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12:02 AM
@TelKitty Tipping at a hotel/motel is much less a necessity than at a restaurant. In particular, its much closer to a fixed amount, rather than a percentage like at a restaurant. As far as airbnb goes...airbnb advises against it, but if you think somebody was particularly nice, they probably won't object to a tip. In Canada, tipping is pretty much like in the US--expected at a restaurant, nice but not quite as strongly expected at a hotel.
 
12:27 AM
I want to live in a log cabin in the Banff/Jasper wildness - it turns out to be quite expensive if you try to book a whole cabin last minute :(
 
12:47 AM
What time of year are you going? When I've gone, I mostly slept in a tent (which is quite economical).
 
Next month or Sept/Oct this year. Not peak season, but not off peak either. If it's just me, I would love to hire a 4WD/AWD and stay in a tent. But my parents will be with me for the Canadian leg and my mum hates to stay in a tent.
Wildness camping is my fantasy, but all my family relatives and friends hate it. My bushwalking buddies are into it but I am not close enough to any of them to dope one into going with me.
 
1:10 AM
@StackedCrooked Almost, I wish the conversion was explicit though
I thought boost::unit might be what i was looking for but it seems to be for only standard/commonly used unit systems and not a generic make your own types and relations (or at least i didnt find that at a glance when looking at the docs)
 
 
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3:02 AM
boost unit lets you make your own types, on the other hand it adds some much extra code, I've always decided against using it (valelab4.ucsf.edu/svn/3rdpartypublic/boost/doc/html/boost_units/…)
 
 
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4:05 AM
I too feel like boost unit is over hyped boilercode
 
5:04 AM
It's not overhyped because zero people are using it.
 
 
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8:16 AM
@Mikhail Hey, I am using it
 
8:28 AM
I'm using it
though I prefer
pick one
Also you confused unit testing with adding "units" to values
 
 
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9:32 AM
@Mikhail What do you mean?
by using I meant currently working on a project that already is using unit tests
 
user7659542
Seems like I managed to narrow some things down
 
user7659542
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Q: Why doesn t every thhread run as long?

traduceradI have this code snippet which i ran on a singlecore CPU which uses quantum scheduling: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/YTxfjndh8R/ Which prints: task2: 0.017000 task3: 0.015000 task1: 49.992000 task2: -49.991000 task3: -49.992000 task1: -0.023000 task2: 0.029000 task3: 0.007000 task1: -0.024...

 
thhread
 
nwp
@traducerad Question makes no sense without external link which is a reason to close.
 
9:38 AM
@Mikhail oh lol
@nwp why closed?
 
nwp
@A.H. What?
 
you said the question should be closed
 
Indeed, the question is most likely a duplicate. I'm also offended by the flagrant violation of DRY, as the different tasks aka task1 contain what appears to be the same code.
 
The violation of DRY should only warrant a citation and warning
 
nwp
 
9:41 AM
^(Violations of DRY)
But as we all know the real reason the question got down-voted was due to spelling errors. Which are perhaps the result of typing on two keyboards without a mutex.
 
of course
@traducerad Why do you assume different executions of the same program take the same time?
 
user7659542
9:57 AM
@A.H. i can live with some small variations. But don t understand why they are so big
 
nwp
You should probably read the paragraph on scheduling algorithms and how fairness is a costly feature.
 
his results are junk, also, because he didn't take a mutex, also the run-time is dominated by IO, there is so much wrong with that code, it boggles the mind
 
user7659542
@Mikhail where would you use a mutex?
 
user7659542
How does this relate to IO?
 
nwp
> Fetched 290 MB in 34min 11s (142 kB/s)
Glorious internet
 
10:06 AM
Use two Internets to download faster
 
nwp
Apparently this is already using 3 56k modems. Such luxury.
 
@traducerad Basically, rewrite you code using paradigmatic C++, and there are some magic commands that will give your thread priority, so that 99% of the time the runtime will be the same for each task, somewhat to the determinant of other programs on the system.
 
