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12:03 AM
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Q: Got Access Took Away from Android Chat

Chris OkyenI no longer have access to chat in Android and The reason was fairly stated as such @ChrisOkyen For the record, you no longer have permission to talk in here for 1) swearing far more than is good for the room (despite repeated requests to tone it down), 2) posting rap lyrics that are generally u...

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what that has to do with programming? lol
you are just going to loose rep.
 
I would have booted him just for bad grammar. You all are much more patient than I.
 
lol bad grammar.
 
The Last two comments were defiantly targeted at me
merlin defies!
@nil defies!
I had to, sorry, couldn't help myself.
 
lol
 
user457812
Actually, his quote from Merlin about the comment had to do with me commenting on a question someone made.
 
12:13 AM
I'm trying to find it
 
user457812
I think that question might've been deleted since it's no longer in my comment history.
 
Yeah, had nothing to do with him. I also don't remember being an ass to him outside of just ignoring his account altogether.
 
in any other community... that would be the roasted post of the decade.
 
Anyway, there are plenty of other Android chat rooms, I don't understand why people feel it's their right to access any of them.
 
aww he removed it
 
12:16 AM
yeap.
It only got to -6 down votes.
 
yesterday, by kcoppock
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Q: replace between bla and next foo

LorenzI need to replace part of a large string. More exact between bla and the next occurrence of foo. Bla is unique and will only ever occur once in a string. Foo however isn't unique. I am currently splitting the strings and replacing using some patchwork. (Not shown here in fear of being laughed a...

 
Doctors rooms are eerily quiet. I should start playing Friday or Nyan Cat very loudly to get attention.
 
that was the question
 
Ah yeah I remember that now.
 
user457812
Yep, gone. There goes my comment-monsters comment.
 
12:19 AM
It lives on in our hearts.
 
It's a real shame ... I like that comment :(
worse yet ... it's absence has resulted in a conspiracy theory
 
user457812
It contributed nothing important to the question, so it doesn't really matter.
 
user457812
Well, it's not the first time this room has been the center of a conspiracy theory.
 
user457812
Now back to trying to update my build system to tup for fun
 
"The Mystery of Room 15"
has a nice ring
Really wish SO chat had a write API, I'd love to write an Android app for it
 
12:22 AM
*opens the javascript console
I'll find you an api!
 
user457812
I wonder why Qwerty likes my left shoulder so much
 
likes or hates?
my left shoulder is always sore
 
Neb to the Rescue!
 
user457812
I have no idea which room I'm supposed to answer Chris in because he keeps changing rooms.
 
user457812
So he just ends up inviting me to ones for Merlin and whatnot.
 
12:23 AM
ANSWER ALL THE CHATS
 
user457812
@nebulae Well, he really likes sitting on the left shoulder, so I assume he likes that side
 
user457812
And that's despite the fact that if he were on the right shoulder, he'd be closer to crackers.
 
I totally took that literally
 
user457812
Qwerty is my parrot.
 
it would appear that posting to chat may be possible,
 
user457812
12:25 AM
One of them, anyway
 
I'm just ignoring it ... there's nothing left to say. There comes a point where everybody has to stop grating the parmesan and get on with spilling spaghetti sauce everywhere
 
user457812
He can take it to meta if he wants further discussion.
 
why do people obfuscate their js anyway? makes it so hard to read
o.O
 
It was democratic ... nobody acted hastily or without counsel ... subject is slosed
apparently "slosed" is my new word for today
 
hahahaha
 
12:28 AM
Wow, chat breaks up horribly when zoomed on Android on the full site.
@neb if you find anything useful on it let me know, it'd be a cool project.
there's already a read API I believe, so if there's a hack to posting as well, at least only that Part would have to be hackish
 
user457812
I explained it. Ignore all further communications from Chris for about a week, I'd say, unless he takes it to Meta, in which case someone can obviously go explain the exact same things again.
 
Sounds good
 
a read api for chat?
 
