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6:09 AM
Good Morning Guys..!!
Happy New Year to all :)
 
Good Morning Guys
Happy new year Room Number:19132 :P
 
new year Baby-Kun
 
new year SwordsMan-sama
 
posted on January 01, 2015

New Cyanide and Happiness Comic

 
Yay! Episode 8 has been released
 
7:04 AM
anyone worked with genymotion ?
 
@SweetWisherシ IZZUE?
 
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let me restart the system once
Bingoo..... launched :)
this too done :P Sryyyy
 
@SweetWisherシ I launch virtual box first, then genymotion and then simulator to run a simulator without error
still it shows me the port error sometimes
and I have to restart simulator
 
@DroidDev @SweetWisherシ I have never heard of Genymotion, but after @SweetWisherシ puts a question, I searched and found that I should also start using that. But i have a doubt is it best to use or there is any other emulators also available which are fast and reliable ??
 
7:16 AM
@rekire lol You came in chat just to get that hat ? xD
 
@MukeshRana It is damn slow on windows
 
@MukeshRana the best emulator as far as I knw
@DroidDev switch to ubuntu :P
 
lol you both are contradictory :P
 
hahahaha
 
FUCK GENYMOTION
 
7:18 AM
lol
 
nw u have clear vote fr GM :P
 
so I think i should leave the idea :(
 
@SweetWisherシ android's simulator works good on ubuntu, you don't need genymotion on that
 
Note for everyone: try to use always built-in support instead of third party
 
7:20 AM
just wanna learn.. that's it :) And without having hands on that, we can't judge it :)
itz ur wish Mukesh
 
the one you can hack is the one that's best
cuz, it'll work according to you
 
Yips :)
 
so far android studio is concerned, i think there emulator is good, what you say @TheLittleNaruto
 
Ditto! @muk
 
@SweetWisherシ yeah, i know but @DroidDev said not to use it on windows so why to take a chance :P
 
7:22 AM
i never even wrk with emulator., i use device only. but sometimes we do need specific device with specific config .. that's when i go for this
 
@TheLittleNaruto so I have to install Android studio first ;)
 
@MukeshRana Still on Eclipse ?
 
lolzzz
 
@SweetWisherシ me too never used emulator and i Only test on one phone considering it will work on all :P so confident i am ;)
@TheLittleNaruto yes :(
i tried installing but it causes me problem so I revert back to eclipse
 
RIP Swordsman-sama @muk
 
7:24 AM
HAPPY NEW YEAR 2015
 
lol but i will try fresh project on android studio
and i think i have to reinstall my windows as well
 
When you'll install it, let me know, I'll guide you
 
and @TheLittleNaruto where you were when i was posting questions about android studio installation :P
 
Seriously ?
I dint know that
 
happy new year @devil
 
7:25 AM
@MukeshRana Android studio is not stable(yet). I tried to port to it when it was introduced. Won't work if a team is working and project consists many dependencies
 
lol..
 
@devil Happy new year :)
 
Thanks @MukeshRana n @TheLittleNaruto
 
@DroidDev I'll have to disagree with you. As @rekire says, the thing is you need to learn gradle first before starting AS
 
@DroidDev hmmm.. but i think problem is with windows at that time and didn't get enough time yet to reinstall it
 
7:27 AM
@TheLittleNaruto yes, I know how to build gradle based projects
 
@DroidDev if you know then you should know how easy it comes when it is the point of development with gradle
 
In-fact, I find maven difficult than gradle
 
@TheLittleNaruto as I already said, problem is with IDE, I never said its the problem with gradle, plus, when you set your dependencies for same project on one machine and push it to git. On other machine, you pull same code or clone it, you'll mostly need to relocate whole dependency projects and re-reference them. Please note, I am saying, that's the case, with a big project, with many dependencies.
 
my lord when will i get to know about this gradle :(
 
7:30 AM
I have been working with AS for 3-4 months, I never touched even the launcher of Eclipse since when I got started with it.
@DroidDev I dont know if you have experienced with many dependencies already or just saying on your own
 
lol
 
@TheLittleNaruto @DroidDev do you have any idea about parcelable and serializable??
 
Of course
 
will you please elaborate a little what actually the difference between two??
 
7:35 AM
parceable is good to go with GSON libs
For example:
 
yes
 
Suppose you have an Entity class, name it User and it has two variables
name and number
 
okay
 
and you're having a json response which will give you list of users with its name and number
You'll simply extends Parceable in your entity class
 
what next
okay
 
7:38 AM
and pass annotation for each variable
like this:
class User{
@SerializedName("name")
String name;

@SerializedName("number")
String number;


}
the serialized names are nothing but the name in your json response
 
okay next
yeah i know
 
@TheLittleNaruto I was talking about this app. It has nearly 10 dependencies, because of all the logging and data collection plus social media sharing and all that location things. We are on the edge of touching 65K method limit on it and trust me, I have worked with many dependencies. My current project has so many, that I'll have to consider making multiple dex files for it on maven, if I need even one more jar to put in it.
 