@traducerad print ?
I edited your question to include your code
sounds weird
 
nwp
@traducerad Why do you not fix the issues that were pointed out?
@A.H. That coliru link looks pretty dead.
Man, qmake is the worst.
Whoever thought it's cool to add -Wall after all my flags is ok?
 
10:32 AM
I don't think any country is really going to jail Assange for long. Living in an embassy is not exactly healthy.
Better to get it over and done with.
 
10:50 AM
@nwp Seems like the output size is too large. Didn't think I allowed it to be this big.
 
11:13 AM
Assange stopped being cool when he became a useful idiot for the GRU
Or maybe when he refused to redact anti-Taliban fighters from wikileaks
Well, they're informants. So, if they get killed, they've got it coming to them. They deserve it.
 
11:31 AM
The lesson is to never becoming an informant. Worst job ever.
 
11:57 AM
@Mikhail he became a liability at that point at least, Ecuador doesn't really give a crap about the US but russian intelligence was something they didn't want to deal with
@TelKitty US will probably press charges and extradite with the condition that death penalty is off the table
for what it's worth the US would much rather have snowden than Assange, Snowden was an actual GRU agent
 
@Mgetz I think he is more worried that the U.S. will press him to shut down wikileak. If that happens, he will be in and out of the jail in a few months.
 
@TelKitty they can't? He's not actually part of wikileaks anymore. Wikileaks has tried to disentangle itself from Russian intel and him for awhile
not successfully btw
 
I don't know what's his real worry if he indeed has absolute nothing to do with wikileaks now.
 
?
 
?
 
12:10 PM
what does 'now' have to do with past (potential) crimes?
 
@TelKitty I'd guess he's worried about Russian Intelligence killing him, they have a habit of doing that on people that might turn on them. He's worried about ending up in ADX Florence for leaking stuff that did actually get US service personnel in Iraq and Afghanistan killed
 
If he has a team of good lawyers, he does not even have to do to jail.
 
to be fair ADX florence is better than the alternative
 
His alleged crime is not well defined, has no actual witness. If he has a billion dollars, he could literally walk away a free man, knowing the U.S. law.
 
He never spoke about it and self-incriminated?
 
12:14 PM
@TelKitty actually it's different, he'll probably try to claim 1st amendment protections because he'll claim he's a journalist
 
yep
 
Honestly I think the US is more interested in him for CI purposes than direct prosecution
 
Hi guys
I need help with a potential ODR violation situation.
 
Might be a good move to take out wiki leaks before the next election cycle. This would an interest act of selflessness by the Trump administration. Or perhaps it was the UKs prerogative.
 
is this correct group for this?
 
12:17 PM
@Mgetz Or better still, content service provider, like google or facebook
 
nwp

C++ Questions and Answers

Solve problems and approach solutions. Just ask and lurkers wi...
 
What makes me angry is the number of supporters these two guys seem to muster.
 
thanks
 
@TelKitty that would be very very hard to claim CDA230
1st amendment based on the pentagon paper's case would be a better strat
 
For example, the people on HN can't be simultaneously anti Trump and pro Assange
 
nwp
12:19 PM
Lots of people are unhappy with their government. If there is someone who stands up to them then that makes them heroes for some people, regardless of what they did.
 
@Mikhail A) GRU has tons of bots still, those never went away B) that includes on hacker news
 
On the other hand the people on HN fit a certain stereotype
 
@Mikhail are on average more moderate, also political stories are in general banned from HN. So the only way they generally get there is the russian bot army
the russians have been using the whisper circle technique for ages
 
I mean, the bay area isn't known for insightful, self critical thinking
 
how do you explain poop maps then? :p
 
12:24 PM
@Mikhail and the russians have been feeding into that insularity with whisper circles for ages
 
i used to laugh when people talked about anarchy, but..doesnt seem so bad now.
 
originally in the 1960s it was a recruitment technique
now it's a technique they use to undermine trust in government to open people to possible recruitment
oh wait... same thing
larger scale
 
whisper circles. ironic.
 
do you know what that means?
 
seems obvious. (?)
 
