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12:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
@Scratte IIRC, I always look at the revision history to make sure. The reviewers are obviously very careless. — 10 Rep 57 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
I would suggest removing the link to the question. Just stating the scenario would be better for a faq question. — 10 Rep 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GalaxyCat105
@10Rep You're right. I'll do it right now. — GalaxyCat105 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GalaxyCat105
This would make a great faq question. — GalaxyCat105 39 secs ago
 
1:51 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 10 Rep
State the ccby license of the image. — 10 Rep 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
They had all the time in the world to check that the question included the code and enough info to make the question answerable before posting the question, but sometimes people don't even bother to look at or think about the post preview for some reason — CertainPerformance 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ken Y-N
OK, I understand! I should be full ruthlessness when VTCing - I've VTCed the actual question as the OP followed up by posting nonsense code. — Ken Y-N 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
There is also rule that answers go into answer and not comments... so following rules is not a rule as demonstrated by @Tom :) — Alexei Levenkov 1 min ago
 
2:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by charlietfl
The relatively new follow feature lets you know when question gets modified giving you a chance to rescind close request if applicable — charlietfl 40 secs ago
 
2:43 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Hovercraft Full Of Eels
The issue I have with this question is that it seems that you are requesting special handling of questions by newbies, and that is not how this site works, and has never been how the site works. Instead, the focus always has been on the question's quality, utility, and site-appropriateness, regardless of who posted it. Yes, that does mean that there is often a learning curve for newbies to get acclimated to learning how to ask well-received questions on this site, just as there is a learning curve attached to any skill. Focus on the question itself, nothing more and nothing less. — Hovercraft Full Of Eels 1 min ago
 
3:05 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
Unfortunately, the answer seems to be pretty much only the library's name plus a link to the library. See meta.stackoverflow.com/a/302223CertainPerformance 1 min ago
 
3:27 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
Ironically, if you hadn't started the bounty and given the question more attention, the answer probably wouldn't have been deleted. Also, you had about 6 days to award the bounty before the answer was deleted. Why didn't you award it then? — 41686d6564 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
The question got 3 downvotes a while ago. IIRC, aren't downvotes supposed to make a post ineligible for known-good-audits? Someone else also failed this audit — CertainPerformance 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Uni
Yes. I think this was a mistake so I posted it here. I hope this issue would have enough traffic and upvotes to bring this to the moderator's attention. — Uni 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
@41686d6564 I'd usually wait and do the same, letting a bounty run its course draws more attention to the question and its answers, which is often what one's interested in — CertainPerformance 25 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Uni
That is true. Comments shouldn't get you suspended. They can help the improve the question even if the question would pass stackoverflow guidelines. — Uni 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CertainPerformance
 
4:03 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Uni
I've look at your questions and they all start with sorry for ... Try removing them and editing your questions so that people who view your question will upvote them. Good Luck! — Uni 35 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by krlmlr
@CertainPerformance: Thanks for the link. How much time did the reviewers spend skimming over the answer? Three seconds? Five? Did they look at it in the broader context? — krlmlr 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Stephen C
@AlexeiLevenkov - Actually, I don't think there is any such rule. There is a rule that comments should not be answers ... but not the reverse. — Stephen C 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by krlmlr
@41686d6564: I tend to keep the bounty open as long as possible so that it attracts views. Are answers with a bounty on them protected from deletion? I'm happy to apply the bounty if the question were undeleted. — krlmlr 39 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@krlmlr if it's a link-only answer, maybe 250ms. — Martin James 1 min ago
 
4:33 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
@AbdellahRamadan - Edit your questions. Edit any question you have submitted including the deleted questions. If that doesn’t work, you can ask a single question in 6 months, make sure that question is extremely high quality before you submit it — Security Hound 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Security Hound
“There's probably not a technical solution, but should people (specifically I) hold off to give people a chance?” - We provided that time before the question was submitted but after the help center guidance was read. — Security Hound 1 min ago
 