Yeah I think I remember seeing one somewhere goes to look
 
probably on stackapps
 
12:39 AM
 
yeah that's just the regular API ... there isn't one for chat
 
Ah I see. Damn, misread then.
 
you'd have to reverse engineer the ajax calls and stuff
 
although you may be able to reuse the login part of that API
 
12:41 AM
still, not for chat, i dont think
if you can auth tho, you can post to chat.stackoverflow.com/chats/15/messages/new
with the text: some text and the fkey: your user id i believe
 
Interesting.
 
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Q: Provide a streaming chat API

TheLQAs people try and make IRC and XMPP bindings for chat, they all seem to be using the same inefficient and undocumented AJAX based system to communicate to the chat server by simply reverse engineering chat with Firebug. All current implementations are messy, unreliable, and incomplete. And new pe...

 
From the posts on meta, it doesn't sound like there are any plans for an official API, so that's probably about the best shot.
Like that one, lol
 
that was the latest one I could find
 
the updates however, are done via sockets, in this browser anyway
I could open it in an old ie and get the polling address tho
but that would be work
 
12:46 AM
I suspect that whoever wrote the chat system has either fallen asleep behind a nice warm server andn nobody knows where the source is
 
:)
 
So it'd still be a polling based update system rather than push, which would kina suck
 
... or invented a time machine an gone back to the future
 
unless I could set up a server to poll and send out push updates
@Merlin. Haha probably
 
you could use fiddler2
then just sit and watch the http traffic
 
12:47 AM
What's that?
Oh packet sniffer?
 
not really ... it's an http messaging debug tool
 
also true...
 
I had to use it in anger when I was doing my app ... very handy and possibly saved me a large bald spot from constant hair-tearing
 
Cool
Haha nice.
 
You can use it to inject raw http messages too
 
12:59 AM
sigh I should have brought my laptop, I'm not going to get anything accomplished tonight apparently.
 
what are you supposed to be accomplishing?
 
Signing up for Fall classes, editing photos from a trip, updating Holoku, probably other things I've forgotten about.
 
user457812
I'm still undecided on my classes for the Fall
 
user457812
I have five, will probably drop one, I desperately need to get into a senior seminar for Spring too..
 
So I'm not the only procrastinator high five
What are you signed up for?
 
user457812
1:02 AM
'Cause after this semester, this only thing I'm actually required to take is the senior seminar. I could take all 100-level courses alongside it and that'd be peachy.
 
I'm out!
have a good weekend you guys :)
 
Later @neb! You as well!
Oh and apparently I'm also supposed to start playing EVE. waits for @Pyro to appear
 
have fun @neb
@kcoppock I'm still battling to get it to run on Ubuntu
 
No luck with Wine?
 
it's hard going
 
1:11 AM
You should just dual boot Win7 :O
 
don't have windows ... refuse to buy it ... definitely refuse to install it
 
Fair enough, can't blame you if you're happy with ubuntu
 
I should have installed it on a VM
although not sure what the performance would be like
 
Yeah I don't know. I probably have a spare Vista license somewhere you could use
Horror of horrors
 
Think I'll be swerving vista forever
I have a windows 8 vm but it's as bad
 
1:21 AM
falls asleep
 
well I officially give up on EVE onWine
 
/sad
You've probably seen this but if not maybe that will help?
 
1:40 AM
the problem is likely dues to me being on a pure 64bit system ... I've kinda done this arse about face
2
A: How to force Wine into acting like 32-bit Windows on 64-bit Ubuntu?

hsivonenIt turns out that to make Wine run in 32-bit-only mode, one needs to: Remove ~/.wine if it was already created in the 64-bit mode. Set the WINEARCH environment variable to win32 i.e. export WINEARCH=win32 Then run wine (or winetricks, etc.)

unfirtunately it's another 5GB download
 
Ugh. @.@
 
2:04 AM
what is the point in seeing "vote counts"?
nvm.
 
