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1:30 AM
The extension we are building. It's rural area, no houses or street lamps nearby, so it's very dark. But the LED (powered by solar & battery system) is very bright. Thus the contrast.
 
1:50 AM
yo yo yo
 
 
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3:54 AM
yo
 
4:10 AM
whats up
 
So, I got this fun program problem as a kind of an interview question
I decided to go overboard and use 3D texture memory
As an interview question its pretty fucking hard and rerpesnts the stuff I normally charge $85 an hour for
There is a reasonable chance they can't afford me
 
that's actually pretty funny
I love the interviews that have the requirements of a full-stack developer and their offering 20$ an hour
 
4:25 AM
WordPress
 
lol
 
'Come over to the the lounge and grab a bargain, one whole full-stack developer Mikhail at heavily discounted price of $20 an hour. Free trial included.'
 
Better then interviews are the "partnership" proposals for apps.
 
lol "apps"
 
"I Have an app idea, it needs to be done in a month. I was thinking about a 50/50 partnership, I did come up with the idea."
 
4:35 AM
a partnership is a pretty hilarious legal instrument because all parties have, by default, total control of the enterprise
 
you always have to carve it into the contract
 
better to use an LLC for most things
Admittedly you can't LLC for every hack a thon
 
I'm pretty sure Google and Facebook are incorporated as LLCs
nvm
 
lol
 
I looked it up
 
4:42 AM
stock stock stock
 
Alphabet Inc. is an American multinational conglomerate headquartered in Mountain View, California. It was created through a restructuring of Google on October 2, 2015, and became the parent company of Google and several former Google subsidiaries. The two co-founders of Google continued to remain as controlling shareholders, board members, and employees at Alphabet. Alphabet is the world's fourth-largest technology company by revenue and one of the world's most valuable companies.The establishment of Alphabet Inc. was prompted by a desire to make the core Google business "cleaner and more ...
why is it changing my link?
that's interesting
 
@CupOfJava I read part of that, and for some reasons and the part I read was: 'to make the core Google business "cleaner'. I was like what? Google wanted to become a cleaning company?
 
I was trying to text grab and SO is changing the url for it
"https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alphabet_Inc.#cite_ref-23:~:text=As%20of%20September%201%2C%202017%2C%20their,a%20limited%20liability%20company%2C%20Google%20LLC.%5B"
 
 
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mr5
6:16 AM
o/
Do you guys know any algorithm to generate random non-overlapping path on a 2d surface?
 
 
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9:10 AM
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A: algorithm to generate random path in 2D tilemap

Spektre create 2D map so create 2D array of the size of your map and clear it by for example 0 add N random obstacles for example filled circles in the map use A* to find shortest path you can use mine ... C++ A* example If you want something more complex then you can create random terrain and use ...

 
9:35 AM
Morning
 
I'm still here
Fun retarded deployment move on NVIDIA's part. Old version of Thrust fails some MSVC checks ensuring that debug mode builds will runtime error (for touching uninitialized memory, etc). Now, new version of Thrust doesn't fuck this up. NVIDIA deploys a new version of SDK without fucking updating Thrust. WTF are these guys thinking sending out an SDK that runtime errors on all the code samples!? Or not updating to a version that actually works?
 
9:54 AM
Please reach our consumer support if you experience issues with our products.
 
I wonder if the underlying problem is that lack of CI containers with attached GPUs, which, in turn, prevents NVIDIA from testing anything they ship?
 
Oh noes, I reached the part of my new project where I'm supposed to write code instead of copy-pasting it
 
Have you considered asking on SO?
 
A O(1) median-of-medians implementation that works with forward iterators? Nah, I better slightly modify my existing introselect code.
Argh, I validate the spam fag instead of invalidating it >.>
 
Just passing through based on the flag. What is the policy on swearing in this room?
 
10:08 AM
If you validate the spam, does that mean their spam is well motivated?
 
The policy about swearing? It's never been a problem here.
 
Aug 2 '12 at 18:22, by Mysticial
You can come here and say, "Fuck you C++". And you'll probably get a star or two.
 
Ok, I just wanted to try get my head around what I should be voting for on the flags that got raised :)
 
I would say that we're almost pretty nice compared to a few years ago.
 
Aug 21 '15 at 0:05, by Mysticial
Fun Facts:
- Lounge<C++> has 56% of the instances of "fuck" in the entire chat.SO server.
- Lounge<C++> has more instances of "fuck" than the entire chat.SE server.
- And yet, for the most part, we give a total of zero fucks about anything.
 
10:10 AM
Haha, those were the times
 
Fucking good times
 
The drama was a bit high sometimes
 
I didn't validate the flag anyway. It bugs me that they get raised across all users and all rooms. Have a nice day :)
 
Noooo, stay we have nobody else :-(
 
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Q: Offensive, inappropriate, and un-professional chat room names

anonI was browsing the front-page of Meta, and I noticed off to the right a very strange and kind of inappropriate name for a chat room: However, when I look at the chat room info directly, the name of the room appears as Lounge<C++> Questions Are chat rooms allowed to be named after genit...