12:28 PM
It means surrounding a subject with materials that all suggest a particular leaning or viewpoint. Overtime the subject assimilates to that viewpoint
 
Shows how little people actually use their own brains - in any country.
 
and of course facebook et al have been playing into this in the extreme
 
good thing intelligent people outbreed unintelligent people.
 
lol, intelligence has nothing to do with it. Whisper circles are just as effective against them too
 
no, but maybe you get my point.
 
12:30 PM
it's about herd behavior and appearance of consensus
 
@ABuckau Neither Issac Newton nor Tesla bred. To bad your logic fails by example.
Newton is basically the creator of modern science as we know it.
 
:|
 
1:02 PM
I just questioned my own intelligence. gj.
 
nwp
You are clearly doing it wrong. You must only question everyone else's intelligence. Duh.
 
That's what started it actually..
 
nwp
It helps not to look too much at someone trying to refute a statement made in jest with a terrible argument.
 
was it jest?
sorry, I shouldn't ask you what I meant :p ..but in all seriousness.
I'm slowly loosing faith.
 
nwp
I assume this was not serious, knowing idiocracy and all.
Telkitty does have a a talent for making people lose faith in humanity.
 
1:09 PM
you assume much.
even if it wasn't serious: does it have validity? (considering the sarcasm)
 
nwp
Am I wrong in the assumption? If so do watch the movie Idiocracy.
 
does it have validity? I know that knowing the parents doesn't give guarantees about the offspring, but.. ?
I'm not sure. I wouldn't be at all surprised if it were true.
I know we still haven't solved nature vs nurture, but in some cases, you're double f*cked.
 
@ABuckau idk if it's true, but I usually hear the opposite never heard someone say that
 
keep going
 
1:29 PM
@nwp I'm not sure if it'll actually get that bad..I would hope there is some lower limit, but even then, there could be huge effects. I don't know about you, but my country is essentially democratic.
 
nwp
What does intelligence being negatively correlated with fertility rate have to do with a country being essentially democratic?
 
um
I'm finding it difficult to find a nice way to say it. You're joking, right?
I'm not the funny guy. If you're looking for humor, it's not me : (
 
nwp
I'm not joking and I don't get what you are trying to say. Say it in a not nice way if that makes it clearer.
 
Your question was 'why does an increase in the percent of a population that has low IQ have an effect in a democracy', is that correct?
 
nwp
No. I have not mentioned democracy at all.
 
1:38 PM
I see. no, I wasn't saying there was a connection between IQ and being democratic.
I was saying if there is a negative correlation between IQ/fertility rates, a democratic country is f*cked.
 
nwp
You mean related to the assumed resistance of intelligent people against "whisper circles" controlling them.
 
no, unrelated. sorry.
or, perhaps related. just, not what I was focusing on.
potentially of more importance. Then again...it could be a force for good, I suppose.
 
nwp
You mean that democracy requires people to vote intelligently and thus a democratic country suffers more from a dumb population than a dictatorship would?
 
potentially, sure.
depends on the dictator :p
and also the 'leadership' of the democracy. "could be a force for good"..depends who controls the mob.
I don't feel quite right talking about intelligence in such a way..it's not the end-all, be-all. But it certainly has effects.
 
@ABuckau which is the mainstream media
 
1:48 PM
which is owned.
 
nwp
I was taught that people are limited by education and intelligence, and that the education is generally so bad comparatively that the intelligence limit is rarely hit and thus doesn't matter.
 
@nwp On average, I would agree. But then again, with the internet, education is so available.
 
nwp
Having information available somewhere on the internet is not sufficient education.
 