2:51 AM
The worst part of registering for classes is finding scheduled times that don't outrageously conflict with an 8-5 job. :/ Gets more and more difficult each year as the course numbers get higher.
 
i should go to school one of these days
particle physics... that is where it is at
 
It's good and bad. I like learning, but I think the most stressful part is just the damn paperwork. @.@
Ooooh, you have fun with that.
I love reading about that sort of thing, but I think studying it would blow my mind.
 
step 1) get a career.
step 2) goto school for something other than you career.
step 3) never profit but love what you do and what you learn.
step 4) die a happy life.
step 5) ????
 
:P
 
step 6) profit!
 
2:54 AM
I'm actually on step 2, haha. Already have a good job, but completely unrelated to my major.
I should have finished my degree before getting a full time job -- it set me back a long time.
 
i have no post secondary education and have been in and out of software engineering and design since i was 12
i was working for a major lms builder while in highschool. I saw no need to get a degree
 
That's awesome. Realistically I don't think a degree is necessary, myself. I've just put so much into it already I'm kind of at the point of no return.
 
now i'm regretting it a little.... but only because I see so much cool shit coming out of the local university. but not related to my fields.
 
I see the value in the learning BEHIND getting a degree, but there's a lot that is not entirely necessary.
 
no, i was self taught. however, I would be getting paid a bit more if I had one.
 
2:56 AM
Yeah, that's always the kicker.
 
companies tend to like them (government tax breaks in ontario)
 
Which I don't really understand. Do you suddenly become better at your job when you get your diploma?
(rhetorical)
Not discouraging college education, but yeah, I think pay should be based on your performance, not your degree.
There are a lot of stupid people with degrees, and a lot of smart people without.
 
40K and 4 years or 2 years, a bunch of restless nights, countless redbulls, $500 in books, and a passion...
 
Coffee > Red Bull
 
realistically i started when I was 8, and loved it. then progressed very quickly... then plateaued... then levelled out with the rest of my field.
now i'm making a respectable earning in a very promising company doing something i'm very happy doing.
s/respectable/i'm happy with.
 
3:01 AM
Well that's good!
What do you do?
 
@kcoppock and yes, however i was making a point :P
embedded systems designer is my title. however I do a lot more than that.
only coder and IT at my work.
and I have a background in engineering.
 
Ha, nice. So you're the "computer genius" of your office?
I really like what I do, I just don't necessarily like who I do it for. ;)
 
thats what i have them thinking, i'm no jon skeet.
 
It's surprisingly easy to impress non-techy people with computer stuff.
 
well, they are all hardware guys. and when i say hardware I mean like real hardware. pcb design.
dryermaster.com don't mind the website, i've been there for a year and a half, i just convinced them to let me redo it.
 
3:04 AM
Hey, it's better than most company sites.
twitch DOUBLE SPACES AFTER PERIODS
 
until you look at the source code... I scolded the owner for letting this happen
 
(pet peeve)
 
however, they design and build most of the hardware, these guys are quite smart.
 
user457812
Alright, tup now builds snow-palm
 
atm there is like a million lines of code that go into the entire system, they run on a very old OS. my job is to upgrade them for the future
 
user457812
3:07 AM
And it builds it a hell of a lot faster than my Makefile setup did
 
Computer hardware design is cool stuff.
 
user457812
@kcoppock Double spaces after periods is the correct way to do things.
 
I will disagree till the end of time, but okay. :D
 
it's a slightly older way about it.
 
It made sense for typewriters.
With computer typesetting, extra spacing is accounted for already by the font.
 
Nice!
 
I have a passion for js. I make a lot of useless crap with it
rlemon, Ontario
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some more of my apps in my profile. specifically userscripts and chrome extension for SE sites
now with chrome webstore shit i'll need to learn how to submit them there
 
Gah, yeah I was just getting that error.
Dammit, I hate when software tries to overprotect the user.
Like the Android Gmail app and not allowing you to open ZIP attachments.
 
