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3:01 PM
@dievardump Hah. That's awesome.
 
anyone use grooveshark on their android ?
@Grooveshark so I registered using my Google login, how do I login with my android device now? It only seems to accept grooveshark login
 
wowwwww
I mean, I agree - but still.
that is the shining definition of Low Brow if you ever needed one
 
Reddit's full of them, isn't it?
 
Who's Amanda Todd's?
 
3:06 PM
@dievardump Girl who killed herself because she was being bullied online
(Also, she drank bleach.)
 
So because it's online it's more tragic?
Like... we should talk about her more than we talk abouit others?
 
Who said that?
 
@dievardump nah, it's just that she posted a video
 
Oh, I highly doubt that's why
 
OMFG my gf was watching that and I was wondering what she was watching
I don't shed a tear for her because then I would be forced to think of the millions of people every day who have to put up with the same shit and ... well... don't kill themselves.
 
Yeah
I read an article saying realistic people are a lot more likely to be depressed, well, because they're realistic
That made me sad :p
Reddit's gone way too circlejerky because of her
 
If the society was not that into "morality", a teenager boobs' photograph wouldn't be killing.
 
My question: Who here *** hasn't*** been victim to bullies.
 
3:13 PM
@FlorianMargaine Oh... I maybe did not understand a part
 
LOL
<--- nerd 4 life, yo
 
@dievardump she was 12 when she showed it over webcam
 
@dievardump wait..... THERE ARE BOOBS ON THE INTERNET?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?
 
Oh. 12?
 
ohhh 12 y/o tiny tities are not for me
 
3:14 PM
shit
 
what is it... 1/2 my age add 7?
 
@FlorianMargaine There is something I did not understand I think
 
20 is my cut off.
 
Suicide is weird. There are lots of reasons to kill yourself, sure, but do they really overweight all the possible futures you've yet to have?
 
@rlemon depends on the age :x
 
3:15 PM
@FlorianMargaine pretty well always works. (over 16, but under 16 it is a do not go over)
 
@Zirak rather, is it still worth living in so much pain?
@rlemon 60 -> 37... :/
 
@FlorianMargaine and when you are 60, you will be complaining about the 37 y/o ass?
 
heh.
my fiancee is 1 year older than me :(
 
my gf is ~3 years older than me
 
Emotions are temporary. They fade. The human mind is so insanely brilliant, that if you don't wallow yourself in your perceived version of the truth, you can go through pain (physical and emotional.)
 
3:17 PM
she is the first woman I have ever dated who is over (dated.... :P)
 
@rlemon Who is over dated?
@Zirak That is pretty much the exact thing I read earlier
 
People phase out and dream while their limbs are torn off, they engulf themselves in different realities. If you go too far, the line between your mind and the world dims too greatly, and that's another problem entirely.
 
People who can lie to themselves well enough, are generally happier
 
@AmaanCheval in surface only though
and
 
Dating is for losers.
 
3:19 PM
WHO THE HELL STARRED MY MESSAGE?!
 
lol
 
I shouldn't have said that.
 
'strue
 
@FlorianMargaine Why?
 
It's not lies as well. It's calm acknowledgement. I'm sure my personal history of suffering is nothing compared to a lot of cases, but since a certain thing I've been sad a lot. But I learned how to even it out.
 
3:20 PM
@FlorianMargaine Instant starring.
 
@AmaanCheval subconcious...
 
Hmm, yeah
 
Hahahaha, that's one of the few types of messages that I'd really not want to be in any history :P
 
But honestly, I think that's enough
 
Can you unstar this message ?
 
3:21 PM
@dievardump I can
 
tbh, I'd delete it if I were you
 
Well, room owner, so yeah
 
I agree with ThiefMaster.
 
Agreed
 
That's my fault
 
3:21 PM
@ThiefMaster can't do it anymore, can you?
 
Yeah, bullying sucks, but ice-cream is better. Your brother's death sucks, but discrete mathematics is beautiful. If you let any part of you dwell too greatly in one aspect, you loose the entire thing. People who are in perpetual happiness aren't really alive as well.
 
done
 
I just cancelled the stars, but the message's still there
ty
 
And if you really can't balance yourself, that doesn't mean you can't learn how. Suicide is just a waste.
Life may be pointless, but it is of value.
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Yeah I don't get those kids who kill/hurt themselves just because they are being bullied.
 
