (I use it with Visual Studio Code as a Git client, for reviewing diffs, having assigned the arrow down key to the left mouse key on a keyboard "profile" only used that purpose.) — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MonkeyZeus
@Nick I always felt that something was off about snippets but never analyzed what it was exactly. I recently posted this question and while debugging my own answer I got lost and had to refresh the page to exit the snippet because I didn't realize I had to "Hide results" first. — MonkeyZeus 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Clearly the "solution" is the just use Stack Overflow on your Portrait orientated screen. Oh wait, that's really not any better... — Larnu 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MonkeyZeus
@Nick Snippets were introduced in 2014 so I finally understand why 2014 experienced so much negativity on Stack Overflow, heh. — MonkeyZeus 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Can we please stop taking youtube videos as truth. I can put a video online right now in which I completely obliterate any website of my choosing and in doing so I will likely get a whole bunch of free subscriptions because angry video rants really are a guaranteed way to attract viewers and subscribers. Even if what I say is complete bunk. Negativity sells. — Gimby 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the curator
@Gimby I mean, sure. The point of this question was to expand on why its contents are false and misguided. Since we can't just go to each deceived person individually to tell them not to believe in YouTube videos, we can at least point to this piece in the event that someone comes here with a link when trying to make a bad point. The active Meta crowd is indeed not the target audience. — E_net4 the curator 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user438383
Some old questions get upvoted a lot despite being rubbish questions. Asking for someone to provide you a solution isn't the model of SO - it is much too broad. You must ask specific, targeted questions. — user438383 38 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"Should this kind of answer be marked as low quality?" - that's a very longwinded way of saying "downvote". Ambiguous too, quite a lot of people will read it as flagging it as VERY low quality. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jonrsharpe
For one thing, you don't have to answer it. You're not required to provide feedback beyond voting, and it's probably best to not speculate why other people chose to vote the way they did (beyond the guidance on the tooltip). — jonrsharpe 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
You don't. There is no need to reply to comments about downvotes. It's not unlikely the user will think you downvoted their post, even if you didn't. At most, provide feedback in ways to improve their question, if you can think of any. — yivi 29 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the curator
For what it's worth, the second question linked is also not that great, but it was asked during the boom of TensorFlow, which attracted a great load of questions that now have a high score, in spite of their apparent low research effort or lack of focus. — E_net4 the curator 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adarsh Wase
@E_net4thecurator that's true. I got it. — Adarsh Wase 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
Thank you for the link. I still don't understand why everyone believes that the lack of standard supporting information was a good reason to close the question. I genuinely believe that all the additional information detracts from the question which was amply supported by the query. Furthermore, the explain output was not useful in this case. I concede that the inclusion of the table declarations highlighted other issues. I accept that I am clearly in the minority in my way of thinking about this and thank you for your answer. — nnichols 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
I hate it because I hate change. I've been conditioned for a decade to find the buttons on a horizontal bar and could click my most used "all actions" button blindfolded, now I have to find it in a vertical bar. It's going to take eons to unlearn. But hey... it's not like my local supermarket which likes to change the position of products every few months so I have to relearn where everything is again. That is done as a social experiment, I'm sure of it. — Gimby 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
Two simple steps: Flag -> It's no longer needed. — VLAZ 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the curator
The rest of the feedback also applies. Do not feel inclined to justify "why the downvote", but rather focus on describing any potential issues with the question that you find and wish to communicate. And flag any "why the downvote" comments as no longer needed. — E_net4 the curator 28 secs ago
 
2:55 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Okay that's fair, but still... there is just so much of a chance that these videos are created purely to attract ad revenue. Negativity, made up or otherwise, is a very safe bet. False accusations can be discussed without having to link to videos spewing them and providing them with the reason they were created to begin with; more views and subscriptions. — Gimby 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
There isn't an actual question in that post, only statements. Make it easy for the readers, probably with a question as the very first sentence. — Peter Mortensen 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
Do not ever respond to questions phrased like that; they're a landmine ready to go off. A person asking a question like that is like not looking for an answer, they're looking for someone to blame. Only respond if someone asks what can be improved. Then you have a reasonable certainty that they are actually seeking to improve something. — Gimby 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
"it would require giving my login" - The entire point of a MCVE is to provide the simplest example of code that produces the issue. You can simply provide fake authentication information in your MCVE. Your likely NOT going to get an answer to your question without a MCVE even if you offer a bounty. — Security Hound 22 secs ago
 
3:19 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by iLuvLogix
