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5:56 AM
@samcarter Did they fire him?
 
 
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8:18 AM
@CarLaTeX one of my fav replies: "It is a nice/great question, I will get back to you in a later ;)"
 
 
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9:21 AM
@CarLaTeX I don't think we know, but the general consensus seems to be that the "suddenly" in twitter.com/shog9/status/1216752358933184512 speaks for this theory
 
9:36 AM
@CarLaTeX related discussion on discordapp.com/channels/628507458452586497/628507458910027777 (sorry, I don't know how to link to a specific message, but look for the message from "Chief" at 20:20 yesterday)
 
 
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2:35 PM
in TeX, LaTeX and Friends on The Stack Exchange Network Chat, 24 mins ago, by Enthusiastic Engineer
@Skillmon wow... the op should have won a gold badge :))
 
@samcarter lol
 
@Skillmon I still suspect they have some internal contest about the post with the most votes but forgot to specify if that it should be upvotes :)
 
Compile your file with XeLaTeX on Overleaf. — ferahfeza 2 hours ago
@marmot ^^^^, oh dear.
 
user11685757
2:55 PM
@Skillmon minus times minus is plus, maybe this is the underlying reasoning. (I think we should not use this chat to criticize others who do not even see that they get criticized, i.e. have no chance to clarify what they mean.)
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user11685757
5:08 PM
@samcarter Yup. Those who understand the internet are also very good in propagating their opinion. Scary. (I am not saying that I disbelieve the statements made there but to me it seems to be a bit over the top. Of course, that does not mean I agree with the actions of SO.)
 
6:06 PM
@marmot I just really really really hope twitter.com/tvanfosson/status/1216767664372187137 is not true. That would be a whole new level of bad.
 
user11685757
@samcarter Well, yes. However, this is how companies in the US work. They are allowed to lay off employees. It would be great if others who got unfairly fired got similar attention. What bothers me is that there is a group of influencers who draw all the attention to their case.
 
@CarLaTeX the real question is, why does one want to waste valuable screen real estate on something only required once every hour (tex.stackexchange.com/questions/524265/…)?
 
user11685757
6:33 PM
@Skillmon Are you a windows user? I have 16 screens.
 
@marmot I have 10 by default. And I don't like to waste screen space to a file list when my priority is on content and its looks.
 
user11685757
@Skillmon Oh no. I use separate screens for the editor and the viewer.
 
@marmot Most of the time I like to see the results and sources concurrently, if I don't I can always toggle full screen for either of the two with Super+m
 
user11685757
@Skillmon I like to have one thing on the screen that I focus on.
 
@Skillmon I don't know, I don't even show it, but it seems important to the OP :)
 
6:49 PM
@CarLaTeX yes indeed.
 
 
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7:55 PM
@marmot That SO fires their people is sad enough, but then going off to twitter and bragging about it? That's a new low point, even for them...
 
user11685757
@samcarter Well, yes, but I am a bit surprised how much attention this gets.
 
@Skillmon This might be one of the side effects that the current generation of operating systems tries very hard to hide the filesystem from their users. Users seem no longer be considered competent enough to organise their files on their own, but applications/libraries/etc try to dictate where files are and users only find them though such applications and have no idea where they are located on their device. On mobile systems this is even worse....
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@samcarter on mobile systems this is annoying as ...
 
user11685757
8:14 PM
@samcarter This spirit is my greatest objection towards overleaf, which also seems (in my opinion) to hide from the user what LaTeX really does and is as much as possible. While this may indeed help you when you just use LaTeX once, on the long run you will have to pay a high prize.
 
8:35 PM
@marmot agreed. First thing I always did when debugging the documents of users was to download them and compile them offline to see what happens.
 
8:46 PM
@marmot The community is just on the edge. Everything has the potential to cause such drama now
@Skillmon totally agreed! I hate them for trying to tell me what to do with my files...
@marmot True! I'm grumbling for ages about them hiding the log file so well.
 
 
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user11685757
9:53 PM
@samcarter Yes. It is just ... imagine someone whose spouse was on the plane that was downed in Iran was reading these posts. I feel we should reserve the dramatic descriptions to these events.
 

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