Pro Tip: if you goto chrome://extensions and drag and drop the userscript to the page it will install it.
dont' get me started on gmail....
they open zips on the server, check for exe's and stop delivery if they are in them..
 
Nifty, that worked. Now to star some unicorns.
Wow, seriously?
 
3:17 AM
Chat Easy input tolls are handy.
@kcoppock lol What???
 
I understand the risks for EXEs, but seriously, this is Android. The hacker OS. Give me the damn option.
The "Wow Seriously" was referring to the EXE checking comment
 
ohh
i thought you were like "wow, seriously?" to the unicorns
 
Oh haha
I do approve of the unicorns.
 
yep they stop exe's
I think renaming to txt works
 
.!..__O__..!. you, google.
 
3:20 AM
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Win.
 
I should try .a, .so and .dmg to see if Gmail is racist.
 
Haha
 
seriously.. rlemon.github.com/lememe is great fun. drag and drop makes it extra fun.
see.. good times
 
Bookmarked, seems useful
 
3:24 AM
I have already started development on the next version... this one was fun to make. the next one will be much better with more features (small ads, and a real domain) - but just stay tuned.
also, that site will remain so long as github remains... so no worries there
I don't like being tied to imgur.. seems like i'm cheating.
 
lol
 
I need futuristic looking glasses
 
5
Q: Stack Search Chrome Extension

rlemon Stack Search A Google Chrome Context Menu Extension Screenshot About This is a simple context menu extension that adds an option for selected text on a page to be searched on your favourite Stack Exchange sites. The extension has two main components, the context menu list and the '...

also useful
14 mins ago, by rlemon
Pro Tip: if you goto chrome://extensions and drag and drop the userscript to the page it will install it.
 
Nice.
 
works for extensions too
 
user457812
3:49 AM
And the serial downvoting was reversed.
 
user457812
Go me.
 
user457812
It'd be neat to know how they determine what counts as serial downvoting (though would also make it easier to circumvent)
 
I got downvoted last night for no apparent reason >:(
 
user457812
Well, if it's the answer I'm looking at that got downvoted, it's not exactly the best answer
 
haha, Python Android GUI?
thank you Reno :) :P
 
user457812
3:55 AM
Damn it, Reno, I just submitted an edit too.
 
4:08 AM
That meme generator is crap
Completely wrong font
 
4:26 AM
morning
 
morning :D
 
lol!!! you time is over go to bed, good night :P
 
hahahahahah :)
 
user457812
Yay, I answered a question. I don't feel nearly as much like I'm useless again.
 
lol
edit and then answered like a boss. :)
 
user457812
4:40 AM
Well, it was an OpenAL question about something that's kind of not obvious to beginners, but still a beginner question.
 
user457812
So, not exactly an answer that's great.
 
user457812
Plus the asker has a low accept rate (looks mostly like it's because he doesn't get answers, though).
 
user457812
@NilayOnAndroid Rejected for poor questions and answers. You'll have to improve your stuff before you can get in here, mate.
 
some people don't know what accepting an answer means, or if it exist, or how to do it, or they just don't give a shit.
 
I only accept good answers. And quite frankly, they rarely are.
 
user457812
4:43 AM
@0gravity Yeah, I have to admit I don't really care anyway.
 
user457812
It's more that I just had an opportunity to research something (in this case, use of dispatch_after, even though the question wasn't actually requiring anything of that nature).
 
there I +1 your answer :)
 
user457812
I wouldn't do that unless you know the answer is correct.
 
I did it because is well thought. Well at least it looks like it is.
what error are you getting?
 
user457812
Also, @ravuya gets write access.
 
user457812
4:51 AM
@Kurty You just pasted a block of code into this room. BIN'd.
 
lol
 
user457812
1 message moved to bin
 
@nil lol ok :P srry
@Ogravity I don't get any error, it just doesn't work the way I wanted it to and I don't know why...
 
wao I need to request access to talk on the bin room lol .
@Kurty do you want to drag a view...is that what your code should do?
 