4:45 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 41686d6564
@krlmlr No, they're not protected. An answer that has been awarded a bounty could still be deleted and the author would still lose the rep. I was just curious why you didn't award the bounty if you wanted to give it to that specific answer. Your reasoning makes sense though. — 41686d6564 57 secs ago
 
5:15 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Why don’t you edit the answer so it’s sufficiently useful and informative (e.g instructions on how to use that library, etc), and then flag for moderator attention to be un deleted? — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Alexei Levenkov
Make sure to actually read "How can I find my deleted posts?" section in linked duplicate. Most people can't find it without reminder, so hopefully it shows up for you at least after this comment :) — Alexei Levenkov 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
 
5:49 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Uni
@gnat that doesn't answer my question. I want to retract the suspension I got. I believe this is a mistake from the system and they shouldn't suspend you for commenting. The post above doesn't include Needs debugging detailsUni 27 secs ago
 
6:01 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Uni
@gnat that doesn't answer my question. I want to retract the suspension I got. I believe this is a mistake from the system and they shouldn't suspend you for commenting. The post above doesn't fit The question should be updated to include desired behavior, a specific problem or error, and the shortest code necessary to reproduce the problemUni 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Abdellah Ramadan
Thank you for the tips — Abdellah Ramadan 1 min ago
 
6:19 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
Regarding your edit: SE staff didn't return anything, you got 4 accept votes and if you really want to "audit" your reputation visit stackoverflow.com/reputationrene 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
In this case, you were the victim of a serial-upvoting case. It's just unfortunate, but serial-upvoting (voting based on the user, not the post's quality) is wrong. You yourself were not wrong. The upvoters were wrong and their behavior has been corrected by reverting the upvotes which you shouldn't get in the first place. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
If it's a question, vote to close as "needs details or clarity" (if you don't have enough rep, flag as "needs details or clarity"), if it's an answer, flag as VLQ (NAA is also not wrong). — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
Have a look at meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/297673/… instead, since the one you linked to is marked as a duplicate of that (or in other words; you were not looking at the canonical answer) — ivarni 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
Please read the question/answer I linked in full. — ivarni 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John
@ivarni Because I followed the advice in the answer there - I referred the poster to the Japanese-language version, and then my comment referring them to it got deleted. — John 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
Not really a bug - it's intended behaviour. The HTML for the links (when I view them) are of the form <a href="https://rads.stackoverflow.com/amzn/click/com/B0015T96‌​3C" rel="noreferrer">http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/glance/B00‌​15T963C</a>Wai Ha Lee 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
What makes you think I didn't — ivarni 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John
@ivarni Please read my question in full. — John 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John
@ivarni Are you referring to "Comments written in non-English should be flagged as no longer needed."? I would think that refers to comments on an otherwise English-language post, not a comment referring someone speaking another language to the correct site, right? — John 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John
"Comments written in non-English should be flagged as no longer needed." - I expect that this shouldn't apply to comments in the question poster's language telling them that they should use their local version of StackOverflow (e.g. the Japanese one), right? — John 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John
@JeanneDark That's what I normally do, but I also normally refer them to the version of StackOverflow suited to their language where it exists. I was just beaten to the close vote today because I'm a bit slow with Japanese. — John 40 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
22 hours is not a lot of time though. During spring 2020 it wasn't uncommon for a custom flag to be pending for 22 days. Note that custom flags never expire. — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by honk
@Scratte: That's my fault. I didn't read GalaxyCat105's (original) answer properly and just read "I rolled it back". I then went to the question and saw that it wasn't rolled back, so I simply did that. GalaxyCat105, sorry for the rejected edit! — honk 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaImTo
@TheMaster yes they are two separate APIs but they are very closely linked. Splitting them does make a sense. — DaImTo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
I do not see why the flagging policy wrt non-English comments should apply to an English-language post only. They are still most likely not understood by the majority of users. Maybe you could have tried posting it in English and Japanese (like: "[English text] ([text in Japanese]): [Link]")? — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaImTo
Sidenote: I have been thinking it might be best to do away with YouTube-api and just stick with YouTube-Data-api i cant come up with a reason to have both of those. — DaImTo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Expect the flag to be declined. You should not flag such things. Use a non-custom flag or simply downvote. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Amit Joshi
@RobertLongson: I understand that. But in some edge cases, we need to provide some context/info to moderator. That is why I used custom flag. First line of flag text says so. — Amit Joshi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
If you understand that, then don't do it. It will be declined every time with the reason that you should not misuse custom flags as an explanation mechanism for a non-custom flag. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John
@Jeanne Because it makes sense to respond to someone who perhaps only speaks the language they have posted in in that language. Sure, they might click the link and see it's in their language, but they might not know why they are sent there, etc. I agree that maybe I could have tried posting English and Japanese in the same comment. — John 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by rene
There never can be a too long. There is no Service Level Agreement, you can't force volunteers into spending their free labor when it suits you. — rene 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Shog9
Huh. I would've expected that to link to the MRE help topic. — Shog9 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Amit Joshi
@rene: No; I am not forcing anyone. I understand and respect the value of volunteers work. As I said in the question, the delay is just uncommon with my experience. If it is common in general, then this is new experience for me. — Amit Joshi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by KUMAR
@10 Rep what do you mean by image? — KUMAR 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
It makes sense to not respond to someone in a language other than English because it makes moderating the content much harder. — Jeanne Dark 33 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaImTo
That was my thought as well. stackoverflow.com/q/63930440/1841839DaImTo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@10Rep How do you know if wasn't self-made? :) And if it isn't, how do you know it's a ccby license and not an "All rights reserved"? — Scratte 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John
So I should never respond in a language other than English, even if they don't understand it? Alright. Can you add that as an answer and I'll accept it then. — John 1 min ago
 
7:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Nah, your edit was alright. Sadly the post-owner rejected it for reasons unknown. Do not make a big deal out of it. It happens. Good edits are rejected and bad edits are accepted. — yivi 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
no need in new answer because duplicate already has the needed guidance for cases like that: "Comments written in non-English should be flagged as no longer needed." — gnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
@Shog9 See my comment for a description on how to reach the MCVE (or MRE or whatever) site from the close banner. — Jeanne Dark 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
There's no "correct" way of indenting code and even though I personally prefer your indent style, the OP of the post apparently prefer theirs. — ivarni 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
You did not only add indentations. I'm not a javascript expert and don't know if that matters, but you removed several ;. — BDL 28 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
To be fair it looks like the edit wasn't only indentation. There are a few ; added. Though I'm sure some users up/down vote based on their perceived readability. — Scratte 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@BDL You mean "added", right? :) — Scratte 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
None of those semicolons do anything other than look pretty as far as the javascript interpreter is concerned. That's also a matter of personal preference. I didn't notice those. — ivarni 53 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by sirzento
@ivarni You are right, but the question to this answer is also from the same person and there he did use the same indent and also semicolons. But I guess he just dont like to see his post changed :) — sirzento 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Antti Haapala
@Steve using gold hammer shortens the window in which FGITWs might have a chance of answering the question. — Antti Haapala 34 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Scratte For what it's worth, it doesn't seem self-made, but the image seems to come from a free-to-use site. I think it's fine without attribution, but then again, I'm just monkey with a keyboard. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by ivarni
@sirzento Some people are just wierd like that :) — ivarni 11 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
hope your retirement eventually turns into sabbatical :) — gnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by KUMAR
@gnat Sir shall i use 100 K instead of 1 Lakh? — KUMAR 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@KUMAR I thought that the use of 1 Lakh was intentional, to add a localized mannerism into the congratulation. I do not think you need to change it. The addition of the link is good for those not familiarized with the term. — yivi 1 min ago
 
