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5:00 PM
@NolwennLeGuen Not much, as it seems. :D
 
@ThePhD this is what I implied indeed, thank you
 
Captain Obvious, at your service.
 
Wait, but the code after if(fuck) never gets to run!
 
@ThePhD Here, have this rock.
@JerryCoffin Btw. I don't actually care about where people put their braces. I just enjoy flawed arguments and fake religion wars. Just in case you took me seriously. Which you never should.
 
I don't think anyone did
 
5:03 PM
You could probably start Holy Wars about which side of the bed you sleep on.
 
I've a single bed.
 
or what orientation you leave your toilet paper roll
 
@ThePhD ho well if the cat says so, it must be true
 
@NolwennLeGuen I didn't take any of it seriously.
 
I've a modern japanese toilet.
 
5:03 PM
@thecoshman Hey hey, in all honesty everyone else said ti was dead too. :c
 
no need for paper.
 
@JerryCoffin Are you saying I have no credibility.
 
@ThePhD Why would anybody argue about that? Is it even possible to sleep on the bottom side of the bed?
 
user142019
Toilet paper is pointless. Either your shit is so good wiping your ass isn't even necessary anymore, and if that's not the case you're just smearing it.
 
5:05 PM
ITT: People who don't wipe
 
user142019
lol
 
Actually,
 
@NolwennLeGuen I was treating it as a joke before you got involved.
 
@ThePhD they had just stopped working on it
 
I've had a plethora of shits that were so smooth and clean,
 
5:05 PM
@JerryCoffin I am offended.
 
that there was nothing to wipe.
 
user142019
@NolwennLeGuen lol noob is offended on the Internet.
 
The first time it happened I was genuinely fucking surprised.
 
@Zoidberg At least I wipe.
 
I double-checked to make sure, but no. Perfect shits do exist!
 
user142019
5:06 PM
@ThePhD That's Godlike. Cherish those days.
 
user142019
@NolwennLeGuen I do that too.
 
@NolwennLeGuen Ah, I've succeeded!
 
@JerryCoffin Or not.
Silly merkins believe everything I say!
The earth is actually round!
 
user142019
No.
 
user142019
The Earth is not round.
 
user142019
5:07 PM
It's Earth-shaped.
 
@NolwennLeGuen Oh, but I've succeeded regardless. I'm happy and smiling.
 
@Zoidberg Nuh, it's God shaped, which looks mostly like our beautiful country 'Merica.
 
@Zoidberg this man knows his shapes
 
'Cause God Bless 'Merica.
 
@JerryCoffin I'm glad I could make someone happy :)
 
5:08 PM
@thecoshman How I get into Kyrostat?
 
@NolwennLeGuen I was happy long before you were even born though.
 
lol
 
@ThePhD ergh... honestly, right now... to lazy to add you... but I can do at some stage later tonight maybe
 
@thecoshman CMooon
Pleeeaase
dotidotidotidotidoit
 
finish your shitty game first
 
5:13 PM
Maybe the Earth is not round and we are being tricked by physicians and the NASA.
 
user142019
FCUK
 
@ThePhD got a bitbucket account?
 
user142019
Stupid state diagrams.
 
user142019
They're terrible and pointless.
 
@thecoshman ThePhD (The Phantom Derpstorm)
 
Xeo
5:14 PM
@Mysticial: Y'know, when you don't have internet access at home, you get surprisingly much done - like finally watching some anime that have been collecting virtual dust on my external HDD. :)
 
@ThePhD fine... let me just find some one to remove...
 
o_O You have to -remove- somebody?
What is this, the Spanish Inquisition?
 
you can only have 5 people
up to 8 if you referred people.
For free anyway
 
... Or more if you just do some faking and inviting of dummy accounts.
 
Cheating the system huh?
 
5:15 PM
:D
 
You sick fuck.
 
Who owns Kyrostat? I can boost the acount count for the free stuff at least.
 
