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1:40 AM
Wow. Can't believe that there's a blog post with the subject involving my mom. What's wrong with that guy?
 
@Shane Maybe your mom is a good SEO technique?
 
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In other news, I see that DS responded.
 
1:56 AM
I've had more than enough drama for the day.
 
2:19 AM
@Shane Twice even
 
@DirkEddelbuettel I have an R question for you...
 
Sure. I'll try ...
 
DEoptim uses R's RNG. Should the evaluate function call PutRNGstate() before eval'ing the R function and then SetRNGstate() afterward?
I sometimes have issues if it doesn't, but I'm not sure what's going on.
 
I am quite familiar with that :) and am about to email back to you guys as I'm about ready to release 'RcppDE' in a few or so -- so you you guys should get a first look because of the heritage and all.
 
Is that going to be in Rcpp?
 
2:26 AM
As for PutRNGState() : if there is no call to RNGs, it's a (costly) null ops.
@JoshuaUlrich It 'lives' in Rcpp's R-Forge project just like RcppArmadillo, RcppExamples, a project of Romain's, a project of John Chamber illustrating ReferenceClasses etc -- and that makes sense as it was an Rcpp performance case study.
I have run gazillions runs of evaluate -- now as either an R or C++ function -- and never needed Get/PutRNGState() in evaluate. You need it in other places, but your 2.0.7 had that already.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel I guess I was wondering more if you were going to release to CRAN, but since I see that it's already on R-forge... I can connect the dots.
@DirkEddelbuettel So if your objective function needs the RNG, you need to call them there?
If so, how do you do that in R?
 
I will. It is a faster drop-in replacement, and now at steady state as I look at an OpenMP variant based on it (and with that I have a METRIC TON of troubles). So time is right to release the building block RcppDE.
Drop-in replacement and extension b/c of the compiled objective function -- a real good reason for Rcpp too. But I am otherwise (a little) faster as well.
@JoshuaUlrich Yes, if your objective function were to randomize you'd need to I suppose.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel Hmm, I can't figure out where I'm missing that...
 
Missing what?
 
setting the seed
 
2:41 AM
I think we have unittest examples, hold on
 
It has to be something stupid I'm doing in my objective function.
 
ok, I am not longer sure that I know what your question is and how I can help you.
How do you optimise a randomized objective function with a stochastic search algorithm anyway?
 
Sorry, my question would be more clear if I weren't as confused.
 
Is that what Ralph Vince's stuff? ;-)
 
I use DEoptim in the LSPM package. The objective function in LSPM::optimalf can accept a drawdown constraint calculated by the LSPM::probDrawdown function, which uses random permutations of returns to calculate drawdown.
The first execution of optimalf with a drawdown constraint runs fine. If you try to run it again in the same session, no randomization occurs.
 
2:47 AM
Can you abstract a smaller problem out of it -- where you call in loops, use the same functions for seeds, rng calls etc and see if you get consistent randomness across repeated calls there?
 
yeah, I did that, but I can't find it...
Can you help me search my computer? ;-)
 
It sounds like you have a 'PutRNGState()' too many. You always reset back to a state you initially stored RNG state and push that back and back and back.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel You may not feel like you helped, but you pointed me in the right direction. Thanks.
 
@JoshuaUlrich Pleasure. There is nothing like code talk over a virtual beer in front of a virtual fireplace. And now the not-so-virtual pinhead AO gets to write an exciting new blog post about how progress is being made. Hooray.
 
3:07 AM
Where do I get some of this virtual beer?
 
I switched to Bourbon somewhere around the time I realized I need to migrate all my analytic db tables over the next 2 days
not virtual bourbon, however
 
@DirkEddelbuettel It looks like it's a problem if you call get/setRNGstate without calling a function that uses them. Does that sound right?
 
No, look at permute. It calls them too.
 
but it uses unif_rand
My code uses unif_rand, but in an if statement
 
@JoshuaUlrich Oh I misread. You problem if you prepare but do not call?
Maybe. Test it by calling unif_rand in an else block -- easy enough.
 
3:18 AM
I just put each get/setRNG after an if, which seems to fix it, but I don't understand why.
Perhaps the unif_rand function does something to the seed?
 
3:39 AM
Next question: should I use a different RNG if I'm going to be calling it on multiple nodes at the same time?
 