@TheLittleNaruto that's all ??
 
All that logging is to make app stable, because of extensive multi-threading and use of observer pattern in it
 
So basically the thing is you're making easy to parse response @muk yOu're parsing it as an object and it'll automatically get the desired data you specified in your entity
 
7:44 AM
@TheLittleNaruto lol, I haven't find any use of parcelable here except we extended the parecelable class
so you actually mean to say if i have to parse data using parcelable i have to just extends parcelable class and all done
 
@MukeshRana Yes there is few more thing like you'll have to create CREATOR and writeToParceal and read
It's little pain to do all these stuffs
But believe the process is faster
 
now comes the real content, am actually interested in these things cretor and writeToParcell
can you provide me a sample where json response is parsed using gson with parcelable
 
I'll have to search if any is available, But I have implemented in my current project.
 
can i expect from you to share with me that code ??
 
lol
I'll make a simple demo for you
 
7:51 AM
okay.. that will be appreciated.. so by what time you will be prepared with that??
 
you're being like "I cant wait anymore" boy! xD
 
@MukeshRana are you talking about the use of serializable, sorry I missed some of previous messages
 
lol yeah i need it asap !!
 
For me no pastie site is working.
 
@DroidDev yeah serializable and parcelable
 
7:54 AM
I use it in pojo class, Like if I want to pass the whole object of class through intent to another class
 
@TheLittleNaruto don't worry you can mail me :P
 
@MukeshRana for example here is a pojo class which implements serializable
it just serializes everything in object of class and when you get it on other end
it de-serialize it(I think)
 
@DroidDev Actually i have heard parcelable is approx 10 times faster than serializable, so i was wondering how to use parcelable insted
i have worked with serializable though
 
@MukeshRana lol, I've never worked with parcelable. Because of additional headache...I don't know about speed though...
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@DroidDev this speed factor actually grabed my attention :P
 
7:57 AM
pastie is one of them too
@MukeshRana well...I never noticed a glitch even using serializable. Well, most of devices have octa core processors and if you are not measuring the speed in terms of micro or nano seconds, I don't think you'll be able to notice much difference. Still, I'd also like to see a demo, if there is one
@TheLittleNaruto use paste.ofcode.org
and please add it to room topic too
 
@MukeshRana see, those are milliseconds, plus implementing Parcelable is not free. There is a significant amount of boilerplate code and it makes the classes harder to read and maintain. A reason why I dropped it. I don't want a simple pojo class having so much of complexity when I have a fast processor working for me
Of-course, there are things that you can't serialize
 
lol you can't expect fast processor from others
 
@DroidDev Thanks
 
@TheLittleNaruto thanks for that
:)
 
8:03 AM
lol np
 
@TheLittleNaruto I have a doubt
 
when will these two methods creator and writeToParcel come into play
 
aren't we serializing things in that too @SerializedName("name")
 
@DroidDev i don't think that have much use, we can simply remove them too
 
8:07 AM
I need to read more about the classes used in it to consider really using it
 
As you can see Creator interface is defined as static final, so as soon as you define the class, it'll call first and will generate an instant of parceable class
 
Actually that comes into play when you have used different keys for your model class than you json response
@DroidDev
 
Check the overridden function createFromParcel(Parcel parcel)
 
@MukeshRana I don't know why it matters, you should be able to still call methods and assign values. Plus, I've never used Gson either, I like parsing json directly
@TheLittleNaruto createFromParcel(Parcel parcel) where, I don't find it in your code. Are you talking about documentation?
 
@DroidDev ctrl+F and find
 
8:10 AM
Okay.. and when we have to send data via intent we should use parcelableExtra @TheLittleNaruto
 
gson is good @DroidDev
just one line of code
@TheLittleNaruto one last question, if i don't need to send data via intent, then there is no need to extend either seriazable or parcelable??
 
@MukeshRana ya, I think I'll consider it now
 
@DroidDev hmmm.. :)
okay guys lunch time
and @TheLittleNaruto waiting for that last question answer
 
@MukeshRana Yes, You dont want to do unnecessary overhead, Also, It's not about intent only, it's about how you perfectly follow object oriented term
 
8:13 AM
okay @TheLittleNaruto thanks for the sample
 
I am sorry, I am bad at describing thing T_T
But I follow best things xD
 
lol.. NP.. and yeah i too like to follow best things and i'll be gonna have discussions regarding this with my android devs as well
 
@DroidDev checking now...
 
@TheLittleNaruto ok, the app in itself doesn't look like much though. But, it has many dependencies. I mean, facebook sdk, twitter jar, flurry, bugsnag, bosch sdk etc etc....
 
@DroidDev A radio App broadcasting different channels ?
 
