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9:00 AM
I don't see how there'd be anything iPhone-specific in it
late binding can be convenient, whether you're targeting iphone, xbox or a mars rover
it also has its disadvantages, of course :)
 
@BartekBanachewicz Not safe for life. As in "this room will ruin your life". Like a certain other site.
 
@Mysticial I am ^^
 
Interesting, using an auto-refresher can get you banned from SO. I've been using one for 10 months now and I'm still not banned. :)
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes that seems nice. Click.
 
"BREAKING: Tesla museum explodes, causing second Tunguska event across the earth, killing millions, upsetting global politics"
The Oatmeal's evil plan was revealed!
 
9:05 AM
Are there millions living around the Tunguska?
 
millions of what? ants? flies? bacteria?
 
Things. Duh.
@LucDanton "the"?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes The event is apparently named for a river or geographical feature (basin? valley?) named after the river.
 
'Nile event across the earth' sounds funny, too.
 
9:09 AM
Amazon event sounds better, somehow.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Kindly.
SCNR.
 
I don't get it.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes Now?
 
Oh. That's a terrible pun.
 
sbi
@R.MartinhoFernandes That's why I immediately asked for being forgiven.
 
9:21 AM
@sbi iForgot already
 
From what I know, at least in iPhone development, MVC is done by having a controller interact with one or more views, and one or more models. The models and the views should not know of each other. Isn't that the general case? According to Wikipedia, "A model notifies its associated views and controllers when there has been a change in its state."
@jalf You are the pattern master =)
 
So, this artist pumped 75000 litres of copper sulphate into a flat, let it there for weeks crystallising and then drained it. The end result was this: artangel.org.uk/projects/2008/seizure/inside_151_189_harper_rd/…
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I haven't had time to read your blog post yet. I'll hopefully read it tonight, sorry.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes you can do it in a jar
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes nice
-2
Q: Creating pair object c++

user1602564Why it's not possible to create a pair object in the following way: pair<int,int> p1 = {0,42}

Why does nobody mention the obvious std::pair<int, int> p(0,42);?
 
9:37 AM
@Xeo make_pair is better
 
Xeo
no it's not for automatic objects in C++03
 
sbi
@Xeo It is mentioned.
 
Xeo
@sbi Where?
Well, now it is, after I made my comment
 
@ManofOneWay wut?
 
Xeo
And man, I want a "no research effort" close reason...
 
9:44 AM
@Xeo Or even better, "That question shows research effort" my ass. (dunno who used it here originally)
 
@Xeo Should we edit the title to 'Grow a pair'?
completely agreed: (@Xeo)
> If you need to write the types, don't use std::make_pair – Xeo 8 mins ago
 
Xeo
Oh, and I forgot to mention an important point for c++11 - it disables the perfect forwarding part of it
 
That too
Allthough, Kiril was probably referring to 'sometimes you need to specify the types' regarding cases where you want implicit conversions done (making perfect forwarding rather unapplicable)
 
Well, if they are implicit, you still want std::make_pair to do its own thing.
 
@LucDanton Well, unless you want std::pair<Foo, Bar> x = std::make_pair(1, 2); ?
Thinking about it, does that work in c++11?
 
9:54 AM
Yes.
 
Xeo
sure, converting copy ctor
 
Oo. I missed the point then. The perfect forwarding thing KILLS the one remaining argument by the OP (Kiril) :)
 
Well, to give you credit none of this is obvious. Took time to refine the std::pair interface. (And there are still kinks.)
 
There always are.
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Q: When to use `static_assert` instead of SFINAE?

WalterI have been using (and seen used) static_assert to flag undesired values of template parameter values. However, for all cases I came across it seems better and more elegant to disable those undesired values via SFINAE. For example template<typename T, class = std::enable_if<std::i...

OMG, a nice question.
 
Impossible.
 
10:06 AM
And a crappy answer.
 
Can you SFINAE entire classes?
 
Xeo
Sure
 
I suspect template<typename T> void foo(T, Foo<T>); is an example that involves both SFINAE and Foo. But it's not idiomatic.
 
