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posted on September 05, 2019 by Herb Sutter

I just can’t get enough of this short video, combining interviews shot at last year’s CppCon with shots of our new “home” location that we’ll be enjoying for the first time two weeks from now. Please enjoy it — this is an excellent representation of what CppCon is like. Those of you who know me … Continue reading My favorite work-week of 2019 →

 
@TelKitty those seems to be JST PH connectors
what you'd need is a male connector that can be used to convert to a dupont (2.54mm)
that said, I'd guess in some case you'd prefer not to use an extra connector
@Mikhail not sure about a command, but you can always pipe the stdout of a program to the stdin of an other. You'll be able to input commands by hand
so one way would be to start bash with a stdin as a pipe, so anything that manage the stdin can simulate a tty. In python you can do it easily with Popen + communicate
 
1:04 AM
I'm sure I've inked it here before, but I once actually wrote some code with trigraphs: stackoverflow.com/a/20834537/179910
 
1:40 AM
@JerryCoffin do you find yourself often using bitmask operations? If so do you have any nice use cases where they are effective?
 
 
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3:39 AM
@Rick No, not particularly often.
The most common use I've had for them was talking to hardware, where you often have one register split into pieces, so these three bits mean one thing, the next 2 bits mean something else, and so on for the whole register.
 
 
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12:27 PM
@LoïcFaure-Lacroix I went to a Raspberry Pi specialist and was told that it looked like a qwiic connection. The only thing suitable I could find was this, but it maps all GPIO, not exactly the best option.
I would like something that only maps 4 pins as needed.
So I could use the rest for other components.
 
 
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6:38 PM
@TelKitty but if you look in the description
> All Qwiic-enabled boards use a common 1mm pitch, 4-pin JST connector.
not sure what Qwiic bring more than i2c by default but it seems you can it's kind of ridiculous how they designed a board for arduino with the jst connector
If you can't find anything. it could be worth it to simply replace those tiny wires by one with the right connector.
 
7:25 PM
lol
in Trash can, 1 hour ago, by Loktar
Oh @ndugger you're such a little bitch :P now I can leave the chat again for a few more weeks.
 
7:45 PM
@Mysticial with a name like that you'd almost think they were arguing WoW classic vs. WoW retail
 
7:59 PM
@Mgetz Maybe we're just seeing the overflow from an argument they started on AOL decades ago?
 
@Mysticial The good old days of the javascript chat room.
what are modern embedded software development principles? And what do embedded software engineers test for?
Is this just a fancy way of saying, do you know C++?
 
8:23 PM
@JerryCoffin possible, but that's a very specific user name
 
@Rick Most embedded dev jobs also involve talking more directly to hardware, and at least some knowledge of the typical embedded OSes like VxWorks and FreeRTOS/OpenRTOS, as well as their usual toolchains.
 
So it is a very specific thing, that has a very specific set of tools.
I really want to get into this space. It's where paper meets pencel (metaphorically speaking)
 
8:58 PM
@Rick Well, each of the typical OSes has its own specific set of tools and conventions.
But, there are also a fair number of embedded systems running (for example) Android, which uses more or less the standard Android "stuff", which isn't much like the standard FreeRTOS stuff.
 
@JerryCoffin but Android OS isn't considered an embedded system OSes like FreeRTOS
 
9:36 PM
@Rick Considered by whom? I know of things it's used for that the developers at least think of as embedded systems. For one (where I once interviewed): myomnipod.com/Omnipod-system
I s'pose there might be some question about whether their PDM is embedded, but the pod is clearly embedded (and also runs Android).
 
9:56 PM
@Rick embedded engineers are people who fled EE degrees, they get paid less, do hard work for little obvious contribution ("It took you a week to make a light bulb turn on!?", but really had to make a kernel driver), further, from interviewing them, they often don't develop in demand C++ skills. Embedded devs have repeatedly told me, threads are bad because they cause bugs. This was a show stopper at our interviews. Don't get into embeded.
The only Linux kernel driver I did - was as a kid for for $500 dollary doos, and it took a more than two week. Terrible work, and no respect.
 
@Mikhail strange, they seem to make on average less than a software engineer. However, one would think they would require having more skill.
 
There are many reasons 1) immigrated from EE, which pays less, these guys are desperate to leave. 2) They come in at the start of the value hierarchy, which means that they aren't often in the higher COGs part of the work. For example, medical device software is often outsourced to a boutique engineering firm. On the other hand the resulting product is sold with a 20x COGs 3) difficulty in explaining the value and productivity of their work
4) its not as technically challenging as other software jobs, especially the lower levels. They are more compartmentalized.
Anyways, the differences in pay, can be understood through the competing questions of "how many other people want to do your job" and "how much value do you add?" . The value added question, in real life, is often determined by connections and access. So that later stages, that actually connect product to money, actually make a ton of money.
 
10:12 PM
However, I do notice on glassdoor. The samplings they have for embedded are associated with well-established companies, Raytheon, Ford etc.... While software engineer is associated with google and companies that have high turnover or burn out at some point.
 
Also my new hobby is dividing neural network layers by investment, money. For example, u-net on the Chinese guy's git hub has 23 layers. I know of one company whose pitch raised $20 million dollars, so they got ~$1,000,000 per layer.
Companies like Raytheon, Lockeed_Martin, etc have a tri-modal workforce. They have researchy people, who we won't talk about. Then they have the people who can put up with writing very boring code, very slowly for little money (mostly older people), and pissed off younger people. We interview a lot of "refugees" form the younger people category. I don't know about absolute turnaround, but I feel its high for later category.
Anyways, real engineering happens with smaller teams, or at bigger companies (but not sure about how the hierarchy works at bigger, companies as I've never worked in any place with more than a few hundred engineers, maybe they have some architect?).
 
Maybe I should start doing hype. Come up with an idea that sounds plausible and then just market it. Marketing is easier than developing.
 
Thats too hard, just market somebody else's idea :-)
I've personally been making this mistake and I'm not sure how to fix it. I ended up in a leadership role but I can't figure out how to correctly take credit for other peoples work. From the job side, its hard to explain that your productivity is lower because of doing a bunch of code review, talking with vendors, etc. From the academic side, the kids want first authorship but also want to eat all my time. From the academic side, you don't get paid unless you are the first or last author.
So supervising and getting data for five students is killing me.
 
Yeah, I tried that, I even build on their idea. but it yielded little benefit.
Well managing people is a difficult task, you probably deserve that credit.
 
Managing them is easy, everybody is quite happy, and productive. This is because I know my field very well. Getting the credit is hard.
 
10:37 PM
Anyways, I fell into the common trap, where in academia it is more productive to work alone because you can get more first author papers, then leading a team, which gives you worthless, non-first author papers. The key problem is that there really isn't an intermediate position between grad student (first author value) and PI (senior author, but all papers with your name are valueable)
 
10:54 PM
@Mikhail I guess it's like clicks per impression. The more your name is seen the more your value goes up.
 
?
 
"all papers with your name are valueable"
 
Only if you're a professor, I am not, and that is the problem I have, as I have increasingly little time for first author papers.
 

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