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12:05 PM
How about a simple tutorial to run node.js on Windows. ;)
 
I thought I saw one somewhere.. they used mingw
I just ended up setting up an ubuntu machine to do it at home
but I guess amazon ec2 has some sort of free service too
im going to test it on there first, and possibly start making/hosting some node sites
thats the main thing stopping me now
 
I'd certainly like to start trying out node, but I can't get it working on Windows. I'll be getting a new server soon (...this weekend?) though (installing Ubuntu) so I might as well test it out on that
 
yeah definitly do that, its pretty easy to setup
 
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Hey @MylesGray
god 3500 almost now, nice job I am falling way behind
 
12:14 PM
@Loktar aloha sir :)
 
12:33 PM
omg where has 'inspect element' gone from my right click menu :|
 
@Greg Which browser?
 
@YiJiang Chrome 12.0.712.0 dev
 
Chrome 12 :o
 
ummm it's just disappeared!
 
There's probably an extension available to restore it
Or maybe you need the dev tools open to access it now? I'm not on the dev channel
 
12:39 PM
can't find any documentation about it being disabled?
 
I still see it in the canary build (Chrome 12)
 
just disabled all extensions and restarted browser, nothing
I'll try restarting computer
nope
still not there :|
I have no need to be on the dev channel anyway
 
@Greg what is wrong ?
 
I only installed it so (ages ago) I could access the network & timeline inspectors
@OmeidHerat no 'inspect element' in my context menu
 
You on dev on canary
 
12:46 PM
@Shaz 12.0.712.0 dev
 
Strange
have you opened chrome with a new profile ?
 
no, how do I do that>?
 
Tom
good morning
=) everybody
 
Morning @Tom
 
in what platform you are @Greg ?
@Greg BACK YOUR PROFILE BEFORE YOU CREATE A NEW ONE !
YOUR BOOKMARKS AND EVERYTHING WILL DIE !
 
12:54 PM
@OmeidHerat I'm on Ubuntu
 
cool
 
my bookmarks are synced to my google account
 
cause you can lose anything you have done with your browser
it would be like a fresh installation after you create a new profile
and in ubuntu (linux) type "~/.config/google-chrome/Default" in shell.
you must close your browser before typing that command.
 
@OmeidHerat ok here goes
...
 
Lol, the new New Tab page in Chrome 12 is 3k lines of code.
 
1:00 PM
G! 3k lines !?
the page with apps ?
 
Sweet... it's down from the ~7k in Chrome 10
 
@OmeidHerat Yup
 
hem mine is like 0.2K lines, its my todo list !
@Greg do you got your "inspect element button" yet ?
 
Tom
does anybody have experience with codeigniter in here? =P
 
@OmeidHerat nope
started a new profile, still not there
think I will downgrade
 
1:04 PM
hold one
 
Tom
@Greg ctrl+shift+I doesn't work either?
 
did you tried F12 ?
no
what I am saying your on chrome
try CTRL+SHIFT+I
 
@Tom yes I can access the developer tools, but I use right click -> inspect element very often to .... inspect elements funnily enough!
 
Tom
@Greg aha ok... maybe they are rewriting some of that code and that's why it's not availalbe
 
is it easy to downgrade?
 
1:06 PM
Well, you are using the dev channel; things are bound to break
 
@Greg why don't you try to add that button your self ?
aren't you on linux ?
 
@YiJiang the only reason I'm on dev channel is from ages ago when the network tab was introduced
now that's standard right?
@OmeidHerat yep
 
Tom
@Greg yeah normally the chrome dev versions are released as "canary builds" you can install them simultaniously and independently with a normal stable build
 
Awww man, this can answer around 50 - 90% of all core JavaScript language related questions on SO: jibbering.com/faq
3
 
Tom
@YiJiang like =)
 
1:10 PM
Bookmarked !
thanks @YiJiang !
 
Was added in the latest edit to the JavaScript tag wiki: stackoverflow.com/posts/3607052/revisions
 
"A local Date object where 0 <= year <= 9999 can be formatted to a common ISO 8601 format YYYY-MM-DD with:"
Oh crap, guys... it'll be a Y10k bug!
 
@RyanKinal Well, I believe JavaScript date objects might be affected by the Unix timestamp integer overflow problem
 
Tom
@RyanKinal omg I'm totally worried I'l lose my job in 10000 becvause of that
 
Or maybe not
>>> new Date(2060, 1, 1).getTime();
2842792200000
>>> new Date(3060, 1, 1).getTime();
34399699200000
>>> new Date(4060, 1, 1).getTime();
65956696200000
>>> new Date(10000, 1, 1).getTime();
253404952200000
 
1:14 PM
@OmeidHerat I'm on chrome-stable now ... inspect element is back :)
but...
Your profile cannot be used because it is from a newer version of Google Chrome.

