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12:00 AM
there are so many patterns from subtlepatterns that i cant decide which one to use xD
 
@rlemon "Text however (like for development or writing) looks terrible at 1080p (no clean edges to the text, fuzzy). However, if you change the screen resolution to 1776x1000 the text is fine. Go figure."
 
@Demorus no because look at the colours of their products and ads and shit. it's contrasting. you have very little colour.
 
ya you are right
 
subtle textures are an easy solution, if you want you can add more colour other places.
 
but if I add the background will it still be elegant?
 
12:00 AM
How is a member different from a property? Anyone?
 
most likely!
 
@James, member is another word for penis. Property is not.
 
@rlemon the reason for the icons is because they cam from the original work section layout which look like this
 
12:01 AM
Depends who you ask
 
basically unless their private there is no difference
private members... tee hee
 
but it was a list and had more styling and formatting and each project/work was on its own line
 
@rlemon Your just a fountain of knowledge aren't you? Thank you!
 
You're*
 
bazinga!
@James my google-fu is strong.
 
12:02 AM
@rlemon so the icons served as a way to tell the viewer what kind of content it was before they clicked on it. now that I have images they are probably not needed any more
 
"JavaScript is the world's most misunderstood programming language." This opening sentence makes me feel less stupid.
 
@benlevywebdesign but the headings also do that on your site. you put them in sections.
 
what you think about the "subtle dots"
 
it's cool to leave them, i'm really nit picking.
you asked for criticism
 
12:04 AM
guys
this subtle patterns page is the killer
 
@James weak typed, lexical scoped, prototypical and can support OOP procedural and many other programming patterns... it's a beauty and a beast all at the same time. Learn to love and hate it (but mostly love it)
 
i never knew that backgrounds can make a huge difference
 
@Demorus :)
 
@Demorus subtle dots is nice
 
@rlemon I thank you for it. But, what purpose do they server if you said they are distracting? I was gonna change them up a little to be like a little banner because they slide down into view
 
12:05 AM
ya I just tried it. Perfect huh
 
I don't know what any of those words mean in the context of JS :-|... better keep learning!
 
ill upload the page any second
 
@benlevywebdesign if they were all the same (a banner is a good idea actually) then it wouldn't be so bad. so long as the banner makes sense ;)
 
for you guys www.smushit.com/ you will love it :D
 
am i only one who thinks that the implication in his nickname about working as a designer is somewhat sickening ?
 
12:07 AM
@tereško, yes, but don't say that outloud!
 
@tereško i thought it to be counter productive at first, him being a 'designer' in here asking design tips (presumably getting paid for it) but then I just learned to ignore it
he's a nice guy
and he protects us from predators
 
yeah, nothing wrong with helping out
 
phenom, how much would you rate my sites design? from 1 to 10
 
link? can't be bothered scrolling back up :)
 
ok let me upload the new version first!
:D
 
12:10 AM
benlevywebdesign doesn't seem to understand colors/subtleness imo, no offense to him
 
@Demorus my first impression: 2 , but you would have to share the URL to get a more accurate assessment
=P
 
I like this guy, he's a quasi help vamp but came to us not with shit. and is super friendly to boot :P hehehe
 
my biggest issue honestly are all the background images with his site, I hate that, you could do most of them with pure CSS
 
lol who?
 
you
 
12:11 AM
Lol damn you
 
I have no problem with him having ambitions, and if we can help him out then that's probably win win
 
oh well hey but one hand washes the other ;)
 
well no blame too you, you're a musician. I assume this is only because you wanted to have a hand in the creative process with you're own marketing and selling of your stuff.
correct me if i'm wrong.
 
@rlemon I used to also have my work that was in the form of pdfs download only to view it and then I did some new work where I learned in InDesign you can create page navigation links (like previous and next) and output it to pdf format and it creates the buttons with the actions on click etc. Then I saw the swf format you save your files as and I did my pdfs in swf format so you didn't have to download them at all.
 
