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00:00
Also ads for food (or ads in general? I forgot) are banned on kid channels
@VeronikaPrüssels They cannot be sold in public schools here
@набиячлэвэлиь Polen is great
(nota bene: "soda machines" are nonexistant in schools)
user406009
@VeronikaPrüssels We are talking about banning large sodas for the entire population.
user406009
Which is a significantly different argument than banning it in schools.
user406009
00:01
Schools are enclosed areas full of "vulnerable" minors.
Not really
Adults are just grown up kids
Many of them as still vulnerable as fuck
I love how people drink soda ligth to stay in better shape while they could simply give up on soda altogether.
Also time to miss the bus, ttyl
I drink soda because it has caffeine
@VeronikaPrüssels You don't say ._____.
@VeronikaPrüssels Bye, don't forget to update your description :p
00:02
@Mikhail your better off having a bit of black coffee
@Morwenn Apparently it's not obvious for some? (See above)
Why?
@Mikhail You might as well drink coffee or tea.
@Morwenn When I was in high school, one of my class mates dug up a large pot plant and transplanted it right in front of the (Catholic) high school. First day of our senior year, that was just about the first thing we saw walking up to the school. Best part was a couple of nuns looking at it saying something like: "My, that's a strange looking oak tree." and the other replying something about: "no, oak leaves are rounded. These are pointed; it must be maple."
00:03
@JerryCoffin Wow.
Sounds as naive as North Korea people.
They apparently couldn't quite understand why all the kids found that funny.
@Morwenn I think "delusional" is probably more accurate. Since my parents were poor, I did cleaning after school to help pay tuition. Was cleaning a bathroom one day and noticed the butt of a joint, with the water stained quite green. Didn't really think before commenting to the school principl that somebody must have had to toss their joint before finishing it. He truly looked shocked and told me that "nobody at this school would ever use illegal drugs."
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Q: Why c= 7? C is undeclared, how suddenly 7

D.RuaPlease, tell me why c is 7 I try to learning, and lose my virginity. Please help. Edit: I paste the whole code . The score remains is c = 7 #include "stdafx.h" #include <iostream> #include <conio.h> int _tmain(int argc, _TCHAR* argv[]) { using namespace std; int a = 5, b = 3, c = 2...

>> and lose my virginity.
user406009
> I try to learning, and lose my virginity.
00:09
Should we edit it?
user406009
I want to know what sort of learning helps you lose your virginity.
I assume there is a translation error here
user406009
That's the true question which needs answering.
of course, assuming makes an ass out of u and me
@Lalaland How to lie convincingly to women, would apparently be the main route.
00:11
The real problem is where to find them
user406009
@jaggedSpire My guess is that it was something like "I try to X and then I got screwed up"
user406009
I don't really know how other languages use the word "fuck" though.
user406009
I know in English we use it for pretty much everything.
it's a very nice word.
@jaggedSpire Yeah--and this was the late 1970's or early 1980's. At the time, South Dakota was apparently a pretty heavy drug using state too--this would have been about the time that the largest drug bust in history (up to that time) happened in South Dakota (around 30,000 pounds of controlled substances, if I recall correctly).
00:16
the pocket knife of words, really
@JerryCoffin huh
I guess willful ignorance is an extremely powerful force
@jaggedSpire How does that line go? Something about: "None so blind as he who will not see"?
> None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see.
according to the internet
@Lalaland IRTA "once I'll learn this, I'll lose my virginity"
If it's so, then that's a helluva motivation by someone, and the OP should make more effort
00:28
Meh, not that much of a motivation really ._.
a level of dedication to teaching I will likely never reach
user406009
@milleniumbug Lol. Let's see if someone flags that.
00:51
Does CUDA support MSVC 2015?
user406009
@Mikhail you should ping Cicada
So, NSight 5 now supports MSVC 2015. I wonder why.
to taunt you :v
00:58
I would like to share even more music at an insane spam rate, but I guess that I will go to sleep instead.
Good night/whatever to y'all!
spam them on discord in #music
@Morwenn we have a #music channel on discord for that :v
but sleep is good, too.
@Morwenn G'night.
@melak47 But that ain't no fun :(
Dedicated channels suck.
but then again so do you!
