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12:00 AM
@VoidWhisperer Depends
 
@peehaa on?
 
I think I have seen a benchmark post. 1 sec
 
if for the sake of looking at the table length, the table length is 123k rows
 
Depends on whether you use buffered queries I think.
 
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Q: PDO::fetchAll vs. PDO::fetch in a loop

Lotus NotesJust a quick question. Is there any performance difference between using PDO::fetchAll() and PDO::fetch() in a loop (for large result sets)? I'm fetching into objects of a user-defined class, if that makes any difference. My initial uneducated assumption was that fetchAll might be faster becau...

Also see the comments underneath it
 
12:04 AM
They are saying that that guy's benchmark was flawed :L
I also think pdoFetchAll may have neglibable use for my purpose, since i need to pull out rows 5 above and 5 below index wise of the chosen row :o
The other issue i see with that benchmark
To use the data, you still have to loop through the array it produces, which would increase the time
Correct?
 
You are fetching 11 rows. You should not care about the time you spend looping through that
 
Not exactly
I have no clue where these 11 rows are. :P
This is going b ack to the same issue I was having before
 
Which has nothing to do with looping...
 
I need to get the row with the player's name and it's result # in the query :L
is that any more doable with pdo, or no?
 
hello all
@VoidWhisperer How are those 11 rows related to each other?
 
12:13 AM
No. It's the same. It doesn't magically do things for you without using SQL
 
hey guys! anyone want to talk chaining now?
 
They are next to each other,
 
Anyway I'm off to bed. Later
 
To put it into more detail: You order it based on the player's kills. You then pick out the row with player x
's name, then get the location it would've been in a query purely ranking it.
and 5 rows above and below it
 
So, it would be related by player kill's (if that is the order of the table).
 
12:14 AM
Wut? You already have an ordered recordset?
Ah. nvm. I was going. laters
 
goodnight PeeHaa
 
you don't have to leave, i'll refrain from the chain q's
 
I'm sure there would be a smart way to do it. Maybe a LIMIT query to return only a few results or something.
@dyelawn Are you talking about method chaining?
 
@paul yes
the other day i understood someone to be saying that you should not chain in a manner which changes the class that began the chain
 
personally I am against it, but phpUnit uses it quite well.
 
12:20 AM
I believe phpmailer does something like that .. $message->setTo(...)->setFrom(...)
All modifying the base class ... instance
 
i just started looking at symfony2 (which appears to have a favorable reputation around these parts), and many of the conventions used in the documentation end up far away from the initial class
so i'm just trying to figure out when and where it might be ok to alter the original class
 
@ShaquinTrifonoff HI, you there?
 
@MirwaisMaarij yep
 
@ShaquinTrifonoff It updated for me now, it looks great! :D
 
i'm guessing it has something to do with the organization and inclusion of "services" for dependency injection. so it is less egregious to use $this->get('PSR-0CompliantInjectedDependency')->integralMethod($this->get('otherDependencyThatAlsoAutoloadsWell')); than it would be to go $this->propertyThatReferencesRandomandProjectSpecificClass->frivolousMethod()->propertyOfReturnedObject;
 
12:26 AM
@Paul My issue is under the fact that i don't have the slightest clue where in the database this row may be, espically in the ordered resultset
 
@MirwaisMaarij Do you want any changes?
 
@ShaquinTrifonoff Umm, not really, why?
 
Just wondering :D
 
@ShaquinTrifonoff No :) How is the chatbox going? :p
 
12:28 AM
Lol
 
@dyelawn That does look like it is going to cause you problems. I think chaining across classes is a bad idea because it breaks the Law of Demeter.
The Law of Demeter (LoD) or Principle of Least Knowledge is a design guideline for developing software, particularly object-oriented programs. In its general form, the LoD is a specific case of loose coupling. The guideline was invented at Northeastern University towards the end of 1987, and can be succinctly summarized in one of the following ways: * Each unit should have only limited knowledge about other units: only units "closely" related to the current unit. * Each unit should only talk to its friends; don't talk to strangers. * Only talk to your immediate friends. The fundamental no...
 
but symfony2 docs even have chaining that separates patterns of logic onto different lines
HOWWEVAR the statement the other day seemed to suggest that any alteration to the initial class is problematic. i just want to know the rules to the game
yeah, i read that a couple times
 
@ShaquinTrifonoff ? Sorry I ask too much XD
 
The chatbox isn't easy or simple to make :P
 
Yay I got an answer for my query question... except for one thing
:|
if it has a massive amount of users with the same # of kills, such as '0'... it will spit out all of them
Anyone know an easy way to prevent that sql wise?
 
