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7:15 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez wassup
 
good morning!
 
Good morning o/
 
morning people.
 
o/
 
holy crap
and now sami
welp im on lunch
shit is crazy
 
7:27 AM
Morning!
 
lol everyone had to give up their weekend
we have soo many people here right
3x
like a army...
 
Friday is the best day
i scheduled my roster so that i only have to work 4 hours on friday
so i start at 8 and i am done at 12
boom rest of day free
 
@Tomm I envy you, although I only do 6.25 hours on fridays
the extra 25 lets us take the full xmas week
so all in all, worth it
 
7:45 AM
Rest of the week i work 9 hours a day
except the weekends i am off then
:p
 
8:20 AM
morning
 
i just didnt take overtime today
@HéctorÁlvarez no one envys meh :(
 
@Sami \o
 
@AndyK o/
 
@MoonEater916 how's that
 
my department operates 24 hours for internal support
we do not get holidays
and on black friday everyone comes in and works overtime
 
8:30 AM
ew
I feel for you
 
so @HéctorÁlvarez database hardening any suggestions
i Mysql had a fancy option on install to harden
but i feel like theres always more
 
@MoonEater916 damn
i've been to your place
 
ya?
did you see all the underwear i leave on the ground
oh you me like my job
whoops..
 
@MoonEater916 :D
 
@MoonEater916 been on shift
hey Sankar
 
8:40 AM
Raj
 
Hey dude :)
dudes
 
@MoonEater916 you need a Metapod
 
Its friday my dudes
 
metapod?
 
other images were NSFW
 
8:43 AM
i was about to say... i googled it... got nothing but pokemon
 
I never watched pokemon
don't even know what it is
 
@SankarRaj Cause you are not a kid?
 
@Sami Ha Ha.. Is this a recent one?
 
Do you have to be a kid to watch pokemon
smh
 
8:48 AM
@Tomm hmmm... I still watching Dora the Explorer
 
Mybe there is who think that cartoons forkids, I'm just asking him
 
I said i don't like pokemon. But i watch lot of cartoons
My favorite is Ben 10
 
I don't watch tv for 12 years now
 
i don't have cable
 
My fav channel was NAT GEO
 
8:55 AM
@Sami +1
 
@AndyK For what?
 
Fav channel
thats what he +1nd for
 
@Sami as Tomm said, for the fav channel
 
@Sami +1 and Discover channel. Fav program: Man Vs Wild.
 
ah, ok :)
 
8:58 AM
@Sami -1 NERD
 
:D
 
That moment when you finish a project, and your boss wants 1 thing changed and you have to throw your whole functionality out of the window and start completely over
smh
 
@Tomm what does this mean?
 
what ?
 
smh
 
8:59 AM
shaking my head
 
@AndyK Is the word you delete it yesterday a bad word?
 
@Sami which ones?
 
got it aka stupid minded humans :D
 
:)
 
9:01 AM
@Sami it is controversial
 
@AndyK Ah ok, hahaha as you know sometimes I don't know much :)
 
@Sami we all start at some point
 
how is it controversil?
 
Controlversial means that the swear word bad word can be considerd a bad word but it is arguable
 
chat wave in php
 
9:11 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez you know VB right?
how do you pause a vb app once you are inside of the code?
I tried ALT+F9 but to no avail
 
@AndyK unfortunately
it's quirky, you can't pause while running the code
 
You have to do that using a code right
 
either breakpoint somewhere or press the pause button like god damn Flash
 
@HéctorÁlvarez the guy who is working with me can do that
 
Ask the guy you are working with ?
or is that weird
 
9:14 AM
@AndyK really? I haven't been able to do so in VB6
 
@Tomm relation is fresh ...
 
so :)
You won't build a better relationship by waiting
Do you really wanna build a better relationship once you are forced to talk
 
@AndyK I think you've spent enough time together to ask for his secret button ;)
 
@Tomm in a peaceful world, it would be the case. but not in here
 
@HéctorÁlvarez now that's a weird sentence to log onto on a Friday morning...
 
9:16 AM
I am interested
 
politics , in one word
@HéctorÁlvarez lololol
 
I need an adult...
 
I think my age is working against me
 
@AndyK Breakpoint?
 
I cant follow this haha
 
9:20 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez shift + double click on execution
 
@Shaneis Hey hot Shane - stackoverflow.com/q/47469881/6426692
 
@Shaneis good mythical morning
@MoonEater916 that moment when you ask for an adult, and you are an adult, so in fact you are looking for an adultier adult, an adult that's actually good at adulting
 
Shutup you don't know my age!
haha
 
LOL, spot-on
 
@MoonEater916 Mybe what you are posting refer to your age.
 
