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12:00 AM
the one that was metriced and then discussed. I would need to pull out the literature I'm right now too lazy for, I think it were Coplien & Bjørnvig referring to actual studies.
And do not misread me, there is much use in TDD from a developers perspective.
I can fetch that again some other day and ping you. I was surprised, too.
 
@hakre , i think you have been trying to gets some sleep for past 3 hours
 
well, I was getting awake again :)
 
God damn cat
 
@DaveRandom ?
 
@ShaquinTrifonoff I had a message half written in the box I think, not even sure what it was relating to, and the cat walked across the keyboard and sent it. Sorry for the random ping.
stackoverflow.com/a/12666210/1710543 because I need that account to have enough rep to get into chat so I can test stuff without p***ing you guys off all the time.
 
12:20 AM
@DaveRandom That account has 31 rep now.
 
:-)
 
@hakre Accounts need at least 20 to participate in chat.
 
@DaveRandom you should get an upvote just for not concatenating the string before echoing
 
20, which I got, but it's still bitching at me that I don't have enough. Gonna go have a cigarette and hopefully it'll have caught up with itself by then.
@tereško OP actually did that, I just added the shuffle() call. It's a total rep-whore and not a great answer but it answers the question and it serves the purpose I need it to and I'm getting so pissed off with this bug that frankly I'm past caring.
 
12:27 AM
heh
 
12:46 AM
hmm ... i did not know that SumatraPDF could read also .epub and .mobi
 
@tereško oh cool.
 
well .. that bit would be useless for people who do not use it
 
1:09 AM
Just noticed my NAS had a dead drive. Any guesses how long it'll take a 1.8TB array to rebuild? My guess is #never...
 
hmm ... time to sleep .. the is coming
 
1:55 AM
I HAVE BLOODY FIXED IT!
and now I am going to bed
 
lol
 
 
4 hours later…
Mic
5:45 AM
hi guys, anyone whose familiar in yii framework? because I always got this kind of error
CDbDataReader and its behaviors do not have a method or closure named "queryAll".
thanks :)
 
6:26 AM
Good morning fellow earthlings.
 
Mic
Hi @Christian, goodmorning, may i ask if your familliar in yii? thank you
 
@Mic Never used it, but seen some code...
 
Mic
@Christian, so sad, I'm new in Yii framework and I always got lost :(
 
From what I can tell about your error, you're calling queryAll but it doesn't exist.
Can you post your code on php.pastebin.com?
 
Mic
@Christian, sure, actually, I can also post it here
 
6:28 AM
That's ok if it ain't too long.
 
Mic
@Christian, here's the error "throw new CException(Yii::t('yii','{class} and its behaviors do not have a method or closure named "{name}".',"
 
@Mic That is the code that is generating the error, but it is not the faulty code in itself.
If that message is indeed what it says to be, than the problem is that queryAll is being used somewhere where it shouldn't.
^ Guys, what do you think of this?
 
Mic
6:51 AM
@Christian, sorry for the late response, ok i'll see it on myself :) Thanks a lot.
 
good morning ladies!
 
Mic
@hakre, goodmorning :)
 
morning
 
Morning all
@Christian I think it could be misleading. It doesn't take into account the call_user_func_array overhead. I'd also rather that the class only did profiling, rather than hardcoding an output format too.
 
@Paul Yeah, the output thing is pretty bad.
Ideally, someone ought to pass a output object or something
However, I'm slightly concerned with the private methods and properties.
 
7:04 AM
@Christian your call_user_func does not return the result of the operation and why not just use xdebug or xhprof for these things?
 
In theory, I could I could tone it down to two methods; the constructor and __call
@Gordon :D
I was considering using this on a production server in some specific cases (where xdebug etc could prove too much of a hole).
 
@Gordon maybe you want to trace one object? Then it could make sense .... :)
@Christian xhprof is for production I think.
 
Well, this is mostly a toy for now :)
CUFA overhead is something I didn't think of, and I know that function is slow, so I guess it should be tested out.
 