3:23 PM
I use nifty js tricks at work
feels nice to know my colleagues will maybe learn something by reading my code.
 
It was quite bad during my school time and I'd never even thought about such a thing (same for going on a shooting rampage etc)
 
@AmaanCheval s/over/older/
i have had relations with older women than her, she is the first older woman I have dated
 
@ThiefMaster Yeah but... some kids are more "fragiles" than others. And kids can be really bad, mean, destructive.
 
For some, physical pain can be easier to deal with than the emotional pain they're going through
 
s/some/most
 
3:25 PM
Adults can and are greatly more evil than any kid can ever hope of being.
 
@ThiefMaster same. I was labeled "gay" as I entered grade nine. This was very hard thing in my highschool because 1) I was not gay. and 2) I was 13 - stuck with me till past highschool - still to this day a few of the guys I went to school with have this "I must make fun of you for stupid shit" mentalities.
 
Hello people, has anyone tried TypeScript?
 
GTFO
</sarcasm>
 
@DorianGray nope, have you?
 
I've tried and liked it.
 
3:26 PM
Looks descent (much improvement over coffeeScript)
 
@SomeKittens Because physical memory isn't strong in humans. You may not remember what you smelled during your first kiss, but you can remember the experience.
 
should I move the whole conversation to recycle bin?
 
but I still prefer to write my good old javascript
 
@DorianGray example? It looks nice, but haven't got a chance to use it
 
@FlorianMargaine no point - we can just move on and let it get buried
 
3:26 PM
@DorianGray It looks yucky
 
forexample if you are a C# or Java developer like me
 
@FlorianMargaine Maybe move, but not recycle bin, since it's not that trash.
 
you will like new keywords such as class, module
 
I love c# so I am actually going to give it a try - but not for anything useful
just for fucking around
 
3:27 PM
and also private and public, static typing along with dynamic typing
 
You keep ninja'ing me
 
code completion
 
code completion? you mean like a IDE?
code completion is ... well... lets just say i don't like it
 
Has there ever been a language developed alongside an IDE for said language?
 
makes you lazy
 
3:28 PM
basically it is a C# alike abstraction over JS but allows you to use javascript along the way without forcing you to use only TypeScript syntax
 
the thing that I don't like about TypeScript is the fact that it tries to imitate java-like classes (like any "abstraction" out there), when js is prototype based.
 
@SomeKittens anything .net?
 
but eventually the code will be prototyped
 
I like my js POO
 
@DorianGray I like my js prototyped, not classed.
the modules pattern is more than good enough, why do people want more?
 
3:29 PM
hmm. I was about to say that it'd make a better IDE, but if it's .NET, well...
 
@rlemon No one's perfect you know.
 
then you can go ahead and use your protoyped things along with Typescript
:)
 
learn to use Object.create, you'll do everyone good
 
in the same file
 
I should learn JS one of these days.
 
3:29 PM
Why use it at all then?
 
@DorianGray why would I use typescript then? for the types?
like lljs already provides?
 
@DorianGray I think the consensus is: We like it (from face value) more than coffeescript but ultimately learn js and you are set. Proprietary languages that compile down to js are a fad. why not just focus on helping ECMA define better more robust standards for the future
 
I don't know if you don't like classes then don't use it, but there are thousands of people like me who loves C-based syntax
 
@rlemon no, typescript is good in the way that it allows you to have ES6 now
 
and Classes, Modules etc.
 
3:30 PM
@DorianGray syntax != paradigm
JS has modules
 
Typescript is using as much as ECMA6 standards
 
@DorianGray js has no "classes" so anything that compiles down into that offers "clsases" is just creating the same class like objects that we use now and with great success / understanding
 
so ECMA6 offers classes etc.
 
and java-like classes are the only thing typescript provides? a lot of libraries already provides this.
 
so once you learn TS, you won't feel foreign to ECMA6
 
3:31 PM
not finished standards that are not fully defined and still a ways from being implemented
 
and also static typing
 
does TS have weakmaps?
 
compile time errors
 
@DorianGray once they are TypeScript will have to change or it will be doing the same ol' MS proprietary shit it did with js
 
type checking
 
3:31 PM
static typing is good for compiled languages, it's not necessary for interpreted languages (which js is)
 
lambda functions
 
IT IS ALL COMPILED DOWN TO JS
WHY TAKE THE TIME TO LEARN NEW LANGUAGES
LEARN JS
 
lambda functions? are you kidding me?
 