12:31 AM
@dyelawn No public properties is a good rule too. It increases the encapsulation.
 
@ShaquinTrifonoff :p okk, by the way are you free right now to add AdSense in the website?
 
@MirwaisMaarij Sure
 
@ShaquinTrifonoff Alright, my teamviewer yeah?
 
@VoidWhisperer LIMIT (not shouting, I just like to write SQL keywords in capitals).
 
12:32 AM
I see
1 sec
 
@Paul public methods (setters / getters) seem to occasionally be tedious.
 
dyelawn: get an editor that makes them for you? :P
 
@dyelawn As soon as you have a public property the scope for changes to an object's state is opened up to the lifetime of the object. It becomes hard to track down where the state was changed. Also, the public methods of a class are testable.
 
12:50 AM
@paul i think you just made it make sense
 
@dyelawn good to hear.
 
posted on December 05, 2012 by David Soria Parra

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can anybody help me with a spot of trouble at the moment?
 
Just tell us your problem. If anybody can and wants to help, they will
 
I'm experimenting with PHP and python on a 000webhost server
(I'm making a novel chat client)
In my original script which was working, was using urllib2 in python to post text to a PHP script on the server (upload.php)
which took the text and appended it to a log ('conversation.txt')
I realized for efficiency, I want the PHP script to return the current content of the log during this interaction (so I don't have to go and do another request)
so, I made the PHP script print the contents after uploading
here's the PHP script (don't bite; it's very short)
<?php
$file = fopen('conversation.txt','a+');
fwrite($file, $_POST['TEXT']);
print fread($file,filesize('conversation.txt'));
fclose($file);
?>
At this point, my problem begins
Though I can read the content of conversation.txt by visiting the server URL in my browser (and passing in an arbitrary argument for 'TEXT') [though doing this does not result in new text being added; I think my browser gives a GET method]
my python script never recieves the outputted text by upload.php, but it definitely does succesfully write to conversation.txt
The relevant python script is...
    data = urllib.urlencode({'TEXT': 'ARBITRARY STRING')
    request = urllib2.Request(self.uploadURL, data)
    response = urllib2.urlopen(request)
    print response.read()
that python script DOES print something; it prints the javascript of the page (that 000webhost chucks in itself) and an empty line before it; it's not acknowledging the printed text that the PHP script may or may not be printing
I feel that since the fwrite in PHP is working, the fread must be as well, meaning there's a problem with my python script :S

Is there an obvious rookie mistake I'm making?
(I am a HUGE PHP rookie)
 
1:05 AM
That is like a small novel of a question right there
:D
 
It was rather specific; I couldn't abstract it :(
To add some more info:
This simple pHP script:

<?php
$file = fopen('conversation.txt','r');
print fread($file,filesize('conversation.txt'));
fclose($file);
?>
is received properly by this python script:

request = urllib2.Request(self.downloadURL)
response = urllib2.urlopen(request)
print response.read()
 
what makes the chat client so novel
 
My particular implementation is rather unusual, though perhaps a better term for the sake of this question would have been 'insignificant' or 'light weight'
 
@AntiEarth In this script (click the arrow to the left to see which one I am talking about). You have the file open for reading and writing. You append text and then try to read. However I would think that the file pointer is probably at the end of the file and the read won't read anything.
 
Aha!
that makes perfect sense!
And explains why it's still visible in my browser; my browser, using GET, doesn't write, and so can read from the start.
How do I go about moving the pointer back?
 
1:18 AM
@AntiEarth fseek no, wait... rewind
 
You are a gentleman and a scholar
Thanks a tonne!
 
I have a question about PECL...
 
no worries
 
Can I install a package via PECL and then use it outside of a PECL PHP installation?
 
 
1 hour later…
2:45 AM
Hi all
 
Are you familiar with OSX by any chance?
 
not much
 
k. I'm trying to install oauth on 10.5 :/
 
 
2 hours later…
5:10 AM
did someone fuck with the chat or is it bugging out for me, all I see is 1 hour later...
or are you people fucking about
 
i hate public function __get( $name )
 
doing this ....remove it form your screen ..
 