SFINAE seems pretty useless to me. I think I just don't understand the concept well enough
 
10:09 AM
It's useful but has fugly syntax.
 
10:23 AM
Why is the crappy answer the most upvoted?
 
Not any more!
 
@Xeo if you want more nasties for your answer, I recently had to change asserts to SFINAE in a situation like this one liveworkspace.org/code/b0c5fa253ef5acb3402a97ca39fb6044
 
Is LWS created by one of us?
 
Not that I know of.
 
Xeo
@R.MartinhoFernandes ew
But shouldn't that assert trigger?
Ah, wait
No, it should, unless double is 4 bytes
 
10:37 AM
static_assert(sizeof(double) != 4, "sanity check");
 
Xeo
Okay, why doesn't that assert fire?
 
I wish there were sanity_assert("did the idiot use #defines instead of consts") and so on
 
@Xeo Dunno. I don't know all the kinks of template instantiation.
I'll test in clang to shake off the possibility of bugs.
 
@Xeo cmon, you can put that code in your answer
 
Arrgh, pageant, Y U NO SHOW PASSWORD AS I RITE?
 
10:41 AM
And comment on it, it's not like LWS is going to hang on to it
 
Xeo
@ecatmur Hm, true
 
@Xeo Same behaviour in clang.
 
Xeo
unevaluated contexts seem to be the answer
 
It was nasty because my traits were all returning true everywhere.
 
10:44 AM
@R.MartinhoFernandes Is my answer any good?
I'm not very experienced with SFINAE.
 
Xeo
So, GCC 4.7 doesn't support your improved EnableIf?
 
Xeo
> source.cpp: At global scope:
> source.cpp:21:6: error: no type named 'type' in 'struct std::enable_if<false, int>'
 
@Xeo you get more fireworks if the overloaded thingy is an operator<< :)
 
Xeo
Did I do something wrong?
@R.MartinhoFernandes Yeah, but I somehow didn't want to use that
 
10:48 AM
> error: no matching function for call to 'f(main()::X)'
 
@Xeo Sounds like a case of "confused by earlier errors, not bailing out".
 
The rest explains why the existing f was not chosen.
GCC explains why a candidate was SFINAE'd out.
 
Ah, right, that's it.
 
Ye of little trust.
GCC still got it.
 
but the last "error" should have "note" as well
 
Xeo
10:51 AM
> source.cpp:21:6: note: template<class T> void f(T&&, EnableIf<sfinae_false<T> >)
> source.cpp:21:6: note: template argument deduction/substitution failed:
 
otherwise it'd be a separate error
 
Xeo
Is what I get when I rewrite to old-style SFINAE
So the other one is definitly is not an explanation
 
I haven't switched styles yet, I have some TUs that segfault when I do.
 
Xeo
Doesn't it depend in part whether you want the compiler error message to be "T must be floating point" (static_assert) vs "Foo<int>? Never heard of it, mate" (SFINAE)? — Steve Jessop 19 mins ago
I'm actually not sure anymore if it really will "SFINAE" out for class types
 
@Xeo It is. But... it's different. Probably because it fails on a different internal step of the translation.
 
Xeo
10:52 AM
Atleast GCC 4.7 makes a hard error with "no type named ... found in ..."
And I can't test with Clang here
 
@Xeo Maybe only in partial specialisations.
 
In any case when I add an additional overload that accepts the parameter there is no 'global scope error'. So I really have no idea if it should be a 'note:' or not. I'm pretty sure the 'note:' are introduced when emitted in the context of "let's explain why sfinae failed", no idea what GCC is supposed to say for the subsequent, quoted errors.
 
Does it print the last "error" line with -Wfatal-errors?
 
I'm using that LWS. No dev environment here.
 
@StackedCrooked Did you edit it?
 
10:57 AM
@LucDanton ok, you're right about that. It's still a useless error in solving the problem though IMHO.
 
@rubenvb What problem?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Removed something.
It also said that SFINAE can be used to split off a different implementation for floating point types.
But I thought that was obvious so I removed it.
 