01:00
It remains to be proven :o
@Morwenn Good to know. Next time my boss yells at me for being a slacker, I'll tell him that dedicated is bad. I'm sure that'll get me a raise, right?
@Morwenn semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui negat
@JerryCoffin Right!
@VeronikaPrüssels I don't have enough energy left to decipher latin, I'm out :p
> Menton : un homme armé d'une faucille abattu par la police
Cosplay Reaper IRL, @Luc?
01:29
One of those days that having a long memory yields (at least mildly) interesting results.
For what it's worth, this question/algorithm (and the oddity of 196 when reversed and added this way) has been around a long time. Just for example, it was in the inaugaral issue of one of the first magazines for small computers: Creative ComputingJerry Coffin 5 mins ago
> Because nothing holds more truth than pure code
But what about the Bible!
01:42
> 4chan founder Chris Poole will try to fix social at Google
user4196492
Hey, I come from the Java chat lounge. I am starting C++ and I am just introducing myself real quick. Call me pebble
user406009
@pebble225 Welcome to the Lounge!
user406009
@pebble225 We have a list of rules that you might want to quickly look over.
Ell
Ell
Hi pebble
user4196492
Quick question though. I need help getting started and I wanted to know if it would be better to use Eclipse (for C++) or just use CodeBlocks for when I am just learning the basics.
user4196492
01:56
And I looked through the rules. :)
Avoid CodeBollocks
Avoid Eclipse
user4196492
how about eclipse?
user4196492
both?
If you're just starting any standard text editor should do
(Wait are you on Windows?)
user4196492
Yea windows
01:57
Then Eclipse should be OK I guess
Or VS Community
user4196492
Let's say I became good at C++ eventually and I wanted to make a game to publish on Gamejolt or something. What should I best use?
On Windows VS is unmatched IMO
user406009
@pebble225 If you are on windows, I would recommend codeblocks.
user406009
At least, just for getting started.
02:00
+1 for Visual Studio Community
There is also Qt Creator, or CLion.
user4196492
Okay so I will probably use VS, but I don't like all that window building software where you drag the buttons and everything. I wanted to do nice simple coding on a text edit screen. Does VS include something like that.
@pebble225 You'll die from issues with dependencies and curse the gods for not having given the gift of modules.
@pebble225 Yes. Make a console application.
user4196492
Yea I thought so
@pebble225 Yeah, console apps
user4196492
02:02
okay
Just use VS Community tbh
user406009
@Nooble Shh, it's coming.
user406009
Just wait.
user406009
And pray.
@Lalaland I was told the same thing about Half Life 3.
user4196492
02:03
Now I read the rules and I really don't want to go in and out of here asking questions all the time, so what else do you guys do here besides answering questions?
Which comes first, C++ Modules or Half Life 3?
user406009
@pebble225 Talk about random stuff. Sometimes politics. Sometimes C++ standardization.
Ell
Ell
@pebble225 lol we mostly don't answer questions
user406009
It's mainly a chat room for similarly minded individuals.
Ell
Ell
We chat
user406009
02:04
And C++ attracts a certain crwod.
@pebble225 Complain about languages that is not C++, and praise Haskell for it's magnificence.
user4196492
hahaha, I see how jumping in and out asking questions could get annoying
hahahahahaah I am glad you see that
user406009
@Nican Well, Half Life 3 is never coming, so Modules.
which is funny because you've been doing just that
user406009
02:05
Screw Valve.
@Nican Complain about C++ too.
user406009
They used to make some of the best games.
user406009
But now they just make hats.
And its lack of modules.
@pebble225 I just checked. It is just an "Empty Project" in VS.
user4196492
02:06
okayokayokayokayokay Im done :3
:3
user406009
@Nooble In the meantime, you can read the latest module proposal: open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2016/p0142r0.pdf
user406009
Hot off the latest mailing press.
user4196492
anyone know thenewboston?
02:14
@pebble225 not so great tutorials
user4196492
thanks
...did you just link to cinch's tutorials?
02:37
@jaggedSpire Yes.
The most wonderful of all tutorials.
...right
@Lalaland s/minded/mindless/, perhaps?
@VermillionAzure Hi.
@Nooble Did yu really
why
02:42
@VermillionAzure <3
@Nooble No seriously why
They're really not that well done
@VermillionAzure They're alright.
Especially compared to the other online tutorials.
