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12:00 AM
Was gonna say, that's a bit dark for you
 
> i'm a bit gassy
is my goto irl when people ask how I'm feeling
 
@rlemon wgats buce us Relic is doing it
Relic is fucking awesome
 
@Loktar One of us has had a stroke, and I don't smell any toast.
 
wtf
 
lol
 
12:01 AM
wow yeah my fingers were not placed right it seems hahah
LMAO
 
"what's nice is"?
 
Whats bad ass is Relic is doing it
idk wtf I typed man
 
the fuck
 
I need to go smile in front of a mirror
although I do worry they'll make it moba like..
I really hope they don't do that. DoW3 was super meh, but all the homeworld games are great.
and Dow1
 
I fucking love how so many basic things WP gets wrong
 
12:10 AM
WP?
 
wordpress
 
oh
lol yes, it sucks as far as i have used it
i dont blame them though, it started as a simple blogging engine and expanded far beyond that. would be hard to manage that scope creep
 
there should be enough people working on it
at this point
 
12:39 AM
what's the difference between a queue and a circular queue?
 
I think the hint may be in the name.
 
so it's a treadmill.
 
clearly
 
isn't that just an infinite loop
what would be the point of a circular queue
 
12:55 AM
@Arrow, I'm going to go back to my old 'morn'. It's a lot more efficient
hence, morn
 
ok
 
@Arrow Performance. It's an implementation detail, not a behaviour.
 
morn
 
1:12 AM
@BenjaminGruenbaum I'm fine, been busy all day, thanks for saying hi, though.
 
Whew. Periodic table of countries is complete, including validation of lat-lon coordinates. Suck it regex.
@AaronHall hello hello!
 
1:23 AM
Hi!
 
morniing
 
As a non-managerial position, how do I bring up that one of my teammates is not completing his share of work?
He averages like 3/15 story points per sprint, and it's destroying our metrics
 
Have a chat with your lead?
 
That would be me ._.
 
Have you talked to them about it?
 
1:28 AM
Yeah, he said "ffs"
 
:/
 
I can bring it up to my PM, but that's really escalating it
 
Sounds like you're gonna have to play the asshole, and point out that if they can't find a way to meet expectations you'll be forced to escalate
 
I'm trying really hard to enable the guy, I made the team to retros, and he even said "yeah I'm definitely not completing my tickets" so I made efforts to groom tickets better, and told the team to take on less per sprint, and bring in new scope upon dedication completion
 
@SterlingArcher have you brought it up in a retro yet?
 
1:30 AM
@monners I want to exhaust all "good guy" options before going down that route.
 
oh I can't read
 
@phenomnomnominal last retro yeah, I told the team we had to fix our sprint velocity
 
Did you explicitly call him out?
 
I'd say that would be step one
It's awkward as fuck, but that's the point of a retro
 
1:31 AM
I try not to be all pointy finger mcgee
 
Is he actually underperforming, or biting off more than he can handle?
 
So don't just point the finger, present the data.
You need to figure out why he's not getting through the work
And unless you explicitly identify that he is the issue, you'll never get the right conclusion
 
@monners both -- for example, it took him literally a week to create a mongo backup, and install a new version of mongo (upgrade from 3.2.x to 3.4.x)
@phenomnomnominal I'm going to start compiling individual metrics, so that we can identify if the team is equally sharing the work
 
Are you all equal level?
Like is this person a junior?
> and install a new version of mongo (upgrade from 3.2.x to 3.4.x)
 
no, he's like 20 years experienced
 
1:34 AM
^ that sounds like something else is going on
 
I'm the least experienced on the team
 
Yeah, I know
And it's blocking me from deploying the app on the new production server :(
AND he's on PTO that isn't marked on his calendar
 
One thing you could try would be to do the same piece of work as him
That way you can say, this took me roughy x-days
 
I don't have that kind of time to spare :(
 
1:36 AM
And it took him y-days
Yeah fair
It's the same fail fast thing dude
 
fail fast thing?
 
It's your obligation to call it out asap
Like, the longer you let it go on the worse it will get
 
Yeah, I'm going to call it out to my PM. I need authoritative help on this one
 
Sounds like the right call
 
I wish I could show you the sprints and how easy his tickets are and how little has been done this milestone
 
1:38 AM
Like who knows dude, he might have other shit going on you don't know about
 
I just want to lead the team well, and enable all the guys to succeed
 
You go to the PM and he says "don't worry it's okay, here are the reasons"
 
@phenomnomnominal lol besides spending 30 minutes every hour at somebody's desk chatting it up
I hope there are reasons, but we need to see performance
 
Yeah I mean that's not a great look :P
 
If that's really a drastic escalation, I'd be inclined to pull him aside one-on-one before doing that. If all he's hearing is the team is behind, he might not be aware that he's a significant contributor to the problem.
 