Well, I agree with it, for some meaning of "enforce".
But I'm not entirely happy about the choices C++ gives us for some of these cases.
 
Another way to look at SFINAE and static_assert is not so much as tools to prevent the misuse of templates, but as tools to improve diagnostics for some of those misuses.
It's a somewhat gloomy outlook I suppose.
 
I don't like what happens with qux there, for example.
 
Xeo
11:05 AM
Yay, home time
 
Some of the answers mention overloading, but doesn't that only apply when enable_if is used on function arguments?
 
I want the diagnostic when I write qux<double> q;, but I want can_frob<qux<double>>::value to be false, not a compilation error.
 
@StackedCrooked It doesn't have to be enable_if and it doesn't have to be in the function arguments.
 
This is one reason I haven't yet posted an answer. I don't know an answer.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes I don't think the example is well-chosen (the way that assertion is made qux<double> is an invalid instantiation regardless of frobs), but I know what you mean.
 
11:09 AM
The problem is, if a static assertion is triggered during substitution, it is triggered. There's no SAFDSINAE (static assertion failure during substitution INAE).
 
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Q: Sorting string vectors: plain C vs idiomatic C++11

user1602982I am currently trying to learn C++11 and its fancy features. To be specific I am searching for high efficiency genericity. So I happily wrote a program in C++11 to sort lines of an input file to test my fresh skills. Because of inlining and nice features of C++ compilers I expected high performan...

needs some C++ love
 
In a way, static assertions break SFINAE.
 
@LucDanton The term overloading always means function overloading, right? The OP doesn't have functions in his question.
 
@StackedCrooked You can't overload anything else, yes.
I mentioned template<typename T> void foo(T, Foo<T> = {}); as an example of code that uses the OP's Foo and may exhibit SFINAE. (Completely untested however.)
But it's not idiomatic to push the SFINAE code to class templates instead of function templates, no.
 
@rubenvb Just got upvoted randomly for this question:
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A: conditional debug output class with templated operator<<

DeadMGYour nullstream class has no integral constructor. This means that when you #define Debug nullstream, the compiler can't recognize Debug(0) - that makes no sense. Debug is not a macro that takes arguments, and if you substitute with nullstream, nullstream has no constructor that takes arguments. ...

 
11:24 AM
I get randomly upvoted all the time. Sometimes 50pts on a single day. And often on very localized questions, too.
I always wonder who reads those answers
 
I can not have any activity and I still get upvotes every day.
 
I occasionally get a random upvote for this silly question.
 
12:05 PM
Oh wow. I didn't know the synch might explain most C vs C++ I/O perf problems:
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A: Sorting string vectors: plain C vs idiomatic C++11

mirtThe cause is in c++ std io synchronization. The following code: int main () { typedef std::vector<std::string> svec; svec a; std::string s; // note std::cin.sync_with_stdio(false); std::cout.sync_with_stdio(false); for (;;) { getline(std::cin, s); if (...

@DeadMG I still use (a slightly modified version of) that.
 
lol
 
@sehe google searches often end up on SO. If your problem is already solved, and you're on this site, you (well, I at least) upvote.
 
@rubenvb Yeah, sometimes it is hard to see how a localized answer could possibly answer someone else's question in that way, though.
I guess, it would have to be SO-seasoned users that decide the the answer deserved more merit for helping the OP, maybe :)
 
@sehe chances are the localized problem is a lot more general than you first thought ;-)
 
@rubenvb Yeah. Well, I might some day find time to find examples of such spurious upvotes, but meanwhile I'm too busy and not motivated to do so :)
 
sbi
12:10 PM
I rarely ever answer nowadays, and I still get daily upvotes. I guess it might be 30-40rep per day on average.
 
@sbi Woot. I basically don't answer any questions unless it is a (palatable) Boost Spirit question... I don't get that many anymore
That has been better for me a little while back:
Apr 19 at 8:33, by sehe
I have posted 10 answers (no high ranked stuff, avg. 1.8 upvotes) and received 616 in reputation during that same period (since april 5th). That's roughly 300 per week, of which approx. 70% is residuals.
I guess, answering 10 questions in 2 weeks might somehow pay off, indirectly
 
sbi
@sehe But you have ~2.5k answers, and I have 1.5k!?
 
