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12:00 AM
@Mysticial Anybody going to guess whether there are real papers discussing "stellar incubators"?
 
@JerryCoffin "Stellar Nursery" is a thing.
 
@Mysticial Also known (sometimes) as incubators--but yes, large clouds of gas dense enough that they're (believed to be) condensing into stars. The M42 nebula is one example.
 
 
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2:03 AM
I have been revising some university maths. Given enough time and good tutorials, advanced maths can be easy and interesting.
 
 
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4:05 AM
 
4:47 AM
@JerryCoffin IOW, saying that someone's mother is as big as a nebula is a step up from saying they are as large (or as small) as their Schwarzschild radius.
 
But if you can rent such a mum out by $1 per day per cubic meter, you will be making a fortune ...
 
5:32 AM
Derivatives are linear
So counter intuitive ...
But true because it follows the rules of linear functions (addition, scaling)
 
6:13 AM
Tensorflow name is the polar opposite to Java namings ... 2 letter variables vs 20 letters variables.
 
 
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7:16 AM
Anyone else thinks peace symbol might be a conspiracy made by Mercede Bens or related stakeholders?
 
8:04 AM
No.
 
8:28 AM
Why? Is your real name 'Anyone else'?
I need good tensorflow tutorial, the one I am currently reading teaches me little but confuses me a lot.
tensoverflow
 
9:14 AM
@ABuckau I will be super friendly with you, if you just admit that you are a bear on the internet ...
 
10:06 AM
Please don't.
: D
 
<3 bear
 
^^ member of Cat Clan.
 
 
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11:48 AM
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Q: Recursive Function C++

Catalin CristianCan someone explain this line: return 1+f(x/2, y); Here is the code: int f(int x, int y) { if (x==y) return 0; if(x>y) return 1+f(x/2,y); return 1+f(x,y/2); } I know that the function is recursive but I didn't see this line until today: return 1+ f(x/2, y); W...

/cc @Mysticial "I understand the function is recursive but can you explain this line", where the line is literally what makes it recursive
like wut
 
12:31 PM
Things in blue aren't true.
 
Ven
Also working at facebook is disgusting
 
I am amazed that they didn't mention your youtube profile :p
Surely if they have been stalking you even occasionally, they would know how much effort you have been spending on pimping your channel >_<
 
@TelKitty Are you belittling my YouTube channel? The videos are top notch and get tens of views. Tens! I'm practically the next PewDiePie...
 
12:46 PM
Tens of views? OMG you are famous!
 
Do you have a YouTube channel? I bet your chickens would get thousands of views.
 
@fredoverflow I hope in the future you will get elevens and maybe twelves of views!
then those facebook rats will start noticing you!
 
@login_not_failed I hope they don't.
 
I have a youtube channel, the only one with 1000+ views is some aggressive small bird attacking human video that I look in a local park.
 
but the "things in blue" picture made me giggle, I should do the same thing since they probably have 0 fact checking, just for the kicks
 
12:50 PM
Like my app downloads, my youtube videos get views, just none of them are viral.
 
@fredoverflow looks like facebook knowing everything about you is fake news...
 
@TelKitty I'm gonna watch your "bird chicken feeding" video 985 times now...
 
LOL
 
@TelKitty The video doesn't have subtitles, what is being said at 11 seconds in?
 
feeding chickens and magpies
 
12:58 PM
@ratchetfreak I just noticed the recruiter didn't even get my name right lol
 
1:29 PM
@fredoverflow I like your youtube channel :)
 
1:45 PM
@Borgleader Thanks, that means a lot to me.
 
2:31 PM
 
2:45 PM
Really, 6 upvotes? — sehe 20 secs ago
I remember AwaitedOne. He truly tried to honor his name once, before
Nov 29 '17 at 0:38, by sehe
Chuckle. "AwaitedOne" seems an apt name for a person with so much performance-awareness
 
 
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4:13 PM
How come the output of the time command can't be suppressed?
$ time ls >/dev/null 2>&1

real	0m0.003s
user	0m0.001s
sys	0m0.002s
I redirected both stdout and stderr!
Oh. It's a builtin command that can override the rules.
 
@StackedCrooked indeed, there's also the time binary, which is different
 
Damn. Somebody just added 10k garbage entries to Coliru's feedback page.
 
someone found the spam crooked button
 
kind of impressive, I mean, all that time coliru existed and no one abused the feedback thing
 
^ @rightfold, was that you?
:P
@milleniumbug I once got commercial spam.
Somebody programmed his bot so that it would enter spam into input boxes :D
It was always the same text so I could filter it with a simple regex.
 
4:34 PM
@StackedCrooked Let's start putting creepy love letters in there. :)
 
It does contain some hearts.
 
Do you rate limit it?
 
The slowness of the code rate-limits itself.
But yeah. I probably could have some kind of token-bucket algorithm to avoid problems.
In any case the request are handled sequentially. And each requests takes 100 to 1000ms
 
IOW, you can be DOS'ed.
 
Yep. It's extremely easy to do.
 
4:41 PM
Oh lemme try. Does this apply to running code entries as well?
:P
Can I ask @Xeo for one of his TMP bombs and then run like 100 of them in parallel?
 
