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4:09 AM
@samcarter I think you were a bit mistaken
@marmot is tallmarmot, not Marmot or marmot :)
 
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@samcarter @JouleV The notifications worked, thanks!
 
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@samcarter But now if I say git pull the subfolder BezierBoundingBox does not get added under the localgit which we forked. How can one get these changes in the file system?
 
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6:20 AM
@samcarter OK, ` git pull origin master` works. Arghhhh. Why does this force one to remember all these keys.
 
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6:36 AM
That's all too complicated to me. Now I have aux and whatever files in that I am unable to remove. That's really crazy.
 
8:28 AM
@JouleV Yeah, I noticed when submitting the PR, at which point it was too late to change the commit message, but I guess Henri knew who I was talking about
@marmot Which reminds me: if you want you could probably get "marmot" as user name. github has this policy that if a user has no activities in the last n years, the user name can be made available again, one just has to contact the support. And looking at the profile of marmot, the user joined in 2009 and never had an activity. (this is how I switched from samcarter8 to samcarter a couple of years ago)
 
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@samcarter You cannot penalize a marmot for hibernating 10 years. ;-)
 
@marmot :) good point
 
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@samcarter It is not inconceivable that I created the user and forgot about it.... ;-)
 
@marmot I can only remember maybe 4 git commands, everything more complicate I do with an application (SourceTree in my case)
@marmot I have a file .gitignore_global in my home folder which prevents .aux files and similar from being added to git.
# Compiled source #
###################
*.so
*.d
*.exe
*.o

# Packages #
############
# it's better to unpack these files and commit the raw source
# git has its own built in compression methods
*.7z
*.dmg
*.gz
*.iso
*.jar
*.rar
*.tar
*.zip

# Logs and databases #
######################
*.log
*.sql
*.sqlite
*.txt

# OS generated files #
######################
.DS_Store
.DS_Store?
._*
.Spotlight-V100
.Trashes
Icon?
ehthumbs.db
Thumbs.db

# LaTeX stuff #
###############
*.pdf
*.aux
*.nav
*.out
*.snm
@marmot If you already have them in git, you can remove them again with git rm duck.aux
 
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@samcarter Yes, after some googling I also found that. Is there a manual for impatient beings somewhere?
 
8:40 AM
@marmot I'll sent you something by email
 
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@samcarter Thanks! I already added the ignore. Now I am fighting against spurious spaces. The library I added to the repository works ... sometimes.
 
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It seems like \pgfmathsetlengthmacro does not quite do what it should (it seems to add spaces).
 
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But the results are good IMHO. red=original tikz, black=with bbox library
 
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@marmot This looks great! How do you visualize the handles of the curves?
 
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8:53 AM
What handles? It is just:
\foreach \X in {1,...,100}
{\begin{tikzpicture}
\pgfmathsetmacro{\rnda}{360*rnd}
\pgfmathsetmacro{\rndb}{360*rnd}
\pgfmathsetmacro{\rndc}{360*rnd}
\pgfmathsetmacro{\rndd}{3*rnd}
\pgfmathsetmacro{\rnde}{3*rnd}
\pgfmathsetmacro{\rndf}{3*rnd}
\begin{scope}[local bounding box=without,red]
\draw (0,0) .. controls (\rnda:\rndd) and (\rndb:\rndd) .. (\rndc:\rndf);
\draw[overlay] (0,0) circle[radius=1pt] (\rnda:\rndd) circle[radius=1pt]
(\rndb:\rndd) circle[radius=1pt]
(\rndc:\rndf) circle[radius=1pt]
 
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I mark the control points with circles (mainly to see what is going wrong in the rare cases in which it does not yet work).
 
@marmot I see
I'm also drawing them with circles when making sure that the tikzlings are symmetric, so I was wondering if you have some marmot magic to do that :)
 
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@samcarter There is the show path construction decoration which you can use to always show the control points.
 
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Henri is right that the compilation is not instantaneous but given the answers to tex.stackexchange.com/q/43621/121799 it may still be worthwhile. (Also I am wondering if there is a way to implement a quick quadratic equation solver.)
 