I would not further wiggle much with it.
"Overloading" through magic methods in PHP is limited.
So in the end, you can not do it that way I'd say generally.
Then you would need to add different strategies and so on and so forth.
Much work for not much use.
 
@hakre I'm kind of lost
I mean, I did not understand your last 3 points.
 
7:17 AM
@Christian The use of your object is limited. The magic methods can not cover all "native" ways to access an object, so it will not work with all objects. Which kinda defeats it's purpose.
 
@hakre OK, now I'm purely curious. Let's forget the (lack of) usefulness to this thing. What example can you give me?
Other than the constructor (which isn't supposed to do work anyway, right?), I don't see this a problem.
 
7:37 AM
@Christian static calls, array access, iterator, countable, basically everything that requires your profiled object to have a certain type
 
@Gordon static? Not in my dictionary. :D
I suppose I could do the same with __callStatic, but it would require a different system for profiling.
array access...hmm food for thought
But I think I get the point.
There are some cases where parent methods specifically call other methods at their level.
Though I'm not sure that would be a problem considering I'm profiling the actual/initially called method
Anyhow, nice discussion and all :)
 
@Christian it's all fine and dandy for the major part, e.g. method calling. it just won't work anymore when you need to profile a certain collaborator inside your object graph when that collaborator has to be a certain type. you'd have to have a custom decorator then implementing/extending the profiled interface/object
@Christian you could use an approach similar to what phpunit uses to create mock objects, e.g. generate a class at runtime which subclasses the to be profiled class, overloads all the methods within, wrapping them into your profiling code. that would allow you to use them profile objects with everything then.
@Christian but like i said, for the usual 80% your profile objects works fine. so it depends on the use case
 
7:58 AM
what @gordon said :) I won't stop you playing around with it, I think I did similar magic stuff in the past for different things but in the end you come to a point where you think meeeeh. Just wanted to leave a small warning.
 
need a tip how to accomplish this: a have a mysql table. for simplicity's sake, let's say it has 2 columns, ID and image url. The image url is of an external website. How would I script it so that all images are downloaded to my server and renamed to ID.jpg?
 
@UnoMeinAme how do you think it can be achieved?
 
@Gordon well, i will cycle thru the database. i guess my question is how do i download external files to my server
 
@UnoMeinAme php.net/copy
 
Also you could leave a marker column in the DB whether you've downloaded the image already, so that you can do the downloads one after the other conditionally.
 
8:03 AM
3
A: difference in reading XML from source code manually copied and programitically generated by PHP

GordonIt looks like you have magic quotes enabled. If magic_quotes_runtime is enabled, most functions that return data from any sort of external source including databases and text files will have quotes escaped with a backslash. So when you use fgets to read in the file, any quotes will be esca...

there is three ways to download/copy a remote file to the local host in that answer
 
thank you. let me have a look!
simple. thank you so very much!
 
@UnoMeinAme you are welcome, also consider what @hakra suggested, although you could simply check whether a file with that ID from the db already exists in the file system.
 
morning all
 
hi @DaveRandom :)
 
@DaveRandom hmm... the JS room first and then here?
hey @DaveRandom
 
8:09 AM
Yeh had the wrong tab open :-P
(although I do actually have a JS question for this morning)
 
the table i use is automatically generated, but i can check if the file exists, and not redownload it
 
Sem
@DaveRandom You sir, are bending the truth. And good morning :)
 
@Sem S'not my fault you are naturally distrustful from years of paranoia induced by soft drug abuse :-P
How are we all this morning? Enjoying the delicious Mondayness?
 
Sem
8:24 AM
@DaveRandom Hating the Google Maps API more and more, what about you?
 
@all: good afternoon
 
@Sem Google maps API is paid right? at least you gotta give you credit card details and all right?
cos when I tried for the API key it said so...
 
@all: in my facebook type comment example i am writing comment and store the data in my database using ajax.but problem is that whenever i make coment, comment cant dispaly on the page what can i do to solve this problem....any help appricated
 
Sem
@ShyamK You can even use the API without a key.
 
