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12:16 AM
@Burn stop
 
Bye.
 
 
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11:37 AM
FYI
@πάνταῥεῖ and you are a debil as usual — There is nothing we can do 31 mins ago
@πάνταῥεῖ because you are a debil — There is nothing we can do 23 mins ago
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That's not a word that exists in english, is it?
 
no, it would be "retard", probably
but it's present in Hungarian, Slovakian, and apparently Irish?
"debilitated" is there in English, but doesn't have that strong offensive charge
at least that's my impression
cc @Petter, consider adding "debil\b" to nasty regex
 
meh
 
I'm not sure it's "meh", where I come from calling someone a "debil" is between calling them an "idiot" and a "cunt"
 
is "cripple" on the list?
 
11:46 AM
no, but you don't call somebody a cripple on SO to be mean:)
you attack their mental abilities and intelligence
 
guess so. Let's add it then.
I don't think it will pop up too often, though
 
indeed, but then again most of the nasty regex doesn't either
and you will almost never call your code or implementation "debil", so it might have high signal-to-noise ratio when it pops up
comment thread cleared
 
I have noticed there is no leading word boundary in your suggestion
 
@JanDvorak only laziness, I just wanted to emphasize the ending:)
 
Understood ;-)
 
11:53 AM
If you ask me, you're both being butts. You're welcome. :P
 
@AndrasDeak I know I'm a butt, while the other guy doesn't :)
 
yup
 
@AndrasDeak Being reflective is an essential skill :P
@AndrasDeak Can we close and remove that crap finally please.
 
Sam
@AndrasDeak Suspended
 
@Sam Is all of that really helpful for future research?
 
Sam
12:08 PM
It smells like a typo.
So yes, imo.
 
@Sam I met Theres nothing we can do frequently stepping by to shop for low researched trivia, and rarely see them asking good questions actually. I'm not judging for the user, but the bad VLQ content they tend to produce.
@Sam Smells like a fundamental misunderstanding what preprocessing and template processing is.
 
@AndrasDeak done
 
Sam
@πάνταῥεῖ Meh, if they carry on I'm sure they incur some warning.
 
@Sam I hope so.
 
I need to gather some energy and add to feed all this data we have collected and rebuild the feeds...
This room was placed in timeout for 20 seconds; Testing timeout function
bla
interesting....
 
12:21 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ you still shouldn't be ad hominem about it. Attack their current crap, not their general crap
that way you don't lose the moral high ground (as easily)
 
@AndrasDeak I'm in a process of improvement, appreciate any help.
 
@Sam wow, for a month. My first round of flags didn't do that, it must be because he kept on pushing it
@πάνταῥεῖ good luck;)
@PetterFriberg okie doke
@PetterFriberg only ROs can talk in timeout:)
 
Yeah interesting, I never tested it before...
its a nice feature... need to use it more : )
ooh just 1500 records to move to correct feed .... :|
 
@AndrasDeak I didn't get ad hominem in that thread at any point of time BTW. Just scrutinized the overall value of that particular question.
 
your second comment on that thread
not exactly the best seed for reasonable discussion
 
12:33 PM
@AndrasDeak Is that really ad hominem or simply the truth?
 
it's ad hominem, true or not
these are not mutual characteristics
 
@AndrasDeak Well, okiliy dokily added to my improvement to do list.
 
:)
even if you said "this is a low quality question", it would be easy to get defensive about it (even though that would no longer be ad hominem)
 
@AndrasDeak We agree, Flanders is a mega butt, do we?
 
that reference is lost on me
 
12:35 PM
@AndrasDeak No experience from Simpsons?
 
only what I see on the internet
 
@AndrasDeak That's too narrow for having a life ;)
 
I think already your first comment started off on the wrong note. I know what you mean, especially if OP is prone to shitty questions and laziness. But still it would've avoided needless confrontation and penis-measuring contests if you would've rephrased it as "what exactly did you mean by NMS##::##vector<T>, why not just use NMS::vector<T>?" or something
I'm only saying this since you said you welcome helpful suggestions:P
in case you really don't see that you're being confrontative
 
@AndrasDeak It was just worth a Huh?? for me, but well, we always can take a better and higher road. Seems to be I'm particularly annoyed by this specific user. Insofar your ad hominem argument might be right.
 
I'm afraid so:)
 
12:40 PM
@AndrasDeak As mentioned, in improvement process. I really appreciate your insights.
 