Why Flagging the post "1 hour later" ... According to me.. there is nothing to flag.. just owner can remove it.
Please stop flagging it.
 
room was frozen so having fun ...
we were not rude ... or used ill words soo ... its the narrow mildness of flagger
 
If flags will be coming through this much quickly .. around 40 flags on those posts.. then I afraid this room will again get frozen.. so users please use your power to flag accordingly.
@NullPointer yes.. that's what i see,, the post "1 hour later" is not to bad to flag
 
5:22 AM
wat
 
@MKJParekh 40 flag ...???
wat ....
@tereško is that wat is pointed to me or mkjparekh ??
 
to him .. i feel like we had a visitation by genuine Indian support-person
the answer was swift and made completely no sense
 
@Event_Horizon did you flag them all ???
 
wow...
 
@Mysticial so you also saw flag ....
 
5:37 AM
@NullPointer There's 70 of them.
 
@Mysticial who flagged them ??
did you approve ....
@Mysticial
17 mins ago, by NullPointer
we were not rude ... or used ill words soo ... its the narrow mildness of flagger
 
No, I didn't touch them. I'm just laughing my ass off. :D
 
@Mysticial lol..hahah
 
Now it's at 85
I'm gonna screenie this, it's hilarious... :P
I think it's a new record I've seen.
 
@Mysticial omg...who is flagging this ....?
 
5:49 AM
I can't see who flagged them.
 
@Mysticial i think
we should ready for wrath of meta
:(
 
I can only see what is flagged and how many flags on each message.
^^ for the record
 
yey ....we made new record ..... please post image if it reach to 100 ...
but a risky record ...
@Mysticial please post image if it reach to 100 ...
 
6:04 AM
awww...
@Shog9 I bet you were like "WTF?!?!" when you saw the bubble?
 
yes, pretty much
Didn't see you were going for a record, but figured suspending those two for several hours if they were validated would be a bit much.
 
@Shog9 it wasnt for record ....and we were not rude ... or used ill words
 
@NullPointer I know. But if a post gets enough flags, it'll auto-delete and you'll get suspended for a half hour. And it's cumulative. And you were close enough to nearly get kicked for 3+ hours.
 
@Shog9 omg...could you do anything for us ...we wont post again ...:(
 
Go for a... star record next time ;-)
 
6:14 AM
i am in condition of
 
6:28 AM
lol
:)
 
6:59 AM
HI @ALL
Can any one slove mu issue plz...
I am using wordpress i want xml response from srver how can i get xml response
@Mysticial @NullPointer I am using wordpress i want xml response from srver how can i get xml response
 
hi guys. . .
 
/me landed at workplace
 
7:38 AM
Hello everyone I need help
anyone readyto help me ?
 
just ask
 
7:54 AM
I want to implement search functionality . I have taken a text box and and on go button calls a controller which retrieve rows on the basis of hard corded values, Now i want to get values from text box and pass it to controller
 
can someone explain why I should use prepared statements?
Let's say I use the query SELECT * from users where username = '$user'
Then I fetch the associative array and store the rows that will be used into variables
Where is the use in a prepared statement when I now have all the data I ever need?
 
@andho Please tell me how can I do this
 
@ShumailaKhan where is your controller?
@ShumailaKhan how does your go button call it?
@Query for two reasons, security and performance
for most use cases, there is no performance gain
 
@andho And readability, usually.
 
My controller :
public function actionSearchFiles($name = '', $ticker = '' , $date = '2011-12-31')

{


$requested = array(
'name' =>
$name,
'ticker' =>
$ticker,
'fs_date' =>
$date
);

$model = FileContent::model()->find();

$this->renderPartial('searchindex', array(
'model' => $model,
'title' => $requested,
));
}


This is view where go button is calling above controller

<?php echo CHtml::submitButton('Search',array('filecontent/searchfiles','class'=>'btn btn btn-primary btn-medium')); ?>
 
8:01 AM
@andho So prepared statements avoid the needs for real_escape_string and htmlentities?
What If I already have functions that do those?
 