9:27 AM
well my postings are youthful and handsome
 
Well, your point of view ^ refer to your age too
 
im being bullied...
 
a daddy
we all know what mooneater is up to
 
@MoonEater916 Move on it's pointless
 
Your not my father!
 
9:32 AM
@Sami yeah it's parsed fine but whitespace and the like makes a difference to the plan cache
 
anyone have any suggestions for hardening a DB?
 
@Shaneis timestamp is generally used as a mechanism for version-stamping table rows.
I don't understand it
 
@Sami timestamp = rowversion
I think timestamp keyword is depreciated
 
10:00 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez rextester.com/EDHC2416
 
@Sami timestamps are machine datetimes for auditing. Since it's generated as NOW at the time you insert your row, it's a good indicator to get any historical references you may need within your record set
@AndyK why the APP name and version?
 
@HéctorÁlvarez don't know ... not my code
 
besides, VB6 versioning has 4 numbers for Major.Minor.Build.Revision
oh so it's a piece of foreign hell
 
@HéctorÁlvarez exactly
I'm supposed to debug that code ... with no knowledge of VB
you understand my crankiness now
 
10:23 AM
@Sami free flag
 
@AndyK hahaha what a loser!... oh wait that's what I've been doing for a month.
shiieeeeet
jokes aside, feel free to ask whatever questions you might have... we should make a slogan. What do you prefer, hiss together or unite in tears?
 
@HéctorÁlvarez definitely hissing
 
?
 
War
ssssssssssso
g morning
 
10:39 AM
Morning
 
@HéctorÁlvarez both are great, alhthough I have personal preference for unite in tears. @War and me are co-head ranters. We can welcome a third member
 
War
whut!
sharing rank
 
count me in
cout << "Cries in C"
 
@War ok @HéctorÁlvarez I need to talk with my co-head ranter first, it may trigger another round of super-ranting ;)))
 
War
head ranter rank needs to be earned with an epic rant (just like i did)
we need proof you are up to the job of being head ranter
 
10:43 AM
@WhatsThePoint :D
 
@War +1
 
@War I bet you'll find some of my rants if you scroll up a bit
 
War
A good ninja rant draws people to it
like firing up a flame war
 
21 hours ago, by Héctor Álvarez
3 months after agreeing on a checklist policy, i.e. the project manager must elaborate a checklist (because he's the only one who knows the full system), the developer runs test cases on the code they released, send that to Jenkins, validation personnel run the checklist, once validated you many release and deploy the new version... well, there are no checklists for over 15 projects I've touched
this was yesterday
 
War
join the C# room and write "@KendallFrey, no-one gives a shit about Haskell"
 
10:47 AM
rofl
 
War
that will begin a trail or pain that no one can survive
also don't you have to be on discord for us to grant you ninja ranter rank
 
Nothing starts a flame wars as easily as saying the latin american version of <movie|tv series|tv show> is worse than the actual Spanish version>
 
War
interesting
what about declaring javascript "a good language"?
 
I don't have Discord on my work computer
 
god damn it
 
War
10:50 AM
or recommending building web pages using sprocs
<-- has experience
 
@HéctorÁlvarez you can access it through the web
 
War
ooo ... government job on a "CRM system" ... entire codebase = 2 files
^ eh
 
my job calling a stored procedure is failing - it changes a column to NOT NULL then creates a pk. It fails because it says it can't create a pk on a null column.
However if I run the script to set it to not null then run the script to create a pk it works
 
War
@Ricky noob
 
ALTER TABLE [BIKES].[dbo].[NVDModelYear] ALTER COLUMN [MY_Ref] CHAR(50) NOT NULL;


IF NOT EXISTS (SELECT NAME FROM BIKES.sys.key_constraints WHERE name = N'PK_NVDModelYear')
ALTER TABLE [BIKES].[dbo].[NVDModelYear] ADD  CONSTRAINT [PK_NVDModelYear] PRIMARY KEY CLUSTERED
(
	[MY_Id] ASC,
	[MY_Ref] ASC
)
 
War
10:52 AM
pk != null <-- seems like a legit assertion to make to me
 
its been working for ages, now decides to fail
 
War
cuz reasons
 
alright hand over that discord room
 
War
haha
 
I have to do these because the suppliers data updates drop and recreate the tables, which means we lose the keys we create on them
 
