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2:11 AM
Anyone here?
 
hi
 
Hi there
Do you have any links on how this chat is implemented?
 
same stuff as the sites, jQuery front-end, polling
umm, there may be a link on meta
i'll run a search
 
There's Marc's recent answer, not sure if that's what you were thinking of.
(I think maybe there was a better example, but I don't remember it off the top of my head)
 
yeah i saw that earlier but i thought there was an earlier one
 
2:25 AM
In house, eh?
 
yes
 
Hmm
It doesn't seem like long polling
Oh, it just repeatedly polls for events
Wouldn't that be resource hungry on their side?
 
@mives I believe that they've stated that the chat servers aren't under any sort of strain, and are relatively idle with the current traffic levels.
 
 
3 hours later…
5:05 AM
We're not against things like long-polling etc; simply, everything seems to be holding together nicely without it so far...
 
5:27 AM
Stack Overflow Chat. Awesome. Kudos.
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6:50 AM
@MarcGravell or @balpha. I imagine you
already *know about this*?
 
7:03 AM
Do we need some kind of mechanism for flagging duplicate room creation? or at least avoiding people creating rooms with exactly the same names?
 
@Benjol about what?
 
@balpha, markdown
*italics* not working on multiline
By design?
 
no markdown at all works in multiline
 
ok, that explains it then :) Please don't tell me it's in the FAQ :(
 
well, the assumption is that a multiline message is a copy/paste from somewhere arbitrary
and no, it's not in the FAQ, as isn't shift-enter -- because composing extra-long messages right here isn't something we want to explicitly encourage
the purpose of real-time chat is
one
message
after
another :)
 
7:14 AM
@balpha, ok, point taken.
Let me star that :)
 
oh, and I'll look at the rooms
just flag something for mod attention for now -- I'll see if we can come up with some automation
(or if we even want to automate some kind of "closing rooms as duplicates")
 
@balpha, prevention is better than cure, so at the least a warning on identical (case insensitive) room names. Or even easier - a "please check for existing rooms" message on the Create room page
 
yeah, that might help if the First Law Of The Universe didn't exist
People don't read
 
@balpha, yeah, there is that problem... (I'll let you mentally paste in the Gary Larson comic)
 
@balpha Yeah, it's amazing how many people overlook the multiple FAQ links...It's even pinned in The SO Tavern! sigh
 
7:21 AM
@TimStone, one guy yesterday assumed it was the stackoverflow faq, because it was under the stackoverflow logo.
 
We should also automatically move everyone who writes just "test" to the Sandbox. ;)
@Benjol Heh, I see.
 
To be honest, an FAQ is a bit like a EULA: "yeah, yeah, yadda, yadda, scroll down, Next"
But at least when there is one, you can say RTFFAQ :)
 
But this one has shiny pictures! People have no excuse.
 
@TimStone, shiny pictures of who, I wonder? :)
 
Cool people, of course.
 
 
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10:40 AM
@balpha I currently get notified when messages go to "@Tom", which is fine. Unless there's someone whose name actually is "Tom", in which case I would prefer not to get a beep. Is it possible to notify both users on partial match but only one of them if there's 100% match with the nick?
 
 
2 hours later…
12:33 PM
Issue: YouTube oneboxes appear as in the "other rooms" feed displayed on the sidebar
Hmmm... and just like that @MarcGravell left the room. Seems like he doesn't like me :(
 
12:50 PM
@balpha Sometimes a comment merits a longer response without the untidiness and confusion of other users' comments in between. I don't really see either why you would want to impose a writing style on your users.
People will use single line comments when it's appropriate
If you insist on the single line format, then I think you should at least offer a way to logically continue a previous comment ... I think we all know that people tend to ignore things that aren't all in one place.
 
