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2:17 PM
Hi
 
Howdie
 
So you are into Flutter?
 
I'm going to be soon - just realized there were chat rooms in slack. Saw the room sooo...here I am 8)
 
Great :)
 
Still seeing what the chat rooms are capable of
I'm going to need to produce a mobile app soon and Flutter is currently on my top list of choices
I wish it wasn't dart
 
2:19 PM
Why?
 
BUt
 
Why not dart
 
Well just another 'js' variation to mess with
It could be worse
I am encouraged that it looks like Flutter is Google's answer to making apps for Fucia (sp?)
Always have to worry about google dropping projects
Dart hasn't exactly lit the world on fire
I guess Dart is as good as anything else
Context switching between multiple languages is always a pain
I was impressed with how clean it worked with VSC
 
Also I can't understand the way google is releasing so many new technologies
 
yep
throwing stuff at the wall to see what sticks
I was in utter shock when Angular switched to typescript
thrilled but shocked
 
2:22 PM
First Kotlin for native. when the developers started with it they came up with flutter
 
Right - I've heard of Kotlin but hadn't really looked at it.
I'm knee deep in Angular so I sure hope they don't kill it 8)
 
But - this sort of thing is what makes me think Flutter is going to be where they go
unless of course
 
Google is also planning to expand the usage of flutter to desktop apps as well
 
Fuchsia dies
yes
That's what I meant by Fuchsia
had to look up the spelling lol
and then you have M$ working towards letting android apps run on the desktop via 'your phone'
so it's getting interesting
so it would be pretty cool to produce something in flutter that eventually lands on the google os & microsoft desktop
I am also encouraged by what I have read on third party integrations with flutter, i.e. it seems to work pretty easily. I have only played with it so far - I expect to deep dive it in the new few weeks.
 
2:27 PM
Btw the apk size increases with the use of flutter
 
yeah I had read that was one of the main downsides
I had found a page comparing flutter & Xamarain
Which was the other toolkit was looking at, since I'm a C# guy
but I dunno..it just feels...still not fully baked?
 
I wrote a hello world application a few days back. to my surprise the release apk size was 4.7 MB
 
Xamarin
oh wow
So the question is how much does it jump as you add more - I assume that must be a crap load of runtime
Maybe they can improve the tree shaking
Angular was the same way in 2
 
Because they ship skia engine and all with the application. which increase its apk size
 
? I have to look up Skia - not familar
Oh...very interesting
 
2:30 PM
I too need to look up a lot of things I am not familiar with. The blog posts I read are full of jargons
 
Yeah
so...hrm...4.7mb is basically the base apk then. I wonder how much it grows past that. I've done very little mobile work at this point so I don't know what a 'good' apk size is.
I haven't written an android app in 4 years
 
Oh same here I too am new to mobile app dev
I wanted to start with mobile development and stumbled upon flutter and found it interesting
 
I did enough Android Studio to not like it 8)
Flutter is mucho better/easier IMHO (so far) than android
it took me a few hours to get up and running with android just to get my head around it
 
You didn't like the ide?
 
Flutter..so much quicker and easier to first base - was that your experience?
It was just a lot of grunt work to get the basics going
I'm spoiled by Visual Studio
manifests and resources blah blah
so much xml
 
2:34 PM
so have you written any application with native android studio
 
one
that was my app 4 years ago
it wasn't very complex
we just needed a wrapper with some basic functions around a website
I was pretty happy with the way flutter works - sort of like angular...as you saw no doubt, the instance feedback in the emulator
instant
 
I am a web developer. Never developed a mobile application.
 
We'll have to compare notes as we go 8)
if you decide on flutter
 
yeah sure :D
 
I am pretty sure that's what I am going to do
I haven't found anything else that appeals to me so far
 
2:37 PM
so you too are a web developer?
 
little bit of everthing
I've evolved into a web developer in the last few years
I have several C# apps I maintain
I did a lot of winform dev over the years
asp.net
SQL Server
just left a job doing Ext/C#/SQL
now doing angular/C#/sql
and winforms lol
keeps it from being boring
I've been doing this a long time
 
I will try to read and post here about flutter.
 
I will as well
 
more often than not
 
I have enjoyed the chat - I have to get back to work 8) Take care!
 
2:50 PM
Cheers!
 

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