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11:17 AM
Hard to believe, but this is the hottest question on StackExchange right now:
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Q: Difference between CC and To e-mail

JackIn Gmail (and I guess other web mail) you can send an e-mail to multiple recipients in the TO: field by separating addresses by semi-colon. You can also use CC to send a copy to other people. Is there any difference between the two? Do mail programs behave differently depending on whether you C...

 
haha
shame they didnt get on to bcc
 
11:42 AM
I just answered this question:
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A: The hourly mean in time series

Paul HiemstraLet's first generate some example data: time_series = runif(72) The next step would be to change the structure of the dataset from a 1d vector, to a 2d matrix, this saves you a lot of having to deal with indices and such: time_matrix = matrix(time_series, 24, 3) and use apply to calculate t...

I solved the problem in two different ways
using a matrix and apply
and using ts and tapply/aggregate
the latter inspired by:
I was wondering if anyone could comment on using plyr functions with ts objects to calculate these kinds of averages
 
I see you are holding out for a green tick from a newbie user with rep=6 and no proper username...
 
One can always try...
always good to educate people :)
in regard to my plyr + ts question
the paper by hadley does not mention ts(): jstatsoft.org/v40/i01/paper
 
12:06 PM
Please help close a duplicate of the question @PaulHiemstra just answered. stackoverflow.com/questions/12058970/…
 
hmm, technically the question I answer is a duplicate of that question
because that question was asked earlier
ow, I see, it is by the same user
I also answered that question with a short summary of the other
using aggregate and tapply
and voted to close
 
Working hard. :) I'm off to lunch!
 
12:22 PM
@PaulHiemstra does anything by hadley mention anything other than things by hadley? where did he ever start?
 
In the beginning there was hadley, and hadley was hadley
then hadley said
 
Does anyone else think the "flag this message as spam" icon on chat messages looks too much like a quote mark? Leading me to click it when I want to quote someone...
 
let there be hadley ;)
 
let there be hadley_wickham
thats his name on his birth certificate
 
and hadley saw it was good
 
1:17 PM
and he did create the packages in six days, and on the seventh day he rested and only wrote two packages.
 
and then he got to work writing new packages to replace the existing mess of functions, none of which contained an underscore. So he added underscores, thus turning gsub into str_replace_all. And the world was good.
 
and then Satan created data.table, which was much faster, but did not share in any of the syntactic beauty
 
2:24 PM
Hello, hasn't a very similar question been asked a week ago? stackoverflow.com/questions/12074644/…
 
It doesn't really look similar
 
@DirkEddelbuettel Just wanted to say 'Nice job!' on the useR! slides setup (pts I-IV); thanks for sharing.
 
2:47 PM
Is there a packaged version of Tufte's slope graphs? charliepark.org/slopegraphs
here is a ggplot version from last year, but its a little kludgy
 
@Thell Pleasure.
 
can't let R get beaten by stata: pastie.org/private/no94bdylb2l14eo5myiaa
 
3:09 PM
One of these days Hadley's gonna swing by this chat room and smite the lot of us. All that will be left will be a giant smoldering underscore.
 
I think I just saw a new package annihilate_so_chatroom appear at his github repo
 
hehe
I didn't quite get how he is moving to RStudio - he's got a full-time job with them?
 
It'll take a while to run though, so don't worry too much about it.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel Presumably I shouldn't worry because annihilate_so_chatroom will be so slow that there will be ample time for me to escape.
 
@Spacedman I can't wait to see what kind of 'public' role this training and education push will bring to RStudio.
I'd rather they contract @DirkEddelbuettel for a little more Rcpp lovin' :D
 
3:35 PM
@Thell Did you see the most recent preview notes at rstudio.org/download/preview ? JJ has put some love in...
 
OMG! Rock on! /me downloading
Can't believe that... been running dev/preview for months (knitr/sweave/etc...) then when I see it is part of the regular build I switched to the normal release...
And then I miss that?!?!? LOL, can't even recall how long ago I made the c++ syntax request.
 
3:56 PM
Uh-oh
CRAN removals: lattice http://goo.gl/Z4FQ6 #rstats
 
@DirkEddelbuettel so where do you go to find out the 'why'?
 
@DirkEddelbuettel errr.... what?
How did that come about?
 
I hope that is an error condition in CRANberries. The page at CRAN is still up.
 
Well... it is still there in CRAN
Doh
Yep
 
@Thell There is no why. CRAN's communication style is schooled on the one of the Kremlin of the cold war period.
 
4:02 PM
How nice.
 
Comes with a money-back guarantee though.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel I don't know if it was mentioned here before, but no sign of lattice at cran.r-project.org/web/packages/…
 
oh mother dear we sadly fear our kitten has been lost
@JorisMeys CRANberries uses available.packages() so that would rhyme
 
Interesting case...
I actually jumped in to demonstrate my lack of R knowledge and my absolute laziness. Do I understand it right that when a package is loaded, the namespace is loaded but non-exported functions are not attached to the search path?
so that when an exported function foo() tries to find an S3 method (like foo.default() ) that is not exported, it just won't find it?
 
guuuys... go here: http://r-forge.r-project.org/R/?group_id=339
you see rmgarch failed to build, and so it's not possible neither to download .zip or R install command. Then I was wondering: if someone did not download previous version he has no way to get it, right?
 
4:14 PM
Stata... <shudders>
@user1584009 Wrong. You can always check out the source from svn and build it yourself.
 
