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3:19 AM
@MacroMan "Dox" == "documentation" :)
 
3:39 AM
@DavidZemens d'oh - that would make sense! 😳
 
 
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4:41 AM
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Jeeped
I've vying for 2nd place right now
i'm sure you will - you already have the most posts. If you continue then at some point the rep you garner over time from a larger portfolio of answers will catch up to Sid.
 
user4039065
5:12 AM
@puzzlepiece87 - I finally found some time to bench test that method a little more thoroughly and I have found a limitation. Using the parameters backwards limits the array as the lookup_value to 255 elements. This makes it prohibitive to use as an array-based substitution to countif in large blocks of data.
 
5:56 AM
@DavidZemens also, just noticed the equal to operator in your response (==) been working in another language recently? :)
 
 
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user4039065
8:57 AM
@brettdj - 4 of my posts remain in negative rep numbers and only slightly more than 1.5K have been upvoted despite many zeroes having ~100 views and many being the 'accepted answer'. I do not expect any of those responses to be fueling my rep total anytime soon.
With that said, I am proud of garnering both the [tag:tenacious] and [tag:unsung hero] badges (both of which I am proud of).
I think I may be tiring of the SO 'game' and could be taking a reduced role in the future. However, 2nd place is still better than 3rd; especially so since the up-and-comings are so talented.
 
@Jeeped would you not be interested in going for mod at some point?
I'm also proud to have the unsung hero badge
feel like some kind of underdog haha
 
user4039065
9:17 AM
I did that for several years at answers.microsoft.com (http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/profile/a05bdd23-6c19-4f50-9b4a-3c6ae7d72590) through its many developement stages.
I have a lot of unfinished projects to do. Free add in for intelligent import, regional language formula translation via web site, blah, blah, blah. There are a lot of topics to cover if you have the time and my time spent here reduces that.
I recently got into a comment exchange with Macro Vol because he wanted me to rescind a close-for-dupe vote just to post a response to a bad question. I realized that I had posted m
 
9:28 AM
I dabbled in the MS Answers site for a short period but couldn't really get a feel for it, not sure why. One of my unfinished projects _is_ my website lol. Started it a while back and put a couple of articles on there but haven't done anything with it in a long while. Really should get that finished. And the 20-something .NET projects I started and never followed through.

I blame Stack Overflow and work haha
 
user4039065
10:08 AM
@MacroMan - take a look at http://magneticnorth.ca/.
Used to be a vibrant site. I'm not even sure if I am gong to renew it this year. I'll keep the domain if for nothing else but all the mistyped email I get from an actors studio back east.
 
I got a little bit further than that haha - funnily enough I've literally just got the email from my hosting company about an hour ago telling me a need to renew in June. Not sure if I'm going to though as I rarely put anything on there and I only really use the email address for site logins...
 
user4039065
I never worry about the hosting company only the domain registration.
 
Yeah I might keep the domain in case I want it for a future venture... I always like to have a site somewhere though just so I can play around with PHP etc. without having to install all the extra bits and bobs on my local machine.
 
user4039065
You know, it's just a copy and paste from your 'proud-of' SO answers into pages of knowledge (with minor semantic tweaks to discourage search engine duplicate identification).
 
That's the thing, I tend to just direct people to an SO answer than something on a site anyways (maybe excluding Chip Pearson's site - goldmine) so I really can't justify keeping a "proper" site.
 
user4039065
10:26 AM
The notion that you were not 'the first with the idea' is wrong. My OCD keeps telling me not to do things that I want to do because 'some else did it first'. That's WRONG. If you can make a contribution then do so.
I believe it was you that recently agreed with 'the cream will rise to the top'. Take your own opinions in hand.
 
This is true, I guess when it comes to programming languages it's all been done before at some point anyway!
 
user4039065
Please point me to a question in the excel forum that could not be marked as a duplicate (date descending order).
 
The last one, presumably. ;)
 
user4039065
10:42 AM
There are some big developments in some newer technologies. SQL moving into virtual tables would be one that comes to mind. However, largely consumer level software does not change. They may add 'features' that are rewritten aspects of what was already ther or make you look for a command 'over there' when it used it be 'right here' but I've never met an 'office worker' (nee secretary) that used more than 10% of the features of Office 3.0.
 
:30492208
dont be logical! At stack a duplicate can be the earlier question (I know).
 
user4039065
Yes, I went to http://stackoverflow.com/questions/30491761/php-pdftk-ascii-encoding-issue/30492208#30492208.
Good point in context. I'll keep that one in my blurbs.
 
