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4:00 PM
@BartekBanachewicz That's fairly typical. A "normal" kernel is typically optimized for average response time. A real time kernel is (more or less of necessity) optimized for worst-case response time -- at the expense of the average typically getting somewhat worse.
 
Yesterday I played Malphite for the first time.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Well, yeah - there's a reason why desktop OS don't give real time guarantees.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Rock Solid.
 
I went with 6-1-13.
Not bad.
Dat ult.
 
..sounds like some sort of mineral.
 
4:01 PM
@EtiennedeMartel 1death uscrub y u so bad
 
@EtiennedeMartel I'm moving as fast as I can....
 
@MartinJames Malphite is a dude made of rock.
 
Did you build Hydra?
it works surprisingly well on him
 
Malphite is not a mineral. Proof: dwarffortresswiki.org/…
 
@BartekBanachewicz I didn't. I went for a tank build, since everyone else on my team was squishy.
 
4:02 PM
@EtiennedeMartel ..Googles - oh OK :)
 
@EtiennedeMartel I like him more on 3v3. He can really shine with armor/AD build
Also we're much higher on 3v3 than on 5v5...
 
how hard is it to pick up dwarf fortress
 
Oh and also our friend, as it seems, left a suicide letter for us. He left his LoL password there.
 
@Aboutblank very
 
@BartekBanachewicz Seriously?
 
4:04 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Who did?
 
See, this has to be a problem with my any.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes yeah. He also left a bunch of private notes for people.
 
Or something.
 
@BartekBanachewicz What.
 
4:05 PM
@Aboutblank By most accounts, it has a steeper learning curve than almost any other game in existence.
 
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "protext-setup.py", line 287, in <module>
  File "protext-setup.py", line 62, in __init__
  File "wx\_controls.pyc", line 494, in __init__
UnicodeDecodeError: 'cp949' codec can't decode bytes in position 4-5: illegal multibyte sequence
god damn it protext.
 
hah!
lol cp949.
 
Well it wasn't the only thing there, obviously. But he played with us a lot so I guess that makes sense.
 
Unicrash
 
I mean it doesn't make sense at all and life is fucking retarded but yeah.
 
4:05 PM
@Rapptz Are you using a Korean locale?
 
Yeah
 
Unicrud
 
You can't emplace with a hint, can you?
concenring unordered_map and map and fgriends
 
oh come on with that unicode
128 chars should be enough for everyone
 
@MartinJames Unicrash from Unitrash.
 
4:06 PM
Unicorned
 
Anyway Python2 sux.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Scons is still only 2.x, right?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes s/2// is oh so tempting about now...
 
I want custard tarts.
 
4:07 PM
:(
I don't want to switch code pages
too lazy.
 
I want LLVM-ES
 
and yeah it's using python27
 
I wonder how many nerd points I got for saying that. Scratches head
 
aDWQdwdefbjkjk
FUCK
 
none
 
4:09 PM
@BartekBanachewicz 3.2.
 
0.f on my scale.
 
@ShotgunNinja you are aware that 3.4 is the latest right?
 
Guys
 
What?
 
I need a scripting language.
 
4:09 PM
oh shuck I shouldn't talk about LLVM
@ThePhD Oh hey there :3
 
Python 3.3
 
C#, Lua, C++, or Python?
 
@BartekBanachewicz You are aware that it isn't, right?
 
two of those aren't scripting languages
 
4:10 PM
Or should I...
 
@ThePhD For what?
 
... ROLL MY OWN. <3333
2
@JerryCoffin Uh. I don't know.
 
@BartekBanachewicz That was how many nerd points you got, not a version number.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes the docs show 3.4 anyway
 
Ell
facepalm
 
4:10 PM
You're awful.
 
Ell
Use python. Or Lua
 
@BartekBanachewicz The latest is still 3.2.
 
@ThePhD certainly not
@R.MartinhoFernandes that's weird then
 
I just picked a random number.
 
@ThePhD Sounds like you don't need one after all.
 
4:11 PM
@BartekBanachewicz 5.1 > 5.2
 
@JerryCoffin But, uh. Seriously. It's for like, game scripting and stuff.
 
lol nice
 
Gameplay, that is.
AI and shit.
 
@BartekBanachewicz 3.3 is scheduled for June 5th.
 
