Discussion on question by Mark: Why has Stack Overflow been publicly silent about race issues?

Discussion on question by Mark: Why h

Imported from a comment discussion on https://meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/398117/why-has-stack-overflow-been-publicly-silent-about-race-issues
1646d ago – Andreas
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Jun 10, 2020 05:52
You asked, "Why has StackOverflow not made a public statement that supports the Black Lives Matter movement?". When presented with a public statement that was made, you call it "an empty statement at it's best". Perhaps you should clarify exactly the statement you expect to see from an online programming question/answer forum. Then you ask, "What will StackOverflow do to help end racism and promote diversity, inclusion and equality in our industry?", but follow that up with "I don't expect them to fix this. I expect us to fix this." Somehow this question feels as empty as the tweet.
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Jun 10, 2020 07:42
Well spoken @Scratte I'm not American either so I agree with you. This page is international and unrelated to skin colors. Had this page been named "The American SO" then those who are not American know they are "outsiders" but without knowing facts, I would guess there are more non American than American here.
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Jun 10, 2020 07:26
When I log into Stack Overflow, I am anonymous, in a sense that nobody knows my color, religion, gender, wealth or any other thing that would make others in the real world favour or discriminate against me. The only thing that matters here is the quality of my contributions. I think we already all matter here, and we are already all equal here. Perhaps that is the message that Stack Overflow should make, instead of pointing or focusing on "one house".
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Jun 10, 2020 05:52
I don't know what the 'Black Lives Matter' movement is. The name means little to me, being the equivalent name to the '2+2=4' movement and seemingly chosen to encourage the fallacy that, if you do not support the effort, then you are claiming that black lives do not matter, (which is utterly false). I am not willing to provide active support to a 'movement' I have not researched.
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Jun 10, 2020 05:52
Please don’t ruin Stack Exchange by bringing politics into the community. If any commentary on BLM is for or against a political party, I will be very sad, this great community has started to become intolerable. If you were going to speak out, last week should have been it, the motivation behind a week and half late response is obvious. Twitter and Facebook both are horrible due to their political statements in recent years
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Jun 10, 2020 05:52
@Mark No, that is not what I'm saying. If there's momentum, then it should be used. But I don't see how a small international company can really make a change though. It needs to come from the people and government local to the problem. How can someone from Berlin help with this? Or from Mogadishu? Perhaps their house is on fire too.
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Jun 10, 2020 07:13
@Mark I do not live in the US, so this problem is not local to me. I'm looking at it from the outside where I see a lot of houses on fire. So when Stack Overflow makes a statement about "one house", what does that mean for their support or opinion about all the other houses? Do they matter less because they were not mentioned? It's not straight forward. It's politics.
Jun 10, 2020 05:52
Prior efforts to inject politics into SO have not gone well
Jun 10, 2020 05:52
Start paying more taxes, Mark. That's what you can start doing today.
Jun 10, 2020 05:52
The sad thing about this entire post is that people are being violated all the time. I don't mean any disrespect, but why this case? Why not the girl that got sentenced to death for fighting off her attacker in some other country? Why not the native in a jungle that got killed for logging rights?
Jun 10, 2020 05:52
@Zoe Somehow it seems that's trying to make my point invalid. Imagine all the houses on fire but all the attention going to only one of them.
Jun 10, 2020 05:52
What @Scratte says. With such homicides, anyone even remotely moral would consider them wrong, and there does not seem to be much point in explicit 'statements of solidarity'. In the specific case that initiated the current unrest, can the US Judiciary deal with it and, if not, the US citizens with a vote? I cannot pursue US legal actions or vote executives out of office.