1:39 AM
But yeah, call it out sooner
 
Good point. That's gonna suck tomorrow
 
Yeah @monners is right
but if you get a "ffs" again, then you don't have much choice
 
:points_up:
 
At least me and my UI bro crushed our tickets this sprint
 
Welcome to the "leading" part :|
 
1:40 AM
@phenomnomnominal oh that was a joke, monners said bring it up to the team lead, and I'm the team leader :P
I was the one who ffs'd
 
ohhhh
:D
"Have you talked to them about it?"
"Yeah, he said "ffs""
I read it like that
 
Seemed like a pretty strong reaction haha
I have such a gnarly bug to deal with
 
I say team leader, because I do all the coordination, and people come to me for everything (and me to them). But in reality we're all equals and the PM has supreme authority
 
So thanks for the distraction :D
 
1:42 AM
What's the bug? I was fighting a Mongo Schema bug all day
 
That's also how I read it
 
Angular 4 change detection thing, somewhere deep inside their forms code.
 
Side note: I've got a bit of a problem with the backend devs at my place trying to write react and css... I get that they wanna learn, but there are only so many times I can look at a 800 line component in a PR and say yeah, we need to start again.
 
@monners hah
I've had to deal with that so many times, it's really frustrating
the biggest issue is when management needs X feature done and is like "Can we just use it now since it's technically done?"
 
Any tips on preventing component creep?
 
1:50 AM
I aim to keep components as specific as possible until there's a proven benefit to making it generic. Pre-optimisation of react components can turn into seriously bad spaghetti
Common symptom is components that have 5+ props for seemingly unrelated things
 
> Did you use a flash?
lmao
 
Is that happening now?
Wait, can't be. Derp
 
nah it was posted 5 hours ago
 
@monners just ask them if that's what they would do if it was backend code?
 
2:04 AM
it's not like composition goes away just cause it's front-end
 
@KendallFrey ^
 
2:19 AM
lol
 
that's a very good gif
 
fantastic
imgur.com/gallery/ubzH1 @rlemon @KendallFrey
 
2:52 AM
...Can someone please look at the beginning of this doc seleniumhq.github.io/selenium/docs/api/javascript/module/…
And tell me
WTF is the point of all the functions returning promises if the thing written synchronously is the exact same? What's up w/ that?
 
Hey guys
 
@EnnMichael it's not exactly the same
 
anyone familiar with angular material?
 
@phenomnomnominal It's not?
 
@EnnMichael Probably in the case of certain error codes
 
3:03 AM
Only promise-y stuff done within webdriver is managed by their internal promise handler
if you want to do something else asynchronously, say logging, you need to know about the promises.
 
I know some websites consume some URLs as strictly as POST HTTP (not GET probs for REST API endpoints) returning status codes in the 400s or 500s
In other instances it may be that said URL needs certain query params in the URL in order to return a successful status code
 
@MalikBrahimi that's not really related.
 
@phenomnomnominal So is the first example ran asynchronously?
 
and in other instances it may be limited connectivity
 
@EnnMichael that's correct
 
3:05 AM
maybe poor wifi
 
webdriver just handled the asynchronous control flow internally
 
@phenomnomnominal And the second is effectively synchronous, right?
 
nope
they're both asynchronous
the latter is just more explicit about it's use of promises
 
Except in the second one they explicitly said what should happen when? Is that it?
 
So anyone familiar with angular material at all?
 
3:07 AM
@MalikBrahimi not material in particular, but Angular yes.
@EnnMichael basically yeah
@EnnMichael both will do the same thing, the first one just uses some magic to let you write less code
 
@phenomnomnominal Thanks man, but I think the issue is with material.
There's an element in <body> that is larger than <body> itself
It's strange dude
 
@phenomnomnominal Hey thanks man. Much love <3
 
@MalikBrahimi that's just CSS
@EnnMichael no worries
 
Does the promise returning function include the executor? should i throw or reject with error inside the executor?
 