@JoshuaUlrich Sure. Seeds are a state. It advances them. You need to take care of this at the C++ level so that you get the same sequences you'd get at the R level. We test that rigorously in Rcpp unit tests.
@JoshuaUlrich What are nodes? Do you mean parallel work?
 
@DirkEddelbuettel Yes
I seem to recall that parallel work requires special care when it comes to RNG
Hence, SPRNG
 
@JoshuaUlrich The general recommendation (cf snow and all the HPC stuff) is to use one of either the rlecuyer or rsprng packages to get suitable initial seeds on all nodes to minimise overlap which would bias.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel Excellent; thanks!
 
That is multicore or snow to distribute the lspm stuff to different nodes, each of which gets one lspm/deoptim problem?
 
3:48 AM
Right now it's just the LSPM::probDrawdown function that uses snow to split the permutations evenly across all available nodes (e.g. 4mm permutations -> 2mm to each core on my dual-core CPU).
and I'm using snow
 
I wouldn't obsess over the RNG init. Snow does the right if you call its handler. That's all. Just don't call set.seed(N) on both nodes with the same N -- snow knows better.
Better even than some random N1 and N2. That is what RSPRNG and rlecuyer do.
Got the RcppDE mail?
 
I don't call set.seed(), but I do call GetRNGstate in the C code.
 
set.seed() is the R part one calls before.
Before going to C that is.
 
4:02 AM
No, I don't do any of that. I just send a simple R function to the nodes (via clusterApply) that contains a .Call()
@DirkEddelbuettel Yes, but I probably won't have a good chance to look it over until this weekend.
 
@JoshuaUlrich Well R is setting a seed for you then. You just chose to not produce reproducible results by relying on random seeds from the clock...
@JoshuaUlrich No worries.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel Would it be better to use call clusterSetupRNG?
 
Yup
So say the snow-masters
 
Is that the handler you were referring to?
 
4:08 AM
This learning stuff is hard. So much to keep up with.
 
That gets you a) decent RNGs stream that should not overlap and b) back to deterministic results. Two runs --> same results, even with snow etc pp.
@JoshuaUlrich That;s what the days are so long ;-)
Anyway -- I'll wrap it up now for the day. Hope is was of some help.
 
Speaking of long days... I'm going to bed so I can get up and play some hockey in the morning.
@DirkEddelbuettel Yes, you were very helpful. Thank you.
 
 
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2:29 PM
RcppDE? Neat. Will take a look at that.
 
Will release in a while once the good DEoptim folks get a look at it. Otherwise on R-Forge inside Rcpp and you have the URL for the current tarball if you so please.
Will write a vignette illustrating the 'porting C to C++/Rcpp case study' it is.
Nobody commenting on the continuing fireworks on the rcpp-devel list? ;-)
 
I need to find time to read it. Just read your back and forth with Rainer, which was also entertaining.
 
Romain was en fuego,
 
"Unimpressed and bored by all this"...nice.
He just responded again!?
Oh wow. This guy is officially a loony.
I think your practice of ignoring him may have been the best choice in the long run.
 
@Shane But every now and then you need to set the record straight. (Haven't read his latest yet, responding off list to Rainer, again ....)
 
2:45 PM
He's just begging for attention.
FWIW I think the record is clear. We can easily see the SVN logs for the existing Rcpp package. And I see no evidence of any work done by DS in the past two years. His RcppTemplate package doesn't even exist any more.
 
@Shane His last post is poor. I already responded to what he claims -- my README having the 'may' Romain also set him straight on.
 
Yep. And he makes these claims about doing a diff. Why the heck doesn't he do that?
The only logical reason is that he knows it's not true.
He's incredibly immature and disingenuous. I've never seen anything like it.
 
@Shane Feel to add that to the list, calmly and clearly. If you look in cxxpack/Archive/ on CRAN you see the old Rcpp and RcppTemplate release. Re-explain rotting to him is you feel like it.
I do of course understand that you may prefer not to get involved in this pissng match. Just saying -- the more the merrier.
 
I started to write that, but then decided that I didn't want my google history to include this. :)
I still may...
 
2:50 PM
That's cool. Never saw that archive before.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel If you get enough people involved, you may be able to take a swim...
 
