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03:02
@matt Thanks. I too think South Carolina is beautiful. :)
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05:29
how long will the industry take to migrate from node to deno ? :P
05:42
@Yash NaN
There was some buzz around deno but, from what I've seen, only before it's launch (well, when it was beta). It has petered off since then. Deno failed to capture and convert people. It's a hard task to pull off but seems Deno just failed It's try.
The reason people would stay with Node is the ecosystem and lots of support materials. Had Deno been compatible as a drop in replacement or offered anything more than Node does, it might have had better adoption rate. But seems overwhelmingly nobody found a reason to change to Deno.
Bun is now trying to be the next thing. It might have better success boasting much faster execution and extra functionality like bundling. Let's see how that goes. It probably won't dethrone Node but it might at least achieve some notable market share.
that and its name and icon im sure didnt help much either, im not sure i want to code with a runtime called deno, taken by position shifting the letters, puke, bun's got a stupid name and icon too, i think they have to come up with something a bit more serious than those names to be taken seriously
plus like VLAZ says there definitely needs to be compatibility with node, its just too big, npm has 4.5 million packages registered, then next closest in any language i think is python with about 500,000, off the top of my head
i have to admit though i havent got round to trying deno or bun yet lol
 
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06:54
@matt "its name and icon" and "needs to be compatibility with node" - keep in mind that Deno was literally created to replace Node. The name is a play of it no-de -> de-no. Created by one of the original developers of Node supposedly as a fresh take on the same thing but taking into account the parts of Node that need to be redesigned from experience.
yeah but the icon is terrible
Well, it didn't work. You barely hear anything about Deno nowadays. I've talked to a few people that tried it and they didn't have glowing recommendations. Not that it was bad, but not something really worth moving over. It also has its own issues. The dependency system being one of them.
oh its hideous
I don't even know what it's supposed to be. A snake? A sockpuppet?
ha true, i always thought it was a dinosaur, sockpuppet sounds best
06:58
A dinosaur might actually fit. A denosaur.
do you know what the issue with the dependency system is
is it that it just puts them all in a single directory one level deep that all modules share
so if two seperate packages require the same module they share it, then updating one breaks the other
07:58
It's name is an anagram to node xD
The icon looks more like a snake vs denosaur, imo
 
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22:15
i mean

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