Sure.
If the server crashes it's restarted. After ten crashes it introduces a delay of 1 minute before restarting. This loop can repeat 10 times. Then it gives up and schedules a reboot after 5 minutes.
The delay before reboot is important to avoid a reboot loop in case the webserver has a bug.
Reboot loops are not fun :)
Coliru is full of little hacks like that.
 
> Coliru Everything is full of little hacks like that.
FTFY
 
 
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6:27 PM
Fuck. I need to find an expert on mesh smoothing. Given a mesh, how do I interpret the mesh as spline control points...
Or given a very low resolution mesh, one where the points are selected by hand. How do I smooth it?
 
6:45 PM
Was going through the AI/DL/NN instructions. And is it just me or do these instructions do the exact same thing?
- VPMADDWD - Available in SSE2.
- VPDPWSSD - New to Cascade Lake, requires AVX512-VNNI.
When EVEX encoded. The former one has SSE and AVX/VEX encodings which don't exist for the 2nd one.
 
@Mysticial I submitted a rather vague bug report to MS: developercommunity.visualstudio.com/content/problem/314775/…
 
7:02 PM
@Mikhail Seeing as how their compiler keeps ICE'ing and miscompiling SIMD, I'm gonna guess they aren't gonna bother looking at that for a while.
 
Yeah. It's more to communicate priorities... They don't autovectorize any 16 bit types.
Honestly, I'm surprised they didn't completely switch to clang+LLVM
 
LLVM isn't GPL is it?
 
It isn't. So many compiler vendors, Cray or Intel/Altera (for NIOS) use LLVM, with some vendor specific optimizations.
I heard a roomer that MSVC was going to be using LLVM on the backend, but keep the front-end with their shitty parser for the "lulz"
 
7:19 PM
@Mysticial Also upvote my bug report
 
7:51 PM
@Mikhail I'd be rather surprised at that. They did adapt things to use the Clang front end with their C2 back-end, but AFAIK, that's basically dead too.
 
8:42 PM
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Q: How to get if a type is truly move constructible

Jonathan GawrychTake for example this code: #include <type_traits> #include <iostream> struct Foo { Foo() = default; Foo(Foo&&) = delete; Foo(const Foo&) noexcept { std::cout << "copy!" << std::endl; }; }; struct Bar : Foo {}; static_assert(!std::is_move_constructible_v<Foo>, "Foo...

This is a rather good one
(I thought I could create an artificial type which inherits from the type we want to check and delete the copy ctor and run that through is_move_constructible but no dice...)
(It also had the annoying limitation of not working on final types)
 
9:01 PM
@Borgleader This is one of the reasons why I disable copy-constructors/assignment for the "large number" objects in my pi program.
 
It's kind of dumb that the type trait called is_move_constructible returns true when it wont actually move the thing
I get why it does that, but it's still dumb
 
private boost::noncopyable
 
@Mikhail Is there even a point for that anymore now that you can = delete?
 
@Mysticial you can make sure you are not forgetting any
 
half the typing, and prevents friends from doing naughty things
disadvantage is the pattern isn't understood by static analysis software, so ReSharper C++ still warns you that you forgot to implement copy constructors, etc
 
9:13 PM
@ratchetfreak Isn't there only 2 of them? Or does the definition of "noncopyable" extend beyond no copy construction and assignment.
 
oh right the implicit declaration of constructor is a mess...
 
CMake has this funny syntax with angle brackets: $<BUILD_INTERFACE:>
Anyone know how it's different from ${BUILD_INTERFACE:}
 
the first one is a "generator expression" and the other one is a regular variable
haven't used the former so can't explain what it does nicely
> Generator expressions are evaluated during build system generation to produce information specific to each build configuration.
okay...?
 
Erm, okay!
I should try to port some of my projects to Meson. I want to know if precompiled headers help in compile times.
 
9:42 PM
///ips:/ I got into this neat research stuff. It was neat. We got neat results and everything was neat.
Now the research question is: What does a person feel like if you put a dot here.
 
They feel neat, duh.
 
How do I effectively communicate to my research professor that he is an idiot for accepting this project.
And is there a stronger statement I can make other than "Order 66"
 
10:27 PM
@CaptainGiraffe Mostly people feel like "skin", but if the dot has a different texture, it might change that.
 
@CaptainGiraffe I'd caution you against that. A lot of stuff is done for political reasons that don't immediately make sense. Other times bad research is conducted because everybody already did the good research.
 
10:45 PM
@Mikhail s/immediately //
 
As you get older you realize that everybody got paid, although perhaps not a lot (if you are a student rather than a PI)
 
Xeo
@Mysticial one of my what
 
11:26 PM
@JerryCoffin This is augmented reality crap. Put a text label on a leg and call it research.
@Mikhail I appreciate your sensible reply. I'm just plenty frustrated.
 
@CaptainGiraffe Artificial Stupidity Research. The latest craze!
 
@JerryCoffin I detest it with a passion. "Can't we use UNITY?"
@Mikhail I'm one of the old crew. I wrote 13h interrupts when I was 10.
 
11:41 PM
I have found a good deep learning tutorial, concept seems fairly easy so far. Must admit whoever made that video is fairly good at explaining things. I have watched his other videos, they are also very informative and insightful videos but about maths.
 

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