@Ogravity I have set each case for each layout, and I want to see what is being dropped into the layout. So for the blue layout, if I drop the blue view, it will do whatever, else whatever.
 
user457812
5:00 AM
Don't even know why I'm bothering to edit questions that even the author can't be bothered to put effort into.
 
user457812
5:11 AM
0
Q: Did any one done Paypal Mobile Express Checkout Flow integration in Android?

Nagaraj436I don't find any examples regarding Paypal Mobile express checkout flow integration in Android. Only Sample I found is the MECL Pizza which is using Web Express Checkout Flow. However I succeeded in doing Mobile Express Checkout flow but facing with a particular problem which seems to be strange....

 
user457812
Holy crap my eyeballs
 
shit.
WTF. lol it takes a lot of focus and concentration to read all that.
@Kurty sorry I don't know what might be the problem.
what is he even asking. hahahah
I like how people ask a question and then they just fucking vanish...then when they come back they wonder why they have down votes.
 
@Ogravity lol it's fine. I kinda know what to do, I just don't know how to it..
yea that happens a lot with a lot of newcomers..
 
user457812
What, you mean they aren't glued to the screen waiting for an answer instead of maybe trying to solve their own problem?
 
user457812
The thing I don't get is that you have a preview of the question as you're writing it, and you have to scroll past the preview to submit the question and add tags, so how is it that these folks overlook how horrible their questions are and still submit them?
 
5:26 AM
yea that too.
 
they don't read the faq?
 
user457812
I wonder what percentage of questions with {s or }s on a newline without indentation (so they're not code blocks) have improperly formatted code blocks in them.
 
lol I have seen a lot of those, but I can't edit them because with my current rep I need to edit at least 6 characters and a space does not count.
 
user457812
I usually rewrite people's questions.
 
user457812
Oh yeah, did I already reject @RameshManly? 'Cause he's rejected for low reputation and low quality questions (and no answers, so I can't overlook bad questions for good answers).
 
user457812
5:37 AM
@Karan Rejected for low quality questions, a low quality answer, and generally low reputation. Work on improving those things and then you're good to go.
 
@anyone do you see any point in viewing vote counts?
 
user457812
I usually check them to see if someone's trying really hard to avoid a negative vote.
 
what do you mean by "trying really hard to avoid a negative vote." on someone else question/answer?
nvm, going to sleep.
 
@0gravity good night ;)
 
lol
thanks.
 
6:35 AM
heyho
 
Hey
 
user457812
6:47 AM
@DeepuMandy Rejected because your questions are too low quality to get write access. You'll need to fix them up before requesting write access again.
 
Ultra cheap canalphones ozbargain.com.au/node/77112
better than the shit you get bundled with your phone.
 
user457812
Headphones bundled with phones are always terrible.
 
Indeed. But I know Brainwavz make good kit.
This is really cool. :D imgur.com/a/n4gTq
 
I got 4 sets of Coby headphones the other day.
Each set has one in ear one, and one headphone.
Really good.
 
user457812
I had a nice sennheiser set, but they broke after three days of use
 
user457812
6:55 AM
The cable was just that flimsy
 
Wait, so one ear is canal, and other is external
 
Lol no.
There is one pair of ear canal, and one headset.
 
ahh
 
I don't know anything about that brand
But anything that says "deep bass sound" concerns me :P
 
7:02 AM
They're decent.
I mean, they aren't like sennheisers, but they do the job well enough.
 
When you listen to good headphones, its hard to go back
 
Ah well. These are good enough for me.
Plus if I really need good ones I have a really nice sennheiser set.
 
I think the real question here is... why 4 sets?!? :P
 
But they get too bulky to use all the time.
Lol.
One for me, one for my brother, one for my dad and one for my mom.
I had one of these initially, but it broke during the house renovation.
 
Ahh
 
7:07 AM
And they were good, so when my uncle came from the US, he got 4.
Along with my Nexus 7 :D
 
Here's some music to test them with
:P
 
Haha. haven't opened them yet. They just came. I'll probably open them later.
However, starred for future testing :P
 
lol
It's a great song
Another of my favorites youtube.com/watch?v=7AlDQpBveQk
 
I've heard the second one.
It's good.
 