Some features may be unavailable. Please specify a different profile directory or use a newer version of Chrome.
even though all my settings and extensions are working, I get that message each time I open Chrome :)
 
hemmm, that is a bit of pain now :(
i reckon it should fix it iteself
 
I'll just delete my profile ... I don't use much that isn't synced
 
restart your computer, it might help, though i don't think so :D
 
rofl... restart a linux machine?
 
ok
dosn't it makes sens for ya @RyanKinal ?
 
1:17 PM
Windows = restarts, linux = actual troubleshooting
 
@Greg did you tried that commend line to create a new profile ?
that might help.
 
@OmeidHerat yeah but it didn't work, I changed one part of it
it was looking above the home directory
 
hemm
so do you get the error anymore ?
 
@OmeidHerat nope, the chrome-stable release fixed this
I killed the profile to remove the other error
 
awesome
 
1:28 PM
I've got nowhere with actual work this afternoon :)
 
same here :D
 
gonna go take a walk with my laptop, see what coffee shop looks inviting.
 
i am going to start a new project and it has been like two days i am getting my workspace ready
 
haha great
 
@Greg Lucky
 
1:29 PM
at lease you're prepared
@RyanKinal lucky what?>
 
yeah i almost there
got my libraries new versions downlaoded
 
@Greg That you get to work from a coffee shop... I'm stuck in the office :-P
 
select my IDE (aptana)
xampp is ready to go !
and installing FF for aptana javascript debuging
(i hope)
probably that is it !
 
@RyanKinal ah I see, well it becomes very hard for me to concentrate at home for some reason
even though there's a tight deadline coming up :-/
 
@Greg I know the feeling. I used to work from home, when I was freelancing
 
1:31 PM
@Greg deadlines sucks !
 
Always got more done at a cafe... called it the "cafe effect"
 
specially if you have lots of programing temptations !
http://programmers.stackexchange.com/questions/51437/harmful-temptations-in-programming
 
Tom
oh, I got a chrome update =)
downing
 
New firefox 4 is nice.
 
@Dinzy I am downloading it atm.
 
Tom
1:34 PM
it's ok but it still has one problem: when I click the icon I have to wait about a minute till the window shows up
 
and it would probably finish in 9min ( yeah my net is super slow, overused my quota)
 
Ooh, new Chrome for me too. brb, restarting
 
Tom
hahaha windows user :D
 
Restarting Chrome, thank you very much
And it's already done :-P
 
mine says, installing new chrome.... in about
i went to check the version i am on 10 right now
I love open source, but hey @Tom linux is for fun and windows is for getting things done.
 
1:37 PM
@Tom But yes. Windows user. I do my work in Visual Studio :-(
 
Tom
@OmeidHerat that makes almost no sense... linux is the most awesome platform for developers, you have plenty of tools and stuff mainly aimed to code
even the default text editor has syntax highlighting integrated
@RyanKinal aww... because you want or because they force you to at work?
 
@Tom Forced to. I prefer Notepad2 when working on Windows, and vim when working on Linux
 
@tom I am agree with that, but before you get your things fixed on your OS
you have to upgrade or something or it will break down
 
@Tom @OmeidHerat Ironically, I run Windows at home not to get things done, but for gaming
 
@RyanKinal do you know productivity ?
 
1:41 PM
@OmeidHerat That's that thing that doesn't happen on Fridays
 
ok now how much time do you spend to get your linux machine ready ?
 
Tom
@OmeidHerat I'm on ubuntu like for 3 years now and it has never broke down on me
I do agree that it takes some technical knowledge to mantain
 
@tom then you probably don't like to have most of it ! :D
 
Tom
@OmeidHerat most of what?
 
Actually, I need a new linux machine... mine died about a year ago (processor fried).
 
1:42 PM
i love open source ! i like linux specially ubuntu and i have mostly windows and linux on dual boot
but hey windows is much more stable.
@tom most of linux (open source thing).
 
@OmeidHerat In the past week, my Windows machine has lost internet access for no apparent reason, bluescreened 3 times, and had window-focus problems throughout. Stable?
 
@RyanKinal still on xp ?
 
Nope... Windows 7
 
Tom
I gave up on windows after XP... I do have a windows7 dual boot but I don't use it.. ever it came with my machine
 
@Tom What, you couldn't figure out the partitions?
 
1:47 PM
@RyanKinal i have got windows 7 since it was on build 7048 or something
and haven't seen a bluescreen yet !
believe me !
 