12:13 AM
@benlevywebdesign no, now you just need a swf player plugin :P not a whole lot better.
pure images or iframes is best.
 
@Zoidberg'-- STOP COUNTER-FLAGGING OBVIOUS SPAM !!!
 
I feel like I've been help vamping off rlemon too much today but I have learned a lot about objects in JS, I'm gonna try to keep that to a minimum for a while now, I feel I burned up all my goodwill creds today
 
user142019
Nope.
 
user142019
Stop not moving stuff you like here to the bin.
 
user142019
Also it's not spam.
 
12:14 AM
@rlemon Then I just as of the last 2 weeks gave in and made my projects have there own page like most people do when they show off pdfs like this regen branding project
 
user142019
(uncountable, computing, Internet) A collection of unsolicited bulk electronic messages.
I get far too much spam.
(uncountable, computing, Internet) Any undesired electronic content automatically generated for commercial purposes.
(countable, rare, computing, Internet) An unsolicited electronic message sent in bulk, usually by email or newsgroups.
 
ok im back :D . Ya rlemon. Simply needed some little help and I also like learning. I learned css , html and basic js all by myself within 4 months
 
user142019
It's neither of those.
 
I don't think people who ask basic (but well intentioned) questions are vampires
 
@benlevywebdesign my point is 90% of your audience will have a mobile device. pdf viewers on them are not quite there yet.
 
12:15 AM
@Zoidberg'-- what is this if not SPAM : chat.stackoverflow.com/…
 
best to not force it
 
What are question vampires anyways?
 
@tereško wow, well caught. I didn't notice it.
 
I heared this term I think once before
 
1 message moved to recycle bin
 
@rlemon , also , could you let mods know about Zoidberg's behavior ?
 
simpler guide :P
 
@rlemon I have some of my projects still in sfw format(changing them over the better way)
 
he ONLY counter-flags
everything
 
12:17 AM
@tereško I don't know what good it would do. I'm a lonely room owner. You're probably much more noted and known than I and have thrice the rep
 
and then goes to the chat room and bitches about it
 
Oh i see. I call those energy vampires because they well do exactly that. I think people should really avoid those people. It is horrible how sometimes we help individuals and those simply tend to give back negative responses and actions
 
@rlemon and yes that is why I am changing them because you can't really view pdfs on the web or mobile directly on a site very easily. Chrome and Safari allow you to view them with out downloading them but they aren't the native experience you get with acrobat
 
or simply drain help but never give back anything, not even the slightest thank you.
 
@Demorus I like to try to help everyone. not everyone agrees with my help, especially if I tell them they're taking the wrong approach. but, well... they asked for help.
 
12:18 AM
@tereško I know they aren't in this chatroom but maybe let Gordon or someone from PHP chat know (chatroom link) they have the high rep to get it noticed I think
 
I had a girlfriend who was like that
 
also you have pretty high rep as well
 
meta. but that usually doesn't help much
 
@Event_Horizon What do you mean I don't understand colors/subtle-ness
 
@rlemon same with music, people cant accept criticism. Those individuals never mature and usually live in a micro world where they believe are superior.
 
12:19 AM
congrats on that btw tereško, I'm sure your improving PHP tag, even if its only by 0.01 %
IE we have a small impact because so many questions
 
Teresko is meanie. but often right. so listen too him, but give him stern looks sometimes.
 
My New Years resolution is to thank everyone for the help I get and try and help out other people more than I did before
 
well .. the php chat room has the .. we have a least ~10 people who are actively closing and deleting bad posts
 
@benlevywebdesign I mean the site would be more pleasant if the colors were better selected, some clash, some are too bright, the site while form look mostly professional, colors don't very much
also the background on my screen is pretty ugly (pixely)
 
@tereško i think most of us here avidly avoid the js tags on the main site out of fear of , I don't know how you PHP guys handle it sometimes
 
12:22 AM
Yeah, I pretty much gave up on the main site
 
Its just so hard
 
i doubt that any of us is following the main tag stream , instead we each focus on something we are interested in
 
it makes your brain hurt
 
for example + or +
 
I browse, hunt down questions that interest me or that are all horrible answers but already accepted and I cannot stand for future visitors to accept these horrible answers as valid.
 