@ThePhD still working of a free team size, so limitted to five
@ThePhD READ THE FUCKING WIKI FIRST
 
Yessir.
We fork?
Instead of just committing to the same repo?
 
yes, but make sure Clounge owns the repo you fork, not your self
so rather then /thephd/kyrostat you have /clounge/thephd-kyrostat
or what ever you want to call the shit
 
5:19 PM
Makes sense.
 
where do your interest lie any way?
and join the forum
 
user142019
@thecoshman big boobs.
 
right now we are I am doing what seems to be your favourite thing, reinventing the wheel
 
I'm extremely good at the low-level API handling and creating usable structures on top of that that abstract the system in a sensible way that preserves the original power of the system(s) being abstracted without losing any of the power or performance, usually near one-to-one transformations and convenience functions.
I am also extremely good at 3D Math, thanks to being kicked around by Matrix math and having to build a fast, lightweight system for 2D quad-ding built on a 3D backend.
 
he's good at useless loop unrolling too
:)
 
5:23 PM
That too. :D
 
lol 3D math
 
Dude,
dat 3D math.
But I doubt we'd need it here, because... GLM?
 
user142019
This class is making me fucking nervous.
 
user142019
It makes me want to puke.
 
Seems to be mostly cpp-based, and not all-header.
Alright, I can jive with that.
 
5:26 PM
@ThePhD erm... yes?
@ThePhD lol, we are a long way from that :P
don't feel like we are locked into any of these libraries
 
user142019
Time to eat.
 
user142019
Bye.
 
So I guess we're still at
Context Creation.
 
@ThePhD IIRC @melak had got window creating done on windows...
roughly
 
OpenGL 3.1
Sounds like a plan.
 
5:31 PM
IIRC I get a run time error saying something or rather is not the size it should be
also seems to not be so sure what version of opengl it has available
 
protobuff, glm...
zlib....
ICU?
I'm gonna have to acquaint myself with all these libraries.
I need an IRC client too, apparently.
 
hang on
away form mind
 
Xeo
Nyanya, see ya guys tomorrow.
 
indentation
will be four spaces
... =[
 
@dysoco the diameter of the earth was first accurately calculated around 252BC. I'm pretty sure that predates NASA
 
5:39 PM
that is what NASA wants you to believe.
 
@ThePhD yeah, so you noticed we have a list of libraries the 'will be used' that was more just brainstorming and getting them into the vendor repo' so they are there if we and when we need them. So basically, if you need to start using one, do so. Until, then don't worry about them. As for IRC that was used early on just for us to save SO chat from getting swamped, we have a forum, use that. We where trying to avoid chatting in here too much. If needs be, we can use IRC.
As for indentation, that war has been thought, four spaces one, ACCEPT IT
 
Huh, same guy also calculated the tilt of the earth, invented latitude and logitude, and may have accurately calculated the distance to the sun, and invented leap day. Created the first map of the world with meridians and parallels. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eratosthenes
 
my work tends to come in burst as I move from twating around on one thing to the next, so don't expect much work
 
Sounds fine to me.
I have my own big project, but that doesn't mean
I won't be OpenGLing the shit out of this thing.
 
@MooingDuck you realise the world is not perfectly spherical... just saying
 
5:42 PM
Also
FIVE SPACE AND I'LL USE REGULAR TABS
AAAAGH THE WAR WILL RAGE OONNN
 
@thecoshman I realize that this guy came up with approximate radius before we invented decimal numbers.
 
to be honest, it's got to the point where I am half tempted to say 'sod making a game, just get a nice windowing library used'
 
No but seriously I'll figure out how to use a specific setting for my Visual Studio when I start compiling Kyrostat...
@thecoshman I can handle it.
 
@thecoshman and though it's not perfectly spherical, it's pretty freakin close, isn't it?
 
If there's one thing I'm good at, it's Window handling.
 
5:43 PM
@ThePhD handle what?
 
I'll work with @melak47 and we can spank ourselves up some nice Windowing and Context Creation and shit.
 
@MooingDuck it's imperfect enough for me to be pedantic about it :D
 
Most people here will be working in Linux?
I mean, I'm gonna be on Windows most of the time, and my Linux distro died in a fiery death recently.
 
@ThePhD what platform you focus on? I was heading up the linux side of platform abstraction along with taking a more leading role on designing the API
 
@thecoshman Windows all over for me. I got nothing else to focus on right now.
 
5:45 PM
@ThePhD most people here... it really is just me and @melak
 
@thecoshman the circumference around the equator is less than 0.17% larger than the circumference through the poles. That's amazingly spherical.
 