8:31 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Rounin
Re: "do not understand it as well as the people answering" - this is why, unless Stack Overflow is openly seeking to be an elitist site, dupes in such situations don't work very well. The dupe system as it exists fails to provide a bridge between where the OP is (in terms of understanding) and how they might cross the learning-gap between there and the answers to another question which, from their perspective, doesn't appear to bear much relation to what they are asking. — Rounin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Cerbrus
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BSMP
The FAQ does state that we shouldn't be making edits to code that change conventions. I'd avoid changes that are style preferences. — BSMP 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
This worked just fine before SO changed the wording of all close reasons just for the heck of it, a year back or so. — Lundin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the closer as duplicate
@Steve What John Montgomery and Antti Haapala said resonate with me. They still need to work with the duplicate to solve their own problem, and there are mechanisms in place to stop users from persistently posting poor quality questions. As for FGITWs, delete votes can be employed for very bad (or very common) duplicate questions. — E_net4 the closer as duplicate 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaImTo
@Lundin i think the wording was probably changed to be kinder and less accusational, but your probably right. — DaImTo 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Lundin
@DaImTo It's not very kind to close someone's question without telling them why, or how to improve it... — Lundin 52 secs ago
 
8:59 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CHEEKATLAPRADEEP-MSFT
@TheMaster updated the question with the tag description. Which says the same. — CHEEKATLAPRADEEP-MSFT 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Robert Longson
Unfortunately as a group we're really bad at deciding whether a question is on-topic elsewhere and given a chance we try to migrate absolute rubbish. Options are limited to prevent us making a mess. Just close/flag the question as off-topic if it's off topic here. The OP can always ask it somewhere else if it's closed here. — Robert Longson 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
Unless the question is pretty safely on-topic there and already has answers worth preserving, migration is not really necessary. The question could also be deleted here and re-asked over there (after having a look at their help center articles). — Jeanne Dark 51 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by KUMAR
@yivi ok sir thanks. — KUMAR 58 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Votes are anonymous, Kumar. No idea who downvoted it. I imagine someone didn't find the answer added enough value. Or they didn't like the picture. Or who knows what. Can't tell you without reading minds, which I can't because I'm just a humble monkey. — yivi 50 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by KUMAR
@yivi can pictures are not acceptable in question & answer? — KUMAR just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Some are. Some aren't. I have not voted this answer, and I have no clue why anyone would vote in any way. Thanks. Bye. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
Another issue is that it is almost impossible to identify new users, only new accounts:( — Martin James 55 secs ago
 
9:43 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
The current state of your question looks to me as if the code example could still be reduced a bit, but I'm not a Javascript expert, so I may be wrong. Please remember that the only thing we need and also want is a stackoverflow.com/help/minimal-reproducible-example. — Trilarion 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by chrylis -cautiouslyoptimistic-
@DaImTo I have my suspicions about the programming experience of the people who decided the wording needed changing and wrote the replacement. — chrylis -cautiouslyoptimistic- 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by mkrieger1
I am also not sure if this is supposed to mean "details of the debugging that has been done so far" or "details that can be used for debugging". — mkrieger1 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by jay.sf
Details or clarity, Stack Overflow guidelines, focused are also linked to the same closed question help page, the meaning of those reasons is explained though, whereas "debugging details" are not and should probably be included. However "Edit the question to include desired behavior" below directly links to an explanation that an MRE is needed. — jay.sf 1 min ago
 