I didn't mean "you can google it", if that's what you mean. (?)
 
you need to have people find and learn from the material, which is far from trivial, especially when hostile elements try and block it
 
1:52 PM
There aren't too many topics, that if you wanted to, you could spend the next 2 years studying, and be in the top 10% of a field. (obviously doesn't apply to cutting edge stuff)
@ratchet edit: removed. Indeed.
 
to give an example that has no malicious element, trying to learn opengl from scratch using only the internet is a minefield because the paradigm changed a few times over the versions and the easiest tutorials to find are the ones using the oldest techniques
 
learning most software things is, because the target is constantly moving..which is why I hate C++ :P ..I understand why, but I still don't like it.
software was the wrong word, but you know what I mean.
 
but other fields are also moving, add any kind of hostile element that spreads misinformation and you end up with flat earthers and anti vaxers
 
hey now
how can you talk about 'whisper circles', but be so ready to inject yourself? :p
i'm not anti-vaccine..but it scares the fck out of me what *could be done with it. just saying. paranoid? sure. but I'd rather be overly cautious..
 
nwp
What could be done with vaccines other than vaccination?
I guess you could poison people, but bullets are more effective.
Also stop self-censoring "fuck". It offends me.
 
2:02 PM
aren't we entering into an age of genetic modifications?
 
you could engineer a virus that does crazy things like lay dormant until puberty after which it triggers massive hormone imbalances
well in the near futureâ„¢
 
"ya, but we have guards in place to make sure only [the good stuff] could possibly be used" ..ok, sure :|
i haven't put much thought into it, but quite a lot of things..
 
nwp
I guess you could poison people so they don't notice until it is too late. Then again why? Seems way too slow and pointless.
 
again, not to sound too paranoid, but. But I don't think that's actually anyone real interest atm.
 
killing is overrated, dumbing down the population is, though the crappy education tends to cover that handily
 
2:05 PM
not until someone with the resources thinks they should personally slim down the population. I'm not saying they exist, but it certainly wouldn't take much.
a good work force is nice
my fancy jet isn't going to assemble itsself
there would be a balance/range
not enough = no fun. too many = danger
hypothetically.
 
nwp
I thought we are entering into an age where people are unemployable because machines are simply better. I don't think you want dumb people in your work force.
 
maybe not dumb in engineering sense, but dumb in the political/financial sense
 
try to imagine you had more money than you could actually spend in your lifetime.
islands, jets, all the fancy toys.
look at it from that perspective.
 
nwp
I am. Having smart people work helps with that. Making them dumb/docile/dead with gene modifications doesn't.
 
does having 50 billion people on the planet help?
250 billion?
 
nwp
2:09 PM
Definitely.
The more the better.
 
: |
don't fuck with me :p
 
there is a limit to how many the planet can support thoguh
 
and only so much you can actually spend/do
i guess expand into space? but further than the first couple bodies, I don't think that'd be much fun. so. earth is pretty b.a. anyway.
 
nwp
I always imagine what would have happened if, say, Einstein had been born in Africa and spent his day trying to get enough food not to starve and not even doing it well. Such a waste. I don't want to even think about how many African geniuses we let starve to death at the age of 5 and not having invented the cure for cancer.
The way to get rich is educate people better and having them compete for my money with ever better stuff.
 
but then they may usurp you and make your life poorer
 
nwp
2:16 PM
Meh. Let them usurp me with their superior cancer treatment and technology that I get to buy for cheap. Either way I profit.
 
unless they usurp you with nukes
 
unless you got your money from the same tech, and now can't because they replaced you
it's a good problem to have..i don't think i had a point
 
nwp
That's why you export food and education to Africa, not weapons.
 
so we can get to 50billion faster?
and have more expensive gas?
and more expensive {probably all other raw materials}
 
and a planet that is even closer to a climate disaster
 
nwp
2:19 PM
We would not get to 50 billion. Giving people medicine and education reduces birth rates for some complicated reasons. So if you want to stop overpopulation in Africa you give them food, medicine and education.
Also one of those people is gonna invent a properly viable fusion reactor so that my laptop runs on air with infinite power.
Also my car.
 
possibly. possibly not.
we will get to 50 billion.
or should be be like china and limit the number of children people can have?
unless you enforce that, I see us filling up until it collapses. likely*
people won't not do that, until it's the only option.
 