FWIW you can be objective ad cool and still make OP look like an idiot, if that's your thing:D
just have to be more subtle about it
 
@AndrasDeak Yeah, somehow that's the intent :D
 
:D
can't blame you
 
@AndrasDeak I'll dig that. You really helped me. THX
 
no worries:)
 
12:44 PM
@AndrasDeak I'm all ears
 
there's a user in [matlab] who keeps asking horrible questions. But by sheer volume they have 31k rep now...mostly from mediocre questions. But as we know, +2-2 score is still positive rep
he keeps getting comments like this:
Again, you are using bad inputs. You are probably saving the heat maps to disk, then using GIMP you are equalizing the actual image data from that saved heat map that is representative of that signal, not the actual signal itself. As I keep telling you time and time again, you are using bad inputs. This will be my last message. — rayryeng Aug 2 at 19:19
@JanDvorak ^ :P
 
@JanDvorak You weren't at the wrong road at all ;)
 
comment threads on his question look like this:
user: what do you mean?
OP: something something
user: why not do X?
OP: something what? no, something
user: yes, you need to do X
OP: potato
user: just do X
2
 
If we're working on main/major tags, we meet such users all along. We need to develop strategies to bail these out permanently.
 
swift downvote/closure of their crappy questions should suffice, and possibly constructive comments if the question seems salvageable
when they occasionally ask proper questions, those should be left alone (easy to get carried away if a crappy user is on your radar)
 
12:50 PM
@AndrasDeak I have a feeling that's not enough in long term, but well
 
there's not really much we can do without starting flame wars:/
ideally these actions would repel useless users in the long run (modulo summer of love...)
 
@AndrasDeak Theres nothing we can do as mentioned ;)
 
I'll try to take the high road next time. No matter how much steam is blowing out from my ears reading their crap :)
 
Sweet. If you succeed, teach me.
 
12:56 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ good luck with that;)
 
@AndrasDeak I'm sure I can improve ;)
 
me too:D
the question is, will you?:P
but it's easier for everyone involved if you can do it in a more civil way, so I really am rooting for you
 
@AndrasDeak You know my avatar, so doing silly things with more energy is somewhat inherent :P
Higher rep needs to be drawn to bottom again. It comes with more responsibility
Drugs should be abandoned from business
<<<< Rolls a blunt now
 
1:16 PM
I have updated to queen to always feed comments with score >= 6 to room (the heat seems to be over), furthermore I have dumped the comments we had 1500 and will try to classify them tonight, creating a new feed. Any suggestions on regex (also low scoring) are appreciated.
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Time to go to the river for some fun, cya
@que test You are debi
 
@PetterFriberg [ Heat Detector ] SCORE: 1 ☆☆☆☆☆ (Regex:false NaiveBayes:0.83 OpenNLP:0.56)
 
hmm..
@que test You are debil
 
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1:21 PM
Hiya o/
 
@JanDvorak That tits, nice ;)
 
[ Heat Detector ] SCORE: 5 ★★☆☆☆ (Regex:false NaiveBayes:1.00 OpenNLP:0.97) comment cc: @PetterFriberg
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Can you find me an ugly female singer worth listening? Michael Jackson doesn't count.
 
@JanDvorak No problem with the look (see Helene Fisscher), its just the music that is subterraneously :P
 
What do you mean?
 
1:36 PM
@JanDvorak Well, Nina Simone isn't a classic beauty, but her music is unbeatable ;)
@JanDvorak I wouldn't kick her from my beds edge, unless she starts to sing :P
 
I'd disagree about the "unbeatable" part. I'm willing to not cut Nina off, but that's it.
 
@JanDvorak Nina Simone is unbeatable, not discussable PERIOD.
 
But good point about her visage, though ;-)
 
@JanDvorak She's not perfectly looking, but it doesn't count.
 
1:42 PM
Marylin Manson and Kiss are ugly as a sin, but not worth listening to.
 
@JanDvorak Regarding Marilyn Manson that's arguable. These are intelligent songs and probably worth listening, while Kiss just produced crap mainly.
@Jan Do you have a preferred style of music? (tits aside)
 
I've seen a Wisecrack theory saying Kanye West is actually a great philosopher.
I'm not a tit hunter.
 
@JanDvorak LOL
@JanDvorak Good so, good ones are rare anyways ;)
 
the nicest room on SO, great job, guys:D
 
*fistpump*
 
1:48 PM
@AndrasDeak Just bla bla throughout the day ;)
 
OK no she wasn't, I can't find the comment in DB @petter
 
@AndrasDeak Leave all that crap to the RO's to be tidied ;)
 
I am:P
moving messages to trash
 
meh
 
@AndrasDeak Sorry, I couldn't hold on
 
1:52 PM
??
 
