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6:00 PM
If y'all haven't seen this one already, it deserves some consideration.
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Q: Special handling for FAQ questions

Lightness Races in OrbitThis came out of a discussion in the C++ lounge today with @casperOne regarding the long-term viability of keeping the c++-faq meta-tag around. Please help me to flesh it out. The problems: Meta-tags are bad The C++ community, possibly uniquely, utilizes this tag for a multitude of reasons: T...

 
Anonymous
@Chris I understand. You are just taking it very seriously perhaps, you are missing the point of it.
 
@PHPNooB no, that code simply does nothing, and you are not aware of it because you currently don't understand it
 
Unless the point is to make an ironic joke, then there isn't a point. Needs moar jQuery.
 
Haha :P

So any ideas? :P
Or should I really press on for it to be changed to UNIX?
 
Anonymous
@Ocramius It does, it currently increments the row in my table, by 1 everytime a user visits the page. So, if I visit my site 10 times, the db gets increments 10 times. It works perfectly.
 
6:03 PM
@Baumr Do you already have PHP code developed and ready to use? If so, then yes, insist on an adequate host. Someone messed up somewhere if you've invested development time into a PHP solution for a client that cannot use it. If you haven't developed anything yet, then what is the problem? ASP.net is the solution that your client can use, stop looking at or thinking about PHP.
@PHPNooB The code that you pasted here does not do that. It simply does not.
 
@PHPNooB that happens somewhere else.
not in that method for sure.
 
This dude is trolling. He says he doesn't like tereško.... no wonder.
 
@Chris Already have developed stuff -- most of it at least
 
Anonymous
That is just the class for assigning value to 1, I have another class that gets row numbers, and another one that compares, then finally another one to update the row.
 
@Baumr Another alternative, BTW, would be a unixy VPS that uses Apache's mod_proxy to pass through the Windows-specific stuff to the other server... it'd be insane, but it'd work.
 
Anonymous
6:05 PM
@Ocramius Yea, I have another class.
 
@PHPNooB so what does counter#PageVisits do?
 
Haha :D

Would it work with WordPress? Sounds like there could be a bunch of serious bugs (WP isn't central to the development, but something I'd be integrating in)
 
So where did the breakdown occur? Clearly, if you've spent time creating a PHP solution, you must have thought this would be useful to the client...? If they can't host PHP, then PHP is useless. The time to talk about hosting has long past if you already have code written. Now you're in fire extinguisher mode... either get PHP hosting, or port your code to ASP.net.
 
@Chris I developed on my own testing server :P previously Googled about client's host and nowhere on their side does it mention it's Windows, in fact, says UNIX
Must be a legacy package that client has
 
Anonymous
It just outputs a value of 1 everytime the class is instantiated. Now, the other class gets the value, and gets the row number from PageVisit row in my table, and just does UPDATE by 1.
 
6:07 PM
hi, I'm looking for an ide that can autoalign brackets/code not just indent/outdent code, suggestions?
 
@Baumr Shouldn't even be a problem. If you've never done it before, though, it will be difficult and annoying to configure and I would not recommend it in that case...
 
@Baumr But now, it is what it is. If they can't host PHP and all you are bringing to the table is PHP, clearly something must change. Either the project, or the hosting. IDK what the nature of the project is, or the size of the client, but usually in that sort of transaction it is the modification/addition that must conform to what already exists. Meaning your new PHP stuff must meet the existing hosting.
 
Anonymous
@grasshopper netbeans ?
 
Anonymous
7.2.1
 
ok thanx
 
6:08 PM
Yeah, no :P

But +1 brownie points for thinking outside the box :)
 
Anonymous
 
pce
@grasshopper In VIM: gg=G
works like a charm
no java required, gVim Bundle: vim.spf13.com
 
I think I'd rather stab myself in the eye with a pencil than install Netbeans.
 
Anonymous
6:11 PM
@Chris I can lend you my pencil
 
@PHPNooB Cool story, bro.
 
@ircmaxell So fast, thumbnail didn't generate yet.
 
Hmmm, yes, a pickle -- I will see what can be done

WP cannot run without PHP

Any good blog platforms that run on Windows stuff?
 