10:17 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
If a user, ESL or no, does not understand 'debugging details', they cannot program computers and should seek to learn more basics of software development before posting their questions on SO:( Why are so many teachers/TA/profs failing their students by not teaching basics before setting assignments, (or, in the case of uni, directing students to read up on software development, esp. testing/debugging), and pointing them at SO? — Martin James 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
Given different end points, I think youtube-analytics-api should be split up. Regardless, I agree with best to do away with YouTube-api and just stick with YouTube-Data-apiTheMaster 26 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@MartinJames I'm not sure it's the responsibility of a university to teach how to debug code, no more than it's the responsibility of the university to teach their student how to proofread their reports. Lower level education is a different matter though. I was never "taught" to do it myself, but I also jumped right in at university. — Scratte 45 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by TheMaster
@CHEEKATLAPRADEEP-MSFT Need Stats- as in how many questions were tagged in each tag and what harm does the split do? You should be willing to fight tooth and nail and show that it is indeed bad and causes actual harm. 1. Stats, 2. Subject matter experts quotes/support from other users of the tag(in the form of answers) will help a long way(Consider inviting them). If you're satisfied with the final format, ping the moderator Bhargav to consider removing status-declined and to consider the synonym request. — TheMaster 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@Scratte ' I'm not sure it's the responsibility of a university to teach how to debug code', neither am I, but the students should be at least aware of design/code/test/debug, so that they can look up those terms, before they are let loose on 'Hello World':) — Martin James 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gino Mempin
I posted something related to this a while back: Put a direct link to the MCVE help page on the closure notice for “needs debugging details”. Linking to the "Why are some questions closed?" page really should not be the 1st thing the OP reads for this type of closure. It isn't also convenient to make them jump through several links to find the MCVE page. — Gino Mempin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by MisterMiyagi
@MartinJames Assignments are a critical component of teaching, including teaching how to debug. There is only so much that lectures and books can teach. — MisterMiyagi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Martin James
@MisterMiyagi yes, exactly! The students should be doing the assignments, and that includes an attempt at testing/debugging. That's when they really learn, rather than being taught -digging out for themselves why their linked-list segfaults/AV's. Profs should demand a diary of what the students did after their code compiled and before it worked, (or they gave up:) To me, a list of 'it did this, I tried that', would be much more impressive, and deserve a much higher mark, than working code that the student may, or may not, have aurthored:) — Martin James 1 min ago
 
11:29 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sinatr
@Steve, aren't such questions get downvoted and counted towards ban? Rewarded with duplicate, sure, but at cost. Though I agree, such questions should somehow give feedback of how to improve them and by providing the answer chances that following up questions will improve are low. — Sinatr 40 secs ago
 
11:41 AM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by psubsee2003
@Uni I would make it more clear in your post that is the intention. As written, it looks like you are asking why this happened and complaining about a suspension, more than you are acknowledging an error and asking to be unbanned. Edit the post to make it clear that it isn't a duplicate — psubsee2003 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by CHEEKATLAPRADEEP-MSFT
@BhargavRao Could you consider removing status-declined and to consider the synonym request — CHEEKATLAPRADEEP-MSFT 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Luuklag
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Uni
Thank you for your suggestion @psubsee2003. I will edit my question. — Uni 49 secs ago
 
12:11 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Trilarion
@Scratte "Maybe it's a deliberate removal that will separate the users that can find it and the users that can not." And then? Will users who cannot find it automatically unregistered and all their contributions deleted? This should have status-review, at least get some feedback about why such a link cannot be set. — Trilarion 58 secs ago
 