@user1584009 They can go to r-forge.r-project.org/scm/viewvc.php/?root=rgarch and download the repository to build it
hi Joshua, beating me in speed again?
 
Hi @JorisMeys, yes. Speed kills.
 
and age kills speed aparently :-)
 
brake, guys :) I see 'scm' on top right of the page, what should I do once I'm in there?
 
4:16 PM
I'm getting old
 
@JoshuaUlrich @JorisMeys
 
@user1584009 This is not a help desk.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel ok, then do not help me :)
 
@user1584009 Checkout the source by following the directions and searching for things you don't understand. Then read ?build.
 
thx
 
4:18 PM
@JorisMeys I thought you were younger than me... my memory starting to fade. ;)
 
Since someone has to say it: clearly Hadley is behind lattice's disappearance.
 
@user1584009 Better option: contact the author of the package ( r-forge.r-project.org/users/alexios1175 ) and ask him if he has a previous version or so. As the current one doesn't build, well...
 
@JorisMeys I doubt that's a better option. I bet he'd tell @user1584009 to checkout and build from source.
@GSee Ugh, how did I forget that masterpiece!?!?!?
 
Not because people stopped asking...
 
4:21 PM
thx 2 everyone
 
You need to ask Stephan if he can put a link to that question on the "R packages" pages.
 
@JoshuaUlrich, were you built before or after 1977 ?
 
@JorisMeys I'm a 1981 model.
 
Beat you by 4 years then, kiddy :-)
 
I know. I looked up your model year on your profile.
And then I laughed, "muhwahahahahahaha!"
 
4:23 PM
You'll get there
I'm still looking for somebody that can confirm that a S3 generic (useMethod and all...) won't find a non-exported S3 method when a namespace is used and the method is not explicitly indicated by using S3method() in the namespace. I say it can't find it, my colleague claims he never had trouble with it.
so do I have the trouble because I don't understand digested food (sorry for the swearing), or has my colleague a case of divine intervention on his processors?
 
I think an S3 generic in a non-exported namespace when there is an S4 generic included as a Depends: in the DESCRIPTION can't be found if and only if the exported generic's S4 method signature is covered by a non-recursive reference class method with an exported namespace in a package.
 
@JorisMeys Well, the package page is there cran.r-project.org/web/packages/lattice/index.html And the checks only turn up NOTEs on global bindings, so I guess it was a glitch in the index building. I hope.
 
@Spacedman but that's not the case. I have only a few S3 methods in that package, nothing even close to S4, and when I load the package using library(thepackage), and use my function foo() which is the S3 generic (containing nothing but the obligatory UseMethod ), it can't even find foo.default() (which is not exported).
I believe that is because the namespace itself is not attached to the search path, and (but I can be terribly wrong), the S3 dispatching system goes through the search path. So that would explain the need to use S3method in the NAMESPACE file (which the original author didn't).
@BrianDiggs Hope so too. We'll see pretty quick I believe
 
Re: lattice. (@BrianDiggs, @JorisMeys, etc.) Are you sure it's still there on CRAN? available.packages(...)["lattice",] is OK for http://probability.ca/cran but not for contriburl=contrib.url("http://cran.r-rproject.org") (unless I screwed something up)
 
@JorisMeys Let me reiterate. The S3 method of the generic of the despatch of the S4 generic of the method in the export of the namespace of the generic is a method of the generic in the namespace of the object,
 
4:37 PM
@BenBolker Saw so too, but install.packages("lattice", repos="http://cran.r-project.org") works perfectly fine.
 
[I thought you might get half way through the second line before realising it was gobbledegook!]
 
@Spacedman ah. Where's my coffee?
 
@JorisMeys -- OK, hope it's just a glitch. (I see from reading past comments that this has already been covered, more or less. Sorry for the noise.) It would certainly be nice to have a "why"/"comment" field somewhere for package removals/archiving ...
 
Would I make my question a real one on SO? It's not really a programming question, and I don't really have a problem that can't be solved by S3Method(..., ...) in the namespace file. But still...
 
4:56 PM
@BenBolker CRANberries feeds of Vienna's master CRAN site so it would 'lead' in the temporal sense. available.package() appears to show it missing.
 
5:21 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel; RStudio... build and reload rcpp goodness! Yum. Who knows... maybe I'll stop relying on inline so much.
 
 
3 hours later…
8:13 PM
Looks like an indexing error at CRAN as I do see lattice 0.20-10 here: cran.r-project.org/src/contrib/lattice_0.20-10.tar.gz
And maybe that version need r-devel or r-patched and hence by r-release version comes up empty on available.packages()
 
Has anybody used Hadley's memoise package in anger?
 
What is it supposed to help with again?
Besides supplying underscores?
 
It caches function results, so if a function is called with same arguments, it returns values from cache.
No underscores :-)
It uses digest to create / look up the unique keys.
 
double-plus useful then :)
 
So must be good.
 
8:17 PM
must be; digest has a pretty 3l33t pedigree :)
 
8:55 PM
is that similar to the SOAR package? @DirkEddelbuettel perhaps that deserves a mention on HPC Task View?
I see the difference, should have looked already
@DirkEddelbuettel still, looks like SOAR is a HPC candidate
for the "Large memory and out-of-memory data" section
 
not sure I agree
not every trick to save a byte or two is a candidate; the page is already sprawling
 
fair enough, now that I think about it there are lots of "out-of-memory" tricks on CRAN
 

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