@webarto lol
 
6:14 PM
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Q: Best .NET blog engine

James Newton-KingI am thinking about switching my blog away from Community Server to something that is simpler and focuses more on just being a good blog. What are the different .NET blogging engines and which one do you recommend?

@Baumr I really wouldn't know, there's some suggestions :)
 
@ircmaxell much better
 
:-D
 
Thanks Chris! :)

And thanks everyone else :D
I guess it'll be a learning experience if they can't move to UNIX
So blog should be fine
But what about stuff like this in the html5boilerplate's htaccess file?

https://github.com/h5bp/html5-boilerplate/blob/master/.htaccess
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
@ircmaxell Thanks for making that! I was slammed in another forum for using global scope to get conn resource, and was told to learn about dependancy injection
 
6:19 PM
@PHPNooB I think that happened here as well :)
 
@Baumr You'd have to port that to Url Rewrite for IIS (Windows web server): iis.net/downloads/microsoft/url-rewrite
 
@ircmaxell that episode is absurd. its making things up
@ircmaxell no one got vegan friends
 
@Gordon lol\
 
Anonymous
This room is like a smith for me, I get hammered on daily basis. @Pheagey
 
Like a drunk at the bar; getting hammered everyday...
 
6:24 PM
god I love git
 
Anonymous
@Pheagey 99% of the savvy devs are sadistic. IMO for a reason I can not yet understand. I actually love to teach anyone that needs my help, but here the world must be upside down.
 
@TheWebs srsly, GiT is made of win.
@PHPNooB you noticed that as well..
 
Anonymous
It is like the moon falling on your face, if you can't notice that... you CANT notice anything. @Pheagey
 
@Chris Oh nice.. is that all? Just throw it in that tool and done?
 
@PHPNooB: we like to help people who try to help themselves. Beware of vampires
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6:28 PM
@Pheagey truth. hey does any one know if linus released his "custom" editor? I read about it a while ago and he said it might be his next project since git and the kernel took off.
 
@PeeHaa notepad...
:)
 
Anonymous
@ircmaxell Nahh, I am sure it is a lot more than that.
 
Noooo. That module adds the equivalent functionality to IIS. The module I linked adds the functionality to direct request in an htaccess-like way. Left up to you is to understand the .htaccess file and the Url Rewite module for IIS enough to make an equivalent.

Man... look at it this way -- you were shopping at the wrong store this whole time. You aren't going to (easily) be able to take any work you've done with PHP and just plop it into IIS with ASP. You've got a bunch of Ford parts, and you found out your client is driving a Chevy. Now what? You can try to weld some Ford stuff on the ca
 
6:36 PM
God I hate chrome in ubuntu, it crashes, it takes the whole vm with it
 
@TheWebs wut?
That doesn't sound right
 
@PeeHaa guess you failed to read, let me say it again: if a tab in chrome crashes in a ubuntu 12.10 installation in a vm - the vm will crash with it >.>
 
@TheWebs Why are you always saying I fail to read something? Do you always communicate like that?
Does that work IRL?
 
How about casual blasphemy when you enter a roomful of strangers? Does that work IRL?
 
pce
@Gordon but i had a vegan meal right now! zucchini-pasta with soy bolognese (yum) a recipe from attilahildmann.com
 
6:40 PM
@pce i am surprised you still got the strength to press down the keys
 
@chris - most deff
 
Ah, dammit :P

Haha, nice analogy :D
 
pce
@Gordon why? i ate a frankfurter rindswurst yesterday ;)
 
@Chris Blasphemy will always be in my "good book"
 
@pce that explains it ;)
 
6:42 PM
Although my good book might be my screwed up mind's reflection ;)
 
Eh, just thought that was a bizarre and troll-ish way to announce one's presence in the room, especially in the context of his later derogatory attitude toward your literacy.
 
@chris - its who I am.
 