@Query Then you don't need those functions anymore :P
 
@Query it only avoids real_escape_string, htmlentities is not an sql injection concern
@Query your functions or real_escape_string might have bugs which might allow some kind of injection, but the data sent through prepared statement has no chance of executing arbitrary sql
@ShumailaKhan is this zend framework?
 
Ok. Guess I should switch everything to prepared statements... Even if it feels more redundant.
 
You only need a prepared statement for user input
 
8:18 AM
Are there any good ebooks that target OOP web apps with PHP?
like what structure to use and when.
 
@andho No its Yii
 
@ShumailaKhan the parameters for that function are whatever you is in the parsed from the URL right? I'm not familiar with Yii, but looks like it
@ShumailaKhan is go button part of a form?
 
8:35 AM
@andho No its not parsed , this is what I want to do . Its hard coded.
@andho yes it is !
 
@ShumailaKhan What is the value of the method attribute of the form
is the form submitted as POST or GET
 
as POST
 
'morning
 
if it's GET the values will be available in the $_GET variable, if it's POST the values will be available in the $_POST variable. But Yii framework would probably have alternate and augmented ways of retrieving the same data. The $_POST is an associative array with the form's field names as keys, and the form's fields values as values
try to see if there is anything in the $_POST variable
 
9:17 AM
why shogo9 has blue color name ...? i want to show my name red color ...what should i do for this ?
@tereško is this good book..???
 
good enough if you are just now starting to learn about OOP
 
Morning
 
@tereško thankyou ....(-----:-----)
 
What happened here? :P
 
wb , @PeeHaa
 
9:21 AM
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9:41 AM
Morning all
 
@Jimbo morning
 
@PeeHaa morning ....
 
Morning @NullPointer
It's freezing outside :(
 
we done a stupid thing today ....and got a huge attention ...
@Jimbo morning ....
 
10:13 AM
Morning folks :)
 
hi
 
@GoogleGuy Morning
 
morrrning ...@GoogleGuy
 
10:40 AM
can we interrupt a sleep() call in php?
 
@GoogleGuy, the @GoogleGuy?
and morning all :)
 
morning @Niki
 
@NikiC in the flesh :)
 
@GoogleGuy new to stackoverflow?
 
New to register. Not new to the site.
 
10:46 AM
welcome anyways ^^
 
@NikiC morning .....
 
have fun with the little time you have left
 
Good mornin
 
before you realize that all php questions are shitty and stackoverflow is actually very depressing :P
Hey there @NullPointer and @Donut
 
@GoogleGuy may i ask why dont you use old account ??
@NikiC hello.....:)
 
10:47 AM
@NullPointer what old account?
 
@GoogleGuy what do you do @Google?
 
@NikiC morning
 
you said you are not new to website .... and your this account created today so i think its your new account .
 
@NullPointer Hint: You are able to read SO without being registered ;) This is not experts exchange ^^
 
posted on December 05, 2012 by Volker Dusch

A couple of weeks ago Igor wrote a fantastic blog post about “Scaling a Silex code base” which made me remember a story I wanted to share about how I fell in love with Silex. This blog post aims to tell that story. If you never heard of Silex is let me paste the blurp from the silex home page for you: “Silex is a PHP microframework for PHP 5.3. It is built on the shoulders of Sy

 
10:51 AM
gota go... light has gone...:(
 
Are 1-method classes bad?
 
hard to say
 
If methods were objects too.
 
instead of using a single method class it might make more sense to just use a function ^^
 
I know this :)
But well, I'm asking out of curiosity, is that anti-pattern?
 
10:54 AM
Unless that class is a child class that modifies the behavior of a single method in another parent class...
context is everything
 
@GoogleGuy btw, I just skimmed over that objects article
It's nice though I found it a bit superficial
 
@NikiC Yes, it was very superficial indeed. I had drafted it last month and never got around to finishing it. I think I should have spent more time before I published it.
 
I.e. in particular that the part promised in the title "objects under the hood" was only covered quickly and most of the rest was rather user-level PHP
 
You're right. I didn't spend enough time on the internals aspect.
 
@GoogleGuy Be happy that you didn't spend more time :D I have been researching the object system the last month or so and written about ~1700 lines of text and I'm just starting ^^
There is a lot to objects in PHP
 
11:00 AM
Indeed. There is.
 
Just the 26 object handlers...
 
I found it difficult to decide how much internals would be too much in that area.
There was a lot I second guessed.
Most of my readers are n00bs.
 