() => any
 
@DorianGray lambda function is anonymous function... which exist in js since forever
 
3:32 PM
TypeScript can't in fact introduce ANYTHING new that other abstraction libs dont already offer. precompiled js is cool - but why make it with new syntax. jshint doesn't
 
it is a personal preference, no one is forcing anyone so if you don't like it, you don't need to use but I was waiting for something like it.
because I like static typing and compile time error checking and I also need to use JS for many occasions
so TypeScript is a nice superset
 
so typescript > coffeescript <<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< vanilla js
 
tool for me and people like me
 
no, people don't like you
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lol harsh
 
3:34 PM
BURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRN
 
.... i like it
 
@DorianGray typescript is a tool for people, who blindly follow the latest hype
 
you're wrong
 
There are so many things I don't follow
 
3:34 PM
Fight fight fight fight fight fight fight!
 
like conventions
 
heh
 
ohhhhh more burns
 
I like the things easier to use and alows rapid development and reduces errors etc.
so I don't follow any language etc. blindly
 
using a language that "compiles" to JS does not reduce errors
 
3:35 PM
CoffeeScript does the exact same thing
 
it only makes the debugging harder
 
@DorianGray so you think static typing reduces errors?
 
but if you say bad things about things that you didn't even try then you are a blind person :)
 
and allows rapid development?
 
CoffeeScript vs TypeScript is just syntax.
 
3:36 PM
You're so right. I'm going to put my balls in the toaster.
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TypeScript is more than just syntax
 
@DorianGray not using is not the same as knowing nothing about
 
@Zirak hahaha nice one
 
I've never tried it, and people always warned me not to do it, but they're just blind.
 
@FlorianMargaine Static typing does help reduce some kinds of errors, but introduces others. No more errors because of machine assumptions, just programmer assumptions.
 
3:37 PM
@SomeKittens seriously, I've never had errors because of type matters
 
@Zirak Perfect
 
when you think about where you did the error, I will be sipping my coffee and watching my app working nice and clean :)
 
@DorianGray I seriously doubt that.
 
don't doubt that :)
 
To me all of these "languages" that compile down to js are just more and more abstract ways for developers to totally ignore and say fuck it to learning js language agnostics
 
3:37 PM
If there was a language that allowed me to use bug-free code, I'd jump to it in an instant.
 
when you think about where the error is in your program with a super cryptic error at line 1 of generated js code, I will be sipping my coffee and watch my app working nice and clean, or with an error telling me exactly what's wrong and where
 
one must be open to many thigns
 
@DorianGray Nice fallback from disproven arguments. False, general and ambiguous statements are always good.
 
you know, I tried CS
 
you can't just blindly support you a language like a ideological thesis.
 
3:39 PM
@FlorianMargaine Good point
 
*your
 
I write every line that runs in my code. I understand it all. no compilers are fucking with me. SOOOO you need to know your new syntax, the REAL language, and how the browsers interpret it. I just need to know the latter.
WIN FOR ME
 
Well, the point is that for them, the new syntax isn't new
 
ooo boy!
 
@DorianGray Like you're doing right now?
 
3:40 PM
But it's still a waste of time
 
@AmaanCheval but there is still new layers to add to an already convoluted the project.
KISS is an acronym for the design principle articulated by Kelly Johnson, Keep it simple stupid!. Variations include "keep it stupid simple", "keep it short and simple", "keep it simple sir", "keep it simple or be stupid", "keep it simple and stupid", "keep it simple and straightforward" or "keep it simple and sincere." The KISS principle states that most systems work best if they are kept simple rather than made complex, therefore simplicity should be a key goal in design and unnecessary complexity should be avoided. Origin The acronym was coined by Kelly Johnson, lead engineer at the L...
 
marijuana is a hell of a drug.
 
It seems the world of JS developers have forgotten KISS
 
@FlorianMargaine I don't watch French Informations programs from here, but do they talk about the Rape case as much as Internet does?
 
then TypeScript is KISSing really passionately..
 
3:41 PM
the rape case?
 
@DorianGray lol
 
@rlemon there is nothing wrong with JS developers. That problem touches only people who like to pretend.
 
