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6:28 PM
speaking of, I don't suppose anyone here knows how to troubleshoot a EFI partition that the motherboard can't read the files on?
 
Maybe @braiam does but he is not pingable here anymore
 
@gunr2171 Those are just FAT32 partitions that are hidden. Under unix you can just mount it. Under Windows, you can just assign a drive letter to it (using diskpart) question on SU.
 
The problem is that the motherboard won't load the boot loader, so it doesn't get to the "linux" portion
We've be able to run a LinuxLive disk (arch linux) and mounted our drive, we can inspect the files as well. The motherboard can't see it though.
 
@gunr2171 Separate boot CD/DVD/USB flash drive? From that I assume that you're normally running linux. Sounds like it needs to be repaired perhaps BIOS boot options checked.
 
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For the moment we've got one flash drive dedicated to the boot partition. The motherboard is able to see the EFI entry in the "what do you want to boot" list
just nothing happens when you boot that. We don't know of any way to get more debugging information when that happens
 
6:38 PM
@gunr2171 Does the BIOS see the drive? For example, if you switch the BIOS to use legacy boot options?
 
as far as I know we only have an EFI boot option, no MBR or something like that. If we boot into the "Internal EFI Shell" then we can see the flash drive as a Block Device, but it doesn't let us view the file system on it.
If we use a flash drive that DOES contain a valid EFI boot option, like our Linux Live flash drive, then the EFI shell DOES contain a "fs0" item, that does let us explore the files on it
I might be able to get my friend in here to explain it better
 
Note: in order to switch to legacy boot options, you may need to disable secure boot.
 
We don't have secure boot
Friend is joining in about 5 minutes. He's the one doing the hard work of trying to get the boot loader working, so he'll be able to explain better
 
@gunr2171 OK. Ping me when he gets here. You might get some hints from this question. Without more information and/or being hands-on, it's difficult to determine the exact problem/solution.
 
Hey, I'm here
I am said friend
 
6:50 PM
hi friend
@Makyen "friend" is here
@Lindenk just go head and correct me on anything above
 
OK.
 
Yeah, that's pretty much everything. Maybe more condensed: We have an EFI entry for the ESP but the motherboard can't seem to see the underlying filesystem on that partition so it fails to boot to it
It is formatted as FAT32 and has a partition code of ef00, gpt partition table
 
I assume you've checked for available BIOS updates (just to eliminate a possible/unlikely issue).
 
Yep, we flashed the latest BIOS as part of the troubleshooting
 
Have you used efibootmgr?
 
7:01 PM
Yeah, I took a look at the entry created with the bootloader install script (bootctl on arch linux) and it looks correct. I also created an entry manually as a test, but for some reason efibootmgr seg faulted when using it for anything after I made the entry. We deleted it in the BIOS and efibootmgr seems to work again unless I manually make another entry
That kind of baffled me
Made the entry with efibootmgr that is
Actually...thinking about it. That version of efibootmgr is probably a year or two old. Idk if that's an issue though
 
Might as well see if we can get a newer/different version of that tool
or continue with our "ditch EFI and go to MBR" plan
 
@Lindenk Could be. Might want to download an up-to date liveDVD. This is sounding like a problem that's going to be difficult to diagnose/solve remotely. I might try backing up the partition, and then completely recreating it.
 
Yeah, I can update it with pacman, I just didn't bother because it was already installed
Yeah, that's a good idea
 
Ditching EFI is also a reasonable plan. Are you gaining something you desire from using it?
 
Not specifically. We needed a bootloader and EFI is usuallly pretty easy and straight forward to set up, but since it isn't working we might as well just use MBR
 
7:10 PM
the raid5 doesn't need EFI, right?
 
Nope
That's mounted after we boot anyway, so we don't need anything in the bootloader for it if that would be a problem
 
@Lindenk Unless it's something that you are specifically wanting/needing, ditching it is a reasonable thing to do. I've encountered a variety of problems using it, which usually end up being more of a pain to fix than just using MBR.
 
Yeah, I agree. This is really the first time it's gone badly for me and at this point I kind of just want it to work
 
 
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10:55 PM
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