@Chris when you are among developers , yes , it works just fine
 
@Chris :)
 
if people really were offended I would have been banned
 
6:44 PM
especially as conversation started if you hand out near from religion-related establishment
 
@tereško specially for you: stackoverflow.com/questions/14987558/…
:D
 
@Chris lol
Do we have an "enable error reporting dummy" dupe somewhere?
lol
The string "can't seem to loop through" is not a built-in error message in PHP. — Jack Maney 14 secs ago
 
What to do with this, close or answer? stackoverflow.com/questions/14987747/…
To me it makes no sense as a question.
 
no comment
 
6:59 PM
peachpit.com/articles/article.aspx?p=2021809 <-- at least the first tip is good
 
:)
Wow that first sentence actually is spot on. I better stop reading now :P
 
OK yeah something's wrong with this guy: stackoverflow.com/questions/14987747/…
 
@WesleyMurch Close it.
 
@WesleyMurch wow, Kolink answered it.
color me shocked.
(close it, btw)
 
@WesleyMurch lol. It has issues for sure :P
 
7:01 PM
It seems like he'll answer anything (Kolink).
 
Yo @dawg
 
he will
@PeeHaa Sup @dawg
 
About to answer a jquery question to get my repcap, but I don't want to get a jquery badge or @tereško will never stop laughing
 
hehehe
 
lol
 
7:03 PM
I payed big money for Lasik surgery so I dont have to wear glasses and now Google does this: google.com/glass/start/what-it-does *shakefist*
 
@Gordon I wear glasses, and I can't use it... :-(
 
@ircmaxell i am sure they'll figure out how to do that with dioptre
@Lusitanian then tweet "#ifihadglass I'd revolutionize POV pr0n"
 
@Gordon I'm sure they will, just not yet
@Gordon DUDE!!!
 
7:11 PM
@Gordon LOL
 
@ircmaxell seriously. I mean what else could they mean with "Record what you see. Hands-free.". There is no other UseCase
 
LOL
 
I'd tweet it myself but my twitter account is inappropriate for that. you know. trying to maintain a professional image :)
 
yup
 
7:19 PM
oh, this is sooo tempting. I already have a name for the series. I'd call it IfIhadAss
 
I wonder what SO would be like if it didn't have all the quality issues, and I didn't feel the need to spend all day moderating it and telling people to RTFM. I don't have any programming questions. I sometimes wonder why am I here?
CLOSE EVERYTHING!!
Probably I need a vacation from this place but I'm addicted somehow. Anyways, have a good day/evening errbody, I'm outta here.
 
Later @WesleyMurch. Get well soon ;)
 
@Gordon LOL
 
Everytime somebody use mysqli's horrid API $stmt->bind_param("ssss", 'god', 'kills', 'a', 'kitten');
 
@Gordon twitter.com/ifihadass it's free
@PeeHaa fix it with a wrapper
 
7:24 PM
@ircmaxell soo tempting. but no. thanks :)
 
WRAP ALL THE THINGS!
 
Hello Everyone
 
@PeeHaa Hi PeeHaa
 
7:44 PM
Non-porn use-case: internet medical diagnosis of visible maladies. That would be an awesome helpdesk job: "Is this a hemorrhoid?"
Def. want hands-free for that one.
 
@Chris ewww
 
We were talking porn and you came up with this? What is wrong with you?? ;)
Talking about pr0n
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Q: A website have spammed - hacked our sites

user2092772Again our log shows: Convergys Corporation (167.1.173.21) Philippines Date Time Type WebPage 20th February 2013 17:13:42 Page View www.proxydisk5.appspot.com/ www.proxydisk5.appspot.com/u?purl=bXRoLm9nbi1zbm9pdGF6aW5hZ3JPL2hwLnNub2l0YXppbmFncm8vLzpwdHRo%0A 20th February 2013 17:14:05 Page View...

 
That's the site he's talking about. El. Oh. El.
 
@PeeHaa my favorite question is still that one where the guy asked "what program can i write to get my girlfriend back?"
 
I kind of want to hack it.
 
@Lusitanian Best thing was: he was a JAVA guy. No wonder she left.
@Chris I'm blind now thanks
 
@PeeHaa makes sense --- he was probably quite bloated ;)
 
:-D
 
@PeeHaa That site... it is so majestic and tragic at the same time. They have over 8000 links. That's 1000 away from... something great. I'm speechless but full of words.
 
Hola, Hi, Hiya, hey oh!
 