 
10:11 AM
But... the best I can do is throw Cython at my code and black-box the C++ conversion :P
 
@Morwenn NOICE
as opposed to NVCC which is LOT OF ICE
 
@roganjosh You don't know the joys of suffering C++ :'(
 
Well, not through lack of trying. Is there irony in fighting corporate anti-virus for weeks just to get a C/C++ compiler to run so I could even start learning how to suffer C++?
 
I prefer the term beautiful agony
 
That does sounds like a horrible yet fitting thing to undergo
 
10:15 AM
Fun fact, you can actually get paid to fight corporate anti-virus and then say you're a DEV OPS engineer with experience configuring C++11, C++17, C++20, C++23
 
I'm not sure it's something you want to get on your resume though
Do you explicitly avoid mentioning some techs you've used in interviews?
 
Yeah, for example, I did a bunch of php and Java but wouldn't like to continue
Also tcl
tcl your pickle for a nickle doesn't sound like a reasonable career choice
 
@Mikhail ooo, so it wasn't sunk time. I best go get editing my CV!
 
I generally avoid mentioning I did some Ant because it was horrible
 
Yeah, C++ has good job security. Even junior developers can produce a completely unintelligible cluster fuck that will yield work for years to come.
 
10:22 AM
XD
I had a single C++ job, spent half of it managing dependencies
 
And the rest was spent watching it compile :-)
 
Those were my days at some point: rebuild the dependency stack, wait for 4h
We used Conan to make things easier, but even then it was a wild ride
By the end of the project, our code relied upon a humongous stack of a hundred packages
Have you tried having Tensorflow, Qt and OpenCV in the same project? :')
 
@Morwenn Yes, I did exactly these things, if I recall we were both working on 3D imaging of sorts...
 
We handled point clouds, and at some point we needed human body pose estimation for a single feature...
I'm unsure whether the client is still able to maintain it :/
 
The place I kinda left basically can't, but I also think they understand there isn't really a business case to maintain dozens of OEM SDKs.
 
10:28 AM
Haha
 
Yeah, they kinda ruined my life, and they are still publishing my papers. I'm formally up to 43 papers out...
 
The issue is that despite trying my best, such a huge stack of libraries can break wherever, errors are hard to diagnose, hard to fix, and you have to provide a simple usable interface but one that doesn't hide what's beneath too much to avoid a total deconnection from the underlying issues and a loss of power of them
 
Imagine how fucked it is to use them :-)
 
>.>
 
Many camera vendors break on minor version changes, not to mention having issues with motherboards, or deployment problems like disabling C-state support on the MOBO.
When you start working on 30k emCCDs basically each one needs to be installed at the client site.
 
10:34 AM
And when you have to get several cameras to work at once, it becomes even trickier...
 
Yep, among my favorite bugs was when everybody used libusb but started having runtime handle collision. So that doing something on one device would disable another one :-)
 
In the meantime there are people like that: github.com/microsoft/Azure-Kinect-Sensor-SDK/issues/954
My O(1) median-of-median implementation seems to work
On the other hand I only had to change my O(log² n) implementation into a loop instead of performing the mutual recursion with introselect
Oh wait, I'm not sure it's properly getting called because the median-of-9 pivot requires more complicated patterns to break
 
Welp its time to sleep
 
Have a good night
 
 
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12:30 PM
Call me heartless, but I don't miss the old lounge. No.
There maybe more people, but then so what?
 
tbh 99% of the old lounge doesn't miss you either, so that's hardly surprising
 
If they miss a lot of us here, they would come back. They didn't. Please convince me that they miss you.
 
They don't miss me.
I'm in the Discord server.
 
~shrug~ whatever
I changed multiple jobs, I manage multiple properties, they each had multiple tenants throughout years. I run a meetup, there are always new people coming, old people becoming inactive. People constantly changing in my life ... well, that's just life.
 
That's indeed life.
But idealization of "better times" of the past is also part of it.
 
12:40 PM
I think more about all the things I need to deal with today and strategize about tomorrow. Tomorrow may be worse, it could also be better. Past is certain, future is uncertain, thus it makes more sense to think more about future. Don't dwell on the past.
 
tbh I don't want to have to deal with today or tomorrow either
 
There is a saying: if you don't plan about tomorrow, you will be worrying about today.(because tomorrow will become today at sometimes in the future.)
 
I do plan for the future, doesn't mean that I want to have to deal with it
 
I generally love people or creatures that I see everyday ... and that means my 3 pet chickens are currently the love of my life :p
 
I've got an undying uninteresting goldfish in my kitchen and a cute albeit annoying cat in my garden x)
 
12:52 PM
Quick question and could not find an answer I know in 24 to 48 hours i guess for sure when google play store updates downloads. I just looking to test different verisons of of a simple app (free and no adds so my objective was to just get some downloads before) in Vmware you can run Andriod Remix X86 enables you to download and run apps in VM ---- basically do apps download on x86 platform count towards you total download count for ?
 