@Shane It had to use Ancestry/ because it can't be in Archive/ of cxxPack and Kurt felt it didn't belong in Archive/ of Rcpp, for some odd reason ;-)
or rather it uses Ancestry/ to show it relates to cxxPack or some such.
 
Ok. I made a brief comment.
Hopefully this thread will die at some point...
 
"in every Rcpp source file": Nope, only the ones descending from his API
Very nice post otherwise
Of course thanks!! for the public roses!
 
Are you kidding? Wish I could do more, given the amount of amazing stuff that you contribute!
Sorry for the inaccuracy. I had seen his name mentioned in a source file, and have subsequently stopped looking as closely at the headers.
He's certainly mentioned in the description.
(which is the most publicly viewed credit anyway)
 
3:04 PM
Yup. And the main Rcpp.html, and and and
 
When you google his name, the first result is on your website. Enough said.
"working cooperatively on this seems to be out of the question"?
Did he ever ask to contribute to your existing package?
 
3:22 PM
We were coauthors on RQuantLib for quite some time. I repeatedly invited him to Rcpp when I put it on R-Forge (eight month before first new releases) etc pp
It was painful to work with him as he only ever sent tarballs. Diff and patch are not his friends.
But we did. Rcpp really was part of his key contribution to RQuantLib
 
3:42 PM
Wow. Romain with another knockout punch.
 
@Shane Don't cross him ;-)
 
4:05 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel Do you do remote desktop login from Windows to Debian? If so, what do you use?
 
@Shane throwing in my $0.02: I've not used it from Windows to Deb, but I use FreeNX from Ubuntu to Ubuntu remote. It was harder to set up than I anticipated, but I like it.
 
@Shane Not regularly any more as I have no real work on Windows -- it's all on the Linux servers. But I just walked a colleague through the KDE frontend krdc (which wraps vnc + rdp). There are a gazillion more. krdc is nice -- you can clip all windows borders to with the 1280x1024 dual screens at home I could (when I needed it) have one fully onto Windows and you would not see one pixel.
@JDLong I looked at FreeNX and OpenNX and ...NX at times in the past and the Linux server end never looked clear.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel clear as in having compression artifacts, etc?
 
@Shane Sorry -- misread the quesion. I just so 'startxin.bat' or 'startxwin.sh' from Cygwin and do 'ssh -X a.real.computer' and it's all X11 after that. Cygwin finally got good enough for that a while back.
@JDLong Clear as in having sensible and comprehensible server setups. I have gotten used to some levels of quality in 15+ years with Debian and this didn't have it, sadly. I haven;'t looked since Google adopted parts of the NX stack. Did they do something for serving from Linux in a sane manner? We would have use for that at work (as would gazillion other enterprises....)
 
@DirkEddelbuettel it's really tough for me to contrast. I just ran across it a week or so ago (being rather new to Linux servers, etc.) I started fighting with it and eventually got it up and running thanks to much google foo and a bit of tenacity. For text editing I still prefer ssh -X and get a more native experience. But since I like some of the GUI tools for administration, etc. I often remote in via FreeNX.
 
4:21 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel Thanks...that's basically what I do too, but I was wondering if there was more of a VNC kind of solution. It looks like it might be possible with RealVNC (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RealVNC). Might investigate a little further.
Wow....seriously don't cross Romain.
 
@Shane what's the network between the systems? internet? local network?
 
@JDLong Sure but I get graphics too with x11. Including from home thanks to VPN. Then its even Linux (home) to Linux (work) with no Windoze in between.
 
Local (or VPN).
 
@Shane for local, I prefer VNC. Over internet I prefer NX because it seems to compress a little better. But I suspect if I spent time tweaking VNC the difference would be minimal. Main difference was with NX I could drag the corner of a window and resize the desktop. With VNC the desktop dimension is set and is harder to change dynamically.
@DirkEddelbuettel that's true. In my experience (and without knowing how to tweak things) I found remote access over internet using straight X11 to be sluggish because of the lack of compression
of course when I started experimenting with all this I had pretty crappy home DSL. I've since upgraded so I might think differently now.
 
@JDLong Me too when I still used dial-up.
x11 always compresses when you use ssh, by the way
but yes, NX is better than VNC which as a protocol and tool is too crude for words, but at least it'
s everywhere
Seriously: the sluggishness is the graph rendering on the windows desktop. Linux to Linux x11 is a breeze. Remember Sun's old slogan about the network being the computer. This is how it all started. X11 is a network protocol too.
Wow. Romain en fuego, as I said.
 