When you say something new, some people will attack you :) no country for an old man
 
@FlorianMargaine like... the judgement... people convince of rape... 3 years suspended sentence?
 
@DorianGray , come back when you understand that you have not been "saying" anything new
you are the kid who replaces "you" with "u" and "are" with "r"
 
3:43 PM
@dievardump haven't heard of this
 
@FlorianMargaine wouw...
 
I propose a new Internet Law. As an argument progressed, the probability of either group to raise Ad-hominem arguments approached 1, and the entire conversations turns into an ad-hominem fest.
 
@Zirak it's called the darwin law
 
!!/define ad-hominem
What, no bots running?
 
@AmaanCheval "attacking person instead of opinion"
 
3:44 PM
@tereško : If I look closely to you, I believe I will be able to see some human flesh stuck in your teeth :)
 
Really rlemon? Whenever I disable mine...? dictionary.reference.com/browse/ad+hominem
 
@tereško Thanks
 
!!/!!
^Should repeat last command
 
Why would that be useful?
 
For when the bot isn't running :p
Like you start it now, and then just !!/!!
 
3:45 PM
haha
 
Not run the last command, look for the last command that wasn't run or something
 
It's a pretty standard part of command line
 
Guys you're missing a point. I am not saying TypeScript is the ultimate solution but I am saying it is good and useful.
 
i just got a freaking ticket with 31 points
 
And you don't have attack an opinion or a way which is helpful and easy for people
 
3:46 PM
and now i get to split them up in seperate tickets. FML
 
@GNi33 Elaborate.
31 points?
 
@DorianGray You were at one point implying that it was.
 
well the client wrote down 31 "bug-reports" (mostly label-related) into one ticket
 
@FlorianMargaine nothing about that ?

(english) http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-19930243

(French)
http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2012/09/18/le-calvaire-de-nina-victime-de-viols-collectifs-dans-sa-cite_1761704_3224.html

http://www.lemonde.fr/societe/article/2012/10/11/proces-des-tournantes-un-verdict-en-permis-de-violer_1774225_3224.html
 
@DorianGray I don't have to attack an opinion?
 
3:47 PM
I wasn't. I was saying (if you read it carefully) that I was good, It was useful and it was offering many nice goodies for the people who like static typing etc.
 
@GNi33 Oh, I was thinking driving law related
 
@AmaanCheval Then you can either edit and post it again, and it can't really store the last command if the bot wasn't running. Re-posting is easier.
@SomeKittens It's not really a command-line. It doesn't compile your code or something, the absolute majority of commands are static.
 
hehe, no
 
@Zirak Yeah, probably
 
you shouldn't attack it, you should tell your own opinion without disrespecting others'
 
3:48 PM
gladly not, 31 points would pretty much mean you're not allowed to be 100 metres in distance of a motorised vehicle i guess
 
But sure, if you think it'll be useful, re-running the last command run isn't difficult.
 
if you say, it is worthless, it is bad then no one will ever listen to you.
 
@GNi33 I don't know what 31 points would mean in that context
 
what's important is to try to see the strong and useful points of other opinions.
 
@DorianGray Actually, I'll listen to rlemon, et al. because they've proven to be right many times in the past.
 
3:49 PM
@Zirak The last command run would probably be useless
 
not sure either... i think you'd lose your license with 10 points in germany or something like that
 
@dievardump oh yeah, saw that
 
Except for maybe the Chuck Norris jokes
 
@DorianGray Which is exactly what you did when you said teresko eats humans.
 
never got a driving-related ticket in my life, so i wouldn't know
 
3:49 PM
well then check out what he said about me.
 
Moot argument is moot. Let's go back to Florian's pedophilia.
 
I am 26 and mature enough but he was saying sh*t about me.
 
@FlorianMargaine They are making petition and today some demonstration.
 
oh grow up.
 
@Zirak I was about to star that. Hard to refrain
 
3:51 PM
@FlorianMargaine 3 deferred/suspended years... when you're convince of rape...? Shame.
 
@DorianGray that was a joke about your previous sentence "tool for me and people like me", didn't you get it? :>
 
and a person who says sh*t about other people without knowing them over a programming language is a immature child.
 
@dievardump yeah totally
 
I didn't get it.
 
too bad
 
3:51 PM
@DorianGray People like me.
No, they don't.
 
8 mins ago, by tereško
you are the kid who replaces "you" with "u" and "are" with "r"
 

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