@sbi Yeah yeah. Rub it in. I never had any 'popular' or 'high-ranked' answers :)
 
sbi
@sehe Ah, yes, I get a lot of rep for the operator overloading FAQ.
 
That, and I tend(ed) to delve into niches, or pick random (localized) questions just for fun
 
12:29 PM
I get like 10 residual rep per week, /flex
 
I got 69k places up in this month's ladder
Can't you use any library for that?
 
Xeo
1 message moved to bin
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: const std::string morning = "I just got up"; [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq]
hmmm
It's not showing my tag :(
 
12:46 PM
what tag
 
sbi
> The picture from the Mars rover they don't want you to see: pic.twitter.com/ohhj17q6Chris Burns
Sorry, but that tag got in the way.
 
Xeo
lol
room topic changed to Lounge<C++>: const std::string morning = "I just got up"; [c++] [c++11] [c++-faq] [not-your-helpdesk]
well, that worked at least
 
sbi
> I'm going to open an Atheist restaurant that is only open on Sundays between 9 and noon. Let there be BACON!!! — Chris Burns
For them bacon lovers here.
 
ohai
I'm a bacon lover!
 
1:02 PM
@TonyTheLion <3
 
:)
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LOL
 
Xeo
Crap, I'm really really bored right now and have no idea how to relief myself of that boredom
 
Terrible flash games.
 
Anyone here (or any regulars, besides me) ever play around with (non)linear solver or optimizers?
 
@Xeo There's Leauge of Legends tournament in Cologna, Germany right now.
 
Xeo
1:17 PM
There's also the Gamescom in Cologne, Germany right now :)
And I'm not even remotely interested in LoL, sorry
 
Ah, too bad. Altough I came to a conclusion that I like my SO rep better than my ELO rating
 
Heh, they invented a solid-state maser: bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-19281566 . "The resulting intense microwave beams could be used in applications ranging from medical diagnostics to astronomy." Hmm, what else can intense microwave beams do?
 
@Potatoswatter Cook your dinner.
 
LoL is a terrible DotA knockoff imo. And DotA is the best game ever... as a very trollish LAN party game, and very little else
 
@BartekBanachewicz Or cook you.
 
Xeo
1:21 PM
@Potatoswatter I love those in books
 
I guess that would be a "medical diagnostic."
 
@SamDeHaan LoL is totally different from DoTA. I mean, basic principle is the same, but still it's the same for Fiat Multipla and porsche
 
omg! MSVC2012 will support WinXP target
 
Xeo
@Potatoswatter "medical diagnostic: dead"?
 
@BartekBanachewicz Totally different from DotA? ...no? It's a clone. While heroes may be different, game mechanics are otherwise ~identical
 
1:24 PM
@Abyx Just because MS doesn't support a platform any more, doesn't mean they should deny the ability of others to support it.
@Xeo "tasty"
 
Xeo
I don't know
From what I've read, little else besides a few stains of smut remain of you
 
@SamDeHaan As I said. The two cars can have 4 wheels and an engine - the mechanics are identical. However, the more powerful engine and the better interior can make two cars completely different. While heroes may be different, the whole gameplay will change. The games will look different. The teamplay will be different.
If you dislike the form, though, I won't convince you to like it anyway. Just don't say these two are identical
 
@BartekBanachewicz This isn't slashdot, a car analogy isn't a magical win. yes, people may play it differently. The game is the same.
 
@Xeo "Set your phasers to medium-rare"
 
Xeo
heh
 
1:27 PM
@SamDeHaan Depends what "the same" means to you.
 
See, Slashdot is like a Greyhound bus, and SO chat is more like car-pooling to the bar after work.
 
More car analogies, doh.
 
lulz²
 
MOBAs are terrible games with terrible communities and what the hell are you even arguing for.
 
@CatPlusPlus Because arguing on the internet is my purpose in life.
 