"How to ask a question on stack overflow when you have no idea how to get the problem done or how to get it ?" When you literally have no idea about the problem or how to grasp it, I guess there's no distinct question to be asked from the beginning. — iLuvLogix 32 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tariq Ahmed
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
If you don't know what the problem is, how can anyone here, who has no access to any of the people you are asking for help from have any idea? You need to first work out what you want and need before anyone can help you achieve that. — Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
Start with an outline. A title that is descriptive, tags that are related to your problem (what language, what library, other bits,) create an MRE that demonstrates the problem you specified in your title, and then some text at the very top of your question that more thoroughly describes your problem. Before clicking Post, try to solve your problem again given the information in the question. — Kevin B 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kaiido
@MonkeyZeus well, the issue here is that Chrome doesn't overflows this text in the <code> element, and that StackOverflow's stylesheet disabled the horizontal scrolling in its container. So yes, your issue is actually asking for an horizontal scroll. — Kaiido 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kaiido
This would break in the middle of any word in any text, even ones with normal white spaces in between. A better fix would be .as-console-row-code { overflow-wrap: anywhere; }Kaiido 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dbc
Agree. But isn't Responsive Web Design supposed to be about adapting the layout of the site to the browser's size? An early example was the Boston Globe which, around a decade ago, rewrote its web site to dynamically change format to one, two or three columns based on browser dimensions. The new Profile page seems to be the opposite of responsive -- its layout is fixed and doesn't respond to browser window size. — dbc 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steve Summit
@Gimby OT, but the reason your supermarket rearranges everything has a darker motive: they're hoping that, while you're roaming the aisles looking for something, you'll notice something that wasn't on your list and buy that too. (And it must work, because they spend crazy amounts of money doing those periodic rearrangements.) — Steve Summit 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"How to ask a question on stack overflow when you have no idea how to get the problem done or how to get it" - you don't. If you're stuck you need personal assistance or further study, you do not ask a question in a Q&A repository. Wrong tool for the job. — Gimby 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@SteveSummit I know all about that, I make it a rule to not go there hungry. — Gimby 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Don&#39;t Panic
There's not just one simple answer for this. It really depends on how far away from the solution you are. If you're already familiar with the programming language and tools you intend to use to solve the problem, and you already have a program that's just missing the one bit you can't figure out, it's a totally different situation than it would be if you were starting from scratch and everything was totally new to you. (In the second situation, you need to do more work on your own before asking here.) — Don't Panic 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sebastian Simon
@dbc Parts of this design actually do respond to window size changes. Recent changes have turned some sections in the Summary into a two-column layout, which turns into a one-column layout when the width decreases. Other than that, you’re right, and this has also been mentioned in this comment (and probably several other places), to which I replied: “[This] is why most of us don’t consider this redesign to be responsive , but mobile-only .”. — Sebastian Simon 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by dratenik
Finding an answerable question within your problem that would move you forward is itself a useful skill. The guidelines about how to ask and MRE are to some extent meant to trick you into solving your problem yourself. Or at least pushing you closer to it. — dratenik 31 secs ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Start with research. Look for answers elsewhere. Getting an error? Search for the error text. Need to do something? Search for "how to"<do something> in your favorite search engine. Try different words and phrases and read the resulting articles. — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@GregBurghardt today I learned. I guess that's an argument towards using date libraries until Javascript undergoes the same movement as Java has when it comes to its date/time API. — Gimby 21 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@Gimby it is currently undergoing it but it is not complete. — VLAZ 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
This is just a case you'll have to learn from. Often small answers like that pointing out a bugfix or version-related issue get heavily upvoted because a lot of people all of a sudden had this problem due to an update. When you see cases like this, it's best to visit the post and see what's up before acting on the review. — Kevin B 46 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Another Stack Snippet FR that can be ignored for 6-8. Wish we could get this thing updated... — Heretic Monkey 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Greg Burghardt
I do hope they learn from .NET's DateTime.Now design mistake, and make Temporal.Now() a function and not a property. — Greg Burghardt 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
I think you have sufficient rep to edit tag info, no? — Heretic Monkey 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Liam
I can edit the tag wiki. But my point is, the tags themselves are "wrong". I can't add synonyms as I don't have rep in those tags — Liam 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sylvester Kruin
Yay! Thank you all! That was amazingly fast: only 2 hours! — Sylvester Kruin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lou
Seems like a "designed for mobile" layout. — Lou 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Liam
