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12:00 AM
with both ssh and https git checks with the remote repo to see what commits(and files.. all objects) it needs to bundle and sends just them. they are comparable in performance (at least some some git implementations)
anywho.. We know SSH can solve your problems and i preferred by geeks everywhere
 
if anyone has good ssh resources "shove them at me"
 
Who wants to go on Judge Judy with me to debate my unlawful removal from RO?
 
the github docs ought to cover it
 
and my sample above demos using an alias to use another key for the second account (for after you get the main account working)
That's your {home}/.ssh/config file
 
12:02 AM
now I can't put it on my resume which could potentially cost me thousands of dollars
 
@ndugger You can still put "friend owns a wicked slammed civic with a magnaflow exhaust" so thats still something
 
@hilli_micha with dubs, yeah?
 
@littlepootis Inspiring
 
@ssube Absolutely, the shiniest, chrome dubs that you can shove on a Civic that can't clear gravel on the road.
 
12:12 AM
@littlepootis how is the phd coming?
 
I had a Sentra SE-R with a stromung catback and no pre-cat for a while. I never did the lowering or wheels or giant wings
 
jk
 
@Luggage I actually really liked the Sentra SE-Rs, they were as exciting as a Sentra could ever be. They had way more pep than you'd imagine.
 
The brief period of time I had no muffler on the evo was fun, set off a few car alarms.
Then I put a catback on, as you do.
I have yet to own a car with dubs, though.
 
Despite the pretentiousness, I've been very tempted to pick up a VW Golf as a 'throw around, beat up' car.
 
12:14 AM
this was the later SE-R, not the original. the "Spec-V". It was still nice, though. Way better handling out of the box than the normal soft suspension sentra.
 
@hilli_micha a golf or an e30 :)
very little compares to drifting through snow in a small steel box, either way
 
I would honestly love to get an E30, but I'm scared of the maintenance.
Especially as old as the platform is now..
 
I can't mention this car without sounding like a douche, so bear with me: Having owned a Porsche Boxster for ~ 6 years, I can say that Sentra was still a nice handling car.
 
Well, on the one hand, no single part costs more than $10 and you can replace them with hand tools.
On the other, you may as well buy two, because you'll need the parts.
 
Yeah, I've heard the water pumps on E30s are almost as routine as changing your brake pads..
 
12:17 AM
I ended up selling mine ('89 325xi) due to a voltage leach somewhere that kept killing the battery.
@hilli_micha well, if you put it too close to the radiator.
Which the 87 and earlier ones did, iirc?
 
I believe water pump issues was persistent for most model years.
 
The frame had enough flex that the fan blades would clip one of the hoses from the pump to the radiator.
 
Omg Luggage you owned a Porshe Boxter, you are such a douche
 
indeed.
 
everyone should get a honda fit
 
12:18 AM
@Luggage Sorry, wasn't ignoring, E30 discussion is exiciting, did you ever deal with the IMS bearing issue? lol
 
all the juice would leave and your pump (and engine, if you didn't kill it right away) would be gone
 
No, I sold it instead.
 
@ssube Yup, which is a shame, because the E30 platform did have some of the best looking BMWs EVER.
 
Mine was a 987, which had less of that problem, but I did have a slight leak from the RMS, which could have turned into that sort of issue.
 
it was pretty beat up by the time I got it, but still one of my favorite cars
 
12:20 AM
It was one of the factors I decided to get rid of it (to a dealer, I wouldn't give a known expensive problem to an individual, even though the mechanic said it was minor, not growing and probably not a big deal)
 
@ssube You done anything about that door rust? lol
 
Sold it to a guy who collects em and builds frankenbimmers.
 
someone buy my '85 supra p-type
 
Ah, even better I suppose. Nice Lancer btw, imo thats one of the only cars I think looks fantastic with a small wing.
 
Oh, that's gone as well. :)
 
12:22 AM
You're killing me my dude.
 
Some snow happened, things were said, it ate a tree...
 
What did you end up replacing it with?
 
A snooze-rocket.
 
 
isn't the supra the first Fast/Furious car
 
12:23 AM
aye, sometimes I almost fall asleep
 
... which is my name for 335i's.
 