12:34 PM
This question has got my interest at the moment - but not sure if it's technically off-topic as the code itself finishes....
 
1:32 PM
@MacroMan Yes, regarding the == I've been working more in python lately, and also some minor support in angular.js, asp.net, etc. at work; trying to broaden my skill set :D
I've been bouncing around the idea of a website for a while now (actually I have several already, unrelated to this sort of thing). While I can always point people to SO, for example, I've come up with some neat ideas and implementations here, that I'd like to give a proper space for expanding on those ideas.
For example I wrote a fairly basic python script that automates the process of building a PPAM file from individual .bas/.cls/.frm/.frx components (e.g., from a Git repo or other folder under source control) and XML components (for the RibbonUI). I also think that some of my answers here could be expanded upon, and I'd like my own space to do that :)
 
@DavidZemens That sounds very cool, I've ventured into other scripting languages but never found a real-world use for them so I quickly forget them. I tend to keep it ancient and work with cmd/vbs for any scripting needs haha. I'm enjoying getting to grips with .NET properly though and the web basics (HTML/CSS/javascript/PHP) but in my job I don't ever get to use them so again, I tend to forget what I've learned rather quickly
that being said, I'm currently in the process of trying to convince my boss to do away with the macros we use at the moment and recreate the functionality using PHP or ASP.NET so that we can have web-based tools instead, so I'm having to learn a bit more to create a prototype
 
I'm doing a tiny bit with VB.NET, actually the PowerPoint project which I've worked on almost exclusively the last few years, we are in the process of porting it over to VB.NET and building it through VSTO -- here at least we have many more devs with .NET experience than with specialized VBA experience. Also, I think it will make an ultimately better application, too :)
But I'm not doing the primary Dev on that any more, I'm overseeing a team in Hyderabad, so basically I'm doing code review, higher-level functional testing & debugging, etc., but they are doing the "heavy lifting" per se.
 
1:53 PM
It's the other way around where I work, we have a team of developers - a couple of which specialise in .NET but they ask the same guys to write macros, which I then inevitably get asked to look at because they are shocking.
Not because of their ability - but their lack of knowledge around the Excel model
They tend to record as much as possible and just go back and change variables where required. Drives me mad!
 
Yikes.
 
I'm working with a colleague at the moment to try and get coding conventions but in place for any VBA work. They exist for other languages, but as they don't see VBA as a "proper" language they are free to do what they want :/
 
We used to have a team mainly in California who specialized in Excel VBA and automating reports/graphics/etc. But it's been years since they pretty much canned that entire department, and in their absence I kind of picked up the VBA on my own, out of a sort of necessity. I've somehow parlayed that in to continued employment :)
For sure, if there's a team of devs working on VBA they should have some standards! Whether it's a "proper" language seems irrelevant to me!
 
Sounds like you found the golden ticket! In the UK if you find a job with "VBA" in the description, it's usually followed by "/SQL/Java/Python/Ruby" and pays half the salary of a .NET developer that only knows c#
 
I think that is generally the same here: VBA + Access/SQL/Oracle, Java, Python, Ruby etc.-- most VBA postings require at minimum, some extensive experience with MS Access, SQL/SQL Server which, despite that fact that I work in data analytics/market research, we've never really used Access at an organizational level. So I have zero experience with Access and almost zero experience with SQL.
It's a role here that I kind of fell in to -- a large part of my work was kind of being a liaison between "ordinary" workers, and IT/Developers -- almost like a business manager, so like, ensuring that specs and requirements were well-defined and understood by both the technical teams and the non-technical people who were making the requests.
Then, a few years back we had some big initiative about standards/best practices in reporting, and automating these, and me and this other guy who was a Python dev, basically got free reign to develop an in-house application, so we did that using Python back-end and VBA/RibbonUI as the UI/front-end. He left the company a year ago, so I picked up a lot of the python at that point.
 