@DeadMG setenv(Lounge, { Lounge = Lounge - Puppy})
 
4:11 PM
@ThePhD With an airtight specification like that, the choice should be easy and obvious!
 
So how should I go about doing this protext thing.
 
@JerryCoffin he should scripting language or shit
 
@BartekBanachewicz The online docs at llvm.org/docs always reflect the trunk. See llvm.org/releases (it also has docs for each release)
 
Maybe I should just make my own...
TBH, C# seems the easiest to parse.
I don't even know how Lua works.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes oh, thanks.
 
4:12 PM
C++: Buahahaha a nice thought but no.
 
@ThePhD :|
 
And Python.. ... python confuses me.
 
@ThePhD you are not supposed to parse it yourself silly
 
@BartekBanachewicz Uh... how do I interop with is then?
 
now, this might blow your mind
 
4:13 PM
"TBH, C# seems the easiest to parse." lolwuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuut
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Dude C# is so parser friendly. >_>
 
but you can use stuff like embedding component
 
@ThePhD Lisp.
 
@ThePhD by said language API
 
... Can I use Lisp?
 
4:13 PM
@ThePhD Not even close. C# is easier to parse than C++, but that's about the most you can say, and it's roughly like saying "this isn't as hard as a diamond."
 
ThePhD is on a derp road again
 
I mean he is nearly on telkitty level right now
 
=[
 
Seriously I have no idea how many levels of wrong are on "TBH, C# seems the easiest to parse.".
 
4:14 PM
"Parsing C#"
 
I'm just lost. ;~;
 
god what the fuck is going on here
 
Ell
c# is context sensitive
 
oh gawd
I thought I was confused
 
Okay, so C++ and C# are off the table.
That leaves Python and Lua.
 
4:14 PM
but it seems some are more confused than others
 
Parsing C# #shouldbeatopic
 
Ell
And ruby! <3
 
I do not understand javascript / Lua
 
lol wat
@ThePhD what's, like, hard in Lua?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't, I can't "read" Lua.
Like, I look at it and I'm like "... what is this?"
 
4:15 PM
Do you mean you can't read or?
@ThePhD oooohhh looook... a for loop
I wonder what this does.
 
1) parsing is pretty much irrelevant: dude you will have to run the whole thing, not spit out syntax trees. 2) most languages meant for this purpose have existing APIs for embedding, so you don't have to parse (and the rest of the whole compile-run shebang) the thing yourself. 3) you assumed you were going to parse the thing?
 
Oblivious Suburban Robot strikes again
You should kick me out of the room at this very moment.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Uh. Yeah, I did. I usually thought that's how it's done: you make a scripting service, parse in the things you like yourself, and then get going after you link it up to your underlying system.
 
@ThePhD Lisp is super parser friendly, so it makes Lisp the most obvious choice.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what about brainfuck?
 
4:17 PM
I wonder if I can understand Lisp code... let's go look at some.
 
I've heard it's easy to parse
 
@ThePhD You can't do anything with syntax trees!
 
@ThePhD aAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
 
FORGET ABOUT THE PARSING.
 
oh my god someone hold me
he is going to understand Lisp code
 
4:18 PM
;;; HWorld.lsp

;;; ================================================== ;;;
;;; =========== HELLO WORLD SIMULATION ============== ;;;
;;; ================================================== ;;;


;;; This function simply returns the string Hello World that is in quotes.

(DEFUN HELLO ()
  "HELLO WORLD"
)
 
You will have to run the thing.
 
^ It... uh. Looks sort of nice?
 
@ThePhD wait
 
nice?
that fucking fugly
 
Users will have to write in the thing.
 
4:18 PM
(let ((a 6)
       (b 4))
   (+ a b))
 
I don't know what your definition of nice is
but it doesn't fit mine
 
@Rapptz o.0
Yeah.... no. Lisp is out the window. ._.
Okay. Let's look at some Lua code...
 
@ThePhD But it's so easy to parse!
 
ThePhD is an unprogrammer.
 
Python code is quite literally in English.
Even its list comprehension reads off in English
 
4:20 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Well, there's a balance. It has to be nice to parse and sort of nice to write, also making fun of me q_q
 
[str(x) for x in list]
 
:s
Fuck natural languages
 
@ThePhD You are not going to parse any existing language.
 