I agree, there is a difference between responsive and mobile first. This appears to be the later. — Liam 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@Lou well not specifically, it's a typical responsive layout. Everything in blocks so if the dimensions change, things can overflow to different rows (and they do). I would more say this benefits laptops with smaller screen sizes. — Gimby 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
There is a new revision (actual code added). — Peter Mortensen 17 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@nnichols "I genuinely believe that all the additional information detracts from the question which was amply supported by the query". Now consider this: you may be wrong. That is possible, don't you agree? Generally it is not a great idea to as a question asker, the person stuck and in need of help, to dictate what is and isn't useful to the people you are asking for help. You're not here to put people to work. — Gimby 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Peter Mortensen
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
If you don't know how to start something, what you absolutely don't do is start by asking a question on the Internet about how to get started. You start by performing extensive research into what it is you're trying to solve. Then, you start applying what you've learned. If you run into specific issues, then you could introduce someone else into the equation to see if they know a way to solve your problem or mitigate your concern. But definitely don't start with involving random strangers on the Internet to help you figure this out. Not unless you're paying them consulting rates. — Makoto 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
@Elikill58 "if I can be unbanned" - keep in mind you would be going back to a state where you are one failed audit away from being banned again. Does having that knowledge sound appealing to you? It doesn't to me, I'd rather just eat the ban I have and afterwards be cautiously optimistic that it is never going to catch me ever again. — Gimby 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Makoto
It's really not worth the effort. It's not even your responsibility to do this. — Makoto 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
I'll echo the sentiment that it's not nearly as bad on a 1080p monitor, here's how it looks on my 22 inch. You've also got a nearly empty profile, making the empty space even more noticeable... That still doesn't discount the fact that it does look pretty mediocre on a 4k monitor though. — zcoop98 26 secs ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by MonkeyZeus
@Kaiido I like it, thanks! Answer updated. — MonkeyZeus 41 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
KevinB: Yes, and I think I will make a proposal to never have review audit for good post (such as Suggested edit review queue).. @Gimby Yes, I know. If mod think I'm wrongly banned, why wait until full ban time ? I will just make more attention about those types of post which have upvote instead they are not so good. — Elikill58 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Elikill58
@JonClements Thanks you <3 — Elikill58 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MonkeyZeus
@HereticMonkey 6-8 what, "business years"? 😅 — MonkeyZeus 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Heretic Monkey
Well, the official meme is "weeks" but we've taken it to mean any sufficiently abstract period of time :) — Heretic Monkey 40 secs ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by user17242583
"Azure Azure Kubernetes Service" is ok. Have you never "Amazon Amazon Web Services" (Amazon AWS)? :) — user17242583 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by nnichols
@Gimby of course, I may be wrong. I am not infallible and I don't profess to be an expert. If the OP does not have customers who have made multiple purchases, then I am completely wrong and will be first to apologise for completely . But assuming there are at least some customers who have placed many orders, the issue of the Cartesian product of those 5 sets is undeniable, and easily avoidable. — nnichols 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user4581301
Laptops. Tablets. Pah. Where's the VR support? — user4581301 25 secs ago
 
5:54 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
This post belongs on Main; this is Stack Overflow's meta site. — zcoop98 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joshua Voskamp
@Rob Thanks for both of those links; that makes a lot of sense and I understand. — Joshua Voskamp 1 min ago
 
6:10 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by visualnotsobasic
If I can comment on this from the perspective of likely being one of those people, it's probably one of the most useful packages for a lot of traditional corporate jobs. — visualnotsobasic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laif
@visualnotsobasic the part I don't fully understand is why it is being used to accomplish tasks that python is fully capable of on its own, and it the majority of cases, much more simple to accomplish. Is there some reason people in traditional corporate jobs feel that pandas is the way to accomplish what they want when just learning basic python and using that would be all-together more simple? — Laif 53 secs ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Erik A
The new variant seems like a solid improvement overall. Even if question quality does not improve, I'd prefer it, since it may give people insight in why their question failed. After thinking up a question, deciding to create an account and pressing Ask question, there already is a substantial commitment to ask it, even if it's off-topic. A more informative dialog may have benefits outside of direct improvements to question quality, such as less confusion when a question is received poorly. — Erik A 1 min ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sylvester Kruin
@user4581301 Not all laptops are uselessly small. My laptop has a 15-inch screen (so sort of medium-sized), and incidentally, the new profile works terribly with it. As Lou mentioned, it may benefit laptops with smaller screen sizes, although I would think it's just as easy to scroll through this new design on a larger laptop as it would be to zoom in on the old design on a smaller laptop: difficult indeed. It would be more useful to have VR support :-). — Sylvester Kruin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