12:24 AM
@Event_Horizon I am open to suggestions and will take them into consideration. The colors are some of my favorites so that's why I used them. I like certain shades of red and blue's and I'm picky about it
 
that^
I use it all the time
 
@Event_Horizon tell me how I could do this background with css?
 
it's not perfect, but it is a great starting point. tweak as you go
 
12:26 AM
gradients are not a good idea for site backgrounds. they are perfect for small areas, site backgrounds are best served as a solid colour or small repeating subtle pattern.
 
I said most things, and I said the background was ugly because the image pixely on 1920 resolution
you would be better off with subtlepatterns.com or black background or some gradients imo if your good with gradients and borders in CSS
 
gradients are unreliable at hi res. you cannot trust unreliable things on the web. .
 
I haven't notice too many gradient issues in regards to res, but I'd trust rlemon
 
it's not a fault that they are gradients.. they take too long to render properly so browsers shove this ugly crap at me (and by me, at least Event_Horizon is seeing what I am)
 
@Event_Horizon I don't remember where I got this background from but I changed up the color and I think it was from some site as the background
 
12:29 AM
@benlevywebdesign what is your resolution and screen size.
24" 1920*1080 all sites with full gradient backgrounds look like shit for me
Chrome latest + hardware accel (if needed).
 
I use this sometimes just to lighten or darken a color by how ever much it does it colorschemer.com/online.html
 
the link I posted helps because it picks non offensive colour schemes from single points of colour reference.
 
@benlevywebdesign also, there's some bugs in your "Visual Design and Typography" section when you open one, the flipping pages have to be flipped through several times to turn sometimes (tested going back and forth)
dunno if thats finished, just figure I'd let you know
 
@Event_Horizon what do you mean?
 
12:32 AM
I love this site. Haven't had great results from the images I put in it... but love the site none the less.
 
The part where it opens a "magazine" type view, when you turn page, it turns to the page its already on, and does it again, then turns to the next page finally
 
@Event_Horizon link?
@Event_Horizon is it an swf
 
@rlemon Nice
 
@Jawaune put a shirt on dude.... we don't want to see that on a programming QandA
 
in Android Problem, 18 hours ago, by victor
@Pallavi still facing that issue
^ Message #7000000
 
12:36 AM
@Event_Horizon what are you talking about? link?
 
@SomeKittens thanks, I'm half in the bag and still productive.
thumbs up
this doesn't usually happen.
 
damn
you guys dont know what just happened...I have a plant light which just exploded and the entire electricity shut off
 
"plant light".... prey tell
 
I used that light for my plant, a monstera deliciosa or philodendron
 
!!/google monstera deliciosa
 
Monstera deliciosa is a species of flowering plant native to tropical rainforests of southern Mexico, south to Colombia. It has been introduced to many tropical areas, and has become a mildly invasive species in Hawaii. Names The Latin qualifier deliciosa means "delicious", referring to the edible fruit. Common names include ceriman, Swiss cheese plant (or just cheese plant), fruit salad plant, monster fruit, monsterio delicio, monstereo, Mexican breadfruit, locust and wild honey, windowleaf, balazo, banana pineapple. and Penglai Banana. Description This member of the arum family Arac...
no images....
 
click there
 
power surge? did you have it on a surge protector?
 
my plant is covering my whole room ;) and they grow very quick. The leaves get big up to over a meter
 
all my fish tanks have UPC backups and surge protection.
 