@BartekBanachewicz You don't really parse brainfuck at all. Parsing is analyzing sequences of tokens to determine expressions, statements, etc. Brainfuck only has individual tokens, not statements or expressions, so there's no parsing involved.
 
GET PARSING OUT OF YOUR HEAD
KILL IT WITH FIRE
 
4:20 PM
@LucDanton Hey! Not cool.
 
okay oaky >_<
 
@ThePhD (apply #'send p :abline (0 1))
 
So
 
@JerryCoffin Haha! []!
 
I need a nice-to-write runtime.
 
4:21 PM
what?
 
My brainfuck is more powerful than yours!
 
Today, I discovered Perl's junctions. It's interesting, but I have no idea what it can be used for.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Still not a statement or an expression.
 
-- defines a factorial function
    function fact (n)
      if n == 0 then
        return 1
      else
        return n * fact(n-1)
      end
    end

    print("enter a number:")
    a = io.read("*number")        -- read a number
    print(fact(a))
 
4:21 PM
@JerryCoffin true.
 
^ This... is okay I guess?
 
@Rapptz No. Does it have to be?
 
@JerryCoffin Hm, why not?
 
The syntax is a bit weird but, how do you tell when a line ends?
 
@ThePhD no. That's a fail example
it doesn't use tailcall properly
so it will get a stack overflow
 
4:22 PM
It came from lua.org, so...
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How so?
 
Bartek you bimbo it's an example.
 
@ThePhD Lua can have infinite recursion if written properly
@Rapptz okay okay
 
Well, it's readable.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes How would its loop constitute an expression or statement?
 
4:22 PM
@ThePhD there's no such thing as a "line" in Lua
 
But, again, I don't know what consists of a single expression
 
Anything between 2 specific tokens?
 
put a semicolons if you need them sigh
 
like function and end ?
 
4:23 PM
@JerryCoffin It looks like a statement to me.
 
@ThePhD do you remember you are not going to parse it?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I also have to be able to write it, don't I?
 
@ThePhD well then, expression is pretty well defined.
 
(And if a parentheses-counting exercise for Lisp counts as parsing, why doesn't square-bracket-counting count as parsing for brainfuck?)
There are two tokens that must be used in a certain structure.
 
a = b
foo()
return 3,5
// imho doesn't really need semicolons
 
4:24 PM
I wonder if there's a C, C#, or C++-alike scripting language, I think I'd like to use that...
 
@ThePhD no you don't. You just think you would
 
Whether you want to call it a "statement" or not, it is a structure that exists a level above tokens.
 
Hm.
 
@ThePhD IMHO you should really try to write something in Lua
 
I don't think I want to go through the agony. :c
 
4:25 PM
because looking at random examples doesn't give you shit
 
The grammar is not brainfuck-program := token*
 
just get Corona SDK and make a game
Or remind me to put mine on github
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The first is really just a delimiter or marker. The second is a conditional goto. You can call it a statement if you want, but it's still completely embodied in a single token.
 
Is there any strongly-typed scripting language?
 
@ThePhD Terra
 
4:27 PM
Terra... I'll look it up.
 
user142019
Man.
 
@JerryCoffin Do you mean [- is a valid brainfuck program?
 
user142019
I just looked at my bank account.
 
user142019
I have only 3100 euros.
 
4:27 PM
class Message
{
  function this( text ) { this._text = text;  },
  function say()        { stdout.println( this.text );  }
  property text(v)      { get { return this._text; }
                           set { this._text = v; } }
}
 
^ Look how pretty!
 
@JerryCoffin (they are both gotos, btw)
 
@rightfold fuck you
 
It's almost like C.
 
4:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Define "valid". Regardless of whether it is, a Brainfuck VM isn't necessarily required to detect whether it's valid or not.
 
user142019
?
 
@ThePhD Lua is strongly typed.
 
@DeadMG ... It is?
 
yup
 
user142019
My teacher today said that Java was strongly typed because the types were known at compile time.
 
4:28 PM
@JerryCoffin What happens if the cell is zeroed when the VM reaches [-?
 
lol
 
well you can certainly make strong types yourself
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'll take your word for it -- it's been a while since I wrote a bf interpreter, so I don't remember all the details.
 
Well, Java is strong typed
 
afaik, Lua only performs type conversions implicitly in a very few scenarios... and they're quite sane
 
4:29 PM
Isn't it?
 