@Nooble Meh.
user406009
@VermillionAzure They are actually rather decent at telling people how to set up a simple, starting dev environment.
@Nooble But what makes it better?
user406009
02:44
A lot of other resources skip over that step.
user406009
A step which can actually be sort of hard to really new people.
@Lalaland Mmm yeah I thought so I tried to put that in
@VermillionAzure not using namespace std for one
user406009
@VermillionAzure And I know people sometimes joke about them, but I wouldn't be ashamed at them.
user406009
Those tutorials are a pretty good piece of work.
02:45
@Lalaland blushes
02:56
@Lalaland congrats on the 5k
user406009
@nick Yeah, you were the one who pointed out that I've been at 4990 for like a long time now.
user406009
@nick How is HK by the way? Haven't seen you here in while.
user406009
Hope you are doing well.
haha
it's good, lifes busy though
user406009
Yeah, sometimes that's a good thing though.
03:01
For me yeah, I needed a change of pace
@CatPlusPlus oh you sneaky bastard with you're more stars
user406009
@nick If you don't mind me asking, how is the logistics for an American moving to HK anyways?
user406009
How hard is it to get around without fluency in Chinese?
@Lalaland From what I heard it's eh
user406009
How long do you think it will take you to pick up the language?
03:12
@Lalaland Oh wow, congrats on 5k!
user406009
@VermillionAzure Thanks.
user406009
I've always had this strange desire to move out of the country.
Also, I've decided on my next project
@Lalaland Oh nooooooooo
make sure that you read the history of japan first
user406009
It's probably just my internal desire to run away from my problems.
@nick ;)
user406009
03:13
Which of course wouldn't get solved regardless.
@Lalaland What do you mean?
Also this is hillarious ^^
Napaj fo yrotsih
Anyways... I'm going to build a semi-version of Lisp, me thinks
or something like that...
user406009
03:31
@VermillionAzure Sometimes I feel like I am sorta inadequate.
@Lalaland Isn't that everyone?
fuck japan
@Lalaland You're not alone :0
user406009
@VermillionAzure Eh. It's just so much easier to remember the mistakes than the successes.
@Lalaland Don't worry :)
03:33
fuck everone
@CatPlusPlus fairly sure I'mnot failing at punctuationm etierh,,,, in those tstar mesagedes that is
@Lalaland sorry was in a discussion
yeah no worries about language
At least if you live on the island near Central you will never have to learn another language (although it might come in handy)
someone give me the tl;dr on ibruproen
doesgae wise
03:49
200 mg or it doesn't count
200mg up to 600 at once if you're a babby
lasts like 6 hrs
what does it actually relive any way?
I can't seem to find ibuprofen in HK it's so strange
pain and stuff
03:51
what sort of pain?
wtf capslock? you don't get to light up shit
04:03
Okay... So I'm testing out some AVX512 code on Linux through an emulator. And it breaks. The same code works fine in Windows.
Who do I blame? GCC, myself, or both?
Or perhaps Intel's emulator.
200 mg is fine
@Mysticial both
instructions, translated into mg go as follows: 200mg every 4-6 hours while symptoms persist, if pain or fever does not respond to 200mg, 400mg may be used. Do not exceed 1200mg in 12 hours, unless directed by a doctor.
there can be more complex dosages involved if you really care and have tablets that are, say, 50mg instead of 200mg, but it's not a huge issue.
@nick It failed on an integration test. I'm about 20% through running the "basic" unit tests, and they have all passed so far. I estimate a few more hours before those will run through. Unfortunately, I can't run all the tests because that will take months given that emulation is 100x slower.
There's a lot of open AVX512 bugs in GCC. But I have no idea if any of them apply here.
I've never had to go beyond 200mg, and usually a single dose lasts until the pain is gone.
also, I'm a huge weenie when it comes to pain
04:15
@Mysticial jesus christ those are some tests
i get frustrated when my tests take more than a second each
Normally, the tests take only a few hours to run. But "a few hours" multiplied by the 100+x emulation overhead and it will take a very looooooooong time.
I'm going to guess that's probably the cause of any bugs you come across
Haha even a "few hours" would make me lose my patience
I run them overnight.
Why do you need to test on an emulator though? for the lulz or what?
Because no processors have AVX512.
At least not outside of Intel.