4:32 PM
Yep. But he's "under a spell".
 
I obviously pay better, the recruiting and all that.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel well your logic has prompted me to run experiments from home again. Is it possible to have an X window that shows the desktop environment (menus, taskbars, etc) the way one sees with VNC/NX?
 
@JDLong Possibly -- I just export emacsclient, or inside R an x11(), or ...
You'd have to learn about window managers, maybe xvfb can do it too. Dunno.
 
yeah, I presumed as much. Though I would ask in case you had experimented.
 
Ask the Ubuntu fanboys, Maybe you can re-export the Plasma desktop and/or netbook (that's the KDE / Kubuntu lineage I use).
 
4:37 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel I kinda got to the point where I had a working solution so I stopped thinking about it... that's my typical work pattern.
 
@JDLong Funny...it seems like you're always experimenting with the latest and greatest?
:)
 
DS is insane. Romain just calmy explained how nothing should depend on GNU make, in he storms saying what to with make. Does he have a reading comprehension problem?
 
The funny thing is that DS is fairly smart. This is not like an AO or Tal situation.
 
@Shane yeah I'm a tinkerer. It's an affliction, I think. If I had been born 60 years earlier I guess I would have had to have tinker on cars.
 
@JDLong It's important to keep current, especially as we become old foggies.
 
4:49 PM
@Shane yeah, good to not accumulate too much 'technological scar tissue' ;)
 
Or is this just the "Dopeler Effect"?
 
the thought had crossed my mind
 
5:12 PM
@Shane what's the deal with allowing R programming questions on stats?
OOP tutorials, HPC, etc.
 
It's basically allowed. I typically suggest that they ask on SO instead, if it's strictly programming related.
But the decision was made early on to allow them and not overly police it since there are statistical languages that don't have an SO community.
We're creating a migration path now, so in the future I may just migrate those questions over to SO.
(probably within the next week)
 
@Shane that's a good idea. I like the migration path as opposed to the 'big stick'
 
Just seems weird to allow strictly technical questions on a statistics site.
 
morning y'all
 
@JoshuaUlrich I agree. It just becomes a little less clear with SAS, SPSS, etc.
 
5:24 PM
@AndrewRedd g' morning!
 
@Shane I would tell SAS, SPSS, etc. users to contact the customer support they pay for.
:)
 
wow some funny stuff in my inbox this morning. How long is DS going to stay on this soapbox of ":=" vs "="?
 
@AndrewRedd My guess? Forever.
 
@Shane Me too
Did you guys catch Romain's suggestion of him re-releasing as RcppWasMyIdea
I am still giggling about that
 
Has he gone off on these little tirades before?
 
5:29 PM
Wife and kids at home have our running jokes about 'windows sept c'etait mon idee' ...
@AndrewRedd Try some google search for Samperi and various R mailing lists as eg r-devel
 
@DirkEddelbuettel From the commercials?
 
Italian Village is calling my name. Off to lunch. Catch you guys later.
 
@JoshuaUlrich what's wrong with having R questions of the stats site?
 
@AndrewRedd When they have no relevance to data analysis and are pure programming questions, it would seem like SO is a better site.
 
5:32 PM
@AndrewRedd Nothing wrong with stats-related R questions. Questions about OOP tutorials for R seems like noise.
 
Should probably migrate the question then
 
We don't have the power to do that yet; it's in the works.
 
@Shane Ah... that explains a lot then.
 
@JoshuaUlrich Right. The top question on meta on stats is currently on the migration question.
 
@JoshuaUlrich Where those recent? OOP, HPC, ... haven't seen that at stats.se.com in a while. Or maybe I getting senile from all the DS beating I am getting.
 
5:46 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel both were yesterday
 
@JoshuaUlrich Ah yes. Well the 'HPC' was cross-posted spam from a naive newbie trying to gather a master's these -- he was also on sever r-* lists.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel Yes, notice my "exact duplicate" comment with a link to R-help.
 