@Sem Having an argument with DOM mutation events.
 
8:30 AM
@all:hello
 
Sem
@DaveRandom C'mon man, $('el').live(); solves that problem easily.
 
@Sem I'm trying to un-jQ-ify this in the long run. Using jQ to solve the problem now is just putting it off, I want to put the work in now and not worry about it later if possible.
I still just can't get over the InternalFrameInternalFrameTitlePaneInternalFrameTitlePaneMaximizeButtonPainter
If I ever had to use I'd probably extend it just for the sake of removing that name from my code
 
Sem
8:48 AM
@DaveRandom How the hell did you get to make that? pastebin?
 
NikiC found it last night:
10 hours ago, by NikiC
Java fun: http://javadoc.bugaco.com/com/sun/java/swing/plaf/nimbus/InternalFrameInternalFr‌​ameTitlePaneInternalFrameTitlePaneMaximizeButtonPainter.html
 
Morning
 
Sem
9:11 AM
@DaveRandom Holy crap, that should be illegal to use. Just as illegal as softdrugs in the UK!
 
@Sem [shakes fist] Why I oughta...
 
Yes I discovered this question :)
22
Q: How to get useful error messages in PHP?

CandidasaI find programming in PHP quite frustrating. Quite often I will try and run the script and just get a blank screen back. No error message, just empty screen. The cause might have been a simple syntax error (wrong bracket, missing semicolon), or a failed function call, or something else entirely. ...

It might come handy if you're looking for some duplicate suggestion for all those "what is wrong" questions that pop up lately.
 
@Sem explain how... or a link to how...
I could try it out on my own... but I'll do that later...
 
Sem
@ShyamK maps.googleapis.com/maps/api/… just include the maps api without a key parameter
 
Sem
9:24 AM
And now I hate Windows 8. Metro GUI is made in HTML 5 to make everything so flexible. Even so I can't use metro apps on my netbook because the resolution is 1024x600 (min. is 1024x768). Never had that before with non-flexible GUIs :/
 
@Sem that's why it's called Windows H8
 
everyone hates Windows, no?
 
Sem
No really, since when does HTML require a minimum resolution?! WTF Microsoft.
 
lol... windows h8
 
9:50 AM
guys can some one tell me whats the top 3 web host
 
Hi Gordon
 
Hey guys, I have a question - I'm writing chat with AJAX+PHP but I have database error - max user connection with more users. I want the chat to refresh every 1 second. Is there any way to refresh the chat once for all users? Because with AJAX it gets refreshed every 1 second * every single user
 
@Gordon i dont think google is good idea
maybe they are fake
bcz i try some show some and some show some
 
@MichałKról Increase the number of database connections allowed on the server, but "refresh every 1 second" is the wrong approach, you want to use something more like a long polling technique, or (better) websockets. With websockets you could also get around the max database connections problem, because a single socket daemon can handle multiple clients with a single database connection.
 
10:05 AM
@DaveRandom Awsome, thank you Dave
 
dave do you know top 3 web hots
 
@DanishIqbal well, maybe we will tell you fake top 3 webhosts, too. We are a mean bunch in here. You cannot trust us not to tell you fake webhosts. So, you will never know. No one can be trusted.
 
@DanishIqbal It's a very subjective question anyway, but in general no I don't because pretty much everything I ever do is hosted internally. When it come to shared hosts, they all suck.
@Gordon Maybe we should change the last sentence of the room description to "If anybody can and wants to troll you, they will."
 
@Gordon but here is i believe bcz of up votes u got
 
And I think I've just found my newest little person.
 
