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7:19 AM
Morning
even @shaneis is not here anymore
 
 
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1:49 PM
Hi guys,

Can anyone recommend a database program which is much more simple than MS Access. Like a modern equivalent of MS Works Database?
 
2:29 PM
@JamesMcIntyre postgres, dude
 
2:40 PM
Thanks Andy,

Postgres advertiseses itself as "The World's Most Advanced Open Source Relational Database". I'm more looking for a database program which would advertise itself as "The most basic database in the world"

I'm literally looking for somthing to convince people to stop using MS Excel for storing data which should be in a small database
 
3:06 PM
@JamesMcIntyre James, I've been there. Postgres is not a complicated db, just a db that is open source, regardless of the marketing hype they see themselves
If you want a db, a centralized one, they will need some kind of frontend for that. Do they have one?
If yes, as long as they see the frontend, why should they care about which db runs in the back...?
if no, my 2 cents, it will be a tough call to ask the people in your company to use a db they know nothing about
 
We use Oracle offically and in reality for our big and old datasets but every new project which is started outwith dev, most teams just open a new spreadsheet. I'm looking for somthing like the old MS Works DB which I can point them towards and say "look, this is as easy/easier than Excel, just use this"
 
@JamesMcIntyre do a proof of concept with postgres
the issue here is not a technical one, more team convincing
if I were you but I'm not, I would go for postgres
 
They don't really have a multiperpose front end, just the specific ones our dev department gives them for specific tasks (I'm not a DB admin)

Do you know of a simple multiperpose front end?
 
try to convince one guy in the dev team to help you device a POC with postgres
@JamesMcIntyre soz. there is no real multipurpose front end
oh yes, there is one
sharepoint
that can be linked with postgres
 
You think it would be as easy to set up a postgres DB front end as creating a new MS Works DB?
 
3:13 PM
@JamesMcIntyre you will need to try
 
but you are saying that Postgres is more simple than Oracle and can be used for locally hosted for database with a few hundred or small thousand records a peice?
 
@JamesMcIntyre as said, you will need to set something up To me, it is not a tough task but to me only
 
I find it incredible that there's no modern equivelent to MS Works DB for the most simple databases
 
@JamesMcIntyre this is how things are. there is no such thing as 'no code'
 
I use Python and getting close to createing a multi perpose DB with Python, SQLite and some kind of simple table front end...

I'm just getting fustrated, I really do appreicate your help Andy
 
3:22 PM
@JamesMcIntyre if you use python, try some vue.js in order to build something decent, honestly
I thought you were into no code*
if you have something close to a beginning, you can add a few more things and you should be ok
 
The problem I have is at the moment I can't spend too long on this project as it's not sanctioned work. I can get away with pet projects to an extent, esspcially if they bear fruit but not sure if I can build whole front end to a database.

It would strike me as really odd if no one had identifide that too many people Excel for data storage and come up with a solution that was more simple than Access
(I work in Automations and don't know that much about databases, hence I'm here)
 
@JamesMcIntyre you can't try to do a mini functionanilty
 
Sorry Andy, what do you mean by doing a "mini functionanilty"?
 
3:38 PM
@JamesMcIntyre something that can be shown kind of straight away but won't be of a great deal of work
 
I maily use Python, would use Delphi if I needed a GUI which for my work I normally dont etc. I have very little knolage of databases and even less with Java Script and so I don't have the skills to create a simple multiperpose DB front end quickly myself :(
*zero in Java Script
 

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