War
10:53 AM
@Ricky sounds like a great system design you got there
almost as good as the one @AndyK has to "clean up"
 
the software looks like it was designed in MS paint by the developers smashing their heads off keyboards
yeah so what am I missing
if I run that whole part of the script it fails
 
@Ricky #LMAOOOOOO
 
War
awww ... i do love a 15 year old project that was written by a 15 year old
 
@War loooool
 
War
those ones are so pleasant
 
10:56 AM
however if I run the alter column part, then run the create pk part it works
 
@Ricky what's the errors?
 
gues who is done with work for friday
 
Cause I'm tempted to just say throw a GO in between the statements
 
kudos to me
 
Msg 8111, Level 16, State 1, Line 5
Cannot define PRIMARY KEY constraint on nullable column in table 'NVDModelYear'.
Msg 1750, Level 16, State 0, Line 5
Could not create constraint. See previous errors.
 
War
10:57 AM
the reason is simple ... <enter star wars mode> "this is not the SQL statement you are looking for" <leave star wars mode>
pk can only be applied to a non nullable col
pretty normal
 
I can't throw a go in there shaneis, tried that - but when I modify the stored procedure it cuts off the rest of the script
heh I know War...but I have the alter column part to change it to not null
 
War
pk is a type of null constraint i think ... so maybe its a weird conflict
 
if i run the alter column set not null part on its own, its fine. Then I can run the create pk part....
I reckon its looking a 'go' in between
 
@Ricky you got a BEGIN...END wrapper on that sproc?
 
nope
worth a try?
will have to wait till after this meeting I've to go to
to listen to peoples voices saying unintersting things
actually its been cancelled :-D
 
11:12 AM
I'm not sure I can conceal Discord here
SO's white screen is doable, but Discord's rainbow-like UI looks like a hooker motel from behind
 
@HéctorÁlvarez nice
 
11:35 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez do i buy assassins creed origins or not?
 
@WhatsThePoint eeeeh... not the best AC, but it's fun if you like parkour and assassination
I'm more into tough games
 
i like assassins creed, and a mate has told me its the best one yet
 
anyone played Shadow of War?
was a massive fan of shadow of mordor
 
yea it's really cool
then again
9 mins ago, by Héctor Álvarez
I'm more into tough games
 
11:53 AM
@HéctorÁlvarez what is your definition of tough game?
 
Erm... Dark Souls could be one
Starcraft 2 once you get to diamond and upwards
havne't played SC2 for years though
 
Hitman :-)
can be as easy or as tough as you want
 
12:11 PM
I still think Blood Money is the best hitman game
 
hitman is technically more about thinking
than actual difficulty
 
12:56 PM
Today I've been tasked with an urgent problem, with emphasys on urgent, on a VB6 app that doesn't compile when I downloaded the last version from SVN, and I haven't seen this crap before either
I'm lacking a lot of libraries apparently
well, cya on monday
 
1:46 PM
@HéctorÁlvarez cua
cya
@HéctorÁlvarez I made it
issue with spaces
 
user7426734
2:10 PM
anyone to assist
 
user7426734
 
user7426734
or tell me the logic to implement
 
@faceturn homework
@faceturn try something first and then come back
 
user7426734
please guid me @AndyK
 
it will not help you
 
user7426734
2:21 PM
atleast the logic
 
I've been in your shoes before
try something, anything even if wrong
and come back
giving you the logic is giving you the solution
 
user7426734
@WhatsThePoint for me?
 
for anyone, just found it funny
 
user7426734
@AndyK please help
 
2:35 PM
fix my vb stuff
crash course in flakiness-software
 
@faceturn what even is your question?
 
user7426734
@WhatsThePoint i have posted above
 
user7426734
 
but whats your question? we arent going to do your work for you
 
@faceturn if I were you, I would start with a classification
 
2:50 PM
@faceturn What is your question?
 
see you all tomorrow
 
3:10 PM
@ARr0w cya
 
3:43 PM
@ARr0w bye.
 
4:10 PM
@faceturn put a question with the insert
I will have a look this evening, I even answer any questions for a while now
 
War
4:47 PM
I often wonder why i make so much effort
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A: Using the GAC for Multiple Websites serving the Same Content - Good/Bad/Otherwise?

WarYour situation (my interpretation) It sounds like situation you have is ECM (Enterprise Content Management). In such a scenario you essentially want a core product that serves up pages, documents, reosurces, ect and uses a core authentication model built in to the system. Such a system would be...

 
4:58 PM
Hi all, not sure I am going about this the right way

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/47476802/postgres-add-the-sum-of-values-of-group-by-records
 

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