8:24 AM
@TheLittleNaruto nope. It downloads the news(audio stream) from web api
 
@TheLittleNaruto Hello
 
@TheLittleNaruto If you are interested, its audio player is written in service class, following most of this model.
 
@KetanAhir Hi Bro
@DroidDev I had developed a radio broacast app in my last company (in Mohali)
 
@TheLittleNaruto link please...
 
@DroidDev I am not sure if they have uploaded yet
let me check
 
8:31 AM
@TheLittleNaruto that's sad...
 
Because I left the company due to some issue
I found it -> Here @DroidDev
 
@TheLittleNaruto lemme see
 
The work was under process while I left the company. I might be not able to navigate you :P
 
@TheLittleNaruto the description don't tell much about it either....
 
@TheLittleNaruto my app was working fine since 1 month..now suddenly getting fatal signal 11 sigsegv at 0x0000000c code 1
 
8:35 AM
@DroidDev You would be able to play many radio stations of US, and can like and dislike the currently play song
 
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CommonsWareIf you have written (or are using) a plugin that in turn uses native C/C++ code through the NDK, this may indicate a bug in that native code. Otherwise, this is a bug in the firmware of the device or emulator you are testing upon. If you can reproduce this in an emulator, on a Nexus device with...

 
Bookmark favourite and so on...
 
@TheLittleNaruto hmm...so it only works in US I take it...Does it catch radio frequency of various radio companies and play the audio?
 
@DroidDev Let me download it first. Also I said, you can stream radio channels of US
@DroidDev Actually Variaous Channel companies has provided there online streaming url.
 
@TheLittleNaruto hmm...cool app then. Great concept of combining every company in one app.
 
8:40 AM
@DroidDev RadioLoyalty Inc. is very popular in US just like gaana.com in India.
 
@TheLittleNaruto advertisement bro advertisement. How do you think twitter started earning?
 
@DroidDev Not only advertisement. They have implemented more thing to earn. Like every channel wants to know how much time a user spends on their channel. It's kinda survey. And they are paying for it to RadioLoyalty Inc. It happens internally, the user wont have to bother about it.
The App itself keeps track of it and update on the server
 
@TheLittleNaruto ya, that's pretty much of logging in itself. With that many downloads, its great data dump which is very very valuable to radio companies of-course
 
Exactly!
 
I always keep think, that why these kind of idea don't occur to me...
Every step that I take, is another mistake
 
8:49 AM
Ideas can come, implementing that takes a lot of efforts
You'll have to be passionate
never back down and so on
Ah! Looks like they have fucked the app :|
Even I am not able to log in from facebook
 
yo guys
happy new year ^^
 
@TheLittleNaruto @DroidDev nice new hat, same pinch :3
@TheLittleNaruto Haven't seen rekire for a while.
 
9:07 AM
@berserk lol thanks and Happy new year as well :P
@berserk He is having 2 weeks vacation :)
 
oh ok
and thanks
 
@TheLittleNaruto @berserk hae you guys watched FSN?
 
FSN?
 
Fate Stay Night
 
No.
 
9:11 AM
why not?
 
Is it cool?
 
berserk-kun how can you not watch it?
yeah it is
 
kun?
I will download today.
 
it has just 25 episodes and it is :D
 
I am in search of good animes.
 
9:11 AM
I have started watching FSZ today
 
Story finished or new season coming?
I mean it isn't ongoing right?
 
FSN is over
FSZ manga is still going on
 
Oh.
 
but it has only two seasons in anime
 
hmm..
I will download.
 
9:15 AM
but, first watch FSN
 
Yea FSN.
Have u seen berserk?
anime
 
Must a jerk like you :P
 
lol
You are right tho xD
 
i knew it
 
But its kinda cool.
 
9:20 AM
I am too busy with FSZ for the time being
+ I have other animes to watch as well
Akame ga Kill
Tokyo Ghoul
Zankyou no Terror
So I will pass your advice :P
 
@ItachiUchiha xD
 
Sorry I had to star that xD @berserk
 
9:28 AM
But it don't mention my name
 
@TheLittleNaruto I don't worry much about implementation. Idea is difficult part for me
 
@berserk hehe, np people will read it
 
@berserk hehe, thanks
 
:)
 
9:32 AM
@DroidDev hehe got no word to say :D
I must say, you're a bad ass. @Ita
 
@TheLittleNaruto ??
 
Don't take it wrong. ^^
I was just reading the conversation between you and berserk :P
 
haha
 
 
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12:55 PM
@ItachiUchiha lol
 
 
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3:01 PM
My phone's screen size is 5.3 inch. I made my app and its looking great in my phone, I mean every icon and every component positioned in proper place. But I checked my app in my friend's mobile which's screen size is 4 inch. Its not fitted properly in 4 inch screen. I see some icons clash with another. Its overlapped,, why?
 

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