1:37 PM
Oh, hell, now tell me more how other games are better. FFS, it's a matter of personal taste
 
plonk*
 
@BartekBanachewicz Zomg, MMORPG > TD > MOBA >= FPS > RTS > ARPG > TBS > CNN > TCM > ...
 
@SamDeHaan I ain't gonna get trolled by that.
 
Turner Classic Movies? And CNN is better?
 
@Potatoswatter Oh, that's true, I did mix those two up.
@BartekBanachewicz Maaaan.
 
1:45 PM
@SamDeHaan sup?
 
The heck's a MOBA?
 
@BartekBanachewicz But it's more fun when you get trolled by that/pretend to get trolled by that.
 
I don't even care about mechanics. Communities surrounding those games are on Tibia level.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Massive Online Battle Arena.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Clusterfuck of "what the hell is going on"
 
1:45 PM
Oh, DOTA and shit?
 
Yep.
 
Now F you. I know community sucks, but still... bunch of haters
 
I can't stand that crap. My brother can't stop playing it.
 
It's multiplayer game. If community sucks, there's no reason to touch it.
 
1:46 PM
@CatPlusPlus If you play with your team, you don't talk to the others
And LoL is so TEAM oriented, that playing it alone would be crappy even with good community
 
@CatPlusPlus I just enjoy playing DotA with friends at LAN parties. Other than that, MOBAs definitely foster terrible communities.
 
> 08-16 15:46:53.808: W/Bundle(4012): Key access_token expected byte[] but value was a java.lang.String. The default value <null> was returned.
What.
 
@CatPlusPlus Lovely. "Ooops, shit happened and the type system was bypassed/ineffective at being useful. Let's not tell anyone and plant a timebomb that will turn into NPE later. Mwhahahahaha".
 
@BartekBanachewicz I haven't even started hating yet
 
It's not even NPE, it just silently fails to do what it's told to do.
Because the request is suddenly not authorized.
Gaaaaaaaaawd.
 
1:51 PM
@CatPlusPlus Returning null is seeding an NPE.
You're just lucky it didn't strike yet.
 
I'd rather have NPE than silent auth dropping.
 
malloc() will not invoke the constructor for a class: use new[]. — hmjd 20 mins ago
 
@BartekBanachewicz And if your team is full of condescending douchebags?
 
@CatPlusPlus I mean premade team. Like IRL friends all on teamspeak
 
In my ideal world, when people suggest superior alternatives, they go straight for the superiorest, and don't settle for slightly less crappy ones.
 
1:55 PM
Well, that I can understand.
I still wouldn't like to be attached to the community, though.
 
@CatPlusPlus On high level it gets pretty OK. In ESL matches, for example.
 
Upvote me for great justice!
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A: C++: Deleting a pointer of vectors

R. Martinho FernandesTo destroy dynamically allocated arrays you must use delete[], not delete. While that will make the code work, it is a suboptimal solution. The following program does the same thing, but is much more succint, and safer. #include <vector> int main () { std::vector<std::vector<int&...

 
in JavaScript, 5 mins ago, by Zirak
@Loktar fuck the kids.
?!
 
It's a joke.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes too bad I was the one that said new there is fucked up, and I got downvoted for that
 
2:08 PM
@BartekBanachewicz Yeah, I saw that.
 
Open Graph, why do you hate me.
 
It's reciprocal.
 
Ah, dammit, needs additional permissions.
 
Do you beliieeeeeve in magiiiic
 
Planetary Annihilation looks awesome.
 
2:17 PM
Every time there are news about an indie RTS, I always fear that they end up with ideas similar to mine.
 
Ahahaha, it's working.
IT'S WORKING.
 
I don't care about AAA RTSs, because my ideas are too risky for a "real" developer to implement. But indie devs? Gotta get careful, man.
 
Why don't you just write that game with your ideas?
 
I mean, "(...) but now you can zoom out into space, build a fort on an asteroid, and then crash it into an enemy planet. So basically, total insanity." Where do I put my monies?
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes seems nice
 
2:19 PM
Windows 8 has done away with the "Start" button. It seems we are now back to the start window, similar to what Windows 3.11 had. Ughh.
 