@JerryCoffin hey bf is cool
@R.MartinhoFernandes it executes anyway?
 
@Rapptz Strong vs weak typing is dumb, because nobody can really agree on what strong or weak typing is.
 
user142019
@Rapptz Yes, but not because the types are known at compile time. :P
 
@rightfold Well yeah, reasoning is a bit off.
 
@JerryCoffin Consider that the opening one needs to jump over the loop if the cell is already zeroed: i.e. if the loop never runs.
 
user142019
4:30 PM
It's confusing terminology.
 
Maybe I should jsut write a scripting language that suites my purposes...
 
@BartekBanachewicz If I didn't agree (at least a little) I wouldn't have bothered with writing the interpreter I already linked.
 
it will take you forever and the result will be shit.
just embed an existing language
 
=[
 
you could even embed C++ with Clang if you really wanted to
 
4:30 PM
@ThePhD You are a noob
 
But I don't like any of the existing languages.
 
..and you will have to parse it.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Executes what? It's supposed to jump to the next ].
 
but the usual candidates are JavaScript or Lua, maybe Python or C# (I'm not actually sure about the feasibility of embedding C# into a non-.NET program)
 
stop using stupid emotes for fucks sake
 
user142019
4:31 PM
I told him that he probably meant "static" instead of "strong" but we were both confused. xD
 
@Rapptz q_q I don't know. :c
 
I mean is this reasonable discussion or are you trying to I dunno, make us care more about your inability to google and tryouts?
 
user142019
s/emotes/emotions/
 
@ThePhD Yay! You can call it "TCL2" It'll be great!
 
@JerryCoffin TCL2?
 
4:31 PM
@JerryCoffin I betcha he doesn't even know what TCL is
here it comes.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Apparently so.
 
user142019
TLC
 
Noo! No tickle, please!!
 
@JerryCoffin For what is worth, its parent P′′ (almost same thing without IO) has a formal definition and it makes the loop construct an actual production in the grammar, i.e., unbalanced brakcets are invalid.
 
#expr function will be evaluated  faster, if curly braces are added on the equation.
set sum [expr {1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + 5}]
puts "The sum of the numbers 1..5 is $sum."
^ Looks uglish....
 
4:32 PM
@ThePhD the point is you are retardingly repeated "I don't know" over and over instead of just fucking reading or trying something out
 
I am reading.
 
@ThePhD wtf language is that, Perl?
 
@DeadMG TCL, apparently.
 
user142019
@DeadMG Tcl
 
user142019
It's Tcl, not TCL.
 
4:33 PM
@ThePhD I am merely pointing out the fact that whining is annoying, at least for me
 
It looks like a bash-alike.
 
Use Python (Boost.Python), JS(V8) or Lua(Lundi or Terra)
 
user142019
It looks like Ruby but ugly.
 
This whole conversation is a cock-blocker
 
4:34 PM
:c
 
user142019
@BartekBanachewicz CoffeeScript!
 
user142019
Also: needs moar Haskell!
 
I don't think I could reasonably script in Haskell...
Not because Haskell is bad, I just wouldn't be able to think functionally for the things I want to do.
 
I don't think you could write any reasonable code so w/e.
 
DO YOU EVEN LIFT?
 
4:35 PM
okey enough
I am getting hostile
 
user142019
@TonyTheLion DO YOU EVEN <*>?
 
why is nobody stopping me
 
@rightfold Applicatives :)
@BartekBanachewicz cause plonk
 
@TonyTheLion hm? which way?
 
I'm just not reading what you're saying
I'm mentally plonking you for a while
 
4:36 PM
oh.
 
unplonked
moving on
 
user142019
-- I once needed this function, but I couldn't think of a better name. Anyone ideas?
ap3 :: Applicative f => f a -> f b -> f c -> f (a, b, c)
ap3 x y z = (,,) <$> x <*> y <*> z
 
@DeadMG He replied with this cc @R.MartinhoFernandes
 
@rightfold Erm, what.
 
> You may experience an access violation when you access an STL object through a pointer or reference in a different DLL or EXE
> Most classes in the Standard C++ Libraries use static data members directly or indirectly.
MS obviously.
 
4:37 PM
@DeadMG, @R.MartinhoFernandes wanna play Catan?
 