What do you mean, ??
 
misclick flag?
 
that -----^
 
Well, hopefully @πάνταῥεῖ managed to click it in the mean time
 
@Jan Didn't get it
 
1:54 PM
... so you flagged it
 
@JanDvorak Yup
 
???
 
facepalm
 
wtf man
don't flag what isn't offensive
out-of-context nonsense is not a flaggable offense
 
@AndrasDeak OT or do we have fun actually here?
 
1:54 PM
You were pretty amused when I told you about the video, then freaked out when I pointed to it.
 
@πάνταῥεῖ come again?
 
Now apologise
 
@JanDvorak A flag doesn't mean freaking out, does it?
 
A flag means you want me to GTFO. A flag is a 30-minute kick from all chat rooms. Cumulative over multiple messages.
 
@AndrasDeak Okily dokiliy, Flanders is an asshole, aren't they?
@JanDvorak Okey, I'll refrain next time.
 
1:57 PM
I'm not going to get myself kicked because you didn't want to see a video you liked hearing about.
 
you can also ignore users
or ask them to un-onebox that shit
and if they don't, a RO can still bin it
 
There's no no-onebox rule here.
 
I really don't think rude flags are for signalling "I don't like this"
 
@AndrasDeak That was probably pushing the button.
 
@JanDvorak no, but it could be seen as intrusive by others
so while not forbidden, it can be a reasonable request from another user
 
1:59 PM
I'm enjoying everyone here actually, no offence.
 
bottom-line: chat flags are like spam / rude flags on main. use only when strictly necessary and warranted
 
solely based on courtesy, not rules
 
so, what's the no-onebox rule here?
 
@Tunaki Okily dokily
 
@JanDvorak There isn't per se.
 
2:00 PM
So, did I do something wrong, or not?
 
@JanDvorak Just for mentioning Kayne West probably ;)
 
@JanDvorak I don't think so
I wouldn't one-box Kanye, but only because he makes my skin crawl
 
@JanDvorak No, you're Okey. It was my fault
 
but if πάνταῥεῖ were to ask you to un-onebox it, you probably should (but that's my personal opinion based on courtesy)
 
@JanDvorak Nope.
 
2:02 PM
@AndrasDeak don't worry, he doesn't sing there, they just talk about him.
 
@JanDvorak way too much Kanye anyway:P
 
aye
 
@JanDvorak That might be even worse :(
 
I wouldn't touch his CDs with a one-meter stick
 
So lets get back for tits again (nerds special): youtube.com/watch?v=ZiW0ljTptfo
:)
 
2:06 PM
Shall we go back to good music? Celtic Woman - Destiny is one of my favourites.
 
@JanDvorak Celtic music is usually good, long time tradition
There are a number of bad bands trying to hop at the long gone train though: youtube.com/…
 
@πάνταῥεῖ She's not bad IMO. Also, great nature shots.
 
@JanDvorak I don't like it actually. Too much cliché
 
OK, great nature in the shots :-D
Also, she's a singer, not a band ;-)
 
@JanDvorak Windows 10 welcomes me with better ones everyday. And I'm missing tits :P
 
2:13 PM
@πάνταῥεῖ agreed. I prefer my computer to never log me out, though.
 
@jan I don't know if that calls for celtic but is honest and solid: ganes-music.com
@JanDvorak Which person is wrongly placed in this picture?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ nice
@πάνταῥεῖ They're all siblings, you'd be hard pressed to get John out ;-)
 
@JanDvorak Yup, the're amazing
@JanDvorak Well, from the average intelligence test, he's got no tits (even mine are more ;P)
 
I guess you like the bodysuit closeups (I'm currently watching Kostner)?
 
@JanDvorak I'm cumming on these of course ;)
 
2:20 PM
TMI
But yes, I can see why
 
Tits are overrated at all :P
^Let's agree on that
 
Just today I've been thinking there should be more women's horseriding
 
@JanDvorak Women ride horses all the time? What do you mean?
Happy to be a horse :D
 
The jockeys were standing during the horse rides I saw, and they were shot from behind
 
@Jan Jockeys are weird dwarfs of a different kind.
Women just love to ride their horses
 
2:29 PM
As long as they don't have a beard...
 
*coming*
...
*leaving*
when did this room become The Lounge?:D
 
@AndrasDeak sorry :-/ Let's change the topic.
 
meh, you're grown men:)
or at least men
 
@AndrasDeak It was probably my fault, sorry
 
"grown up", or "adult"?
 