10:14 AM
@DanishIqbal well, then let me assure you that for your question using google is fine and assuming webhosts listed there to be "fake" is unreasonable, to put it mildly.
 
buddy i didnt mean all is fake
i mean few of them fake which make hard to get the correct 3
what do you say about justhost.com
 
@DanishIqbal buddy, when I say use Google, then I dont mean pick the first three that show up but search google for a top 10 list or some page that has such lists. There is plenty of those. There is no one in here who can reasonably tell you the "top 3 list" of all webhosters out there. besides, you didnt put criteria so all we could possibly do is tell you which hosters we like but that's subjective.
 
now i am more confuse
some show 1.justhost.com 2. bluehost.com
and other shows totally different
 
10:29 AM
 
thank you so much @Gordon
 
@DanishIqbal I found it on Google ;)
 
oh
what you wrote
 
Erm that Top Web Hosting Companies is a joke.
They are popular but rubbish service.
 
morning
 
10:35 AM
morning
one of my client website down many times with blue host
 
@tereško Morning
30 mins ago, by DaveRandom
@DanishIqbal It's a very subjective question anyway, but in general no I don't because pretty much everything I ever do is hosted internally. When it come to shared hosts, they all suck.
 
dave i didnt have much clients and no good knowledge of server maintenance
 
another answer to flag: stackoverflow.com/a/12671671/367456 - not an answer and just C/P that user tends to become really famous for.
 
11:23 AM
I am trying to convert .pdf file to a string and using the following code "http://www.sitepoint.com/forums/showthread.php?92149-extracting-text-from-pdf", But it works for selected .pdf files.
Need some help
 
Sem
@DaveRandom , do you use classes and object initializations frequently in JS?
 
@hakre following up on your namesake? ;)
 
@Sem Reasonably often, why?
 
@Gordon oh well that guy was running across, it's actual worthy to go through his answers, because mostly the questions can be closed right ahead. Some sort of human intelligence to locate CV candidates ;)
 
Sem
11:33 AM
@DaveRandom I only sort functions in a JSON object or by extending the jQuery library. But classes n' objects is definitely the coolest way. Asked about it earlier in the JS room and they were crying about even having the idea since a DOM element is an object already etc. That kept me from trying that. But I guess it will be the first new thing I'll be doing in JS :)
 
Hi guys.
 
I'm building a pagination script with some ascendants. I don't know but they're being created in inverse order. I'm sure that is a very simple thing. http://pastebin.com/N0U8VfS2

Any ideas?
 
@Sem Well it depends what you're doing. There's not much point in wrapping DOM objects unless you're going to extend them (that's how jQ works) or you want custom built collections. But business logic in any UI application often makes a lot more sense in a class-driven OO implementation.
 
11:37 AM
Does anyone has some knowledge on how to store data in a blob field?
 
@IvoPereira $pagination['actual_page'] - $i -> change the - to + & good morning ;)
 
@Richard What is the data? And what's the problem you are having?
 
Sem
@DaveRandom The example you posted in the chat earlier, that's the way you do it mostly as well?
 
@Sem Sorry, which example when?
 
Sem
@DaveRandom <---- This one
 
11:40 AM
I already posted a question, but I am not closer to an answer. It is a html canvasimage that I post with ajax. If I use the exact data from toDataURL the blob field shows zero
 
Arrgh xD can't believe it :p
thank you a lot hakre :)
good morning you too!
 
@Richard Yes, I've seen the various related questions. I must admit I have problems to understand your root cause.
Is it decoding the dataURI you get from javascript and post via AJAX into just the binary data?
 
@Sem Oh right the namespacing thing. To be honest I rarely write things that are complex enough to need namespacing, I generally just do a load of function ClassName(args) { /* constructor here */ } style definitions, but there are some situations where it might make more sense to group classes together. A problem with that design, I realised after, is that it would be quite difficult to reference your own namespace without an absolute path.
@Sem This is a good read, even if you think you know it all already :-P
Not directly related but very useful
 
@hakre I need the data that I posted to get into the blobfield, but I don't know how, I know to little of working with binarydata so it's difficult to get more precise in getting my problem out I guess
 
Sem
@DaveRandom Cheers, I'll look into it anyway. Class OO in both front end and backend might be an anti-pattern though. Let's hope not :)
 
11:51 AM
@hakre, did you understand that
 
or anyone else
freaking blobfield
 
@Sem Not really (I would say) the back end's responsibility is simply to produce the initial state for the front end. In a way they are two separate applications that communicate via an API, and how each handles it's individual tasks is not really the concern of the other. Others (specially those who are better at OOP) may have differing opinions though, YMMV.
 