It looks nice, but yeah, for better or worse, I bet it rides like a mid-sized cloud lol
 
it can't corner quite as fast as the Evo could, no
 
they handle decently, imo, but not the sort of tight feedback some cars have.
it's quite a competent car.
 
it's good, but it doesn't have an edge
 
12:25 AM
I imagine it's an Automatic?
 
8 speed flappy, yeah
 
They come in manual, though (in non AWD, at least)
 
you just lose those top two gears, which tbh I've never needed. 4th is good to about 75.
 
Im currently on an F150 that I hope to replace next year with a Mustang GT, so I can strike fear into hearts of attendees at any cars and coffee I may attend.
 
into the hearts of the attendees at...
 
12:27 AM
I had* an '07 Mustang GT. The new ones are even more power and better handling, I hear.
 
Yeah, actually, the newer ones have the independent rear suspension, and pushing 300~ HP out of the V6 models, I believe it is, previous gen was just getting 300 out of the horrible V8 3V, the Coyotes are even better.
 
the GT's have independent rear?
 
@Luggage Yeah, I believe since '15 they started putting em in GTs
 
nice.
it's about time.
 
12:31 AM
it doesn't seem to be a firefox fork or a chromium wrapper, which is interesting
I'd probably use it all the time if it wasn't for the fact that less than 0.001% of users have it
 
This isn't me, but the color/wheels/options i had:
 
i own a 2006 corolla
 
One of my old coworkers used to drag race mustangs and other American cars
 
I really liked the S197 platform's looks..
 
I also had an '89 LX 5.0 Hatchback back in the day.
 
12:34 AM
I was pretty stupid when I got my first car, which was a Civic, and thought I could stop-light race a fox body mustang with a 5.0. Nope. I just embarassed myself with my friends in my car.
 
hehe, yea. And now a 5.0 fox can't outrun a civic
230 hp , i think.
 
would getting a phd in web development be a silly use of time?
 
ok.. that'll still do OK, since they aren't that heavy.. but it won't keep up with anything remotely like a 'performance car'
 
Your current gen SI puts out 205HP, the Type-R puts out just north of 300HP
 
@William only you can answer that
 
12:37 AM
putting out and putting down are very different things
 
We live in an era of 365 hp Tauruses
 
The new fusion sport has like, 325 HP...its insanity.
 
trying to copy my ssh key to clipboard, github says use "phcopy > ...." but my ec2 instance doesn't have phcopy. elsewhere they say use 'xclip' but it doesn't recognize that either. tried to download xclip with apt-get but ec2 doesn't have apt-get either..
 
@derp i'm thinking about employability of course
 
oh then no, i remember reading some study where the correlation between education and money goes down after a masters. let me see if i can dig it up
 
the plummet in the correlation between education and money after X years makes intuitive sense. you gotta apply that knowledge at some point..
also anyone on the ssh thing?
 
@AlexBollbach well, how you are sshing into your ec2 instance?
 
ssh -i ./NewKeyPair.pem . ............
 
but you know...your mileage may vary
 
if using the supplied in-browser ssh, you can probably just use your normal copy keyboard keys for your OS
 
12:40 AM
ssh on my macbook has "phcopy" . this ec2 instance doesn't. effectively i'm unable to copy text on it..
 
otherwise, your terminal surely has a clipboard
 
trying to find out what it is
 
just select it and Command-C, then, if on OSX
 
i'm not smart enough for computer science I suck at math that is part of the problem
 
im on ec2
 
12:41 AM
@derp Wow, its a shock that 'self-taught' ranks so high.. I can understand because it shows passion, but I've always assumed that HR will ignore you if you don't have a degree or on-the-job experience.
 
the machine you are sitting at, is that OSX?
 
im not sav'e enough to determine which OS it runs haha
 
and are you using the built in terminal?
 
i see where you are going haha
 
you don't ever need to copy off your machine
 
12:42 AM
i would like to know the CLI way tho
 
If so, select with mouse and command-c. That' your LOCAL copy.
 
your terminal will fake type it in for you
@AlexBollbach ssh-copy-id
 
you don't want it on the ec2 instance's clipboard, though
 
ah because i need to paste it into githubs site?
 
Right.
 