 
1 hour later…
2:31 PM
@Benjol I'm not sure what your point is :P
 
2:58 PM
@MarcGravell Double post galore! Well, not really. But it is getting more often, anecdotally anyway.
in JavaScript, 6 mins ago, by rchern
did you intsall from stackflair? uninstall and use http://stackflair.com/SEChatModifications.user.js
in JavaScript, 6 mins ago, by rchern
did you intsall from stackflair? uninstall and use http://stackflair.com/SEChatModifications.user.js
in JavaScript, 3 mins ago, by Nick Craver
See if this gives any issues: http://www.jsfiddle.net/nick_craver/5K33F/
in JavaScript, 4 mins ago, by Nick Craver
See if this gives any issues: http://www.jsfiddle.net/nick_craver/5K33F/
In the Javascript room just now. Actually, I think it'll be easier if I just bookmark it

Double Post Galore

9 mins ago, 4 minutes total – 11 messages, 4 users, 0 stars

Bookmarked 9 secs ago by Yi Jiang

 
@balpha - you see the 503s coming out?
 
@Raynos Both of their names start with "Tom", so saying @Tom will notify both of them
 
@NickCraver the should have stopped about at the time of your tweet
are you still seeing them?
 
in Chat feedback, 4 hours ago, by Tomalak
@balpha I currently get notified when messages go to "@Tom", which is fine. Unless there's someone whose name actually is "Tom", in which case I would prefer not to get a beep. Is it possible to notify both users on partial match but only one of them if there's 100% match with the nick?
 
last one was 5 min ago, i'll keep it open
 
3:11 PM
@YiJiang how do i notify Tom but not Tomalak ?
 
@Raynos See my previous message. :) I don't think that this works currently.
 
@Raynos You need to reply to one of their messages, with the reply button that appears beside every message
 
hehehehe somebody else took on the role of wireshark for me?
 
@Tomalak Pretty sure it's status-bydesign, and will not be fixed.
@rchern @NickCraver is the <del>victim</del> guy this time
 
@YiJiang But it would be an easy fix, at least I would guess so.
 
Tom
3:13 PM
Seems like a design flaw to me, should not notify you if something is directed to my exact name
 
but i could use @Tom and mean @Tomalak
 
:42334 Tim's pretty common too, if you're hoping for a relief from this :P
 
this becomes more evident if there was a Tom <LastName>
 
@Tomalak Ah I see what you mean
 
Tom
rchern, well you should see that if you press tab there is a real Tom so it doesn't make sense to call him Tom when I'm here =p
 
3:14 PM
@rchern Would be okay as long as it is unambiguous, but in this case it isn't... :\
 
Tom
@YiJiang, true ;)
 
@Tomalak, per your proposal, you'd miss alerts >_>
 
Tom
rchern, why? people won't call him Tom when there is a real Tom don't you think
 
No, I would not, because if there's someone called "Tom" online, messages for "Tom" would be for him by default.
 
that doesn't stop me from using Tom but meaning you though
 
3:16 PM
You could expect from people to resolve ambiguity by means of thought :-)
But you can't expect that from a machine.
 
Hey, guys, off-topic. Move this discussion to the Feedback room please.
 
@YiJiang Tried to, nobody there.
 
@Tomalak This came up several times already. There's even a MSO question I think
 
think about the user "Marc" vs the user "Marc Gravell" and addressing the latter just by his first name.
 
32 messages moved from JavaScript
 
Tom
3:20 PM
Hi, this is Tom.
 
That's better nice and clean
 
!!
you added my feature request!
 
which one?
 
indication of which messages were moved
 
huh?
you mean the arrows?
that's been in for ages
 
3:21 PM
>_>
seriously?
 
@balpha I've always thought they were pretty ugly.
 
@YiJiang agreed, I hate them :)
 
Being wanting to ask you to remove them, and only leave a message before and after the whole chunk to indicate it
 
still doesn't help if the messages aren't on your screen right then
@YiJiang, wouldn't work. messages moved don't have to be contiguous.
and what if there was a conversation in here at the same time
it'd be all interspersed
 
Tom
Is this chat application open source?
 
3:24 PM
no
 
Tom
Alright, thanks.
 
I don't know, maybe we could just box the whole thing up. Splicing two (most likely) unrelated conversation together won't look good either
Even if they were occuring at the same time
 

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