11:17 AM
@NikiC i recon it's crap under the hood
 
Morning peeps, what the happy haps?
 
@andho Surprisingly, no.
I think objects are one of the cleaner parts in PHP
 
@NikiC I read ur article on the PHP variable internals, how the PHP manages variables is not so efficient right
 
It very cleanly separates object passing, object storage and object operations
 
right, so that article was about the storage
@NikiC the code is clean, but is it the most efficient?
my mouth just waters at seeing how fast node.js is
asynchronity aside
 
11:20 AM
@andho Yes, it's not particularly efficient
@andho Be thankful that PHP doesn't do much async
 
asynchornosity?
 
async is the source of all evil
 
@NikiC atleast for us non-savants
 
or at least async is the source of closures-nested-to-15-levels ^^
 
@NikiC nesting is just a way looking at it, as far as functional programming is concerned
it all still comes down to structure in the end
 
11:23 AM
@andho In JS nesting is pretty much the only way out. The other way is promises, but I don't see anyone using those.
 
there are not many conventions on how to structure ur asynchronous code, but the Promise thing seems cool
i use them, cox for me, i just can't go forward with something that feels wrong
 
user1125394
@NikiC wouldn't be great also to have a sort of eventmachine (like ruby's rubylearning.com/blog/2010/10/01/…)?
 
@NikiC so isn't is possible to make PHP variable more efficient, without regression?
 
@NikiC nested calls yes, nested code no. There's no reason to write code indented off the side of the screen, people just forget that you can assign closures to things instead of passing them.
 
@cyril maybe something will come up in react php
 
11:25 AM
@DaveRandom I don't know. I've seen node.js code and I didn't like it. I think node.js is a really terrible choice for most applications, because it trades performance for hard to maintain code. node.js basically puts the burden of implementing concurrent code on the programmer, rather than handing it itself.
 
most people don't bother about the structure of the code they write, when i'm a helping a friend out, i just can't keep my mouth shut, everything they do is just wrong, and all of them are kind of second nature to me
and mentioning them feels superficial
 
I haven't seen a single production worthy code base in node.js yet
 
user1125394
ruby's eventmachine can probably do what nodejs without the code uglyness
 
@cyril it's hard to get async libraries in ruby
as well in tornado (python)
 
user1125394
yes you need to find & use async libraries
 
11:27 AM
@GoogleGuy code structure wise? or stability?
 
Both
Nothing about node.js is production worthy
It's full of quirks
 
@DaveRandom Generally I think that the whole hipster async-over-threads movement is totally stupid
 
@GoogleGuy i have about two little subsystems built with node in production
but it's really small
 
You must have very low standards for what you put into production.
 
@GoogleGuy true :P
more like no standards at all
but it works fine, it looks great, less than 500 lines of code. So it's good
 
user1125394
11:31 AM
no, but it's maybe worth using inodejs as subsystem, linked to your main framework
 
node.js forces you to spend a lot of time debugging your application due to it's very quirky libraries. I would much rather spend that time writing stable and secure code in C then waste my time writing crap code in JS that's full of unexpected and undefined behavior.
 
@GoogleGuy what i'm saying is, I haven't run into these quirks. Do tell me, so I can be wary of them
 
@GoogleGuy Well that's a bit harsh
 
@andho Sounds like you haven't actually attempted to build any real world applications then. The entire node.js http library is full of bugs. There are plenty of edge cases that completely broke down in production for us that were very difficult to debug, because quite frankly there aren't very many good tools for debugging node.js.
 
I like how you put "C" and "full of unexpected and undefined behavior" in one sentence, but did not apply the latter to the former :D
 
11:34 AM
@NikiC No arguments there. Give me some threading support then!
:-P
 
@NikiC shrug I know full well what behavior is defined in C since it's based on a specification and not an implementation.
 
@GoogleGuy it's an enterprise app, but not a web app. I probably won't do a web app in node js
is async programming harder than parallel programming?
async as in node style
 
user1125394
event Vs thread-based Vs 1-thread(php)
 
is it easier to debug threads, or evented io
@cyril php: single short process
 
user1125394
@andho true php doesn't aim for big concurrent tasks
 
11:38 AM
@cyril what's your threshhold on memory for a single php process
 
I think people abuse threads way too much. Threads are intended to help you achieve parallel I/O, not necessarily parallel computation. If your data can be broken down into chunks and processed out of band, then threading gives you the flexibility to maximize your CPU by not waiting on I/O blocking.
 