@tereško let's upvote it through the sky ;)
 
11:53 AM
@tereško wrong tag. should be stackoverflow.com/questions/12667407/…
 
@Richard okay, binary data in PHP is just a string. To convert from the data-uri, please see the link to the other question I gave you, if you're unsure.
 
I think I read that one, could not completely understand it, I will have a look again
 
-1
A: Guide line to make OOP website

tassoevanLearn MVC concept first. I don't know another start point to using classes on website creation.

 
is it possible to make IP.Board's forums session login on my site?
if a person is logged in on Ip.Board forum named 'X' then continue, else -> 404?
 
Sem
@DaveRandom So what you're saying is that it's a bad habit to let the back-end spit out HTML to the browser?
 
12:05 PM
@Richard I mean this one:
2
Q: PHP Data-URI to file

GAgnewI have a data URI I am getting from javascript and trying to save via php. I use the following code which gives a apparently corrupt image file: $data = $_POST['logoImage']; $uri = substr($data,strpos($data,",")+1); file_put_contents($_POST['logoFilename'], base64_decode($uri)); data:...

 
w00
@MichałKról Look for the term "Single Sign On". Seems to be possible
 
because I'm making chat for forum's users and I want them to login only once, on the forums
 
it might not be the best question and answer, but it should shed some additional light next to your question and answer.
 
@w00 ok
 
thankyou, I missed that link, I am reading it know
 
@w00 yeah, found it too. Nice. thank you
 
@Sem No I include the initial DOM in "initial state".
 
Rebuilding...(82%)
 
@ircmaxell Didn't realise you were the six million dollar man. Everything starts to fall into place...
 
Sem
12:08 PM
@DaveRandom And by initial state you mean HTML without events?
 
Volume: RAID 5 Disk Volume: Drive 1 2 3 4
Total Size 2059.78 GB
Free Size 1030.66 GB
Status Rebuilding...(82%)
 
$uriPhp = 'data://' . substr($uri, 5);
 
@Sem Yes exactly. Take SO chat for example, the DOM now looks nothing like it did when you first loaded the page. The front end application communicates with the back end via an API, but the two are somewhat distinct and mutually exclusive. You could completely re-design the back end without affecting the front end as long as you don't change the API, and vice versa.
 
the clou is to substr the strpos(',',$_Post[canvas])...i hope I get it right now
 
Sem
@DaveRandom Then we're on the same line I guess. Although I want to make a framework where all the HTML/CSS is generated by JS. Maybe in 10 years when I'm less lazy :D
 
12:18 PM
@ircmaxell i use Raid 10 =)
 
I am planning on upgrading to 2TB drives and switching to Raid 1/0...
 
@Richard I'd suggest you start with data:// . substr($_Post['canvas'], 5); first. Because for plain base64_decode you need to do other stuff for large files.
 
mooorning
 
@Sem Could be very interesting (N.B. interesting != good idea), let me know if you ever decide to do that as would like to get involved if I have the time.
 
@ircmaxell Raid 10 would be better than Raid 1/0
Much safer and faster.
 
12:21 PM
Oh, and welcome back @hakre :)
 
It is the same. A mirror of stripes...
 
To be honest, SSD drive on Raid 1 would be fast as raid 10
Even use Raid 10 even double faster
Have you heard Unraid? I use this for media storage.
 
I should make a 1+0 out of 4 of these newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820227713 (a $10000 array)
 
Sem
@DaveRandom Well I heard @tereško saying once that if you want to get as close to a RMVC framework (Real MVC) as possible you will need to let javascript to all the rendering.
 
