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12:00 AM
@Makoto totally agree. I've even asked him to. (without success)
 
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@Jean-FrançoisFabre I've lost count of the Hans slaps I've got - for real! At least a dozen
 
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thanks for him. deleted-meta effect. That must be a first.
 
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@Makoto my two most joyous occasions on SO were: being awarded a bounty from CommonsWares and writing a better answer than Hans. I figure I'm doing something right, I have great respect for their programming knowledge
 
too much commenting and not much acting is the beginning of the end.
@YvetteColomb SOCVR will end the job if asked nicely.
 
user3956566
12:06 AM
agree and I dislike pile on - it really doesn't help and can be overwhelming for the OP
 
@YvetteColomb Yeah, I believe it all began with this post about meta culture
 
@YvetteColomb Eh, that doesn't even contain any explicit question; it's basically unfindable for anyone with the some issue (whatever that is, in particular) and even OP apparently doesn't care anymore. Without a major edit, that does not really look worth undeleting in my eyes.
 
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@FélixGagnon-Grenier you got me!!!! I can't believe it! Do you know how long and patiently I waited to get you back? plans a new plan
 
hue hue hue
 
Rightfully closed for lack of clear problem statement as it stands.
 
user3956566
12:09 AM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier what did you do to that link address?? I need to know O>O
 
maybe I got carried away... hey Baum, wrong room. This isn't SOCVR.
 
@YvetteColomb I'm not sure I am ready to disclaim all of my tricks out in the open like this... but look closely at the domain
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Alright, fair enough. :)
 
it literally costs me to tell you this ;)
 
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@FélixGagnon-Grenier dang nabbit - such a tricky thing for someone who refuses to wear glasses when they should! LOLOL
 
user3956566
12:13 AM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier ok - for sharing the secret I will not exact revenge (mind you that's someone who wants to lure you into a false sense of security would say :D )
 
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@Jean-FrançoisFabre I'm in stitches over our attempt to undelete that question
 
careful with that. being emotionnally involved might not be the optimal course of action. I say that with much first-hand experience.
"damnit Felix, couldn't you just appreciate the moment"
 
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@FélixGagnon-Grenier neither of us have that issue - we're as cool as cucumbers :D
 
user3956566
12:20 AM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier ikr! it's like this little voice in your head that's always worried and correcting things! drives me crazy did I just say that out loud?
 
@Jean-FrançoisFabre Yes of course. I was mostly playing devil's advocate between your answer to question #9 (thanks Rob) and the behaviour of deleting a self-question after a bit of disagreement (disagreement being possibly amplified by your nomination)
 
12:44 AM
Time for sleep, cya! o/
 
 
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2:31 AM
@Makoto that seems to be a better reason.
 
 
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6:12 AM
@BhargavRao I mean, I could... I know how much work and complexity mods deal with, and it is certainly not a trivial thing to do. Recently I have been kind of looking for more stuff to do. The last few times I ran was when I was concerned there weren't really many candidates, although I entered too early and was happy to see the users who did get elected were very well qualified. Maybe, we'll see.
 
Ah, that's a good intention. I hadn't thought about that at all. What do you feel about the current set of candidates? Are the candidates competitive enough for you not to nominate?
 
I think there is a strong group running at present, which is basically why I haven't. I want to contribute, but if the community feels that others would do it more efficiently or in areas which need it more then I am fine letting that happen. I think I would probably be more focused on handling the more complex flags, and perhaps that isn't as dire as the overall state of the sheer quantity of flags.
 
True, there's a load of complex flags, but we need to bring down the other flags as well.
 
For example, I cast a flag on a post about a month ago, and it is still pending. It read "I noticed a strange edit to this post, the user REDACTED seems to make quite a lot of 1 or 2 character edits to posts. Perhaps it should be looked into for abuse." So, perhaps there is a need for complex stuff. By "quite a lot", it was like hundreds. They seem abusive.
 
The issue with the custom flag queue is that, once it grows beyond a point, we can't control it. There's no ordering/sorting etc. So even if I have some 10 mins of spare time in between my work (code compilation, builds, etc), I would not be able to handle the simpler custom flags, as I would need 10 mins to just sift through the queue. That's one reason why I wrote a userscript to hide @Magisch's flags.
@TravisJ Yeah, anything which involves the investigation of an user would take more than 5 mins, which implies 6 flags per day. But as I mentioned getting to that flag itself takes 10 mins
 
6:33 AM
Interesting. Yeah, I would be more focused on that stuff though, as opposed to making the call on NAA or too many comments, etc. I mean, I could, it seems most of those calls are rather trivial, however others are more eager to handle that type of content.
I like solving problems, and to me dealing with a NAA flag on an answer which is only a link is not really solving a problem so much as another drop in the bucket.
 
Well, there are 500 NAA flags in the queue now. Something which needs attention as well. ;)
 
lol
At least they don't take much time per flag.
If you could do one every 10 seconds then that would be like 90 minutes of work to clear.
 
An equal number of disputed LQPQ flags, each of which would take 1 min to 2 mins. (Check if edit is valid, if not plagiarized -> delete comments, clear the flag)
 
Yeah low quality post is more complicated.
The flag itself is so broad, it really lends itself to being widely interpreted.
 
Oh no, NAA takes 30 seconds to handle, at your peak. The reason is, they are delayed and the easy ones are all cleared by the community, so you need to judge quite a lot.
@TravisJ Disputed LQPQ is an auto flag. The VLQ flag is the easiest, we usually decline all.
 
6:40 AM
From the Triage queue?
 
No, from the low quality posts queue. Check this out meta.stackoverflow.com/a/317988/4099593
 
Ah
 
The too many comments are a pain as well. If you get in late, you need to make sure that you are not deleting any valid comments. If you get in on time, you get abused by the users.
Coolio, need to run. The build compiled successfully, looks like I can sleep tonight atleast. ;)
 
see ya :)
 
7:07 AM
@BhargavRao Any formatting help you'd like for that?
I have a mostly auto generated flag text so if you want me to work some keyword into them so you can sort them easier I can do that
 
Nah, it just sees your name and hides the flag, so it isn't an issue. :)
 
7:24 AM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier fair enough. Actually, I didn't get any replies, I deleted it before I got some. Last time I left it, got -10 & accepted the answer. Two in a row is a little too much. But you're right
 
8:12 AM
@BhargavRao I often see entire comment lists being wiped, with relatively little regard for valid comments, though
"Comments are a second-class citizen"
 
I love to do that, but I often get back a @BhargavRao who gave you damn authority to delete my comments ;p
I try to preserve them in chat. I move comments to chat quite frequently meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/345972/…
 
 
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11:27 AM
Did you write a bot for that @YvetteColomb?
 
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@BaummitAugen no lol- that really would drive people crazy - I do it when I think no one else is around
 
Aw, sounds like a prime opportunity to me. =D
You could even scrape the "last seen" of people in here to check if they are around. :)
 
user3956566
11:44 AM
yeh it is really - but I might get complaints lol
 
5:01 PM
so quiet :o
 
5:57 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier I realize that I didn't answer to the second part of question 9. My answer is now: not all bad posts should be kept :)
(I've deleted some meta questions in the past as well when I felt the question was silly & badly received)
 
 
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8:27 PM
@Jean-FrançoisFabre we need role models like you!
 
hey thank you!
 
no worries!
 
@BradLarson this fills me with a lot of hope for humanity
 

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