@BartekBanachewicz Oh, sure, because writing a full fledged multiplayer RTS with persistence and full unit customization is easy to do without a team.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Using Lua counts as +3 programmers
 
@Chimera just look at GNOME3/unity. They pre-copied Windows in that regard.
 
@BartekBanachewicz In my case, using Lua counts as shooting myself in the throat.
 
@rubenvb Yeah I don't like it. I turn on Gnome legacy.
 
2:21 PM
@EtiennedeMartel Why's that?
 
@BartekBanachewicz I don't like Lua.
 
If only we had an ongoing RTS project.
 
@CatPlusPlus We can always have one
 
@Chimera Can't blame you. You can reenable the start menu though. A single regedit and it's back to 7-style. Why anyone would want to upgrade to 8 on a non-tablet, I don't know.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Any particular reason
 
2:22 PM
@CatPlusPlus Yeah. But Kyro isn't exactly the same thing.
Speaking of Kyro, where's @Dom?
 
So far Kyro is a platform for proving exponentially decaying attention span of Loungers.
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@rubenvb Oh that's good to know! But yeah, I don't see any real reason to upgrade from Win7 to Win8.
 
@CatPlusPlus I guess it's a success then.
 
Windows 7 is still great IMHO.
No amount of Windows Marketplace apps is going to change that.
 
@rubenvb I haven't had a Blue Screen of Death in years with Windows. They've gotten much better.
I suspect it's largely due to better drivers though.
 
2:24 PM
@CatPlusPlus Has there been any progress lately?
 
Ugh. Professor recommends NetBeans for Java development.
 
I did some things a month ago.
 
@Chimera Yeah, last one I had was due to NVIDIA (and probably an overheating of a Geforce 8400, remember the faulty NVIDIA GPUs not so long ago?)
 
@CatPlusPlus lol
 
@Drise netbeans, text editor, or eclipse. What's the difference?
 
2:26 PM
And pushed some changes I wanted to push then a week ago or so.
 
@rubenvb Meh. Java.
 
You guys suck.
 
@rubenvb I haven't had a new video card in over two years. Wasn't aware NVIDIA had a bad batch of chips... That's really bad, I consider NVidia to be superior to ATI.
 
I'm probably not going to get anything done today at work. Focusing on not showing emotions is probably going to distract and drain me.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Like a vaccum!
 
2:27 PM
Then get some sick leave.
 
@Drise Intro to Java class at my college was forced BlueJ. I don't recommend even looking at it for too long.
 
@Drise Pro tip: get wasted.
 
@Chimera ATI is better bang for buck, and Last I heard, they had the best card on the market.
 
@Drise What's going on man? Having a hard time?
 
2:28 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes at work?
 
stops channelling Etienne
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes lol
 
If you're completely unproductive, you might as well not be at work.
Get free time and get wasted.
 
@Drise That may be. As I said, I haven't bought I new video card in a few years.
 
when will dreamspark have VS2012?
I want to try it out
just for laughs
 
2:28 PM
@rubenvb September 12.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes is that a return 42; kind of September 12th?
 
blank stare
 
yesterday, by R. Martinho Fernandes
How can "it sucks" be an objective fact unless referring to vaccum cleaners?
I like that that's still holding onto the starboard 2 days later.
 
It's the real date.
 
2:31 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I'll take a robot's word for that then :)
 
@Drise Oh shit man, I'm real sorry to hear about that. That's a tough thing to go through.
@Drise Weren't you engaged?
 
@Chimera Tell me about it. 2 years and upwards of 3 grand shot.
 
CATCH Y U NO FIXTURES ?!
 
@Abyx What's a fixture?
 
@Drise So sorry man..
 
2:33 PM
@Chimera about a year and a half now.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes [TestClass]
 
On Falling Over -- worth the read
 
=\ it seems I forgot the fuckdown syntax
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@Chimera According to wolfram, 2 years, 3 months, 20 days, 16 hours.
 
