Conversation started Apr 12, 2013 at 19:21.
Apr 12, 2013 19:21
@Telkitty Bloddy mark as NSFW. Next time, it's flag for moderator time again
@BartekBanachewicz too late though:
8 hours ago, by ThePhD
Left-arrow operator.
@sehe plastic chick right? Still NSFW thou
@JohanLarsson I dunno. It looked dangerous
I alwasy multi-ping when I ping, think my average is 3
Too much skin?
Telkitty is a repeat offender. I can't be asking politely forever. She's aiming for the very edge of what she can get away with
@Rapptz ...
Apr 12, 2013 19:24
What? I'm serious.
@refp Ah, did I remember to plink you :)
@sehe Oh cmon, I'm not gonna actually make that. It's such a waste. :c
@ThePhD No. The fear is not that you'll redo something evil. The fear is that it will give you ideas and you will use it in a deadly mix to create a far greater contraption
@Rapptz She's buck-naked.
@Rapptz Not something you want on your screen at work really, not any picture imo. Looks like Facebook, embarrassing
Apr 12, 2013 19:26
@ThePhD Hence, too much skin.
Then what kind fo question is "Too much skin" ?
Of course there's too much skin: she's naked !
I'm laughing at the ridiculousness of it.
@ThePhD I think it's a doll, by the way. Just went back to have a second look. @Rapptz is being dense
Then again maybe it's because I'll never understand it
Dense? No, I think the entire premise is flawed.
Apr 12, 2013 19:27
Go ahead. Don't ever understand. But try to adapt
I didn't look long enough to see if it was a doll...
@ThePhD Me neither, first time
There's no point in adapting because I don't post things like that because people get so offended so easily.
It's impossible to please anyone
It's not really being offended, so much as it's still Friday during the week and people may be at work.
That, and uh. Wives and shit.
I don't think anyone was offended, everyone watches prn of course, probably not that many do it at work.
Apr 12, 2013 19:29
@Rapptz You know, not all content is appropriate for all audiences. Cultural differences exist. SO has a code for this, and I think I remember the lounge has it in the newbie hints too.
This picture had zero relevance and was posted without warning. That is just unnecessary. We don't need you to understand or agree. It is just that way.
@JohanLarsson Also because there is no sexual implication in the image at all really unless you try hard and make it seem like there is one. Being nude seems to be a very offending thing in America and in Europe now (at least based from this chat).
@Rapptz That's a mighty big contradiction there. I appreciate that you already adapted.
@sehe Yeah hence I'll never get it. Someone's nude, someone feels offended despite there being no sexual connotation it.
Hm. I wonder if nude automatically equals sexual?
No.
Apr 12, 2013 19:30
Still, nude is inapropriate for work & school & (sometimes) home.
@Rapptz I mean in people's minds.
@Rapptz It's not offense. It's just not acceptible. Where the hell do you live :)
@ThePhD It's American culture.
@Rapptz ^^
@sehe Wherever he lives, if fine bitches be walkin' around like dat, I want in!
xD
Apr 12, 2013 19:31
@sehe I live in America. Coincidentally no one cares about nude images so long as there's no sexual connotation it.
And you know what, I'm happy about that.
At least it's fair.
@Rapptz You live in one very liberal slice of America.
@Rapptz Right. I wish you much fun in the work place
@Rapptz Cough. "Fair" doesn't exist. We're all animals.
@ThePhD Or one that understands that human beings are inherently animals.
called it
If I got a nude picture anywhere but in the total privacy of my home without anyone else around, people would flip shit out.
Apr 12, 2013 19:32
2 mins ago, by Rapptz
@sehe Yeah hence I'll never get it. Someone's nude, someone feels offended despite there being no sexual connotation it.
4 mins ago, by Rapptz
There's no point in adapting because I don't post things like that because people get so offended so easily.
Well, it also has implications for children and such.
Heaven forbid they see skin.
There's also the problem of genitals and such.
I mean, usually that's something you come to learn later on.
Not when you're like, 4.
What?
Technically, you can be naked and your genitals can be showing. In that case, nude isn't really good for children and such, which is why you can't just have people walk around naked.
(In my mind, anyways).
Apr 12, 2013 19:35
@Rapptz Can you understand my view that I'm not offended at all, the opposite in fact. Just that I would be embarrassed to have it on my screen at work just like I would be embarrassed to have Facebook open.
@ThePhD Can you give me one or two points why you believe that?
@Rapptz Heaven forbid they get a skewed idea of beauty, sexuality, indecent exposure. Go explain to your 7 year old daughter that it's okay for the models to be butt naked and in strange positions, but, no, we really don't think it's a good idea for her to do the same when in the park (kids do these things.)
@JohanLarsson Offended means to be irritated, annoyed, or angered by something
@ThePhD genitals have nothing to do with it (except when actively used -> porn)
@sehe I dunno, I didn't figure out girls had another set of genitals until I was like 6-5ish.
Apr 12, 2013 19:36
I hope you realise I'm talking about nudity without sexual connotation.
@Rapptz Not the point. Hampered, troubled, hindered.
@sehe What strange positions are human beings doing outside of the sexual spectrum that is so inherently weird?
@Rapptz The point is, you can't explain the difference at all times.
@Rapptz See that picture.
@sehe I can't?
?