12:40 AM
no I didnt. I should have though but my pc has loads of protection mechanisms
 
@rlemon can you figure out what @Event_Horizon was talking about in the "bugs" he says he found
 
hey .. emm .. is there any way i could make this code suck less ? pastie.org/5624181
its for arranging 4 panes of an overlay
 
link
 
@benlevywebdesign benlevywebdesign.com/#myAnchor3 under the Visual Design and Typography, click on one of the projects, the little window opens, it takes a while to load, then it has a flipbook that incorrectly flips if you click left and right a couple of times
 
there is no independent demo , ATM
 
12:42 AM
if I click, and then click before pageflip finishes, it pageflips to the page your already on
 
@Event_Horizon oh yeah maybe it does but I'm changing those so its not going to be an issue
 
thats what I thought and asked earlier
 
oh haha sorry
@rlemon or anyone do you like how the title of the work is styled and the layout/styling of the captions for netflix brand mockup
 
=/
 
12:48 AM
maybe lighter.
but it puts more focus on the content.
your site isn't about the background it's about the content
 
@rlemon i think the (a < b) && a = b; patterns actually hurts the readability
 
otherwise everything looks good.
@tereško yea, this is what I suffer from reading a lot of cryptic code. I begin to like the patterns the machines turn out.
 
actually it looks like crap , and i don't know what to do about it
 
thankfully currently no one but me has to support my code.
 
@rlemon so use that pattern but make it lighter?
 
12:51 AM
when I just wrote C# I was all like "YO DO IT RIGHT!", now I'm just getting lazy with my js.
 
that background color is the same thats on my main page
 
I'm in need of a helping hand @ stackoverflow.com/questions/14167296/…
 
@benlevywebdesign no browse subtle patterns.. the site.. check out a few. i like the linen ones. choose one and try it out. maybe a few different ones. go nuts.
but a single pattern or solid colour I defiantly do advocate.
 
@rlemon +1
 
@rlemon what did you do in your screen shot
 
12:53 AM
@DJDavid98 I didn't read it yet but +1 for 1) making the fiddle, 2) posting a link to the Q first. and 3) because these things sound better in threes
 
I guess xD
 
besides maybe remove my background
 
@benlevywebdesign CTRL + ALT + I > body tag > add attribute > style="background-image: url(http://subtlepatterns.subtlepatterns.netdna-cdn.com/patterns/stressed_linen.png); background-position: initial initial; background-repeat: initial initial;"
that is it
 
@DJDavid98 for now we are rep buddies, 411 for lyfe for now
 
oh you didn't get rid of the blue background?
 
12:55 AM
@Event_Horizon Or until I get an other upvote :D
 
which is why I said "for now"
 
@DJDavid98 ... hrm, your fiddle works for me
 
@rlemon the pages didn't have the stripe on the right side and I just added it but I'm thinking its too distracting and maybe it should take it back out
 
It should only show the matched <li>s
 
ahh
nvm then
i misread
$('#ponies .accordion-body li:not(:contains('+item+'))').parent().parent().parent().parent().hide();
 
12:57 AM
I'm aware that it works, just not in the way I want it to xD
 
die O_o
 
Problem?
 
no that is just very ugly.
 
hey did you guys visit "smushit"?
 
don't mind me i'm a little drunk, still helpful but banter might be included
 
12:58 AM
@rlemon There's no better way to do what I want xD
 
it is a great tool for image compression. thought you might find it useful :D
oh and check this out jscompress.com
 
@Demorus If In case i'll ever be in desperate need of an image compressor, I'll remember your name :)
 
1) lots of duplicate selectors in the same function scope. even context selectors would speed up the DOM retrieval.
2) I'm working on the other problem, i'll get back to you
 
ya I also know a great free javascript compressor or obfuscator
 
@rlemon I have time. Exactly until my dad wakes up and tells me to go to sleep xD
 
1:00 AM
also, @DJDavid98 not that it's a huge issue, browsers are fast and all. but you want to do it the best way possible yes?
 
yeah, i guess...?
 
