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user142019
9:00 PM
I like C++' object model.
 
What about it do you like?
 
user142019
@FredOverflow I like scope for mutex locking and similar stuff. In those cases, I find using RAII classes like lock_guard that require variables with names to be a big fugly hack.
 
user142019
@FredOverflow Value types by default, RAII.
 
user142019
I don't want inheritance in Ø, though.
 
@rightfold Will you marry me? ;)
I hate inheritance.
 
user142019
9:03 PM
No.
 
user142019
Say I want RAII.
 
> I'm sorely tempted to say that real men don't use IDEs.
 
user142019
How would passing around and espec. returning objects work?
 
Well, copy semantics, move semantics, references etc.
 
user142019
I could do C++-like move and copy ctors and assignment operators.
 
user142019
9:06 PM
I don't like references.
 
Why not?
 
user142019
At least, not like in C++.
 
user142019
Where you have pointers, lvalue references and rvalue references.
 
user142019
You basically have three kinds of references.
 
user142019
It's like Ruby which has three different kinds of closures.
 
user142019
9:08 PM
In Go you pass around giant objects using pointers.
 
user142019
In Ø I think I'll use pointers too; I like to be explicit when passing those things around.
 
user142019
E.g. foo(&bar) instead of foo(bar).
 
user142019
The problem is with copying/moving behavior.
 
user142019
When do you copy, when do you move.
 
user142019
Returning by-value can obviously always move, that's no problem.
 
9:12 PM
Only when you return a non-static local.
 
user142019
Right. :P
 
user142019
I do have an idea for copy/move behavior.
 
What is it?
 
user142019
fun foo(T x) unit { … }

x := T();
foo(<- x); // moves
foo(x); // copies
 
user142019
LOL
 
9:14 PM
Why not?
 
user142019
Well I do kinda like it.
 
user142019
But <- looks funny.
 
Just use a different symbol then.
 
user142019
Go uses <- to pull from a channel.
 
user142019
Which raises the next question: concurrency.
 
9:14 PM
You are raising too many questions at once.
Cross that bridge when you get there.
 
user142019
I need to get those basic things right in the beginning otherwise they'll be bolted on top of the language and it'd be bad.
 
By the way, I have a name that I'm reasonably happy with: confx (read: configs).
@rightfold You can always change your language completely as long as the number of users is 1.
 
user142019
@FredOverflow :P
 
user142019
@FredOverflow Is it a language to write configuration files?
 
@rightfold It will be general enough so you can also write configuration files, yes :)
 
user142019
9:17 PM
I want lightweight threads.
 
user142019
@FredOverflow Will the build system use XML configuration files?
 
user142019
@FredOverflow can't disagree less.
 
How do you like the logo? :)
Note how the f x part looks like Haskell-style function application :)
 
user142019
Did you make it in Word?
 
LibreOffice Writer :D
 
user142019
9:24 PM
:P
 
I tried it with GIMP first, but my handwriting (mousewriting?) really sucks.
 
user142019
lool
 
user142019
I need a logo for Ø.
 
Just use the symbol.
 
user142019
I like Clojure's logo.
 
user142019
9:25 PM
 
user142019
 
@FredOverflow nice, is the font open/free?
 
looks like a stop sign
 
user142019
@FredOverflow Looks nice.
 
9:34 PM
no parking?
 
gentium book or something
 
user142019
@FredOverflow lol
 
user142019
Maybe I shouldn't name it Ø.
 
user142019
It's silly and ungooglable.
 
user142019
And untypable.
 
user142019
9:35 PM
I should call it xfnoc (read zefnok). :D
 
sure why not :)
 
user142019
FapScript
 
MovieScript
 
user142019
ScriptScript
 
Maybe name it 'runk', fap in Swedish
 
user142019
9:39 PM
 
9:52 PM
@rightfold It doesn't really qualify as a logo, tough. It's just text.
 
user142019
Why not?
 
user142019
Microsoft's old logo was also just text.
 
user142019
Google's logo is just text.
 
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