"STL object" :(
 
@rightfold What about just liftA3 (,,)?
 
24 secs ago, by Bartek Banachewicz
MS obviously.
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes it was most useful in my case because tuples work well with pattern matching.
 
user142019
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm. Neat.
 
user142019
4:38 PM
Didn't think of that.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not sure what I'm supposed to do with that.
 
@TonyTheLion Maybe at the evening or something
 
inb4 in the evening
 
@TonyTheLion yes
 
@TonyTheLion Depending on where people are meeting, I might go out tonight, so probably not.
 
4:39 PM
:)
 
Which reminds me I should check where people are meeting.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Applies to: Visual C++ 6.
 
@BartekBanachewicz No use; I can't see anything you type.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Puppy said it's forbidden by the standard, if I read him correctly. I want your opinion.
 
@DeadMG fail
 
4:40 PM
@DeadMG so it's no longer true?
 
yep
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit what?
 
user142019
You know.
 
Ell
@ThePhD have you considered ruby as a scripting language?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Pardon? Can't hear you.
 
4:41 PM
@DeadMG anyway, your statement about "dawn of C++" seems untrue then
 
user142019
Facebook's poking feature is so annoying that I automated it.
 
@LightnessRacesinOrbit WHAT? I mean you're not that old
 
@BartekBanachewicz The Standard forbids Standard-library objects to share state which is hidden from the user. It's the same clause that bans things like CoW- basically, thou shalt not dick the user around w.r.t. magic hidden stdlib state.
 
ahem.
Welcome Gcc
 
@BartekBanachewicz It is. ODR means the definitions must match. User should stop linking the wrong DLL.
 
4:42 PM
@Ell but ruby is nearly as bad as perl :/ Also it's fucking slow.
 
@Ell Not really. I found AngelScript, though, which is pretty C-alike and looks clean enough. It's API is.. ... uh. Kinda messy.
 
Basically link to the same stdlib impl
> This behavior is by design.
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz ruby isn't slow :O
 
@ThePhD do you really have to look under every rock?
 
Ell
4:43 PM
Also, why is it as bad as perl?
 
@Ell ekhem. Data on it? I present you CodingHorror about Discourse and Ruby.
 
Ell
(warning: I don't know what perl is like)
 
Does 'magic hidden stdlib state' include the memory manager internal state?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Whose implementation of std::string still uses COW and is in violation of Standard.
 
@Ell Like Ruby. But worse.
 
4:43 PM
in any case
 
@DeadMG yeah, I was refering to that.
 
AngelScript looks nice...
 
@Ell precisely what robot said
 
the article on MSDN clearly states that it only applies to VC++ 6.
 
I wonder if there's anything else.
 
Ell
4:44 PM
idk how much that means :L
not much I guess.
 
user142019
@Ell MRI is slow as a dog.
 
Please hit me with something hard next time I will try to help @ThePhD
 
user142019
Also.
 
Ell
@rightfold MRI isn't used anymore
 
user142019
It isn't?
 
Ell
4:44 PM
they switched to YARV at 1.9.2 I think
 
I'm just exploring a lot of options. =/
 
Ell
but it's 2.0 now
 
user142019
Oh.
 
@Ell that means that JRuby is faster than any other ruby implementation, so go figure
 
@MartinJames What he means is that such state can only change through the mutating operations (in that case new and delete and so on). I.e. you cannot access the state, but it is advertised on the interface. std::vector::size is not allowed to change anything.
 
4:45 PM
> With Glibc 2.17 this enables a nanosecond resolution std::system_clock in the default configuration, yay!
That good? I remember there was some quirks regarding <chrono> and libstdc++ but I've never looked into it.
 
so, uh
just to make sure I'm up to date on this
 
@ThePhD also ignoring everything we answer to your questions. That's the reason I will hit myself if that's necessary. Have fun with AngelScript.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Hmm...
 
who wanted to play Catan?
 
Ell
@BartekBanachewicz wut. I thought I had ruby 2.0 vs python
Either way, ruby is still pretty kewl
 
4:46 PM
@Ell Ell, come on. You are comparing non-jitted implementations
that's like profiling Debug C++
 
Ell
idk, it was my first google result :P
I don't do benchmarks :L
And I don't understand that site xD
Let me try again
 
no
leave that site.
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm not ignoring everything you guys have said. I'm just exploring other options; that doesn't mean I'm not going to disregard everything everyone's said.
 