Why not. Why are you even debating this if you didn't even take the effort to look at things?
Apr 12, 2013 19:38
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Well, let me find the image again, I closed it.
All I saw was a woman, presumably, who was leaning towards the camera in a crawling position. Probably one of the few that can be seen as ambiguous.
And also, please stop being dense. You know exactly how it works. And yes, you're in a position that allows you to stay in the bubble and idealistically wish all problems associated with nudity away (beliefs, social norms, lust). Please continue to be happy with that. But don't continue to argue what you know is not commonly accepted.
@Rapptz It's not about that. It's about the norms for normal public exposure.
what does it take for a pic to have 'sexual connotation'? Penetration? double penetration?
@JohanLarsson The balls have to be touching.
Apr 12, 2013 19:40
@JohanLarsson A 'youporn' url watermark, obviously
@JohanLarsson Penetration, masturbation, or implicit suggestion.
@Rapptz Hm. Does that mean a sexy come-hither look?
.... What defines a sexy come-hither look, anyhow?
How much nakedness makes it sexy?
Or suggests it?
@ThePhD Something like this, nsfw (no nudity)
Usually determined by look and position.
You see. That's decidedly NSFW in every environment I know
Lol, she's wearing high-heels in bed.
Some girls these days.
Apr 12, 2013 19:43
@sehe It has sexual connotation so.. yeah?
Then consider something else like this. Nsfw? (nudity)
ok strange discussion and I don't even know the language. I don't want to be the prude either, gonna watch some prn now to repair the damage.
... huh? So. You magically divined this as a sexual look? This is ridiculously close the logic of a rapist saying "she wanted me to, she had that look".
Determined by look and position :|
You implicitly had the same thought as well.
I don't get how when I say it it's bad but when you imply it isn't?
@Rapptz What makes it have sexual connotations, though?
The high-heels?
The way her body's curved?
TBH, sometimes I find myself in that position in passing.
When stretching and shit.
Sigh. The way the body is curved, the heels, the images in the clipboard, the fact she's on the bed, and the look she's giving
Apr 12, 2013 19:46
What if she was on the floor? :O
The top of a sky-scraper?
Maybe she's into that~
"SCREW ME NEXT TO THE LIGHTNING ROD!!"
Oh hither nevermind then
Luuulz.
@Rapptz Someone may very well masturbate to that. I can't say for sure (I wouldn't).
People would masturbate to anything, what kind of indicator is that?
What kind of indicator is body position and location?
@Rapptz Nope. I thought is was fully equivalent to the other picture we were discussing before my eyes hit the magazines that seem to show skin as well
Apr 12, 2013 19:48
People masturbate to animated ponies
What's this thread about anyway
@CatPlusPlus =[ That's scary.
@CatPlusPlus We're discussing things like nudity & social norms.
Basically me vs everyone else and I'm dense since I'm alone.
And what "crosses the line" from sexual connotations to non-sexual.
@CatPlusPlus A thing that Telkitty dropped here.
@sehe Oh
That clears things up
Apr 12, 2013 19:50
@Rapptz I'm not saying I disagree. What I'm trying to get to is that the rules can vary so widely that when dealing across cultures, workplaces, and other things, you define the most conservative ruleset possible.
@Rapptz not dense but maybe not with monopoly on judging what is sexual either?
@ThePhD +1
I didn't claim I had a monopoly on what is considered sexual.
@ThePhD I've already mentioned this but thanks for repeating it anyway.
What has 0 sexual connotation to one person will be the sexiest, most flagrant thing in the world to another (e.g., a single male will not find the frog-lady image offensive, like a Mother of 3 children would shoot the person that showed that image to her or her children).
@Rapptz yet you think it's very necessary to debate a NSFW (...) picture...
Apr 12, 2013 19:51
23 mins ago, by Rapptz
There's no point in adapting because I don't post things like that because people get so offended so easily.
^ I posted this three times now if anything.
People who get offended should be offended
@Rapptz Oh my gosh we agree. <3
<333 It's like we were meant for each other~
The only NSFW rule we need is "no oneboxing"
@Rapptz Perhaps people find your mixed message hard to grok:
22 mins ago, by sehe
@Rapptz That's a mighty big contradiction there. I appreciate that you already adapted.
@CatPlusPlus aaaand NSFW warning
Well yes tag it
Apr 12, 2013 19:53
:)
@sehe Ugh this sentence makes me more mad than it should.
So I'm just going to ignore it
@CatPlusPlus The importance of tagged_value s~
BOOST_STRONG_TYPEDEF( int, nsfw_tag );
@ThePhD I think people who get offended over something like nudity get offended too easy.
Up to you to agree on that notion.
Fuck people who get offended
@Rapptz I know, the (...) is short for, "at least according to some members of this lounge". I had hoped you could muster a little flexibility in communication. Written communication is hard enough, without assuming bad intentions.
Apr 12, 2013 19:55
@Rapptz I agree, but there are situations where I think that nudity is not appropriate and sometimes worth getting offended over.
It's about not getting fired for chatting or something
E.g., if I decided to walk in nude to your house and chat it up. :3c
You should not give a fuck about people getting ~offended~
@ThePhD Nudists exist fyi.
clothes exist
Apr 12, 2013 19:56
Zing!
 
Conversation ended Apr 12, 2013 at 19:56.