3:11 AM
there is a <md-sidenav and <md-content> which are supposed to be on the same level but for some reason the content extends beyond the body (shown in grey)
 
4:08 AM
hello
does anyone know angular bootstrap?
why does it doesnt go on modal? plnkr.co/edit/R7DwAQtJcTs35LfHIVuM?p=preview
 
4:37 AM
Haaaaa
 
this guy on my team took two weeks to write a script to update db records
it was dogshit so I rewrote it in like 2.5 hours
i guess he wins because i just did his job for him
 
morning morning
 
4:56 AM
wow, the eclipse is really a thing now. It is such an overrated event.
 
WTF is going on with the Nodejs ?
 
what do you mean?
 
Sad day for @nodejs https://medium.com/@mylesborins/effective-immediately-i-am-stepping-down-from-the-nodejs-tsc-3df37c6ccbae
 
5:59 AM
somebody please tell me where i can find more exercises like this
 
6:34 AM
hello chat, why they used "created" instead of "creates" in the mdn docs - promise prototype - Properties?
or it mean "created by"?
 
@Shrek Ya know, despite they're doing great work, the TLC board isn't been following their CoC very well. Yet the democracy vote "exploded" in the complainer's face. He certainly do want that Roy wants to step down or removed. Although I stay at the sideline because I don't know the whole context. Not to mention that CoC is open for interpretation.
@Niing typo. It should be creates yes
 
I'm pretty thank you:)
i'm translating the docs to my language
<3
 
you're actually reading it. That's good.
 
6:54 AM
hey everyone
 
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Can somebody help me with this issue:
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Q: How to package NodeJs project into an executable with zeit/pkg npm package?

Aman Deep SharmaI am trying to make executable of my node app with https://github.com/zeit/pkg npm package. I tried but not able to understand the given document completely or I'm doing something wrong. After installing with the command 'npm install -g pkg' I have put the entry point in package.json file like: ...

 
The same docs link, Methods section, "..., or to its original fulfillment value if the promise is instead fulfilled.": i didn't understand it, does the word "instead" means not? @KarelG
why they used the word "fulfilled" in .catch()?
 
@SterlingArcher Ya know that such cards causes many people going in debt, of which they're unable to pay back accordingly. I'm glad that you have managed to pay it off. Now enjoy your profit after having paying it off. Give a drink :P
@Niing .catch(foo) is actually calling .resolve(null, foo) internally. Man that paragraph is poorly written
the .then() paragraph isn't written well either IMO
 
!!
 
7:04 AM
@Niing That didn't make much sense. Maybe you meant: 3, d, y, !, ^, π, ?, א
 
lol sorry bot, i was not calling you
 
@:(
 
haven't you read about the killerbots?
we should be nice to bots, just incase..
 
is .resolve(null, foo) similar to .then(null, foo)? @KarelG
i need an example, please~
 
@Niing resolve only takes one parameter
 
7:10 AM
err ... I am wrong
 
emm ... ohhhh ....
 
hey I have this video tag (angular 4)

<video class="bg-video" [src]="getVideo(videoAssets[familyID])" (click)="pauseVideo();"></video>

in that, `getVideo` return a video url.

The network tab shows a 206 partial content and not rendering the video
 
the .catch() calls .then() internally.
not resolve. Sorry for causing any confusions
 
any workaround?
 
@Redo what's the video URL?
A 206 is a reasonable response if your browser makes a range request (to not have to download the whole video at once)
 
7:14 AM
localhost
 
Hello guys!! what is the best way to cut down problem(function) into small pieces
 
@Redo This issue isn't actually angular related - it's video related. if you just put a <video> tag with that src does it work?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum yes. it works
 
@Redo the better way to efficiently stream to whole browsers efficiently is to use HLS or DASH. You can transcode your videos with ffmpeg (or automatically by your server).
 
@Procode analyse it and then refactor it ?
 
7:16 AM
@Redo but a 206 partial content makes sense.
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum If I directly add the url in src, it works without any issues. But I want to change the video dynamically
 
@Redo being dynamic isn't an issue here.
Are you calling play on it?
 
@BenjaminGruenbaum on button click. But it's not rendering at all
 
@Redo A 206 makes sense, it does not indicate a problem. How many concurrent viewers do you expect on the stream by the way?
 
just 1. It is a web app works in a kiosk machine. Everything will be stored locally
it won't connect to network
 
7:19 AM
So "instead" means not?mdn d p - Methods - Promise.prototype.catch(onRejected) - last line. Please @BenjaminGruenbaum
 
@Redo try reproducing the issue without Angular
 
ok I'll try to repro it and give you the link
 
Is the machine running a webserver on localhost, or is the browser accessing stuff via file uris?
 