12:27 PM
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
This might be a possible duplicate: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/306916/…Tom 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Scratte
@Trilarion I don't think the removal was a good idea. I was being a little sarcastic about a possible reason for its removal..As in: "If users can't find it, we don't want their Questions anyway". I don't think their other contributions will be deleted, but if they don't know why their Questions are being closed, they're likely to make the same mistakes and get Question-banned fast. — Scratte 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
Whose feedback do you want? And why do you need feedback if you already know that the edit was rejected obviously falsely? — Ivar 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Deni Juric
@Ivar firstly, I would like the user, who rejected the edit, to explain me, why he did it. If it was rejected falsely, there should be an option to re-suggest the edit and give a hint to better look at it. — Deni Juric 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@AlexeiLevenkov My comment wasn't a fully-fledged answer (at least not in my point of view), hence just a comment :). — Tom 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Deni Juric
@gnat actually it doesn't. Because there is no button "Approve" when I click on the rejected edit information. I guess this can only be done for ones own posts? — Deni Juric 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
override can be done not only by owners but also by moderators. That is, if you can flag the post with message sufficiently explaining the issue for moderator to agree with your reasoning, they can do what you ask for — gnat 5 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Turamarth
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sir Asks a Lot
@Tom Thanks for the answer. I'll do my best on the Minimal, Reproducible Example; however in this case it is a .cshtml Razor page with a multiselect list and a db table display, both of which are part of the problem, so I don't think I can minimalize it any more. — Sir Asks a Lot 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Wai Ha Lee
I suspect the downvotes are because the answer doesn't add anything that an upvote to the question wouldn't. — Wai Ha Lee 8 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Deni Juric
@gnat so basically I should flag a post, on which I suggested an edit, which was rejected, and write something like "My edit suggestion was rejected falsely, please take a closer look on it"? Wouldn't it be much more comfortable to directly have the opportunity to re-suggest a specific edit which was rejected falsely? — Deni Juric 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Deni Juric
@Turamarth I agree on some part, but after reading the answers on the post of your link, I am really disappointed. So, an edit, which is fixing big grammar issues, can be rejected, because it doesn't change the content and the post is still understandable? So basically in this case, grammar is not important. And this is just one example. — Deni Juric 48 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steve
And so I can say that the little I have learned has always been thanks to my efforts. I just can't conceive that a person who shows no effort to try to solve their problems should be helped. — Steve 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steve
It is probably because of my education, but I find this type of questions very irritating. When I started learning programming (80s) I didn't have the luxury of asking about it on StackOverflow. Everything I learned was born from my desire to understand how things worked and from reading books imported from the States and strictly written in English. I still remember wondering if it was safe to send $30 to this Amazon company. Unfortunately the Italian translations were simply incomprehensible. — Steve 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Steve
@E_net4thecloserasduplicate that's seems a different and probably healthier mindset. — Steve 13 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by E_net4 the closer as duplicate
@Steve Pro tip: shift the mindset into assuming that you're not helping the OP, but anyone else who might stumble upon the question while it lives. It was never about the OP, but if that OP posted a question which was indexed, the least we can do is quickly place a sign post for whoever reaches it in the meantime. — E_net4 the closer as duplicate 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Deni Juric
@yivi I mean someone rejected an edit, which actually should have been approved, because the changes are valid. — Deni Juric 23 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by krlmlr
@yivi: Edited and flagged. — krlmlr 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
What do you mean “falsely” rejected? You mean “erroneously“? — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaImTo
Actually that question does not relate to my question which is a sugestion that This question needs debugging details. should be changed to This question is closed. to reflect the page that the link points to. — DaImTo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bill T&#252;r
Bare in mind that we also use our leisure time to review such edits — Bill Tür 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Deni Juric
@BillTür alright, then now you can tell me what is wrong with my question? — Deni Juric 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaImTo
I think a number of you may have misunderstood my point. Actually that question does not relate to my question which is a suggestion that This question needs debugging details. should be changed to This question is closed. to reflect the page that the link points to. — DaImTo 24 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Bill T&#252;r
@DeniJuric There's nothing wrong with your question. You just mentioned that editors use their free time to do edits and I just want to say that rewiewers do that too. — Bill Tür 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Deni Juric