@GoogleGuy what about the performance advantage on parallel "processing", I/O aside
 
What performance advantage? The only way you can do parallel processing is if you have multiple CPU cores to utilize. For which you don't even need threads.
 
disclaimer: i have no experience with threading
 
user1125394
@andho not that advanced yet in php, don't even know how to measure it
 
11:41 AM
@GoogleGuy oh, i thought threads equal mutliple cores
 
That's an implementation detail. It's up to your thread scheduler. But again, if you're using threads to do parallel computation you're doing a lot of things wrong.
 
@GoogleGuy I agree with that
 
user1125394
php.net/manual/en/function.memory-get-usage.php lol like always there's a function for it
 
@GoogleGuy say, the canonical example of quick sort, you divide the list, and pass it into two threads
@GoogleGuy are you saying this is not the way to go
 
@GoogleGuy Was mainly referring to the fact that C has quite a lot of UB. And also a lot of unexpected behavior (especially in regards to casts)
 
user1125394
11:43 AM
php_get_me_a_drink();
 
@NikiC Sure, you just don't rely on undefined behavior and you should be fine.
Same with any language.
 
To hide a table until I need it, would you add 'hidden' to the table attributes, or set dislay: none; / alternative suggestion? :)
 
@DaveRandom Well, there is the pthreads extension. It's rather new, but the developer behind it seems to be rather invested in it ;)
At least he is often on #pecl asking stuff
 
@NikiC IDK I think the model of "when this happens do this" fits socket programming very well. When the nature of the program is asynchronous (because what you do relies entirely on interaction with a third party), having a coding style to match makes sense. It often result in mindf*ck code and I accept that, but it doesn't have to. It just takes proper careful planning of exactly what the program will do, something which most people seem to be very bad at. Including myself.
 
@cyril PHP also has other nice functions. Like leak(), which will leak a variable
 
11:45 AM
@Jimbo display none
 
@andho Okay, why's that preferable?
 
@DaveRandom node was made FOR socket programming, no?
 
(I like to understand what I'm coding, I just ask and copy/paste)
I DON'T* just ask and copy/paste
 
@Jimbo it's doesn't take space on the page
 
@DaveRandom When the nature of the program is asynchronous and you really need the performance advantage you get by not blocking, then yes it makes sense. But most applications are not like that
 
11:46 AM
@andho Ah but the alternative would still hold the space for the table?
 
@Jimbo if you want it to display an empty space where the table should be, visibility: hidden is for you
 
@DaveRandom E.g. for most cases I am totally content with the blocking file_get_contents in PHP and would certainly prefer it over some kick-ass async magic which I could use instead.
 
@andho I get it, thanks for the explanation
 
@NikiC always right tool for the right job
 
@NikiC Yeh I've seen that but I have yet to play with it - have you? I realised after I made that comment that it is now an unfair complaint.
 
11:48 AM
I mean, I totally see that node.js has applications. Like building chats. But that's nearly it. ^^
 
@NikiC right yeah hehe, i actually used node because building the said app was impossible with single thread php
I actually tried python first, but in the end, node was easier. Closures in pythons doesn't look like closures
 
@NikiC I just wish it was a little better for defining timeouts. Also blocking calls don't provide for the ability to implement progress indicators, which is not an uncommon requirement.
 
user1125394
@NikiC non blocking could be useful for http libraries, you pass them success, error callbacks
 
@DaveRandom yeah I know, using stream context can be inconvenient
Btw, I just noticed that someone already wrote generator docs: de3.php.net/manual/en/language.generators.overview.php
 
@NikiC I have some experiments that would make you run screaming in terror. I have a dream that one day there will exist a soft-PBX platform that is worth using, and while implementing the whole thing in node is a ridiculous idea, for some modules it could be brilliant. I have a working SIP proxy written in node. It will probably never see the light of day and I'm sure it would horrify you.
 
11:57 AM
@DaveRandom If only I knew what a soft-PBX platform and a SIP proxy was ...
Does this have to do with water coolers? :P
 
user1125394
telephony stuff.. eh @DaveRandom I'd like to see your sip thing even if horrible
 

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