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@Niing nope, that's right, try writing the example with synchronous try... catch - if you don't rethrow in a catch it handles the exception
 
7:22 AM
@Benjamin I waited for, say, 30 seconds and it works if I used the function. I mean the video rendered.
But if I use direct url, I don't have to wait
The function have a console log just before return and it logs without any delay
 
an example will be appreciated. I'm noob of exception. throwing error to nowhere. @BenjaminGruenbaum
 
Is there a known backend js library other than node js?
 
node js is a library?
 
nope js ?
 
not js ?
 
7:27 AM
no js?
 
lol, i'm sorry. i don't know
 
Wietlol is going to write a new language called "no-js".
done
 
no-js = java
 
not really
would be pretty amazing if i wrote Java in about 10 seconds
or an indication that Java designers are really rubbish
writing the language, not an application in the language
10 seconds not enough for even writing the package stuff
on a side note, you are not supposed to write the import statements
you are supposed to not use Notepad to write your code and generate all that stuff that you dont care about anyway
 
Why this javaScript room has "nodejs" tag but not angular or other staff?
 
7:40 AM
Ok, i know what it means now, thank you:) @ Benjamin
 
@hellzone Because Angular sucks
 
why you so mean... but i like that.
 
@MadaraUchiha why is your name blue?
 
@Wietlol Because he hates Angular
 
makes sense
i wish my life would have made that much sense
 
7:48 AM
@Wietlol I'm a moderator.
 
not to me that only a small amount of people on SO hate angular. @Wietlol
 
o/
 
@Niing those haters have to use it because of their work :P
Like I don't like Java but I do have to work with it 😐
 
:) i ... love Java because it sounds like Lava ... or maybe saliva.
I like this dope.
especially 1:02~
 
8:09 AM
@KarelG you are my man
(#nohomo)
can you make a list of everything that sucks in Java?
(just the language, not everything around it)
 
...aaand I lost the game. Is this how you treat newbies who bother to take a look at the rules? ;D
 
define
> game
> newbies
> rules
 
@jAndy, here is your clone -^
 
jAndy?
 
@Nuvanda as long as you stay in this room, you will never win the game, guaranteed.
 
8:14 AM
!!/xkcd 391
 
I am free!!
/me runs away
 
youre "free"d by Ivern
not bad
 
I learned HTML and CSS. My first day of learning javascript
 
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8:26 AM
cool story
 
Any tips?\
 
Wietlol appears to be interested
@ShwetabhShekhar always write on one line
dont do fancy stuff like:
var stuff = "bla"
+ "foo"
+ "bar";
it will get you killed one day
and it wont even be me who will kill you
other than that, needs moar context
 
@ShwetabhShekhar eloquentjavascript.net and github.com/getify/You-Dont-Know-JS are pretty neat
 
facebook has support for basic markdown now? 0.o
that's partly really really good
\`code\`
\*bold\*
\_italic\_
 
@Wietol @GNi33 Thanks for the positive feedback. Live Long and Prosper
 
8:37 AM
I'm sick tired of seeing unformatted code on facebook
 
I've never seen code on facebook
 
well, I got a couple of friends who ask for help on facebook sometimes
 
@Wietlol what if this text is long :(
 
define
> text
> long
> this
> :(
 
Yeah i just finished the translation
 
8:40 AM
@towc im sick tired of seeing facebook
 
it's cool that mdn can connect description from one page to the others.
 
@towc discussing code on fb is quite unatural IMO
 
it is, but ah well
 
it's the mdn site written with Ruby? I noticed the {{ ... }} syntax when editing.
 
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@Procode Please don't post unformatted code - hit Ctrl+K before sending, use up-arrow to edit messages, and see the faq.
 
8:49 AM
If I want a function to change a value(numb) of a variable outside of it which was sent to it.....
var numb = 0;
function hello(myNumb){

myNumb = 1;

}

is this correct?
hello(numb);*
 
Try it
 
emm, i got undefined
 
@Niing scoped, you could use window var for global
 
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ohhhh i got it
maybe passed by value?
 
KumaScript!? head exploded
 
@procode nope actually it has a return value in your function
--> https://jsfiddle.net/shvzxakz/
 
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