The entire Favorite Worst Nightmare album is good
 
7:12 AM
 
:D
People don't realise how much pain computer engineers go through to make these processors
I designed a basic MIPS processor at uni, and it took 3 months of solid work.
 
I know. There was a post by JBQ (Android guy) about this type of thing. Let me see if I can find it.
 
Heh, so true. Believe it or not, I have to study transistor level physics in my degree.
No idea why, it's painful enough at the gate level.
 
I dunno. I enjoy all that, so I don't think I'd mind so much.
 
Oh trust me, you'd mind. The course has an 80% fail rate.
It's very hard to do well when it's one of four courses in a semester.
 
7:22 AM
Oh. Good luck :P
 
I'm doing it during summer.
 
user457812
Oddly enough, most of the high-level English courses have absurdly high failure rates, especially linguistics.
 
user457812
Doesn't make any sense to me though, linguistics is fun and easy O_o
 
For all the linux people here:
 
user457812
Ah, I remember back when I still cared about compiling the kernel myself..
 
7:26 AM
I remember back when I programmed in assembly my own hand built CPU :P
No kernel or OS there!
 
user457812
Yeah, yeah, nobody cares
 
lol
 
user457812
Unless you're creating the next Event Horizon, it's boring
 
One day...
 
user457812
Every now and then I'm tempted to watch that again, then I realize it's better if I let the nostalgia continue rubbing imagination cocaine all over my memories
 
user457812
7:29 AM
bash.org/?950581 ← A good one.
 
XDA version:
1. That can't happen.
2. Blame user
 
user457812
Debugging, the Room 15 version:
1. I don't care anymore.
 
Debugging, Microsoft:
*crickets*
 
user457812
I wouldn't say that. I don't think I've seen a Microsoft product crash in a long time.
 
Doesn't matter, it's MS, and we have a moral obligation to belittle them whenever possible. :P
 
user457812
7:36 AM
Granted I haven't really seen a full-blown OS crash in a long time either. It's usually some small thing that fails silently and recovers.
 
user457812
I'm more inclined to blame terrible drivers for things
 
Maybe they wrapped the entire OS in a try catch block.
4
 
user457812
I'm not sure what it says about MS that I could actually see them doing that
 
git commit -m "FIXED ALL THE BUGS"
 
user457812
Hot damn, Dash got the Erlang docset added to it
 
user457812
7:38 AM
Also, it's on sale for $10 now. So, if you use a Mac, you should probably grab it.
 
8:03 AM
superwog is always good for a laugh (NSFW) youtube.com/user/superwog1
 
 
1 hour later…
9:23 AM
@Glitch that made me laugh very hard :D
 
user457812
@pengwang Rejected because your questions and answers are too low poor for me to make any sense of them
 
user457812
So, work on that and try again later.
 
user457812
@pengwang Requesting write access repeatedly will only annoy me, therefore causing you to never get write access.
 
user457812
Go improve on the things I mentioned and only then should request acess again.
 
9:42 AM
penwang was a really old member on this chat, back when this room was wild
 
user457812
That doesn't really put him above the rules, though
 
yeah yeah, I think we got tired of tell him/her not to paste code
 
user457812
After all, if I suddenly turned into one of the nyancats, I'd expect you guys to pull an ol' yeller on me.
 
user457812
I remember back when I first hopped on here and it was open.. and some guy asked for the source to my entire project.
 
user457812
It was special.
 
user457812
9:52 AM
God, the amount of people who write negative reviews of Dash on the Mac App Store because they thought it was free for eternity is.. sad, really.
 
user457812
It's an awesome tool, it's only $20 normally, and they complain about it incessantly.
 
user457812
I mean, christ, you might go without coffee for four whole days, big deal. Pay the guy who gave you something worthwhile.
 
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