@rlemon what have you been drinking?
 
look up how to select with a provided context and pass that in in the same scope
    $('#ponies .accordion-group').show();
    $('#ponies .accordion-body li:not(:contains('+item+'))').parent().parent().parent().parent().hide();
    $('#ponies .accordion-body li:contains('+item+')').parent().parent().parent().parent().show();
    $('#ponies .accordion-body li:contains('+item+')').parent().parent().parent().addClass('in');
    $('#ponies .accordion-body li').hide();
    $('#ponies .accordion-body li:contains('+item+')').show();
 
isnt it better to make the accordion with css3? more speedy
 
every time you do this you pay a penalty because you have to reach all the way down the DOM tree.. when if you cache a common element you can just traverse from there
 
1:02 AM
I love looking up things when I'm about to fall from the chair you know :D
 
I rather use js for fallbacks
 
look up the syntax but iirc it is var ponies = $('#ponies'); $('.accordion-group', ponies).show();
 
It's like 2am here, but I want to get this thing out of the way, cause it's been bugging me for a while
 
ok, just a side note. take it or leave it.
 
hm
 
1:04 AM
@rlemon I should definitely take out the stripe cause it makes it busy huh work page with stripe
 
@benlevywebdesign oh my god, yes please.
 
@DJDavid98 it would be helpful if you could tell me exactly what code is the callback for the results
I've never used the plugin / ui element.
 
@benlevywebdesign wait, stripes as in that diagonal sidebar?
 
@rlemon It's in the $('#findname').typeahead({updater:function(item){...}})
 
@Nile just click the link ^
 
1:06 AM
@rlemon you said the share menu thing border radius is bad
 
@benlevywebdesign I see, but which stripe?
 
@Nile there is only one vertical stripe on the right side is there not?
 
@benlevywebdesign there's also one in the netflix redesign
But I was referring to the one on the right
 
@Nile that's on the clap board and those things have stripes so I'm not touching it
yes the one on the right
 
@benlevywebdesign remove it and let's see what it looks like
 
1:09 AM
I hate using bootstrap, there's just so few people who really know how to work with it
 
@DJDavid98 In what way?
 
removed it
 
@Nile In a way that they could answer my question(s), to be very specific :D
 
@Nile its gone
 
1:12 AM
@benlevywebdesign Are you only changing it on the redesign page? Not the homepage?
@DJDavid98 What's your question? (Not guaranteeing an answer)
 
@Nile yes all my pages that are in my work section that are pdfs wouldn't have it
 
@rlemon is on it xD @Nile
or, I hope he is
 
@DJDavid98 you mean rlemon is on it?
 
yes
 
@Nile so remove it
 
1:14 AM
done and done
 
@benlevywebdesign remove what? also, I think the whole site would benefit from not having the stripes
 
@Nile, yeah it really would
 
however i'm weary with jQuery and I still think the entire thing smells of poor use of DOM traversal and CSS or jQuery specific selectors...
 
@rlemon you wish...
 
works for me
 
1:17 AM
Hold on, allow me to test on the actual site, and we'll see
 
If I removed too much my bad. but my last line is basically solid in any case.
var tmp = $('#ponies .accordion-body li:contains(' + item + ')').parent().parent().parent().parent().show();
        tmp.find('*:not(contains(' + item + '))').hide();
 
@Nile remove the stripe from the work pages only
 
so long as you hold the shown ones and search their children for matches then you're fine
 
Yeah, now the dropdowns that does not contain a matching li won't hide
 
@benlevywebdesign well it was just a suggestion, but I think it'd look better
 
1:18 AM
I removed a few lines in testing my bad. let me go back
 
At least the part I had problems with now works, that's something
 
ok
@nile what about just having it smaller
look at my site now
 
If anything, I think it should be on the left. But I'd still say remove it completely.
 
by the way
I know how to manipulate the look of the facebook button :D
and I even managed to load it asychrone
asynchrone. Ya I forgot the edit function
 
the left?
 
1:23 AM
You can edit your messages
 
@benlevywebdesign yes.
 
@rlemon Any luck?
 
@Nile its on the left
 
@benlevywebdesign again, I think it should be completely removed. but if you insist, try giving everything some margin to the left so nothing but the labels overlap it
 
jsfiddle.net/jyuYB/5 I don't get why the fuck it isn't working
what am I missing
I see the element we want. and only that element.
 
