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@Mysticial pandoc
 
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01:48
both google & apple sent users like me an emails about using their ads
Has apple created even one truly innovative product since the demise of Steve Jobs?
 
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I wonder what's the most backward compatible platform and language ... would you still be able to compile and run a 30 year old C program on linux uniform?
05:45
beautiful, quiet Tuesday afternoon ... world is always quieter for people with blocked ears
 
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Morning Puppy
morning
Ven
Ven
07:30
Hi
07:47
morning
May 13 at 9:26, by Jerry Coffin
Good (night|morning|afternoon|evening) all.
@thecoshman exactly :o
I swear while I was jogging just now, there was someone in the soccer team that tried to hit me with a soccer ball. Evil brats.
Soccer flying in your direction once, it's coincident, twice - maybe coincident. Three times or more in less than 30 minutes - if that's still coincident, lemme coincidentally bring out my claws and let them land casually on your face ... if I wasn't jogging ...
nwp
nwp
I forgot how to python properly. The usual print(thing.__dict__) doesn't tell me about thing :(
type(thing)
@TelKitty would you believe I only had to pay them $1? XD
08:29
If that's the case, imagine what would they do to you if I pay them $2? ^_^
:( I can't compete.
@TelKitty take the ball and go home then?
> N2911 explains that the acronym SCARY “describes assignments and initializations that are Seemingly erroneous (Constrained by conflicting generic parameters), but Actually work with the Right implementation (unconstrained bY the conflict due to minimized dependencies).”
@ratchetfreak they have a team, I run slower with a soccer ball :'(
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Can't do a.b = b, have to do a.b.c = b.c; a.b.d = b.d. Blame protobuffers.
@TelKitty If they catch you you get to claw them for bonus points.
08:40
hellow guys
Has anyone by any chance has written pintos file system ? :)
I'm actually rather surprised that SCARY iterators aren't guaranteed by the standard
I have a header file with std::string declarations, how do I extract all of them into just a list of strings? Can this be done with anything from the GNU toolkit?
Or is there a regex that'll achieve the same thing?
I've tried this: stackoverflow.com/questions/15800230/…, because -fdump-tree-vcg is unsupported with my version of GCC.
@nwp And remembered forever as the crazy local woman who stole soccer team's ball.
nwp
nwp
If you do the clawing right they will forget about the ball.
Hi @TelKitty
09:01
@Morwenn I swear people are now just trying to force funky names for 'features'
@thecoshman SCARY is a backronym: they're just called like that because they actually felt scary at first :p
> the insertion-order preservation nature of dict objects has been declared to be an official part of the Python language spec
:o
@Morwenn Yeah, my point still stands though :P
also "now"
Scary iterators date back to at least 2009, which is almost 10 years ago
09:24
Maybe it wasn't clear if some standard container would be unable to generalize its iterator?
Ven
Ven
10:17
@Morwenn 'tis a bit late though
@Ven why?
Ven
Ven
I mean, people have been relying on it for years already
The insertion-order preservation is only there since the new 3.6 dict implementation
So there's only been a single major release between the new implementation and CPython maintainers saying "ok, you can rely on the insertion order"
Ven
Ven
ô.o really?
my bad then. probably mixed it up with other languages
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Q: How to undo a git commit --amend

Jwan622I accidentally typed in a git commit --amend. This is a mistake because I realized that the commit is actually entirely new and it should be committed with a new message. I want to make a new commit. How do I undo this?

This question is marked as a duplicate, but its answer is miles and miles better than the "original" one :\.
nwp
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10:59
Reopen and close as duplicate the other way around.
Ven
Ven
@nwp i need it to be reopened first, which isn't gonna happen
11:16
@benardier hello
@TelKitty I found a solution to my problem: I just used a combination of regex's.
good 2 know
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12:04
I received new specifications for a software GUI. It now allows to press cancel on an operation. It then asks "Cancel? Yes/No". Either choice cancels the operation.
Which creates the fun question of whether I should just implement the specification or ignore it.
@Ven don't you mistook it for collections.OrderedDict? :p
Ven
Ven
@Morwenn nah, i'm not versed enough into python for that. my brain just has troubles remembering which of the languages I know guarantee order.
I don't even know whether any kind of order is guaranteed with std::unordered_map
Ven
Ven
12:16
the clue's probably in the name
nwp
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There is probably something about elements being in bucket order or something.
Ven
Ven
well, yeah, but that doesn't amount to much.
Unordered is about comparison order I guess, but Python dict, while having an roder, use a different order than std::map, so...
> Which bucket an element is placed into depends entirely on the hash of its key.
Well, here is probabloy the answer
> Le Canada ne se laissera pas intimider par cette crapule d’opérette
golden
 
