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11:49 AM
So stuff:
1. You've got a whole room of people who will give advice on how to progress an RFC, or at the very least give you an indication of how well it's going to be received. You should use that rather than posting directly to internals without getting any feedback.
2. The RFC sounds like a blog post, which makes it unlikely people are going to take it seriously. Re-writing it to sound more authoritative would have lead to a slightly better outcome.
3. People commenting on RFCs should take time to respond, and also the RFC authors shouldn't reply straight away.

4. RFC authors definitely should avoid replying to people who only say they don't like the idea. There's nothing to be gained from that conversation.
5. For every RFC there's going to be people who don't like it. Getting angry because people don't like an RFC in general is a waste of time, but particularly for one that is about code style.
6. You owe Kalle an apology for switching to Twitter to berate him. Which you may have already done. For future, if you find yourself swearing at people over a programming idea, take a break from the computer.
7. "i am a magnet to this kinda stuff" I think that's because you get a bee in your bonnet about stuff and then try to fix it immediately rather than gathering feedback slowly. Really, you couldn't wait until morning for people to give you feedback about the RFC?
 
Wes
keep in mind that my first message was a simple joke
 
and simple jokes always go over so well on twitter.
 
Wes
but kalle kinda defended him so screaming at kalle on twitter was a bit intentional
although i am not actually angry at kalle
secondly, what changes would you suggest? when i write authoritatively you say that i am too formal, when i don't you say that i write like a blog post :B
thirdly, room 11 is always empty lately
also, waiting for feedback always leads me to inconclusive outcome
i asked dozens of people about splat in array literal syntax, nobody could agree
then some random dude wrote an rfc...... with my help..... and got it passed in 2 weeks
> My opinion on the matter is that what's actually annoying is not having to write the variable names, but the syntax with which the imports are defined.
 
"PHP users often say " citation needed.
"My (updated) opinion on the matter is" - RFCs should avoid using 'I', or opinion.
But it's too late for this RFC.
 
Wes
there's no way to improve this. it is just my opinion
it's sunday people didn't read it yet
 
12:01 PM
anyway - that's my thoughts. laters.
 
Wes
thanks. laters
 

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