12:42 AM
or maybe it is scp
 
@hilli_micha yeah i'm assuming these are front end developers mostly interviewed where it probably matters less
 
Why aren't you jsut making keys on your mac locally?
you may want that, too
 
because the ec2 needs the key pair
o
i'm pushing from the linux VM -> Github
 
ok, then you're right. carry on
but just command-c, command-v that biatch.
 
@hilli_micha only at dysfunctional companies
 
12:44 AM
derp thanks for the link
 
@Shrek Everything in that video is invalidated simply because he included Anita Sarkeesian, a known psychopath, lol
 
(the .pub file contents, if you don't know)
 
that's last year's survey...this year's survey is out as well
 
@ndugger I just wanted to rickroll yall
 
@derp It gives me confidence to be honest.. I've been employed as a developer for 4, nearing 5 years now, but I've always been nervous that when time comes to change jobs. They'll see "NO DIPLOMA" and ignore me, which is why I'm in school now.
 
12:46 AM
@Luggage i cat'd it and selected the text and command-c'd it..
 
i mean yeah, it does restrict the pool of companies willing to hire you...
 
while i've got you.. how is it that in ~/.ssh/ . there's the key pair.. should there be multiple key pairs? is /.ssh not the main dir for ssh stuff? so why does the recently generated keys get prominency in that dir?
 
but do you really want to work at a place which takes such an arbitrary approach to hiring?
 
@derp Morally, I think it's silly, however my objections to such a method doesn't get me paid lol
 
there are as many keys as you generate, but it'll default to id_rsa and try that key for any unconfigured server
for your second key, make sure you give it a new name
 
12:48 AM
what i'm wondering is how is it that ~/.ssh/ has only that recently generated key pair
surely there is some directory where the multitudes of ssh keys i am actively using lives..
 
what other keys are you missing?
 
im not saying i'm missing keys
 
32 secs ago, by Alex Bollbach
surely there is some directory where the multitudes of ssh keys i am actively using lives..
 
im just trying to understand the process
 
it may have overwritten an existing id_rsa.. i'm not sure if it asks you
 
12:49 AM
what other keys?
 
linux, out of the box, has no keys.
 
@Luggage it does
 
ok i'm not making myself clear i guess
i perhaps have to educate myself on this to pose better questions
now its making me enter my passphrase on the ec2 for every push/pull
 
you can either not use a passphrase or use an 'ssh-agent'
 
i think i have to add the private key to the agent
so perhaps that explains why the private/public keys for this one ssh connection were sitting in ~/.ssh/ alone..
maybe it just generates a key pair to that dir and its on you to copy the public key for the remote communicator and utialize the private key yourself (say with ssh agent)
 
12:54 AM
yes.
 
@William have you even tried googling that? quit vamping
 
i'll delete it but yes I have tried googling it
 
me?
calling me a vampire?
 
is this your new key?
ssh-rsa AAAAB3NzaC1yc2EAAAADAQABAAABAQDA2M1l3yoLfuixN/zkYsj1kKYffjIt4WhCxELY5mUEShfZ/V6cr9EGYpe2BD0oZBjLFuJbt29ItkkqYX/L0+uBeuK2AGsQdtRyp/ihY1SBV7DrOmHJFkRkgoyWxymAbOVbAxX7zSwdemxg80MOgWcj0ykrUSUJbMkv04xJC80+Rrayzki6UGf/bIFL+X1kbcTRSZ4za8H3we6uBTzuzPbsKXflNkKiM0l6amyKAgm1oDJTgKlXMML7GGjZe/J46SqiNf7+kWu2uPAD38GLOpysfwGDNoYUNt6Yio0H7FTmcIixRrXrSEstbusSQUiJVh+pHbMhQ7xAXls7DTOEx4Ch
 
why would you put is rsa key up like that lol
 
12:58 AM
lol
hunter12
 
555Abfgg888ddd
 
@Arrow trying to freak him out if he doesn't understand keys.
It's a public key :)
 
Ohoooo
 
consider urself hacked, buddy
 
A K
i'm starting to hate typescript and redux
i'm googling typescript + redux examples but they're really old and i can't really follow them
 
1:07 AM
I hated typescript before I even started using it
 
A K
Error: Reducer "footerReducer" returned undefined during initialization. If the state passed to the reducer is undefined, you must explicitly return the initial state. The initial state may not be undefined. If you don't want to set a value for this reducer, you can use null instead of undefined.
 