@BillTür I agree with you on that point. But firstly, if it's so much work for an reviewer to review an edit, he just should stop reviewing them. No one is forcing them to review the edits. So there is no need for complaining. Secondly, if a reviewer doesn't have the knowledge on a topic of an edit, then he or she also shouldn't review it. That's my opinion. — Deni Juric 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Zoe
No, it isn't possible. — Zoe 15 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
flag having message "My edit suggestion was rejected falsely, please take a closer look on it" would be declined by a moderator with probability about 99.9999%. It is expected that flag message provides enough details to make moderator interested in closer checking of things. Flag message char limit is 500, this can suffice in most cases — gnat 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Why do you want to make the profile private? — Andrew T. 19 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Mullin
Thanks for the downvotes. Any suggestions on how to improve my question? Is this answered elsewhere? Is there a way to contact moderators directly? — Dan Mullin 22 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
sort of update, they are currently (finally) planning improvements to review queues and looking for feedback. Suggestion that commenting should pass audits instead of failing is submitted here: "Attempt to comment demonstrates that you pay attention while reviewing. Congratulations, you passed this audit." — gnat 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Deni Juric
@gnat I get that, this was just a short example. But still, before letting it come to such situations, the reviewers should do a better job to prevent them. In general, Stackoverflow does a really good job. But there really should be more focus on this part. And there are multiple possibilities how to solve this problem. — Deni Juric 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Patrice
"it's wrong" is.... not super helpful to judge whether you're wrong or not. What's likely happening in the downvotes is that users don't really believe this is wrong, as the system seems to be reliable. Maybe if you explain a bit more why you have your hunch? — Patrice 56 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Mullin
I understand that. I'm certain that this was in error though. I didn't get many votes yesterday and all the votes I received were from different users. I know because I keep track of my answers and if they are accepted. — Dan Mullin 43 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
there is already a special system called review-audits working automatically to catch and suspend reviewers who make too much mistakes. Without this system incorrect reviews would be much more frequent. If you notice particularly poor (non-audit) review you can also flag this for mod attention or complain in this chat and if moderator agrees with your evaluation they may warn or suspend the reviewer — gnat 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Joe W
It was likely the same person voting on all multiple answers which triggered the script — Joe W 54 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaImTo
Serial voting means that someone went around and up-voted a bunch of your questions over a short amount of time. When this is detected the system removes those votes. This is not something you did this is something done by another user. What is serial voting and how does it affect me?DaImTo 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user11909
Why the downvote? Is this not a legimate question? — user11909 just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ivar
@DanMullin I'm pretty confident that those corrected votes, aren't the ones you received yesterday. As a matter of fact, this answer you gave yesterday that got an upvote, still has its upvote. — Ivar 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
probably related to your activity on Aug 26 — Temani Afif 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Mullin
Is it at least possible there is a bug in their code? Nobody is perfect. — Dan Mullin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user11909
@AndrewT. I don't want others to see what I am doing. I simply want to use this website for Q&A. — user11909 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by DaImTo
@DanMullin there is no way for you to know which user upvoted you, voting is private. — DaImTo 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Mullin
I see. My brother went through my account and upvoted a bunch of my stuff that day. I'm guessing maybe the system didn't get all of them on that day? Is it possible it still hadn't fully corrected that until three weeks later? — Dan Mullin 37 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
Even if such a feature existed, mods would always know what you (and everyone) are doing to prevent abusive actions... — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Temani Afif
My brother went through my account and upvoted a bunch of my stuff that day --> hm hm, but you said am I just a victim of poorly coded AI when you clearly know what was done ... — Temani Afif 14 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Mullin
I yelled at him for it, but oh well. I'll go ahead and delete this as I think I have my answer now. — Dan Mullin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by user11909
Then my question was not clear. I want other users to see my activities. — user11909 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Deni Juric
@gnat well the system works if enough people complain about a reviewer. But I think the minority of the users do so. All in all I think the reviewers basically can do what they want. I also flagged some posts with "Needs details or clarity" for instance. My flag was declined, but the question was closed because of "This question needs to be more focused". And here I am really asking myself, how this can be... — Deni Juric 2 mins ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Mullin
The only reason I said that is because that happend on Aug 26th and was corrected the next day. I didn't expect it to happen in two iterations three weeks apart. — Dan Mullin 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by BDL