Thanks for reporting! - I've updated the status of this as it's been added to our backlog of bugs. We'll update the post when we get it fixed. — Catija ♦ 52 secs ago
 
7:14 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by charlietfl
Not containing "enough code" is indeed a problem but lack of enough specific details is probably at equal percentage as lack of code. Why was "Summarize problem" removed? Code and a solid summary are equally important — charlietfl 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
Why was this migrated to meta? — BDL 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by hyper-neutrino
@BDL misclick from the migrator. @ everyone don't downvote this it's not like OP chose to put this here... — hyper-neutrino 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
I found tablesgenerator.com/markdown_tables from another meta post somewhere. Possibly other "markdown table generator" sites may work. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scott
What is your ‘‘small but complicated table’’ link supposed to be illustrating? — Scott 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
You could start writing a post on MSE as that has the new wysiwyg editor that does support tables as well as automatic screw-up of links. — rene 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user17242583
Can a mod featured this ti give it more visibility? — user17242583 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
I must admit, it is silly that this should even be said, but I don't disagree that people need to be reminded. In browser translators, in my opinion, are the real fault here, but considering that the volume of non-English posts isn't small, it can't go amiss. — Larnu 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Larnu
Are there any plans to implement something like this for Meta as well? It would be nice to let first time posters on meta know that they are on Meta. Far too often do we see people posting coding questions here. Though, if they haven't noticed that they are on meta, I suppose do we have any hope of them reading a model on what meta is?Larnu 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
@rene an answer on MSO or MSE would work for that but not a question. ;) — Catija ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
There is already What is an off-by-one error and how do I fix it? which is language agnostic and deals with loops of the sort for (int i = 0; i <= arrayLength; i++) and thus go out of bounds of the array indexes. I feel it's in the same vein of what you propose, so we have a precedent. — VLAZ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
@Catija I opted-out of that whole thing after a major mishap due to me misunderstanding how that editor works. I didn't even know I could enable it here on MSO. — rene 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Catija
@rene Yeah, understood. Actually, the test opts you in on both sites simultaneously. I have it on but I will often use a question to compose an answer because I don't like it. :D I do think they're starting to look at bugs and improvements but I don't have any sort of timeline. I think that the general feedback indicated that so much additional work was needed, it got de-prioritized. That said, Ben did show me that he's worked out how to do biblio-formatting for links again, which makes me very excited. It's a stupid bit considering what all is wrong but I like it a lot. — Catija ♦ just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Yari
Thank you for reporting this. It's fixed now.Yari ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
Are you suggesting a single FAQ that covers many of these basic errors? I feel like that would be too broad, and would basically be an RTFM target. One canonical per question is much more reasonable, even if it's language-agnostic. — cigien 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Matt Schuchard
For the sake of comparison, the tag for EKS is amazon-eks, and the tag for GKE is google-kubernetes-engine. That would make it one similar to azure-aks, one similar to azure-kubernetes-service, and zero similar to aks. — Matt Schuchard 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Marijn
@Makoto It is indeed not your responsibility (I don't think users have any kind of responsibility towards other users other than following the Code of Conduct) but that doesn't mean it's not worth the effort - sometimes it isn't, other times it is. — Marijn 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TylerH
Microsoft calls it "AKS" or "Azure Kubernetes Service"; they don't call it "Azure AKS". I would recommend renaming it to microsoft-aks with azure-kubernetes-service and aks as synonyms. — TylerH 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Nat Riddle
I support this! Few things better for Stack Exchange, Inc. to focus on than addressing the flood of poor quality questions at the root. — Nat Riddle 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Barmar
@VLAZ I almost always VTC those as typo. I know it's technically a logic error, but it's so trivial. But I'll save that dupe. — Barmar 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scott
Related (but, oddly, highly upvoted): ‘‘Why answer a question not worth your upvote?’’ — Scott 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Barmar
@cigien Yes, I'm suggesting a single FAQ, along the lines of What does this regex mean and What does this symbol mean in PHP. Each individual error seems too trivial for its own question, so I thought a collection in one place would be easier. — Barmar 44 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by VLAZ
@cigien I'm fairly sure it was a suggestion for one-per-problem. Doesn't really make sense otherwise. — VLAZ 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by visualnotsobasic
@laif what i found when i was starting out learning (at least from googling my own resources) is that it just happens to be what comes up when you slap in "excel" in a search term. could you provide an example of what you mean when you say python on its own - like a task someone might use pandas for that wouldn't need it? i'm sure i could use that knowledge for my own use cases. i think a lot of the internet (medium/other articles that come up, etc.) also default to pandas for a lot of these. i know it's a way of thinking i'm definitely stuck in and would love to break out of — visualnotsobasic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