that's not justified hatred
 
A K
i still can't figure this fcking error out
my initial state isn't being defined
import { createStore } from 'redux';
import combinedReducers from './../reducers/';

import { contacts } from '../data/contacts';

const initialState = Object.assign({}, {
  contacts: contacts,
  selected: null,
  editView: false
});

export const store = createStore(
  combinedReducers,
  initialState
);
that's my store.js
err store.tsx
import { combineReducers } from 'redux';

import listReducer from './listReducer';
import footerReducer from './footerReducer';

const combinedReducers = combineReducers({
    footerReducer,
    listReducer
});

export default combinedReducers;
 
how about footerReducer()? that's the one the error is complaining about
 
A K
import { FooterAction, SHOW_EDIT, HIDE_EDIT } from '../actions/footerActions';

interface FooterState {
    editView: boolean;
}

function footerReducer(state: FooterState, action: FooterAction) {
    switch (action.type) {
        case SHOW_EDIT:
            return Object.assign({}, state, {
                editView: true
            });
        case HIDE_EDIT:
            return Object.assign({}, state, {
                editView: false
            });
    }
    return state;
}

export default footerReducer;
 
1:10 AM
walls of text
 
A K
when reducers are hit, the initial state is undefined
that's the error being thrown
 
is a valid initial state passed into the reducer?
 
A K
no, its undefined
for all reducers
 
Then the error is telling you that when that state is undefined, you need to supply a default.
 
A K
i was able to work on the project with just one reducers, but now i cant progress any further until i can combine all reducers
i'm not sure how i pass the inital state through my reducers
i thought that's the purpose of createStore
 
1:13 AM
got me.
I don't redux.
 
A K
meh, i dont' know what to do
 
But the error says "when state is undefined, return a default" and you just said "the initial state is undefined". So it sounds like you need to test for undefined in the reducer and return a new state?
 
A K
so frustrated
i tested for undefined and return
but the output is still undefiend
it works when i pass only one reducer to my create store
 
show me that version, please.
hm. ok.. I have no idea, then.
 
A K
but when i combine reducers, it's treated as undefiend
it doens't compile, but when i do test for undefined, it will compile
but still return undefiened initial state
that's the confusing part for me
 
1:18 AM
The docs show it setting a default state in the reducer that your code example does not do.
they use function argument defaults: function counter(state = 0, action) {
 
A K
but what about typescript
 
same rules. typescript is just javascript with types
 
A K
i believe i tried that
but ill try it again
 
function footerReducer(state: FooterState = { editView: false }, action: FooterAction) {
or if (state === undefined) { return { editView: false }; } perhaps
it's switching on action, the docs specifically say when state is undefined
 
ahh TIL
 
1:28 AM
@AK any luck?
 
A K
i think i have something
its a lot more confusing than before
basically createStore doesn't work well with initial state in redux and typescript
 
typescript changes nothing.
 
A K
and i need to define a bunch of initial states in my reducers
 
and createStore IS redux
yea.. that's what the docs say. That's the only way it knows how it looks before any ctions take place.
 
A K
but when i combine reducers, create store doesnt use my initial state in the argument
 
1:30 AM
Anybody wanna help a clueless kid do a thing?
 
> combineReducers will check your reducers by passing undefined to them; this is done even if you specify initial state to
 
I want to create visual "nodes" out of html elements through javascript.
 
A K
OOOOO
just when i think i got typescript and redux
nope
 
Each node looks something like this
 <div id="boxe0" class="box">
  <div class="title">Sample Text</div>
  <div class="mainText">
  <ul>
   <li>shit</li>
   <li>shitkjhgkjgkjhgkjhgkjhgkjhgkjh</li>
   <li>shit</li>
  </ul>
  </div>
 </div>
 
A K
yes i got it now, my gosh, i have to rewrite so many codes
 
1:31 AM
you are allowed to not like typescript, but you keep blaming it for things the docs told you to do..
 
Each node will have its own size, color, etc. stored in javascript and then attached through CSS
 
A K
i'm building a osx contacts clone in typescript, react and redux
its for an interview tomorrow :(
i just have to tie in all my reducers and i'm done
 
@10Replies I think you want document.createElement and appendChild.
 
good luck @Ak
 
Am I thinking about it the right way? It seems like a pain in the ass to use createlement and append child
 
1:35 AM
well, you can use some form of "template" library, if you want.
 