@ThePhD you're acting like you're doing precisely that
 
@ThePhD Just use Lua so he shuts up.
3
 
4:47 PM
@Ell IMHO no but there are people who think PHP is "pretty kewl" so w/e
@R.MartinhoFernandes I said Lua, Python or JS. I am not suggesting any in particular.
Also there's Boo, no?
 
1) I'm not going to roll my own, 'cause you guys told me not to and gave good reasons. 2) I'm not going to be parsing and bytecoding / running the language I choose myself, because you guys told me not too. 3) I'm not going to be using C++ or C#, and I'll be finding a scripting language I can plug into existing C++ code.
 
not really.
 
I'm not sure where people get the idea that I'm never listening when I ask for advice, because I'm always listening. All the time.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Boo is not embeddable without a CLR.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ah, that's sad.
 
4:49 PM
Well, a CLR or a JVM.
 
user142019
You can embed Perl. :P
 
@ThePhD LuaJIT and JS w/ v8 are your best bets. Python could also work.
 
user142019
Emacs Lisp
 
@TonyTheLion Meeting this week is on my subway line, so I'm not playing.
 
V8 is faster, but bigger and takes more RAM
 
Xeo
4:50 PM
@DeadMG What about LLVM as a JIT?
 
@Xeo For what?
 
Xeo
JS
 
@Xeo And then he writes all the rest of the infrastructure?
 
Xeo
4:51 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'm sure there's a JS front-end for LLVM
 
@DeadMG he reports that it works on 2012 (v110), and hangs on 2010 (v100)
@Xeo but why would you want that? JS is best as LLVM output not input :P (emscripten)
 
What does Scala look like...
 
@ThePhD JVM
 
Xeo
@BartekBanachewicz lol
 
No, it doesn't look like a JVM.
 
4:52 PM
it's a nice language on JVM
 
> This example shows the well-known "Hello World!" example implemented in Scala. You define it through the keyword object which introduces a Singleton object
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Oh?
 
@Xeo Could do that too. I didn't know you could get that, but there's no reason why not.
 
> ... which introduces a Singleton object
> Singleton object
 
@ThePhD that's not the singleton you think about.
 
4:52 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I'm not gonna remote debug his crap.
 
Nope, no scala.
 
@LucDanton What's the surprise about?
 
Scala is not a scripting language anyway
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Was this about Boo still?
 
@LucDanton Yes.
 
4:53 PM
@DeadMG Well just saying. It's kinda interesting
I am going home.
I can play catan late evening
 
The Wikipedia page doesn't cover that.
 
ok
 
Someone wrote a pipeline that produces Java bytecodes instead of .NET IL.
 
I'll be here... waiting... for you...
 
@LucDanton AFAIK it's not on any official release yet.
 
4:54 PM
OH
 
> JVM support coming soon
 
@DeadMG Can I script with Wide? <3
 
I see. That does tickle my fancy...
 
Though 0.9.5 is taking goddamn forever.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes ok. Have fun
 
Xeo
4:55 PM
> Just to make that clear: I'm strongly in favour for array_ref (and for dynarray)
:( on the dynarray part
 
lol
To be honest, I really don't cdr.
 
@ThePhD Probably.
I don't natively support it but there's no reason why you couldn't alter the compiler to perform such a task without too much effort.
 
Xeo
@DeadMG Just stop compilation at the IR stage and JIT it!
 
@DeadMG Won't the compiler need to embed Wide anyway?
 
@Xeo Pretty much this.
 
4:57 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes cdr???
 
@TonyTheLion See message history, and then en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CAR_and_CDR
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Er, somewhat.
 
user142019
@Xeo @DeadMG would that work well with clang and C++ code?
 
Xeo
Exhibit A: Cling
I think that's exactly what they do.
 
that would be fine, as long as you didn't use any code that required linking any libraries (for example, the C++ stdlib).
 
user142019
4:59 PM
OIC
 
and that probably includes needing to link the ABI libraries for exception handling support and that kind of thing.
 
Maybe I will write my own scripting language, modeling it off best practices and things I like...
 
@Xeo It is becoming too obvious that the C++ community and committee in general are not interested in moving the language in the same directions I am, so fuck them :|
 

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