@Sem , i was talking about implementing classical MVC in web , which is impractical and extremely complicated
 
12:27 PM
@ircmaxell samsung SSD is very good though
 
Yeah, but $10,000 for 2.9TB, or $800 for 4TB...
 
@I'll-Be-Back I fail to see the point in having a raid-ed SSD storage
especially in context of this chat room
the drive speed is important only when you have it locally
 
Sem
@tereško That's what I meant, classical MVC === RMVC. Maybe CMVC would be a better acronym :)
 
@Sem no , the acronym is "MVC". The other patterns are Model2 MVC, MVP, MVVM .. then somewhat unrelated : HMVC, n-Tier and PAC .. also , i em tempted to add "Rails MVC" to the list
 
@NikiC good mornings :)
 
Sem
12:31 PM
@tereško But that gets abused on a daily basis
 
stop the abuse. it's like with drink and drive, you know?
 
@ircmaxell , can you actually think of a good usecase for Raid'ed SSD system ?
 
@tereško you and your implementation quibble … ;)
 
Sem
It's easy, MVC frameworks for the web aren't MVC. And 90% of the devs see MVC as CI, Kohana or even Wordpress. Basically the meaning behind the acronym changed and MVC is Classic MVC (CMVC) now. So people at least understand what you're talking about.
 
@Gordon , you would you disagree that MVC pattern in web and desktop applications is significantly different ?
the model2/mvp/mvvm just describes the pattern used in presentation layer, because there are 3 different ways to do it
 
12:39 PM
@tereško you know my take on MVC. It's a pattern to separate user interaction into three distinct roles. There is no notion of "web" or "desktop" in that definition, nor does it matter who talks to whom specifically as long as the separation between UI and Model is kept up.
on a sidenote, you are missing MVC+U from your list, which takes the user into account and adds the idea of a direct manipulation metaphor.
again, without any notion of environment
 
@Gordon will have to look into that one
 
to me, all the talk about how MVC should be implemented, whether its HMVC or Model 2 or whether its suitable for the web is completely irrelevant. MVC is about roles to me. Not about tiers.
 
D+MVC - takes the developer upfront, probably most often an issue ;)
 
anyway , the issue is actually that the "Rails MVC" thing does not have the separation between model and presentation layers
 
have to run. laters.
 
12:45 PM
@Gordon , either you are full of it, or it is impossible to google "mvc+u"
 
@tereško Plenty, none for my needs though
@tereško RAID is usually not about drive speed. It's usually about redundancy...
 
which is why it seems to me that SSD it quite pointless there
 
Well, I have seen RAID 1+0 done before with a pair of physical drives on one side, and a pair of SSD on the other...
Or even 0/1 where you have an SSD and a Spindle drive paired on either side
The coolest array I ever built was a 12 drive, 600GB 15k RPM SAS RAID 1+0 array (3.6TB)...
It was connected to a DB server with quad quad-core Xeons, 64GB of RAM and dual 200GB SSD RAID 1 drives...
that thing screamed...
 
1:03 PM
@tereško it might be that gordon was referring to:
 
Hey @ircmaxell, when do you leave for the UK?
 
@Leigh Morning, I was beginning to think you had forsaken us today
 
I was here earlier, just didn't say anything. Did full disk encryption over the weekend and I closed the tab
Today I have to convert lots of ereg to preg :(
 
Greetings!
utf-8 should be working for russian too?
 
@Leigh Where do you find these projects? Do you have a portal into the year 2000? (says that guy who still occasionally writes for PHP4)
 
posted on October 01, 2012 by Derick Rethans

Derick's MongoDB Tour Wrap-up London, UK Monday, October 1st 2012, 14:00 BST Over the past two weeks I have been on a whirlwind tour to talk about Profiling PHP Applications (at PFCongres), but mostly about MongoDB at various (PHP) user groups in the South West of the US. 10gen (the makers of MongoDB and my employers) covered my time and f

 
@DanielsPitkevičs yes it should.
 
@DaveRandom We get clients who decide they want the code that was written for them in days gone by, brought up to scratch
 
@hakre but it doesnt. Is it possible, that "?" in database text are russian letters?
 