2:32 PM
either:P
although as long as @Tunaki or @Kyll doesn't protest more than "meh", I'm fine
 
@JanDvorak Grown up means nothing, adult is the key :)
 
they're much gentler men than I
 
@AndrasDeak Meh
 
How about "of legal age"?
 
@AndrasDeak Meh
 
2:33 PM
cool, cool
 
The French has spoken
 
and Petter's in the river
 
Plop!
 
plop:)
 
...plop?
 
2:34 PM
! qolq
 
Relevant XKCD: xkcd.com/1137
 
@Kyll Do you have a pic of a sexy squirrel at hand?
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Sure, hold on
Here you go
Can't get any sexier.
 
@Kyll Expected that, guess what :D
 
Is that a ... onebox?
 
2:36 PM
no that's a spearrel.
 
@JanDvorak Nope, it's a sexy squirrel
 
^
 
@JanDvorak Oneboxes are tolerated for having enough tits and sexy squirrels here it seems ;)
 
Is it OK to onebox K.W. if he's photoshopped bigger breasts?
 
@Kyll I'm almost cummin' hun :P
 
2:44 PM
hum, I'll say no
 
@πάνταῥεῖ Yeah no >.>
 
@Kyll I'll hold it back ;)
 
 
1 hour later…
3:54 PM
Sounds like a job for @burnaki — πάντα ῥεῖ 13 secs ago
 
@πάνταῥεῖ the bot monitors, it doesn't do anything apart that
 
@Tunaki I well know.
Burninating sounds like a heavy job.
 
Yes, it does.
 
J F
@Tunaki Should I create a room for Burnaki & ?
 
Hey @JF. I'm not sure why the bot was mentioned but you can read all about it here stackapps.com/questions/7027/…
 
J F
4:00 PM
@Tunaki Thanks. I read that just now.
 
@Tunaki I mentioned it because it became helpful for burninating the tag.
 
@JF It's a project I started which tracks progress of burnination efforts and sends notifications in chat room. Do note that it doesn't do anything on the site (it won't retag or anything), it supervises the effort.
 
J F
@Tunaki It looks very useful!
 
@Tunaki ^Yeah you matured it towards the end
 
J F
Do tags with only closed questions get deleted?
 
4:09 PM
What do you mean?
 
@JF Burninating is to remove tags in 1st place. Closing questions is a side effect.
 
J F
@Tunaki If I edit all of the questions (removing the tag, and fixing them in other ways) that are still open, will the tag get removed by the script?
 
A tag gets removed automatically if there are no questions with it, yes. There's a script that runs daily for this.
 
@JF As @tunaki mentioned, the bot isn't active in any manner.
 
J F
@πάνταῥεῖ I mean the system script that deletes the tags.
@Tunaki Do deleted & closed questions count in "no questions"?
 
4:14 PM
Deleted questions don't count, but closed questions do.
 
J F
OK.
 
it would be nuts if deleted ones would count:)
 
 
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5:39 PM
hey
 
6:01 PM
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fp but no feedback
 
6:39 PM
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Is Queen detecting spam, now?
 
@Queen fp
@JanDvorak no why?
@Burn stop
 
Bye.
Hiya o/
 
Hey Burn, enjoyed the reboot?
 
hey @Burnaki
 
6:42 PM
Unknown command: hey. Use commands to have a list of commands.
 
aloha @PetterFriberg
 
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@Tunaki Don't think so can't find it SELECT * FROM SOCVFinder.comments_batch3 where link like '%39282999%';
 
[ Heat Detector ] SCORE: 4 ★★☆☆☆ (Regex:false NaiveBayes:0.97 OpenNLP:0.99) comment cc: @PetterFriberg
 
@PetterFriberg yeah me neither
@Queen fp
 
6:58 PM
I have moved the old comments to batch3, since ) have exported the stuff, trying to review what to included in good and waht in new bad feed
@que test That is a crazy way to handle this. Disable virtual store? Why don't you get your environment to handle UAC. Only 10 years behind the times! Obviously you are coming from the back of the grid with Delphi 3 but that's no excuse to pretend that the last 10 years did not happen.
 
@PetterFriberg [ Heat Detector ] SCORE: 2 ★☆☆☆☆ (Regex:false NaiveBayes:0.01 OpenNLP:0.96)
 
Yeah it would not be caught
@ColdFire Hiya
 
@PetterFriberg whatsup?
 
not much, time to see a movie and gather some energy to go through all these comments..
@Tuna but we have some tp on user
 
ok enjoy
 
 
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8:09 PM
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9:02 PM
@burn stop
 
Bye.
 

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