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@nwp if the operation finishes before yes|no is selected, will you inform them after the selection? :p
nwp
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@ABuckau Click the arrow that appears on mouse-over on the right of not your own message to reply to a specific message.
Mouse?
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Yes. Or touchpad or touchscreen or whatever.
Someone said when the operation finishes in the menu it should jump to the completion screen which I find highly confusing and will only do when specifically requested to do so.
What is the equivalent of mouse-over on a touch screen..? Long press? I don't think there is a standard. And I'm on an old device..
Never mind? It depends how you're taking the input for cancelation : most simple is a dialog box, but maybe you're using gui elements that can simply be hidden (etc) if the job completes before they select.
If not, its weird that 'both will cancel the event', but will cause..confusion, if the event already finished.
I'm almost to bed, excuse me if I worded that badly.
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@ABuckau There is a stackoverflow app that probably solved that problem somehow.
17:28
WTF is the game about?
@nwp perhaps it can solve your problem also.
Not my problem : p if you got it, good, if not, I'm asleep soon anyway.
nwp
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@wilx Exploration/survival/eye-candy game, probably with some shooter/trading/building/story/mystery/horror elements. Seems like it could be fun.
What does it mean for a game console to be 8-bit, 16-bit etc? (E.g Sega Master System was 8-bit.) Does it refer to address space? Number of colors?
Nintendo 64 was a 64-bit machine. I can't imagine it needing 64-bit color values. Or even 64-bit address space.
17:44
depending on the person saying that
most often marketing
blame Atari Jaguar
@milleniumbug Ok, makes sense.
> Atari Corp. tried to play down competing consoles by proclaiming the Jaguar was the only "64-bit" system. This claim is questioned by some, because the CPU (68000) and the GPU executed a 32-bit instruction-set, but sent control signals to the 64-bit graphics co-processors (or "graphics accelerators").
Reading the technical specifications below that paragraph on wikipedia gets even more fun
> "Tom" Chip, 26.59 MHz Graphics processing unit (GPU) – 32-bit RISC architecture, 4 KB internal RAM, all graphical effects are software-based.
> "Jerry" Chip, 26.59 MHz Digital Signal Processor – 32-bit RISC architecture, 8 KB internal RAM
> Motorola 68000 "used as a manager". General purpose 16/32-bit control processor, 13.295 MHz
so basically their GPU has some 64-bit dedicated instructions
> Object Processor – 64-bit non-programmable; provides all video output from system.
Blitter – 64-bit high speed logic operations, z-buffering and Gouraud shading, with 64-bit internal registers.
DRAM controller, 8, 16, 32 and 64-bit memory management
it's as if you had called your modern i7 CPU "512-bit" because they have AVX512
So basically the "64-bit" label didn't mean much.
 
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@milleniumbug What is the endianess for those 512 bits?
@sehe Evening. Good to meet you again.
Did someone say AVX512? :P
@Mysticial I got bit by endianness last saturday for the first time in 20 odd years. I'm thinking that's your specialty!
@Mysticial The thing that bit was only 32 bits, so it might be beneath your stature =)
Apparently ARGB8888 is very different from ARGB32.
19:40
Also 8+8+8+8 is not 32
Is this the room to bitch about the SO UI changed? :P
@Borgleader You can turn off that stupid sidebar in the settings.
@CaptainGiraffe :bows:
20:01
@Mikhail For me 8 + 8 + 8 + 8 == 32. But then again I'm only using arithmetic.
20:18
@StackedCrooked at least the n64 did nominally have a 64bit processor although it didn't do the thing much good
20:42
from Stroustrup's page "cmplx& z3 = *new cmplx(z+d); // Java style (assuming Java could overload +)"
savage
and leaky, you can do away with the *new because of lifetime extension
nwp
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std::auto_ptr<cmplx> fix{&z3};
2 wrongs make a right!
21:15
also nobody would do that in Java, something like a.add(b) is what I did on Android with complex DSP.
 
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@strikeone88 @johnregehr @hasherezade Sorry. Years of teaching/tutoring have removed my patience with "quick fixes" to the wrong problem.
I should have known
> Developer, designer, inventor, and mostly hobbyist of a bunch of stuff. But without any doubt, a gamedev.

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