Ah, in that case, I don't think it's a good idea. I don't know about the PHP question you linked, but the regex one is definitely an RTFM target, and actually using such a broad question like that in any tag other than regex would be frowned upon (why regex is allowed to be an exception, I don't know, but that's a separate issue). I don't really see the problem with a canonical for each specific problem. Even if they're trivial, that's fine; SO is full of highly specific, basic, questions, and I think that's fine. — cigien 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ruffin
I'd really like to know the motivation for so much UI churn since Prosus took over. I understand the desire for the UI to be responsive, but beyond that, the fonts, the redesigns, the fixing what's not broken -- does this even make them more money? Is this demonstrably increasing engagement (compared to not doing the work/the trajectory before the work was done)? It feels like work/change for work's/change's sake. Who's piloting this thing? — ruffin 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Machavity
I should note that [azure-kubernetes] is already a synonym. For completeness I did add [azure-kubernetes-service] as another synonym. It makes no sense to call this [microsoft-aks], since every other Azure tag is [azure-*] — Machavity ♦ 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@ruffin "the fixing what's not broken" is what i think you're missing. Just because it looks good and works for us users, doesn't mean it's not "broken", or written in a way that's very expensive to maintain. Now that the QA functionality is being used for a paid product, Teams, it's wise to update the old outdated hard to maintain bits to future proof it. — Kevin B 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laif
@visualnotsobasic I can't conjure anything relevant at the moment, perhaps later, but the first thing that comes to mind are the myriad of dataframes questions to parse csvs or the like when something like a dictionary or python's csv package would be much more simple. — Laif 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Barmar
Also Definitive List of Common Reasons for Segmentation Faults. There are quite a few "kitchen sink" questions like these. — Barmar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ruffin
@dbc Yes, 100%. What we have here is a failure to accommodate. Responsive design isn't always, in practice, one design to rule them all. Whoever they have designing is being driven by the wrong principles and obviously isn't a regular use of the pages they're redesigning on their PC (which, as this answer points out, has to be the most popular use case for SO, at any rate). /le sighruffin 30 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ruffin
@KevinB I'd be surprised if you have to cut the info that's on the page in half to test it. Does the plumbing for the old version stink? I'll buy that (though I'm suspicious!). Does the new version have to be info poor to be maintainable? No. — ruffin 16 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
@ruffin i absolutely agree, and think the way they rolled this out was pretty awful. We've already seen some great strides toward fixing the problems that it launched with yesterday, but it still has a ways to go. — Kevin B 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Kevin B
The summary page for example is already far better now than it was when it launched. Less padding all round, back to 2 columns, numbers were returned on the menu, but it still has some bugs, and many of the other activity tabs are still in pretty rough shape — Kevin B 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Henry Ecker
[ Boson ] New comment posted by visualnotsobasic
@laif 1/2 i think again what comes to mind there is that most of the time (at least in the businesses i'm familiar with) pandas just seems simpler and more versatile? i find that - as mentioned above too, since a lot of uni/online courses just teach them in tandem - people can get away with using python + pandas without really understanding programming simply because of how intuitive it is? i think it's worked in the reverse for a lot of people like us, and for that i'm sorry. if i found that i couldn't use pandas for something (csv on a webpage but it requires credentials or something) then — visualnotsobasic 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by visualnotsobasic
@laif 2/2 all of a sudden i'm now being forced to look at the basic requests library and learn things around that. and it's not efficient, and it doesn't make sense, and it forces you to go from having bad code to good practices as opposed to learning good practices first, but i think that this is a large part of the struggle for a lot of us — visualnotsobasic 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Laif
Learning basic python is very easy, when people come here to ask questions (especially given the fact they are all almost universally duplicates of already answered questions) and their question concerns a basic programming concept, I find that to not demonstrate any form of self-research. At the end of the day I'm not really concerned with what is being done and how people are doing it, just that they feel justified in asking questions like they do here. — Laif 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Teemu
The Start writing button shouldn't be visible before the user has clicked all the provided links. — Teemu 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by cigien
True, but they're not good targets. At least one moderator has stated clearly that questions like these should not be used as targets, unless the original question is something like "what are some reasons for segmentation faults?*". If a question shows some code that has a segfault, and asks how to fix it, closing it with that target would be considered an RTFM closure, and is frowned upon. — cigien 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Barmar
Yeah, now I know what you mean. I feel similarly when I see people use PHP parse/syntax errors and how to solve them or "Notice: Undefined variable", "Notice: Undefined index", and "Notice: Undefined offset" using PHP as dup targets. The OP will hardly ever be able to figure out where their problem is in those collections. — Barmar 19 secs ago
 
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