@Drise I was with my high school sweetheart for about three years before she cheated on me with a good friend of mine. My best tip: If she changes her mind and wants to get back together, take a good long think about it before you say anything. I didn't, and wasted another year before she decided she wanted to be back with the guy she cheated on me with.
 
2:36 PM
@Abyx Don't worry, I got the right URL. I see now.
 
@SamDeHaan I have had my heart broken enough to know that the pieces never fit right again afterwards.
 
anyway, every unit test framework (aka UTF) has fixtures, every but CATCH =(
 
well, that story has certainly warned me off balance boards....
 
Personally, I like my tests verbose, but I can see why one would want that.
@rubenvb I might take the time to review your Ambrosia code tonight. Mind dropping me a link? :)
 
2:40 PM
such verbosity smells like a DRY violation
 
Do Repeat Yourself!
;)
 
What's wrong with verbosity? Java is incredibly verbose, and it's the best language in the world.
 
I sense sarcasm.
 
@sehe Well, that's a little terrifying. Noted, no balance boards. I'll just stick to safe things like rock climbing and adventure rac-- waaaait a minute. Crap.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes github.com/rubenvb/ambrosia (the generator code is incomplete though). You'll need Qt's qmake if you want to see it in action, and running a debug build with "ambrosia.exe ../../source/ambrosia -debug=all" will show you pretty much everything it does little step by little step. Thanks!
 
2:43 PM
@EtiennedeMartel yea.
 
hmm, I hope it builds currently, been a long time since I touched it
 
@StackedCrooked You're good.
 
@Drise :-(
 
But what the hell? @R.MartinhoFernandes says something only remotely funny, and people shower stars on him, and I go in full sarcasm mode about Java, and I don't even get a single star. Blatant racism.
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes OK, Ambrosia git master builds as it should :)
 
2:50 PM
@sehe Great story! My friend who was paralyzed from the armpits down a few months ago from a hang gliding accident can probably empathize with it.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Racism against Canadians isn't racism.
 
@rubenvb This is a family channel! :-)
 
@Chimera yeah I remember when you told us on chat
 
@rubenvb oh, you.
 
@sehe Yeah, just an update. Appears his paralysis isn't going away.
 
2:52 PM
@SamDeHaan terrifying indeed. It required conscious effort to relax my muscles after reading that story
 
@sehe And it happened in such a "casual" manner. That's the scary part. It truly can happen to any of us.
 
@Chimera That's really tough. And probably kind of unfair. Really the stuff that the "Why me" - rage reaction is appropriate for... How is he coping?
 
@Chimera Biggest problem: I have a photographic memory. And audiographic. So I can remember practically everything of significance with clarity. And no matter how hard I've tried with things in the past, it's nearly impossible to forget.
 
@EtiennedeMartel It's carbonism.
 
@EtiennedeMartel Is it racism if choosing robots > canadians?
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2:53 PM
@Chimera Yup. Life is short but we opt not to see it most of the time
 
@sehe From what I've gathered he is coping very well with a positive attitude. He's doing as well as can be expected physically.
@Drise Ugghh... That kind of gift is a double-edged sword.
 
@Chimera That's really good for him. I'm impressed by people who can adapt to such lifeturning changes.
 
@Chimera Tell me about it. And when your someone like myself who has a lot to forget, it's even worse.
 
I like to think I would, but I've hardly been tested
 
@sehe He's a strong person. He will adapt nicely I'm sure. It's just another reminder how tenuous things are in life.
@Drise I feel for you man. :-(
 
2:57 PM
Police attempt to lure #Assange from Ecuadorian Embassy by leaving bag of top secret documents in a bin outside.
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lol
 
@Drise You need to learn to not give a fuck.
 
should have left a sleeping woman outside instead
 
how does this Wiki example explain how a weak symbol can be overridden? Wouldn't it work just the same way without the extra attribute?
 
@Chimera I think probably the worst of it is that after being with someone for such an extended period of time along with living with the person is that everything you own has memories tied to it. Happy memories, sad overall story.
 
@rubenvb Thanks. I'll report tomorrow. Maybe.
 
2:59 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes I have. Trust me.
 
@Drise Ugghh...
 

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