Tom
@AnonymousLoozah no, I'm fine with partitioning - I'm saying that I don't use windows anymore
I used to until XP
 
Yeah Windows 7 is really great actually
 
@OmeidHerat I think my girlfriend is cursed... she uses that machine all day.
 
as crazy as that sounds
 
there we go @RyanKinal you found it out !
hahah
 
1:49 PM
lol
 
Tom
c'mon people... windows is and will always be crap from now on...
 
@OmeidHerat, I find the new firefox light. Hows your first run? :)
 
Tom
the system should adapt to the user
not the user to the system
 
Linux FTW!
 
Tom
@Dinzy :D yay
 
1:50 PM
@Tom Sorry, gots to have my Bioshock and Fallout 3
 
@Dinzy my net sucks !
 
Tom
@RyanKinal yeah ok for gaming it's acceptable
 
got discounted when it was like ~10Mb out of 12
now i am on 3.2
and it would probably take me like 20minitish to get done
i will let you know when i got it
how was yours ?
 
Yep. Pretty neat.
I like V4 than previous versions.
 
@Dinzy FF?
 
1:54 PM
Yep.
 
@Dinzy its a bit chromized ? isn't ?
 
( Assuming you meant FireFox)
 
@Dinzy Yep.
 
and its even opera-ized as well.
 
Agreed,Omeid. I feel Chrome is,was and will be the best:)
 
1:55 PM
@OmeidHerat They took things from, pretty much, all the good browsers.
I wish it had Operas new tab page, though. It's really nice.
 
There is another browser which runs exactly like chrome, it's called Rockmelt.
 
@Dinzy i am not just agree with you.
I am deadly agree that chrome is the best !
 
@Dinzy @OmeidHerat @AnonymousLoozah FF used to be on top. I'm sure Chrome will be replaced at some point.
 
hahahhahah!!
Agreed.Ryan.. For sure.
 
@RyanKinal Maybe, but not for a long time.
 
1:56 PM
@AnonymousLoozah, develop your own new tab page ! and make it the defualt page for new tabs.
mine is my todo list !
 
I've considered Opera several times. Might give it another shot pretty soon here.
 
Opera,any good? i have never tried it.
 
@OmeidHerat I would if it mattered to me that much, but i'm using chrome for now.
 
@RyanKinal, agree. but i said is ! no future thing in it !
 
@Dinzy Kinda. Looks a lot like mac...
 
1:58 PM
Opera's quick... that's for sure. Back when I tried it last, there were some UI issues.
 
@Dinzy i was using opera-mini on samsung omnia before i got my iPhone
it was so good
 
Also, here's a killer feature: unite.opera.com/overview
 
Tom
Opera has one big feature over all other browser: Native datePicker
date- and time-picker
 
@Tom Say what?
That's the only benefit over the others?
 
@tom, i think safari does as well, but not sure.
 
2:01 PM
Opera goes good for mobiles.
But for pc, i dont have any clue.
 
user69820
Opera also supports slide-show stylesheets, I think
 
Tom
@AnonymousLoozah I think so, there are also other non-standard native input elements... but not very usable to be honest
like sliders... but very primitive and ugly, not stylable
 
I can't wait for html5
a developers life would be much easier then !
 
Tom
@OmeidHerat I would hire terminator and send him to kill whoever invented IE haha
 
@Tom omg that ripples that would occur. The browser landscape would be completely different.
 
2:04 PM
@Tom if you going to do sucha goodness to humanity, destroying IE, count me in !
 
@OmeidHerat I prefer improving IE to destroying it
 
Tom
 
@Martijn same here, but that is not even possible.
@tom ! that is sad ! the IE will make chrome sick !
 
Tom
I made this logo some time ago
 
Anybody think this is cool? dcm.net46.net/test/gen.
 
2:09 PM
@AnonymousLoozah: loading.... (net speed: 4kb/month)
 
Tom
@AnonymousLoozah it's... ok
 
ok 10.7 out of 12mb downloaded....
i hope my net dosn't cut or something
 
you are almost there!:)
 
yeah man
 
how is IE 9?
 
2:10 PM
i am so keen to see it !
I HAVE NO CLUE !
 
Tom
are you on 56k or something?
 
:)
 
its IE anyways
 
Tom
@Dinzy under heavy testing for reviews
 
lol
 
2:11 PM
@Tom nah man ADS2+ but over quota, and they slow my net down ! :(
almost there .6mb left
 
@Tom, Hope IE will be equal competitor with Foxans and Chromans!:)
 
does FF has 64bit for windows ?
 
If they havnt specified about seperate binaries for 64 and 32, i guess the setup will work for both.
Not sure, but a guess.
 
its looks like a no
but 32bit softwares work fine on 64bit anyways
 
Yeah.
 