nwp
Why would we need to? The fertility rate of properly civilized countries hovers around 2. People having infinite food does not result in them having infinite children.
 
ie. if my little timmy starved to death last year, I might not be too eager to have another.
are those stats after we killed million of men in world wars?
 
nwp
It's the exact opposite. The higher the chance of little Timmy dying the more children you produce.
 
so for only like the last 50 years? 2 generations?
if everyoone around you is starving because there aren't enough resources, that would be silly.
in the 50billion scenario. *
(that is just an example number. I'm sure studies have been done on what our planet can handle, and I'm sure they're wrong. pick whatever number you like.)
 
nwp
2:25 PM
Look at the statistics. You could argue that we should not help Africa to EU standards because of a fear of making the human race extinct.
 
is largely affected by circumstances.
 
but how much is the low fertility rate in developed countries caused by the western taboo on sex and the scary STDs
 
we will never by our own choices, have too low a population. I'll personally make sure it doesn't happen XD
not much.
more likely the cost of college and housing
for me personally..
not enough sex is absolutely not the problem..
I can't say that for a fact, but I'd bet my left nut on it.
I'd bet that it's because most people realize that having too many children is financially irresponsible. excluding farmers*
 
nwp
My guess it's that in poor countries you rely on your offspring to feed you when you are old and crippled. You must produce children in order to survive.
 
yep, I meant to say 'agricultural', but I thought 'farmers' was close enough.
but I have to agree with the cat on this one: our pupulation will continue to explode until it is unsustainable, and MAYBE after the great die-off, we'll get it under control. for a couple generations.
 
nwp
2:36 PM
All the evidence points against that scenario.
 
we'll only get a Great Dying if the planet hits a tipping point with how many people it can sustain
 
true. i forgot about man-made killings...they could stop us from getting to that point :/
@nwp Then there is a flaw in the collection of evidence.
we are complex creatures, it's not so easy to say with certainty why something is or how it will be.
I'm pretty sure we're starting to destroy our planet at an ever increasing rate. We could change, but we probably won't.
 
animal populations in general don't have Great Dyings as their population ocsillates around it's stable point
 
we're animal2.0
 
the only time Great Dyings happen is when an external factor destroys their food source or their predators explode in population
 
2:45 PM
it's not the same thing
"why" ..I can't explain so easily.
but it's not.
not even close
 
nwp
I don't know why you are so negative about it. A positive outlook would be that we will no longer have to rely on animals and the planet to sustain us. Just feed some dirt to the generator and have the fabber produce a streak in 5 minutes. Medium rare, nutrients optimized for you personally, taste improved and no animal harmed.
 
I prefer the term 'realist.' That's possible, sure, and I hope you're right.
I'm so negative because if you look out your window, you can see us destroying the planet.
Of course I hope you're right, but I don't see it.
 
nwp
I see blooming trees. Does not look destroyed to me. Also has not changed much in the years I've observed.
 
in some parts of the world parasites are devastating forests because of short-sighted management (monoculture)
 
3:02 PM
assuming we don't make extinct the species there, it would grow back, if given the chance..but I don't see why that would happen.
unless your meat machine gets invented with the quickness.
who needs nature anyway
 
nwp
Hopefully we will not by the time it becomes a serious problem.
 
define serious problem?
fuck polar bear
and big cats
we don't "need" them..
I'll take that cheap hamburger tho.
 
nwp
A serious problem would be if we run out of oxygen and trees die because of it and we have no means to produce it ourself.
 
yep
 
nwp
A couple of polar bears and big cats dying sucks, but ultimately will not kill us.
 
3:07 PM
so anything short of that, we probably won't stop
exactly.
i'm not worried about 'a couple', but if we lose the species, it'll be a poorer planet
"we won't lose...we froze their dna and re-create them" : not the same thing.
 
and the knock on effects on the ecology
 
we can survive it
but it's going to be a pathetic planet.
u'll be able to jack into the matrix by then, but still.
 
nwp
You seem to have a different understanding of what makes a pathetic planet than me.
Most of the species' will survive in some zoo and nobody will care about them.
And it does not make the planet relevantly poorer.
 
please move to mars
 
nwp
I want to. It has a longer day/night cycle. Would fit with my bio-rhythm.
 