1:26 AM
Thats what i need
 
I call parent().children().not(it).hide()
 
@rlemon what part isn't working?
 
It's perfect now, I don't see any problems xD
 
@Nile just because i could check it now I wont be keeping it this way
 
bamn, no
damn*
 
1:28 AM
I was ggonna say... my code did nothing
:P
 
yeah, kinda noticed late xD
+1 for effort :D
 
@benlevywebdesign okay, but check out the margin. also, stop randomizing the image! leave it as strip2small.png
@DJDavid98 what part isn't working?
 
@Nile Did you read my question like, at all?
 
why stripe2?
 
@DJDavid98 I haven't... is it the same problem that rlemon is still experiencing?
@benlevywebdesign It blends better
 
1:30 AM
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Q: Weird behavior when hiding & showing list elements in accordion

DJDavid98I made a jsFiddle from the problematic part of my website. As I tried writing the code: Typing some letters to the field will list names using typeahead, and when any of the elements are clicked in the typeahead dropdown, the accordions that does not have a <li> inside which contains the ...

 
@Nile margin? I made it center just cause i could
 
@benlevywebdesign okay.
 
@DJDavid98 the one you linked to works fine for me
 
@rlemon yeeeeehaaaaawwwwwww
 
1:32 AM
 
I updated my answer as well.
 
only the matched, sorry. =o
my mistake
 
@rlemon Whatever you did, It works xD
 
what do you want!!!!!
lol
key lines.
 
1:33 AM
@rlemon I don't want to change the background color on my work pages to something different so should I put some padding around them with a background color thats different or do something completely different
 
var tmp = $('#ponies .accordion-body li:contains(' + item + ')').show();
            $(tmp[0]).siblings().each(jQuery.hide);
 
Bytheway, how the hell you post screenshoots this fast
 
@rlemon Got it, thanks!
 
I like this one better.
 
1:35 AM
meh, to each their own. so long as it works for you
 
This thing captures when I try to write an @
 
yup, to ping people
 
shortcuts disbled :3
 
makes a sound possible desktop notification and a site notification if you are not in the room
o/ @RyanKinal
 
look how @RyanKinal 's and @rlemon 's image blends xD
 
1:37 AM
What up
 
ntm, just recognizing your arrival.
 
Sweet
 
do that again
 
Well thanks for the help, I'm going now, seeya
 
so close...
 
1:39 AM
It is pretty close
 
god dammit, just tested, and it does not work on my site for some reason @rlemon
 
yea well life is full of unexpected problems. talk to me in the morning :P
 
well you asked how to hide them David not how to re show them dammit! what do you expect from me!!!!
;)
 
not re show
 
1:41 AM
also sorry yea, that is a single result I suppose.
fuck.
 
the hiding isnt working
 
well then you just haven't found that out yet. ;)
 
I don't even...
 
Is there a reason it's $(tmp[0]).siblings().each(jQuery.hide); instead of tmp.siblings().each(jQuery.hide);?
 
1:44 AM
there!
leave me alone... sobs...
^ pointless drama
@Nile didn't wanna work. idk. I didn't write the lib.
I just tickle the keyboard until it laughs out working code.
 
@rlemon brute force is the only way nowadays
 
Okay, this works now, perfect :D
 
@rlemon Yeah... laughs... that's what happens
 
thanks again.
 
Anyway... gotta go find some dinner.
Later folks.
 
1:46 AM
Bye
 
@RyanKinal HERPES DOES NOT STAY IN VEGAS! otherwise have fun!
 
I'm out as well, 3am is gonna hit me hard in the face here, bye all
 
@DJDavid98 glad to be of help, thank you, come again.
 
should I make my images on my work pages bigger now that I don't have the vertical stripe on the right side?
 
anyways, I'm also out. I'm drunk and no good no no one now.
night all.
 
1:50 AM
your still good @rlemon
 
see ya
 

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