@JuanFernandoz Hiya
 
@Chris the entire site is filled with anti-islam stuff, and instead advocates an alternate religion
not to mention that it looks like it was created in frontpage 1.0
 
@Chris I think I'm going to save that link somewhere. Whenever I'm having a bad day I can look at it
 
Anonymous
 
Anonymous
hmm..
 
7:58 PM
The mid-page select-based navigation is groundbreaking.
 
@Chris it's truly inspirational for my future projects
 
I want 125 points of reputation so I can vote negative that absurd questions u.u and I have 115 u.u
 
is back
 
hey everyone
 
8:14 PM
@KevinMurphy hola
 
Hey everyone :D
 
@Alexander Hola.
 
@Alexander hey
 
@PeeHaa, 'sup ;)
@JuanFernandoz, hola :D
 
8:16 PM
@Alexander Nothing much just talking pron, websites from 1850 and generic medical advice. You know the usual :)
 
"the usual," LOL
 
aliens ha ha what is pron?
oh...
ha ha
 
meep meep.
 
got a minute guys; cant figure this out:
http://pastebin.com/LtGenJnW
How do I access the sub-objects? Something like $task->sub_task_id->0 .
 
@KevinMurphy curious .. we say bip bip in spanish lol
 
8:19 PM
hmm ... 200 more points till 20k
 
@JuanFernandoz lol i just like saying random noises. saying random noises? does that make sense?
hmm..
windows 8 makes me want to cry sometimes.
 
@tereško Lucky, I think I will never make it to 10k, no upvotes at all in
 
@KevinMurphy windows 8 is mega crap
 
if your main expertize is in , then you really should invest some time in learning
 
Ugh Im gonna hate writing tutorials >.>
 
8:22 PM
Who said I don't do it? :)
 
I dont know how people manage to wite tutorials >.> its so tedious
 
@PeeHaa i get kicked off my school net every 5 minutes.
 
@KevinMurphy It just kept crashing for me
 
Anonymous
is node.js easy to learn
 
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8:25 PM
it should have a page that have some kind of polls or whatever so the people say what kind of tutorials are requiested.
 
Anonymous
anyone who cares...
 
That's an interesting question to ask in the chatroom
 
@PHPNooB looks complicated
 
i was surprised that the upgrade was so easy
 
@PHPNooB has nothing to do with php though
 
8:25 PM
There's no "-1 not enough jQuery" chatroom :D
 
@PHPNooB You should learn it, so after that you can appreciate PHP more :)
[And also know the rare situations where you should be using node.js and not PHP]
 
you should learn it, then you could leave the php chat room
 
I think nodejs is over kill
 
Anonymous
Yea, I kept hearing about node, node, node... and just wanted to know more of it. Specially, since I am trying to create a chat script, I heard it is useful...
 
@tereško truth
 
8:27 PM
@PHPNooB nodejs is just a fancy tool
 
@PHPNooB LMAO
script
it makes me laugh
 
actually , if we are being serious, nodejs has very limited usecases
 
what about meteor?
 
what would you use it for then?
 
most of ordinary developers never even need what nodejs can provide
 
8:28 PM
I find I can do everything I need in php.I personally hate javascriptbut thats just me
 
i can't do everything in php. i suck.
:D
 
Anonymous
Ok, So... how about long polling.. does anyone know a very simple tutorial about that?
 
I can't do everything in php for example I simple thing like jqgrid I cant do it in php
 
i cannot do everything in php .. therefore i have studied javascript, c++ and currently looking into erlang and python
 
I mean; user friendly
 
8:30 PM
have YOU actually learned javascript , @TheWebs ?
as in "picked up a book about it and read it"
 
Anonymous
I hate java-script. It is useless. (imo)
 
Anonymous
Anyone has any good tutorial on long polling, @tag me. :)
 
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@tereško I dont pick up books and read them, I find a project that includes that language and then build the project and learn along the way. Thats how I learned rails and PHP and yes I have spent some time learning JavaScript. I am not use to the anti class structure. I am trying to learn the OO concepts of javascript. The only thing about js I like is jquery and some times......coffee.....script......ya I went there
 
then stop bithing about javascript
 
Anonymous
8:34 PM
@TheWebs is OOP in Javascript same as OOP in php?
 