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@samcarter How do you find other users on GitHub? I mean, how did you find out that (a) a user marmot exists and (b) hasn't been to active?
 
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9:09 AM
Oh, I found it.
 
9:21 AM
@marmot By "guessing" the url
@marmot I'm pretty sure there is a way to implement about everything, the better question is how to implement :)
@marmot There is still the chance that the github marmot user is active in some private projects
 
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@samcarter Yes, but it turns out that it is straightforward to simplify it very much by just a little bit of thinking... ;-)
 
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So far I found the critical t values (curve parameters) and plugged them back in the cubic equation. That's stupid. One can just ask Mathematica to do that and simplify things. Much better.
 
10:59 AM
@JouleV Out of curiosity: how did you make the github dashboard to have a black background? Is there some setting or does one need some user userscript magic?
@marmot I hope this will be fast enough for Henri to add it as default into pgf! This would make life with Bézier curves much easier!
@CarLaTeX @UlrikeFischer Could one of you be so kind to tell tex.stackexchange.com/questions/393659/… to better ask a new question instead of waiting for a reply from me?
 
@samcarter done.
 
11:18 AM
@UlrikeFischer Thank you!
 
@samcarter we just got some cheese ;-)
 
@UlrikeFischer Guten Appetit!
Interesting choice of case study topic: arxiv.org/abs/1405.3559 (@marmot)
 
11:54 AM
@samcarter I use this and it is quite good.
Yes, some userscript magic is needed here :)
 
@JouleV Thanks a lot for the link!
 
@samcarter There are many more. Just find one for yourself :)
I mainly work go online at night so I really need a dark mode
Sadly GitHub, like Stack Overflow, doesn't have a dark theme
 
12:14 PM
@JouleV For stackoverflow there is meta.stackoverflow.com/a/386152/2777074
 
12:59 PM
@samcarter Thanks for the link! Actually I have already been using one for Stack Overflow :)
 
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1:22 PM
@samcarter And completely wrong. It is very easy to predict the presence of marmot burrows. The probability is inversely proportional to the distance to the next honey liquor distributor. ;-)
 
1:39 PM
@JouleV :)
@marmot Does this mean that there is a \huge marmot cave below all the good honey liquor shops?
 
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@samcarter Yes.
 
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The problem is only that there is no "good honey liquor shop".
 
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@samcarter google maps found ^^^ . I can confirm that there are marmots nearby.
 
2:27 PM
@marmot I'm wondering if this can used to build new accelerators. Can one just put a line of honey liquor bottles on the ground above and the marmots will be so nice and dig a tunnel below the bottles?
 
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@samcarter It would be cruel to run an accelerator through marmot burrows. Maybe the moles can help?
 
@marmot Of course one would provide more honey liquor at a different location so all marmots would have left before the accelerator is switched on
 
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@samcarter It think a fair sharing of the work would be that the moles dig the tunnel and the marmots hibernate and drink honey liquor. ;-)
 
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@samcarter Your recipes really help, I added a file git4marmots.txt to my repository, other marmots may also benefit. ;-)
 
2:51 PM
@marmot :) sounds very fair!
 
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@samcarter Yes. Moles are simply not good at hibernating.
 
@marmot Great to hear! btw I love the commit messages in marmot language: github.com/tallmarmot/pgf/commit/… :)
 
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@samcarter Yes, LaTeX is great but it does not yet know \hibernate so for the time being we need to use \relax. (Damn, I did not want to commit the aux and log files.... :-(
 
@marmot One could add `\newcommand{\hibernate}{\pause[100000]} to beamer :)
 
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3:15 PM
@samcarter Is \pause[1000000] not a bit short? I always thought a year was pi*10^7 seconds.
 
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So it should be \pause[200000000]
 
@marmot In almost all cases I would consider a talk with one overlay per second bad style :)
 
 
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4:31 PM
@samcarter Well, sometimes it is good to make it over fast.
 
5:39 PM
@samcarter the relative is most pleased -- and some of the pictures of the videos are wrong.
 
5:53 PM
@samcarter for the history block there are also these chat.stackexchange.com/transcript/message/45701011#45701011
 

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