@JoshuaUlrich And the OO clearly deserves to be moved so kudos to our benevolent overlord Shane
 
Yep. I think I'm going to bow out of the upcoming elections for moderators. I don't have enough time/interest for it at this point.
BTW. You will notice that we specify in the FAQ that programming questions should go to SO: stats.stackexchange.com/faq.
 
6:11 PM
An R question: Are any of you using lubridate? I've been meaning to look at it for a while, but haven't set aside the time. Really want to find something better than difftime.
 
@Shane I can't get past the name... that and I use xts.
 
But, you can't do date math with xts, can you?
I know that it has other kinds of subset functions.
 
@Shane I'm the JSS Editor on it so I've read the paper a few times. I like it.
 
But I frequently need to deal with time spans and date arithmetic.
 
But I haven't used it yet either.
 
6:16 PM
Was there a JSS article? Must have missed that. Should go look it up...
 
@JoshuaUlrich Orthogonal. It makes some POSIXct and Date calcs saner. A lot even. Check out Table 1 in the vignette (aka JSS submission)
@Shane In the queue.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel Didn't know that you were a JSS editor?
 
@Shane Now you do. It's pretty public info: jstatsoft.org/editors
Maybe I should invite DS to join. Oh wait ...
 
@DirkEddelbuettel where can I find the vignette? It's not on CRAN.
 
@JoshuaUlrich I stand corrected. Try github then: github.com/hadley/lubridate/tree/master/paper
No pdf though. Hmpf. That may make my copy non-public.
 
6:24 PM
@DirkEddelbuettel Because you're special. ;-)
 
@JoshuaUlrich Well aren't we all ;-)
 
Well, if it's on github as source, then it's public (IMO).
 
I am currently consulting with the author of ProjectTemplate to see if this interpretation of the acts of Hadley aka the Chosen One are taken to be the new law.
 
 
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7:45 PM
It's so quiet. Back from a mtg, no new messages, no new DS outbursts, ...
 
nothing but crickets.
 
8:19 PM
Want to exercise your #rstats skills while learning applied data science in industry? Join the #RevolutionR: http://bit.ly/cx1Y2L
 
"drug discovery" I know some folks who are into that.
 
@Shane Are you trying to get David in here again?
 
well with the link obscured behind bit.ly I bet it will take a couple of hours for David to come by
 
@JDLong He posted a link to the tweet... I thought.
 
@JoshuaUlrich he did... but with bit.ly it's harder to get a click through summary (I think). With your own domain you can look at the logs and see where the origination is
actually I've never tried to track that through bit.ly. If you have your own bit.ly account it may be one of the data points they give
 
8:23 PM
@JDLong I bow to your web-scale knowledge.
 
@JoshuaUlrich you may kiss the ring
it's around here somewhere...
 
@JDLong "I'm not worthy! I'm not worthy!"
(subtle Wayne's World reference)
 
absolutely! I love waynes world
i just got output from a BI system in the form of a PDF scan of a print out from someone's laser printer. I think I am going to cry.
 
@JDLong I've seen a database with screenshots of Excel files... used for version control.
 
@JoshuaUlrich stop it. I have to sleep tonight.
plus you're distracting me while I keypunch these values in...
 
8:31 PM
@JoshuaUlrich Wow
@Shane I wonder if AO will apply to Revo.
 
@DirkEddelbuettel no doubt.
 
Am I the only one who thinks that "data science" is bunk?
 
@Shane I'm of mixed mind. I like the idea of acknowledging that there's a set of skills around working with and thinking about data. But I don't think "data science" really captures it right.
But I am glad that one profession is not grabbing the "data science" and saying it's a synonym for them. I watched the actuarial societies try to do that some.
 
@Shane I don't.
 
8:51 PM
'Lo everyone.
@shane Did you read Mike Loukides' essay on "What is data science?" radar.oreilly.com/2010/06/what-is-data-science.html
 
Yes.
 
hey Paul!
 
Hey Paul.
 
Hey, JD.
 
It didn't make me any more excited about it as a field, although I think that it's reasonable as a career description.
 
8:52 PM
My 2 cents: "Data science" is an emerging area. Universities are offering degrees in, say, data mining now. I agree with JD, tho: the label is very poor.
 
I thought the essay was a nice summary though...
 
what's your beef with it, Shane?
 
Yes, a good career description. Not a "science".
 