2:15 PM
FF4 is Chrome Clone !
 
lol
 
lol
 
that is why its much better then FF3
 
hahahha
Chrome lovers! :)
I have ff4, stilll i stick to chrome.
 
but to be honest, its even looks more polished then chrome
 
2:16 PM
looking pretty cool , right?
than prev ones.
 
yeah man looks like a hep cat !
lolz
 
lmao
 
<--- is a hep cat
 
I might seriously consider moving back :D :P
 
:)
Whats new for Natty Narwhal release? :)
I cant wait for the next release.
 
Tom
2:22 PM
28th April 2011
Natty Narwhal
 
Nice. Sigh! One Month.
 
Table for layout! On my wiki page. Because we all use tables!
 
back to 90's @Raynos !!! and we don't use tables to set on them because we have chair.
 
@Raynos Say what?
 
sit* opss!
 
2:32 PM
I've got some legends that I need tables for
This colour -> that data.
This input -> that data.
 
@RyanKinal Opera Unite is really neat, but nobody seems to make anything with it. unitehowto.com is the only non-official documentation thing I've found.
 
so you want table for table, cause table for layout sucks !
 
@James Yeah, that's the thing. It has a terribly poor adoption rate. But it's awesome
 
@James P2P games here we go! You can use Opera Unite to start a minecraft server in your browser :)
You can sell that for big bucks :D
 
got the new chrome !
 
2:39 PM
New chrome?
 
yeah it had an update but i was minor :( still 10.0.xxx
any good web2 css template resource ?
 
Web2 CSS...?
 
web2 style css template :D
 
Tom
like web 2.0?
 
oh goodness..
web 2.0
i hate that term so much lol
 
2:41 PM
Do you mean: does anybody know a good place to find web 2.0 css templates?
 
G! yeah web 2.0 style css template for web application.
 
Tom
@Loktar this
 
@OmeidHerat Like, admin side template?
 
the terms and language is all about understand
yeah but not that much admin :D
 
So it's something a visitor sees?
 
2:43 PM
its a kinda like a guestbook that users can put stuff and admin can remove and change em
sort of multiuser microblog
 
So are you asking for an admin template, or just normal site template?
 
like a commenting system?
 
not really, its like a logging system
 
Tom
who's in the mood for funny videos?
 
ok now you got my question, how got an answer ?
 
Tom
2:46 PM
here's a great one: lmgtfy.com/?q=free+webpage+templates
 
nah man, i don't like that anymore, its has turned to crap
probably time for doing something else, not googling
 
when an element has the contenteditable attribute, can the user edit the text of that element's children?
 
@Greg I haven't worked with contentEditable for ages, man.
 
@Greg, i don't think so attributes are not inherited i reckon.
but its always easer to give it a try your self
 
2:49 PM
ok its not much to make the children contenteditable too
 
I'd recommend setting up a simple test, but my instinct is "yes", they will be editable
 
@AnonymousLoozah Cheers man ! that looks good, and there are other ones as well.
@Greg yeah sorta.
 
@OmeidHerat Yeah, I was overjoyed when I found it.
 
let me have a look at the sources if they are as good as the look of the templates
 
The source looks pretty clean, to me.
 
2:53 PM
then probably will go with it.
 
Tom
a lot of floats if you ask me
 
and it really worths giving the credit (link to website of template)
 
@OmeidHerat Huh?
Arcsin.se?
 
yup
 
Tom
svenska :D interesting language
 
2:55 PM
that is what they say in term and conditions, its free for any propose but give credits (link in footer to they are site)
 
Tom
anyone talking swedish in here?
 
@OmeidHerat Oh, I see what you mean.
 
Tom
no? ok u.u
ok guys gonna go get dinner, have fun, cu later
 
Yeah... no Swedish for me. English and a bit of French
 
Tom
bye bytes
 
2:55 PM
later
 
@Tom I know I don't talk swedish!
 
SA vs NZ. SA in trouble.
 
i would like to use this one, templates.arcsin.se/demo/fluid-solution-website-template but have to change the pinks cause everyone would label me as gay while i am not.
excuses me @Dinzy ?
 
@OmeidHerat That should be pretty easy.
 
i know
just a bit of css
 
2:57 PM
I'd probably go with a red in place of the pink. Seems to suit it.
 
Although I don't think anyone would label you as gay unless it was a personal site :)
But that's a really good blog template.
 
yeah that would be cool ! black and red goes good togather
@AnonymousLoozah will it gonna be a logging system for research project and probably some other guys at school might like to use it as well so they would do label me as gay if they see that pink while i am not gay.
 
I would make the border on the header a little darker/bigger, though.
 

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