@PHPNooB no.....
well sorta
Im not sure to be honest I just started learning it
any ways enough about js
 
Anonymous
But, the concept... class, method, pro, instace... ?
 
what is the most similar thing like the php manual in javascript?
 
@PHPNooB Put this into google and shut up about js object oriented javascript
I cant determine if I need these two functions or not
a what?
 
Anonymous
8:38 PM
Google it and shut up ^
 
hahahahahaha -nice one.
douche
 
Anonymous
I wasn't joking.
 
neither was I.
 
weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
 
and the webs goes in the ignore list ... it was getting too annoying
 
8:42 PM
@tereško great
 
Anonymous
Keep me on the out of dat list . I'll be quite @tereško
 
@PHPNooB what language is that?
 
Wow here I am writing up a question and I solved my own problem >.>
 
Every time a take a glimpse at chat, @tereško pushes someone to tiny avatar array :P
 
Anonymous
cryptic reminds of a scene with King Edward
 
Anonymous
8:47 PM
Throwing the guy who kept hecklin the conv.
 
Why are you offending/judging people by looks?
 
Finally I have found a question I could answer which wasn't jquery :P Now I'm gonna make myself useful
 
Do it.
 
@webarto was that aimed at me ?
 
8:50 PM
No, at that dude who called the other dude a pickle puffer.
 
@tereško No, to our indoctrinated friend.
 
It would take me several moments to decide whether that is offensive.
Pickles ARE delicious.
 
oh .. i thought you were questioning why i keep adding to the tiny-avatar-polulation
17 mins ago, by TheWebs
@tereško I dont pick up books and read them, I find a project that includes that language and then build the project and learn along the way. Thats how I learned rails and PHP and yes I have spent some time learning JavaScript. I am not use to the anti class structure. I am trying to learn the OO concepts of javascript. The only thing about js I like is jquery and some times......coffee.....script......ya I went there
... it's because of nuggets like this
 
yup
 
@ircmaxell You see, that @tereško and I aren't so bad at all.
 
8:51 PM
Client has web hosting and email hosting (integrated with their systems at their office) from one web provider.

Both are on a Windows server, but without PHP/htaccess -- thats a problem.

Client has agreed to move over the web site to either a UNIX server with the same web host, or I can also suggest another (cheaper/better) one.

Will it be possible to easily have email hosted (under the same domain, @example.com) with one web-space provider with a Windows server; and then have the website (example.com) hosted fully on a separate UNIX server?
 
no comment
 
i have been called "evil" , but never "bad"
 
Yup, evil, and we'll burn in hell.
 
which one
 
8:53 PM
You were good, you can pick one.
 
Why is @YourCommonSense lurking in here for the last couple of days?
 
also , the original chistian "hell" was supposed to be a cold & dark
 
@tereško That does make more sense
 
@Baumr Yes, it's called modifying A records in DNS, I host mail etc at one server, and website itself on other server. Google DNS Zone
 
@webarto So it shouldn't be any different than hosting a site with DreamHost, and email with Google Apps?
 
8:55 PM
@Baumr I'd suggest you avoid shared hosting, you can get decent VPS for the same price. And you can't do jack with shared hosting (no root access etc).
 
@tereško you're a bad person... :-P
 
@webarto Yeah, root access would be nice -- but with this client, haven't needed it
 
@Baumr Ok, he doesn't need it, you do.
 
@ircmaxell tnx
 
:-X
 
8:57 PM
@webarto Right, I meant I haven't needed it — static website with minimal PHP, and WP in one dir
 
See how A records point to different IP.
 
@webarto Ah yeah?
It's a similar setup when using Google Apps :)
 
Yeah, you need to do that, in short.
 
As I understand?
 
Possibly, probably.
 
8:58 PM
@ircmaxell Surprise! Rails is an over-hyped, fanboi-driven trainwreck. Needs moar jQuery, or Drupal.
 
should exception handler classes e extended to give them "decoration"?
 
So it shouldn't be a problem to get a different host as long as the domain's A is left to what it is, and the website brought over to the new host?
 
@Baumr Yep. Extremely common setup.
 
@Chris But majority of PHP frameworks tried to be Rails, which is sort of sad.
 

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