Exactly.
 
yeah, that really gets at a good distinction
 
8:53 PM
I just don't like the idea of it becoming a university department. It isn't a real field, per say.
 
I see it as a skill set, to some degree. The field is the area we apply the skill to
 
It's more like a set of skills...
:)
 
@pteetor Was about to post the Hammerbacher quote from the end of it.
 
Maybe: data science = statistics + big data + big computing (think Hadroop) + big money (think Google)
 
@pteetor You missed all our soybeans discussions the other day.
 
8:55 PM
Rats! 'Bean vol is way up! Would have liked to hear the comments.
 
@pteetor basically just me rooting the bean market on.. go baby go!
 
I wasn't aware it needed a cheerleader :-)
 
Still down today?
 
need?
 
8:56 PM
I call it "self motivating".
 
@pteetor JD just likes to wear the cheerleader outfit.
 
cotton taking a beating after a monumental run up
it makes me feel pretty.. ok?
and peahead can quote me on that.
 
@JDLong Ah, that explains the full beard too.
 
<chuckle> Bring some pictures to the next C-RUG meet up.
 
@pteetor Is your book out yet?
 
8:58 PM
@Shane Very close. Finalizing the chapters now. 9 out of 14 are finalized, so 5 to go.
 
it's in "rough cuts" still, right?
 
@JDLong Right.
 
have you gotten any feedback through the rough cuts process?
anyone post comments on the Safari site or anything?
 
@Shane Bigest problem at the moment: Two reviewers said my interpretation of p-values was not mathematically precise (thinking of the semantics of hypothesis testing). So I have a round of editing there.
@JDLong Got ONE comment from Safari: Someone pointed out I used an adjective where an adverb was required. Thank you, thank you.
 
Oh boy. From the table of contents, it looked like it covered a lot of material.
 
9:01 PM
@pteetor I have looked at a few books in rough cuts and it seems the number of comments are low
 
Was entertained to see that you managed to work cointegration in there.
You seem to love your spreads!
 
@JDLong Right. O'Reilly is aware of that. Difficult to change/balance.
@Shane Spreads. Cointegration. R. I'm on a roll.
 
@pteetor put any spreads on lately? this market has been a little nuts in the ag commodities
 
@JDLong They are working on a whole different way to put out "beta" copies of books. Will encourage more feedback/integration. They are always thinking.
 
@pteetor they are very innovative. I beat them up pretty bad over their iPad app mainly because it seemed out of character with the rest of their operation
 
9:03 PM
@JDLong Only spread right now is long feeder cattle, short live cattle. Yes, ag world is nuts now.
@JDLong I saw your iPad app comment. Very funny, very right-on.
 
@pteetor yeah I would expect some oddness in the forward cattle market.. shifting production numbers in response to input prices. glad I don't have to feed a few hundred head right now
oh 10,000 feeders like the midwest operations. I would not sleep at night.
 
@JDLong Honestly, I've been focusing on the fixed-income world more than ag. The bond people are sweating blood over QE ... and it throwing stuff out of whack.
 
@pteetor no doubt. I traded emails with a buddy who runs a fixed income fund. summary of the email chain is basically: "WTF WTF WTFFFFF"
 
@JDLong LOL! That about sums it up.
 
I'm sure the unions who invest their pension dollars with him will be very very understanding of these unprecedented events.
</sarcasm>
 
9:10 PM
@JDLong My 9-year-old asked me, "What are cement shoes?" I'll send him to those union pensions for a demo.
 
@pteetor that's funny.
 
9:21 PM
database migration following a large Italian lunch was a poor choice. Glad I didn't have any chianti
 
@JDLong Aside from a nap, what is a wise choice after a large, Italian lunch?
 
@pteetor bocce ball?
 
@JDLong Yes!
 
9:54 PM
I hate web technolgies.
 
still fighting Rapache et al?
 
I've been hacking away for a week, debugging the uebercool gWidgetsWWW with the very nice John Verzani. Now I hook an R script in, and it works for N=30 and dies for N-40. Arrrgggh.
@JDLong All works. John is a good guys.
But now when I tried to load the correlation calculator with a meaningful number assets, it goes belly up.
Might be Miller time.
 
you can beat the bicycle messengers to Cal's if you hurry ;)
 
Definitely not web-scale.
 
you didn't use /dev/null did you? see. first you mock...
 

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