Is there any blog or news agreggator about C++ that you usually read?
 
@MooingDuck I've done shits more spherical then that
 
@thecoshman I highly doubt that
 
Let's suppose the Earth is spherical...
 
5:46 PM
@thecoshman Hit me up on the Forums, I'm registered (ThePhD).
 
@ThePhD ergh... you are making me work more then at work
 
Hey, I'm just following the instructions. :3c
 
@ThePhD most of the people on Kirostat are linux, but the puppy is firmly anti-linux.
 
@MooingDuck I'm not really anti-Linux, so much as Linux-deprived at the moment...
If I manage to ressurect my old 18 inch laptop,
 
@ThePhD I was just reporting :P
 
5:49 PM
I can totally make it a dedicated linux-only box.
 
did you guys see the DailyWTF today?
 
I'll probably be trying Ubuntu, because the vast majority of Linux gamers are Ubuntu.
 
/**
   * Please be carefull when modifying this function. This is really advanced code.
   * @return bool
   */
   public static function initResources()
   {
       return true;
   }
 
I have an istream, but a function requires a block of memory. What should I do?
 
Roflmao.
 
5:50 PM
@ThePhD I think I've done it...
 
@BartekBanachewicz read from the istream into a block of memory? There might be a way to read from the istream's buffer directly if performance is absolutely essential, but I wouldn't bother.
 
I have no idea what I am doing when it comes to phpBB
 
@MooingDuck That seems just too obvious to be right.
 
can I get play now @ThePhD ?
 
Lulz
yeah go nuts
I'm in
LET'S BEING THE KYROSTATTIIING
 
5:51 PM
@MooingDuck it is only loading - thus, done once.
 
I have c++ practical exam after a few days. Do you guys know any good book I should refer to and practice?
 
@BartekBanachewicz so yeah, just read into a buffer
2021
Q: The Definitive C++ Book Guide and List

grepsedawkThis question attempts to collect the few pearls among the dozens of bad C++ books that are released every year. Unlike many other programming languages, which are often picked up on the go from tutorials found on the Internet, few are able to quickly pick up C++ without studying a good C++ book...

 
@MooingDuck Is there a way to read everything from the stream at once?
 
Thanks mooing I will check it out
 
@BartekBanachewicz not all streams have an ending, you'll have to be a little clearer about your stream/requirements/etc.
 
5:53 PM
@ThePhD oh, as for platforms, in theory we are supporting windows mac and linux, but as you can see, buildbot is only configured for linux... and mac has not seen any really work done on it
 
@BartekBanachewicz Do you control the function consuming data?
 
@SachinPrasad JavaScript the good parts.
 
@MooingDuck yes, but the stream is meant to be abstract. I mean, I want to separate the resource from the actual data
 
@thecoshman Got it. I don't know how to Buildbot for Windows, so likely it's just going to end up as a Visual Studio project. Albeit, for what we're doing, I don't think MSVC is going to be an option if anyone is employing all that fancy C++0x stuff.
 
I have ILoader interface, which returns a data stream
 
5:54 PM
@BartekBanachewicz I mean, the function should probably take a stream or iterators instead of a block of memory
 
@MooingDuck ah, consuming -.- No, sorry, that's fixed.
It's from SOIL image loading library
 
pizza time!!!
 
@BartekBanachewicz is the stream a file? Do you want to just give it a whole file?
 
@MooingDuck I don't want it to matter from the reader side (if it's clear what I just said)
 
@BartekBanachewicz I'm trying to figure out: how big should the block of memory be?
@BartekBanachewicz no, apperently I have no idea what you're trying to do
 
5:57 PM
@ScottW Deader than a doornail.
 
@MooingDuck Do you think I should supply the second method of loading / size of the stream aside?
Hm, again. A resource class accepts ILoader object. It has a member function GetDataStream.
 
@BartekBanachewicz now I definitely have no idea what you're trying to do. Stop typing, put your thoughts together carefully, and make an SO question.
 
@BartekBanachewicz sorry :(
 
@MooingDuck no problem. I just thought it's something common.
 
5:59 PM
@BartekBanachewicz it may be, but you and I are failing to communicate atm, so we have to try something else.
 

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