1:29 PM
@DanielsPitkevičs Possible somewhere your code is not UTF-8 friendly
 
btw , it might just be that the phpMyAdmin is faking with you
 
@Leigh I am now trying just standalone script where i get one entry where SHOULD be russian letters. In database they are shown as question marks, when I receive them with php, i can get particular russian letters.
 
what do you mean by "shown in database" ?
 
user895378
If only I had a $ for every time I've said this to myself:
 
user895378
18 hours ago, by PeeHaa
Fuck me I'm stupid
 
1:33 PM
@tereško When I search particular entry, I can look at its data in phpmyadmin. There is question marks.
 
then it seems more like an issue with phpmyadmin
which you should not care about
 
I was going to say, it could be your "database viewing tool" is not UTF-8 friendly
@rdlowrey So thats how stupid people reproduce :x
 
user895378
Coding background music selection for Oct 1, 2012: Chrono Trigger original video game soundtrack composed by Yasunori Mitsuda.
 
@tereško Ok, yes. But I need to get that data in my web site with correct encoding. I dont give a damn about what it shows in phpmyadmin.
 
hey any admin there?
 
1:37 PM
Is it possible that russian letters which are written in some text areas and then sent to database are just rewritten as question marks? And no way to get real letters back?
 
Aaaand shrunken
 
i want to ask a question but i can't? someone blocked me. please help me admin
 
My tolerance is low today
 
@DanielsPitkevičs it can be. you are having an encoding issue. Let me suggest you some read as you wrote "database" kunststube.net/frontback
 
Sem
@Leigh What have I done this time?
 
1:39 PM
Not you ;) The idiot with the green avatar
 
@SumitBijvani here is no admin, but questions are generally blocked for some reason.
 
@hakre which reason?
 
Sem
@Leigh Sigh, I just wanted to be the center of attention :)
 
@SumitBijvani depends on the question. link?
 
1:40 PM
@SumitBijvani "Quality of questions" reason
 
can anyone help me.. how can i resolve it?
 
@SumitBijvani: Please read: meta.stackoverflow.com/questions/10582/…
 
@SumitBijvani you issue has nothing to do with PHP, please leave
 
@tereško i just want help...
thanks for the help
 
... and then you wonder why you have received a soft-ban .. geez
 
1:44 PM
Ok, screw encodings. I just changed encoding in database table, added one russian letter, saved and I get everything I need.
Except the main text with question marks :D
 
@DanielsPitkevičs , since you have not shown any code , what-so-ever, could you stop the whining ?
this chat room is not for moral support
 
@tereško Someone is in the bad mood...probably no girlfriend, no sex for a long time. Quite sad for You. Anyway, thanks for nothing. Will not whine anymore.
 
Sem
@rdlowrey Is that the only FF soundtrack you're going to listen to or what? :)
 
user895378
More tiny icons ...
 
Sem
@DanielsPitkevičs Doesn't matter, had codes.
 
1:47 PM
@Gordon Had to google the name to find out what that was all about, and then I saw it turned out that mayank swami is that guy - He sure gets mentioned a lot lately. According to Jeff people who get mentioned in a negative light a lot should be removed from SO
 
@Leigh that's not how natural apples rot
 
@tereško I never leave fruit laying around long enough to find out...
 
.. emm ... have you even seen an apple-tree ?
 
Of course
 
in real-life , not in pictures
 
Sem
1:51 PM
Seeing an orangotang studying rotting appels in the zoo. That'll be something.
 
Yes teresko, whats your point? I can't say I specifically remember rotting apples
 
@Leigh Thursday evening
So bcrypt on foobar foo fo0 3d$ (as 4 passwords) with cost of 04 took 7 hours to crack all 4 of them. With cost of 10, it's at 22 hours and counting (having only cracked 2, so it'll take at least 36 hours)...
contrast that to salted md5 which took 6 seconds to crack all 4
 
on CPU?
 

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