@DeniJuric In the end, it's a tradeoff: If you set the bar for wrong rejections very high, then less users are doing reviews. Then people complain on meta that the review queue is always full and that they can't suggest edits. If you set the bar too low, then a lot of editor time is wasted by wrong rejections. We have to find a middle ground where enough people do enough reviews but still don't make too many mistakes. — BDL 49 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Andrew T.
That's still problematic because this site is mainly moderated by the community since there are only a handful mods. Identifying spam, abuses, questionable edits/reviews/etc. will be more difficult for the community. — Andrew T. 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by gnat
system is designed for scale. Automatic system of audits works for every reviewer and it is capable of catching enough to make remaining "lucky" reviewers manually. As for manual moderator intervention, it doesn't require multiple complaints, one (sufficiently compelling) is enough because moderator (if they agree with flag) will do remaining legwork, they will closer check other reviews of troublesome user and pick appropriate measures to stop them from doing further harm — gnat 47 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
The site operates under a "default public" perspective. Most things are publicly viewable. Only (regular) votes are completely anonymous. I understand your point of view, but there is simply not such thing as a "private profile" on the network. — yivi 2 mins ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Jeanne Dark
You can flag them as no longer needed which is neutral. — Jeanne Dark 31 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Those comments might be useful, though. Flag them if you are certain they do not provide any value to the poster, or to other users arriving to the post. Comments with links to external resources are many times useful. — yivi 20 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by John
I've now found one experimental technology that fits the question, Swarm. Thanks for nothing guys, you people are truly useless. — John 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Dan Bron
What Jeanna said, but don’t expect much to come of it. Mods are already swamped with higher-priority demands. — Dan Bron 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Tom
@DanBron It can take some time until a flag is handled, even up to a few days, but they will eventually be handled. It was a long time ago (years ago) that a flag aged away. — Tom 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 87message.author.username7
btw, i am not talking about links to answers that respond exactly to the question but documentaries that talk about the subject of the question — 87message.author.username7 6 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Dan NLN flags are usually flagged in very reasonable times. Not only that, accumulation of NLN flags can make the resolution automatic. No need to demotivate the OP. — yivi 55 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 87message.author.username7
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Links to documentation are very often useful. I'd be careful in flagging those. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GalaxyCat105
"Does this answer your question?" comments are automatically posted on behalf of the user when the user flags as duplicate. — GalaxyCat105 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
Not exactly sure what are you laughing about, but ok. — yivi 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by yivi
@Galaxy comments are meant to be useful. Not useful comments can be deleted. — yivi just now
[ Boson ] New comment posted by GalaxyCat105
"Can I flag a comment that isn't insulting or anything but not useful and with no effort ?" - Are you talking about answers? Comments are not necessarily meant to be useful or have effort. — GalaxyCat105 42 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by 87message.author.username7
@GalaxyCat105 no i specifiedd lot of time i'm talking about comments — 87message.author.username7 59 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Sinatr
In discussions for retag I expect to see answers what are either report about completing job (e.g. here) or are against the proposal. Is the answer what just say "yes, I agree" useful? — Sinatr 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
"Yes" would be my answer to this. But that is a personal choice to make. I definitely don't hit close or downvote buttons immediately, especially when I see that the OP is busy working on the question or comments are being posted asking for details. I tend to hold off for about 15 minutes when I see a glimmer of hope that something could be salvaged. That's me, what I think or do should have absolutely no bearing on what other people think or do. Whether someone is new to the site or not has absolutely nothing to do with it though, there is no need to discriminate. — Gimby 10 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Ross Presser
For some additional context: my achieved solution was not negative numbers, but treating the two halves of the exchange separately: Instead of solving $1.98, solve $2.00 and then solve $0.02, and sum the coin count. Brute force this from $0 overpayment to double the bill amount and find the solution(s) with the fewest coins. — Ross Presser 1 min ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Deni Juric
My question was closed because it seems to be a duplicate, which it isn't, because the other questions are either several years old (and software improves quickly) or don't focus on the topic in my post. But ok... — Deni Juric 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by Gimby
I mean it's a good answer that I've seen come up dozens of times over the years, but this is not specific to Stack Overflow is it? — Gimby 1 min ago
 
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[ Boson ] New comment posted by Adriaan
@ivarni depends on the language. In Python indentation is syntax, i.e. there's no preference about it. — Adriaan 52 secs ago
[ Boson ] New comment posted by zcoop98
Also, in case you aren't in the loop regarding voting on Meta, it works a little differently here. — zcoop98 14 secs ago
 
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