3:13 PM
@nwp but a lot uglier
 
nwp
Assuming I get my steak and internet and don't die from radiation and some other important stuff.
 
those comics where the person has mcdonalds mainlined...you like that?
 
nwp
Depends on how they do it. If it hurts and tastes as bad as now then no. If they do it well and have nanobots deliver the correct nutrients into my blood without me having to eat or drink ever, then hell yeah.
 
edit: removed. I respect your right to live as you please, but holy fuck..
 
nwp
What is wrong? You think eating is super important and enjoyable so that you cannot imagine not doing that every day?
 
3:20 PM
you sound like if you could upload your brain to a machine to work on solar you would
 
he would. immortality.
 
nwp
Maybe. Depends on the machine and how much of me is lost in translation.
 
@nwp so that would mean spoiling the oceans, more likely we'll die off first
 
you wouldn't know the difference ..
 
nwp
But yeah, immortality sounds nice, especially when your body starts failing.
 
3:21 PM
anytime a resource becomes too plentiful nature finds a way to bring balance. In this case I suspect a virus would do the trick
 
for a very short term, maybe.
would have to be one hell of a virus.
 
nwp
I would expect health services to prevent us from dying to some virus.
 
@ABuckau or a fungus or etc...
 
depends. if signs didn't show for a while, it would have time to spread.
 
nwp
Also plaque inc taught me that moving to Madagaskar is a great strategy.
 
3:23 PM
especially considering how dense the popuation will be
 
@nwp I wouldn't, there is a fungus that's been killing people in hospitals around the world that they are scared about right now
Candida Auras I believe
 
@Mgetz aids was a good attempt
 
Candida auris is a species of fungus first described in 2009, which grows as yeast. It is one of the few species of the genus Candida which cause candidiasis in humans. Often, candidiasis is acquired in hospitals by patients with weakened immune systems. C. auris can cause invasive candidiasis (fungemia) in which the bloodstream, the central nervous system, and internal organs are infected. It has recently attracted increased attention because of its multiple drug resistance. Treatment is also complicated because it is easily misidentified as other Candida species. C. auris was first described...
 
@mgetz depends how fast/far it was able to spread. I would hope not more than 10% of the population, but there is a chance I suppose.
 
all that's really required is an increase in the mortality rate
@ABuckau 10% is significant, just look at the 1918 flu epidemic. That could happen again.
 
3:26 PM
mm..10% of 50 billion isn't so much.
 
omg what's wrong with me, SHAZAM! made me tear up
 
nwp
That nicely ties it back to the beginning. This is why we need to jumpstart Africa. More people spending more time on curing rare diseases.
 
i mean...5 billion people is a tragedy, but you know what I mean. In terms of population and growth.
 
The 1918 influenza pandemic (January 1918 – December 1920; colloquially known as Spanish flu) was an unusually deadly influenza pandemic, the first of the two pandemics involving H1N1 influenza virus. It infected 500 million people around the world, including people on remote Pacific islands and in the Arctic, and resulted in the deaths of 50 to 100 million (three to five percent of the world's population), making it one of the deadliest natural disasters in human history.Infectious disease already limited life expectancy in the early 20th century. But in the first year of the pandemic, lif...
 
is it the end times?
 
3:27 PM
@A.H. no
 
shit I guess we will never see concepts in C++
 
regardless of when you ask that the answer is always the same
 
end times for humanity * '
 
again, no.
unless...nukes. maybe.
 