2:06 PM
That's where I'm aiming, doing a BA role. I work in implementation so VBA comes in handy because I'm often doing reconciliations on massive data sets and need to manipulate data to go from one system to another, but I kind of adopted a "process improvement" role once people realised I was handy with automating things. I've got a quite a few big ideas that I'm considering developing in my own time and presenting to my company as an investment opportunity.
Gotta dream big haha
I want to get into .NET more, and I've successfully made a couple of very (VERY) simply applications and add-ins including VSTO for Office, but it's a hell of a learning curve.
Ironically, I think I prefer c# to VB
 
BA is probably where I'll end up, I'll be 36 next month and don't really have any "formal" education in comp sci/programming, and that's unlikely to change any time soon :) VBA entirely self-taught. Python, I think I took a 3-day seminar a few years ago, but apart from that it's all self-taught as well.
I seem to be able to pick things up quickly enough, and though I enjoy doing actual development work, from most employers' perspective I think it would be easier to sell me as a candidate with whose strength is "understanding & translating requirements to functional spec" than as a pure developer.
I've not done anything with C# but should probably tinker with it... we could've used C# or VB.NET for our app, settled on VB.NET just because I figured it would be less of a learning curve for me, since I still need to support the development in some capacity.
 
Exactly the same here, no formal computer related education and completely self taught in everything I know. Completely understand the "understanding requirements" thing - I used to work for a payroll company and the problem they had was that the developers would build things exactly as the spec said, but the spec was written by a payroll person - so when something didn't calculate tax correctly they would say "that's obvious, why wouldn't you make it calculate that!?"
So that's where I started getting involved quite a lot - almost like a translator between the two departments
then eventually started taking on the testing because I knew what to look for when trying to break things :)
 
2:43 PM
LOL @ developers building things exactly to spec :) I'm certain that's a problem in almost every organization!!!
 
3:08 PM
You would think that would be a nice problem to have - awfully confusing for the poor developer "Yes, that it what the spec says - but that's not what I wanted"
on a side note - does anyone know what the syntax doesn't work?
nvm
that worked
italic
bold
strike
I swear none of this was working before....
 
The code syntax wasn't working for me earlier, let me try again: foo
Oh, it does work, it's just barely noticeable. My bad...
 
I tried that somewhere too and it didn't work ==
Sub Foo()
Dim Foo() As Variant, Bar As Byte: Bar = 0: Foo(Bar) = Bar
<code>html tags?</code>
nope
 
 
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6:24 PM
hello @Jeeped
 
user4039065
⁵ back at you @Agawa001
 
@Jeeped ? i have a question if you don't mind
 
user4039065
go ahead. I can give it a try at least.
 
i was been thru a long journey to search a converter from vb6 to vb.net, an upgrader in more proper terms, my results was either 'not found' or 'outdated', wut can you propose ?
 
user4039065
that would depend on how much .net you want in the original VBA code.
simple transcription is pretty straight-forward. using the additional aspects of vb.net to the fullest would require much more of a rewrite.
 
6:34 PM
i know since vb.net is more class based language, i know vb6 is oo but not as much as vb dot net is, with event catchers and things
so a manual interfering is obligatory
but sure, some automated converting can be partially helpful
somehow
 
user4039065
Anyone with vb.net or even c#.net experience can translate vba code. Unfortunately the same cannot be said in reverse because a vba coder has never been exposed to things like try / catch.
 
like from C -> to C++ the viseversa is impossible
 
user4039065
Often never even written a class with let /get (although it is available)
 
user4039065
hmmm... I started in C and my first 'graduation' was to C++ but C++ snould understans C.
 
yes C++ is class based while C is not, it is more on system kernel
 
user4039065
6:39 PM
C cannot understand C++ because of the libraries. C++ should be able to understand C without libraries unless they are crappy at C++ and rely too heaviloy on libraries.
 
C is my maternal language, and people warned me about it being on the track of vanishing but lookk !!! linux works with C , +1 for C
@Jeeped i also cant understand the ramified nature of C++
now i can tell that vb migration partner, deals in an absolute slicky way with conversion between two stages, while i fail to find it
and ofcourse, personal finalizations
 
user4039065
no kidding ! As you even see more code in a wide variety of languages you will find yourself saying 'hey, that is C' a lot. geez... go look at java.
 
i coded with java, it requires a lot of packages to run
 
user4039065
as does C++ with headers and inc ludes
 
and the class inheritance is tough for me to understand
public/protected/private
 
user4039065
6:47 PM
tbh, i can write in a few languages and debug a few more. I can follow a logic stream through a couple more than that. HOWEVER, if I am in a project I like to delve into one and only one stream.
 
why googling isnt anymore helpful these days ?
 
user4039065
well, public is just that. available anywhere.
private is usually used for worksheet code sheets. unless explicitly stated otherwise, all references belong to that worksheet. see http://stackoverflow.com/questions/36368220/is-the-in-range-necessary-when-defined-by-cells (i was rather proud of bringing that to people's attention).
*potected* before I say something I will be told is wrong, i would have to do a little testing and research.
 

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