04:23
@jaggedSpire I see 'mg' but can't read shit no more
how many mg is one of your tablets?
so essentially you're writing code to support other hardware that doesn't exist yet?
how noble
sooo...I might be rocking out so hard I'd kick myself out my house :\
@nick I've been doing that for years.
if you ignore the typing shit thing
04:30
wat
http://techcrunch.com/2016/03/07/microsoft-is-bringing-sql-server-to-linux/
@Mysticial what could I do with AVX1024 when that becomes a thing?
Oh fuck... I think I found the problem.
actually I'm curious- in which fields do you see a distinct advantage for wider bit registers, seeing as most everything maxes out at 64 bits?
sweet
dropped a semicolon amirite
There's one code-path (not AVX related) that gets miscompiled for everything up through GCC 5.2. (it's fixed in GCC 5.3)
I explicitly disable the code-path if it's GCC 5.2 or older.
But I force it back on if I'm targeting Intel Broadwell or later.
I'm using GCC 5.2 atm, and the AVX512 version targets Skylake - which is later than Broadwell.
So it's using that codepath that gets miscompiled.
@nick the thing is I don't think most people care for more than 64 bits integers/floats, the thing that matters is the SIMD width
hence the AVX512 etc
04:35
sure
The wider the better, namsayin
I would like to see larger datatypes than 64-bit. But the hardware needed to support it is not enough in demand to spend the silicon for it.
@VeronikaPrüssels fo sho
but for SIMD it seems to me that at a certain point you might just be better off using opencl or something
What Intel wants to do is to make the SIMD as powerful as the GPU.
@nick What do you mean
04:37
And this is all on-chip, so there's no overhead of offloading and stuff.
OpenCL on CPU just maps to regular AVX instructions :w
given that it only really has advantages in certain situations, and all of those would be better off run on the GPU anyhow
@Mysticial i see, that makes a lot of sense
@nick That's not true, OpenCL isn't like CUDA, it's not GPU-exclusive, it's way more abstract and caters for a much wider range of devices
@VeronikaPrüssels I meant GPU stuff, actually wasn't aware that opencl used CPU :P
CPU, GPU, FPGA, even multiple hosts actually
You can express MPI purely in terms of OpenCL
04:38
how liberal
Hey! It's not erroring... yet.
Looks like my suspicion on what was wrong was correct.
great, now you just have to wait 4 hours to be sure :)
The "small" end-to-end tests only take a few seconds on native hardware and a few minutes under AVX512 emulation.
But the "complete" set of unit tests take a few hours on native hardware, and 4+ weeks under AVX512 emulation.
I've only run the complete set (for AVX512 with emulation) once back in October.
And they passed.
did you take yourself out for a beer afterwards?
lolno
04:45
the grind don't stop
user4196492
This website makes me want to give up and kill myself. People on stack overflow steal my motivation to be what I want to be. I plan to become a professional game designer one day. The only language I now that I can make a good graphics game with is Java. I ask very thorough questions on this site and assholes vote me down because what the fuck. I can't get any of my C++ code to work and there is literally no one to help me.
The AVX512 tests aren't as important. Since the AVX512 binaries aren't publicly available. Nobody outside of Intel can run them anyway.
user4196492
I don't want to ask questions on here because I will probably get banned.
But I do regularly run the "short" set of tests which has decent code-coverage for the run-time needed.
@pebble225 To be fair, asking a question here is actually more demoralizing than asking on SO.
I'm just the one who's nice enough to tell you that.
user4196492
Most of you people have a ton of reputation on here while I get stepped on because people hate when I say anything.
04:55
that's because you are a pebble
user4196492
This goes with any forum. People just hate everything I say when I post it, no matter what I say.
user4196492
@nick you think I'm in the mood for jokes?
One day you will become a rock
user4196492
No
user4196492
04:56
one day I am going to hang myself because people in this world tell me that I'm shit
great way to prove them right
If I were you I'd piss them off by staying alive
In fact that's what I do all day everyday and it works great
When people give you shit, ask if it's a healthy stool.
user4196492
I have a question.
user4196492
what is wrong with this post: stackoverflow.com/questions/28078186/…
user406009
@pebble225 You don't have enough code in your question.
user406009
04:59
The trick to a good stackoverflow question is to have a nice, minimal, complete example of your problem.

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