You never know, the planet could explode
it's possible for humanity to end
 
3:29 PM
@A.H. always, we could get hit by a solar flare tomorrow or a gamma ray burst
 
We get rid of humanity by evolution
 
and most likely it would wipe out 75% of the life on the planet
but we'd still survive
 
@Mgetz what if the planet no longer exists after
 
hah
 
@A.H. Unless we were super close... unlikely? the Sun's own magneto sphere would blunt the most of it, Earth's would blunt the rest. The ionizing gamma rays would kill most of the life on one side of the planet though
people don't realize just how strong those magnetic fields are
 
3:31 PM
what if it lasted for 24 hours?
: D
 
@ABuckau then we'd probably still be fine, they aren't that wide
 
the atmospheric and magnetic field damage might be enough to end the remaining 25%, and boy will they be wishing they went out with the rest of us, in a flash
warlords would rise up again
massive wars mass killings
 
people in the nuclear submarines might get a little confused
 
@A.H. you say that like it wouldn't happen regardless?
 
and space shuttles
@Mgetz what do you mean?
 
3:33 PM
these things are not mutually exclusive
 
@ABuckau and may trigger standing "nuke the world" orders
 
@A.H. political systems fail when the price of bread rises too much in a given time period, look at the arab spring
 
@ratchet i knew today wasn't all bad.
 
@ratchetfreak actually russia's dead hand system would do that
so pray it hits the US not moscow
 
@Mgetz hey people here didn't rise up because of bread
 
3:35 PM
@A.H. you sure?
Almost every revolution in history can be traced to the price of food
 
talking about Egypt
it's a factor
but economy is not the only issue
 
I'm talking Tunisia where it started
of course
 
@Mgetz don't the US' troops have the same kind of system?
 
troops?
 
but it's an issue so basic it will cause people to make a decision that would otherwise have been irrational
@ratchetfreak no we removed any such systems in the 1980s when we had a few close calls.
All US nukes are now secured (or should be) by PALS
 
3:39 PM
we don't read the same news sites
 
the UK on the other hand does not use PALs and could have a rogue commander
 
you wouldn't happen to know where the DUMBS are would you?
 
nwp
All over the US
 
instructions unclear, made it to china.
was UK given nukes by US?
did they develop their own guidance systems?
cuz if not, those are still counted as ours :p
 
@ABuckau AFAIK no, they made their own. The Guidance systems on the launchers are US designed by but UK programmed and maintained.
France AFAIK uses their own designs
for everything
 
3:50 PM
and they tested them? Sillly question, but.
 
yes
Fangataufa (or Fangatafoa) is a small, low, narrow, coral atoll in the eastern side of the Tuamotu Archipelago. It was formerly known as Cockburn Island. Along with its neighboring atoll, Moruroa, it has been the site of approximately 200 nuclear bomb tests. == Geography == The island is approx. 9.5 kilometres (5.9 miles) long and 9.5 kilometres (5.9 miles) wide. It has a lagoon area of 45 square kilometres (17 square miles) and a land area of 5 kilometres (3.1 miles). It is located 37 kilometres (23 miles) south of Moruroa atoll, 197 kilometres (122 miles) east of Tematangi, 240 kilometres (150...
 
nwp
The previous name seems more fitting.
 
Also related: Godzilla origin story
 
1968. damn. I'm sure Russia loved that.
 
apparently the french unleashed Godzilla
 
3:54 PM
the thought crossed my mind.
and then?
 
@ABuckau and then what?
 
yes exactly
 
nwp
Your lack of communication skills is astounding.
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well, you're rubber, and I'm glue..
 
@nwp this was discussed yesterday
 
4:03 PM
communication skills?
comprehension maybe?
 
4:27 PM
All this miscommunication makes me so sad.
 
@StackedCrooked At least the miscommunication is recognized, so it's already halfway toward being fixed. The really difficult situations are were everybody knows communication was clear and they fully understand each other--but their ideas of what was understood were entirely different.
 
Wow. That sounds bad.
I wasn't serious btw :)
 
@StackedCrooked In the Lounge? Somebody being not-serious? I never would have guessed! :-)
 
5:08 PM
Jerry has a genetic mutation that prevents him from being serious.
 
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