Hello
 
hi
 
waz up
 
Copy-pasting code from one project to another, finding bugs, the original project benefits
 
interesting
sounds like a blast
 
12:57 PM
Not really
Most of my mini-project revolve around the same project I started in 2015
I don't know when was the last time I had ideas and motivation for a whole new thing
How are you doing yourself?
 
What was the project from 2015 about?
 
so if you have 1 download and you spin up and create 10 vms of x86 and us vpn to download and app could you get you app to 10 downloads .. or no they only count are X86 vms part of the Available on 13,057 devices
did not get access to android chat so thought i try here
 
@CupOfJava a sorting algorithms library
 
i just wait and see what the total is tommorrow
 
I've annoyed people with for a few years
 
12:59 PM
What type of sorting algorithms?
@Morwenn ^ To answer your question. I have an app deadline on the 14th of this month and I'm here in a chatroom trying to put it off.
 
Ouch, deadlines
Good luck with that
All the sorting algorithms that seem interesting and I find the motivation to implement or adapt from other code bases
 
Ok, it is not that I never missed the old loungers, it's just that my feeling towards people or things diminishes very fast especially when I don't see those people or things. It's not just positive feelings but sometimes negative feelings. Once it's out of the sight, it's out of the mind, there are always other exciting things in the world need my attention. :p
 
The big issue is tricking yourself into finding other new things exciting.
Also actually getting starting on something new, the first steps are difficult, you're lost and you don't have results before a while, so unless you like that kind of challenge it's not really motivating.
 
I think the motivation comes from the idea of what you might be able to do
 
1:16 PM
Yeah but I'm never solving actual problems x)
So the motivation is always theoretical
 
I am always learning, I am always a newbie at one thing or another. Humiliation because I am new and bad at something does not hurt me much. After tens of years of the same experience, I think I am used to it.
 
Are you sure you ever get used to it?
 
Oh, it's not really humiliation
More like "eh, I don't know what I'm doing, effort, and it will likely take months before any result"
 
idk, sometimes it is
 
Feeling is a subjective matter - like if everyone else think that you are weird, but you think yourself are fine, then you feel fine.
 
1:20 PM
little things like not knowing the jargon of the new thing can be Humiliating
 
I'd like to know how to draw decently but it's decades of effort and I don't have motivation for that
 
isn't the word "weird" a comparative term
 
kind of yeah
 
So could you really determine if you are weird or not?
 
You can determine how much you deviate from the norm and how much it's accepted
 
1:22 PM
If you are 83 yo and you are still attending high school ...
 
Wouldn't that have to be a determination of a 3rd party?
 
@TelKitty I once met a 80yo who was attending first year Japanese classes at the university
@CupOfJava only if you're oblivious about norms and your difference
 
University is different, university is really for all ages. Thus I said 'high school'
 
Sometimes you even overestimate how people would judge you
University is for all ages, but it's still uncommon to find 80yo students there
 
True.
 
1:27 PM
weird != Average
look I did the code
pay me money
 
1:49 PM
Does anyone have fun subjects for naming conventions?
 
 
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4:29 PM
@CupOfJava Apparently not :p
 
4:41 PM
if you were given a matrix and told to make the minimum number of moves to make it palindromic by rows and columns
any ideas for this? im a bit stuck
 
Make a new matrix of pointers to each element, make that one palindromic no matter the algorithm, then use it to reorder the first.
To reorder from known index you can consider the matrix as a linear array and use apply_permutation from Boost.Algorithm
 
sorry when i said moves, a move can only be +1 or -1 for one element in the matrix
 
Time to try to find a working solution yourself and show it on Computer Science.SE before asking if it's possible to do better :p
 
i dont have solution apart from noticing that you can do pairs of 4s and 2s sometimes lol
 
Because with the low number of active people here I doubt anyone is willing to take the time to solve such a problem
 
4:49 PM
just wondered whether anyone knew off the top of their head
but its a no
 
Sounds more like an exercise or programming challenge thing and not an actual real-world problem, so it's unlikely that people here have a solution out-of-the-box
 
ah ok
yeah its online cp
 
Historically most people in this room already have enough real-world problems and don't feel the need to create new ones, haha
 
surely that cp hard though :p
 
Yes, but there are solutions to cp problems
Speaking of invented problems I'm done with my median-of-medians implementation but now I have to write a bottom-up mergesort .___.
 
4:57 PM
why?
 
Trying to prove that it's possible to write an unstable comparison sort that runs on bidirectional iterators in O(n log n) time and O(1) space
 
@Morwenn ik, I'm very disappointed
 
5:25 PM
is this just find all substrings where all possible substrings have been removed?
 

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