That sounds usefull.
 
but it's just a few createElement calls and setting properties in a loop
if I understand what you want.
 
Well, I'm going to store node properties in a big JSON file
And then loop through it to render all the nodes
 
can I see a sample of that file?
 
Yeah sure
{
	"id":42042069,
	"position":{"x":500,"y":500},
	"child":1234567,
	"parent":76543210,
	"nodetype":"textnode",
	"contents":"Nodes will be assigned an 8 digit random numerical sequence which will not change and the user will not be able to see without turning on debug mode"
}
 
1:38 AM
hm.
 
Eventually the contents will be able to have lists and stuff, but, its just a bare minimum prototype for now
 
are you going to need to change these live, or just place then once and view?
 
I'm trying to create a fully functioning node editor
So eventually the user will be able to click the contents of the node and change them
 
A K
yea i understand it now @Luggage
I'll be more detailed in reading the docs
but it all works now
 
:)
 
1:39 AM
and change the title, color, connections and possition
 
@10Replies why don't you use the node type constants instead of a string that says "textnode"? developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Web/API/Node/nodeType#Constants
 
littlepootis JSON
 
They're integers
 
ohh, right.
 
I will have other node types like "img", "spreadsheet", etc.
 
1:41 AM
so.. if you want to make a full editor, then my suggestions of how to just place a few elemnts on the page is not too helpful. that's a big task where you should be choosing how you want to make it
Personally, I'd use react, but it's not the only valid choice.
 
I haven't ever used anything besides Vanilla JS and P5.js
 
but for a quick read-only prototype.. maybe github.com/hyperhype/hyperscript ?
or even d3.
 
I didn't realize just how complex editing nodes would be until just now...
I guess the user could click them and it would open up a popup menu with all the actions
That way you can view everything in a larger screen and have access to a full editor
 
well. it's not that bad. just el = createElement('div'); el.style.top = 500; container.appendChild(el);
vanilla.
the complexity comes with being able to edit, keeping track of 'selected items', etc. All the 'state'.
 
yeah
What would using something like React or hyperscript help me with?
 
1:47 AM
well, hyperscript is just a 'template' library. react is only a little more, it deals with 'state' somewhat.
so.. not a whole lot directly.. but I wouldn't make a complex app without tools like that, myself.
for all the ittle things they do
hm.. how do you feel about doing this on a canvas?
 
What changes if I do it on canvas?
 
becasue some canvas libraries allow you to make object that you can select and move around
like maybe paper.js? I forget
just an idea. Not sure it's right for you
i know someone in here made a UI with drag and drop in react. sounded like what you are doing.
he's not around at the moment, though
going to bed, good luck.
 
cya
 
@Luggage @KendallFrey thanks for your help with this
http://fiddle.jshell.net/bwj8v51d/19/show/
 
2:02 AM
how do i play
does it only work on mobile
 
yeah
needs an accelerometer
one of my freinds just got 910 wtf
 
You expect anyone to intentionally throw their phone on the ground?
 
bout to try
 
oh gawd maybe i should delete the link
 
2:05 AM
haha
it flies
14 minutes in the air, 1274/1350 fuel
 
ur app doesn't work... wrtf
 
what phone have you got there?
 
zenfone 3
switched out of adblock browser
that fixed it
I got 1.49
 
@rlemon Where ya going?
 
lol highscore keeps going up
 
2:08 AM
@KendallFrey no where
 
well boring
 
was just a test flight
 
@derp what is highscore?
 
ummm @10Replies please stop playing before you destroy your phone
 
at least you have great roll response, right?
 
2:10 AM
uhhhhh
sorta
 
High score is higher than the score that i get
 
high score is a moo point since there's a bug in the algorithm
 
Protip: if you actually want to cover distance, use the powerful jet engine. It's paradoxically more efficient
 
This is js room not kerbal room thanks
Type 123 if you agree
 
123
 
2:23 AM
123
 
123
 
786
 
Only serious replies thanks
 
2:49 AM
I'm learning so much from this microbiology course
now I know MMO is actually methane monooxygenase
 

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