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user924016
13:00
https -> http
Either http:// or https:// URI scheme required for HTTP socket checkout
> X-Akamai-Transformed: 9 - 0 pmb=mRUM,1
user924016
okay last one..
13:02
I think they might have different routing for inside the UK to outside.
user924016
anyways Jeeves is cool
Connection to tcp://0.0.0.0:8080 failed: timeout exceeded (30000 ms)
user924016
@Danack yea it seems like that or flushing the certs in the browser
user924016
you got some HSTS error right? oh nevermind I was confusing HSTS with something else
yes - but also I'm still being redirected to HTTP when I request the HTTP version from a browser, but not the command line.
I had to delete it from chrome://net-internals/#hsts apparently
user924016
13:13
yea, I think I tried that before
user924016
sometimes it might also get klogged up in chrome://dns/
I think their site is partially serving some requests by https. I have the https everywhere extension loaded - and it was getting confused, thinking that https should be working for the site + the HSTS being set - which presumably could only happen if they enabled HSTS for a time?
@Sara what's your reason for the no here?
likely that it just doesn't achieve what it sets out to achieve ... the author talked about unifying configuration between windows and nix, and that just isn't happening ...
It's unifying at least that part isn't it?
The part that most end users will have to use
13:22
well, no, all users have to use paths
they are required to load any extension at all
and they are very different in nix and windows
You mean the ./ext thing?
in windows yeah, but in nix, it has some complicated default
mods enabled ftw :)
Or however it's called ;-)
anyway, you see the point ... it doesn't achieve anything really useful ...
the problem of configuration belongs in the hands of sysadmins and package maintainers ...
if it's a problem ...
yeah tnx
Escpecially the latter I actually question
> if it's a problem ...
The rfc states;
> this is a real issue for newcomers.
13:25
yeah, I'm not sure about that either, but even if we accept that it is, this doesn't solve that problem ...
I'm not sure
fair enough
tnx
Can anyone explain the scope of wiki.php.net/rfc/url-opcode-cache ?
would it allow non-php files to be cached?
yes, but narrow scope, it's talking about caching phar archives
Wes
Wes
\o
I'm not sure why you would want to cache non-php files, but I guess you could, by abusing what it proposes (an extension to stream wrappers)
o/
user924016
13:28
Danack I dunno, I dont see any hsts headers, and it probably isnt in the chrome hsts list (I guess it wouldnt load http then) .. Could be yea, the ext. seeing the strict transport headers at some point at remembering it, makes sense to try and enforce after it has been seen
that's some top level off-topic right there ...
oh oh @brzuchal @Danack the voting closed on object typehint ... please move the rfc and announce result on internals ...
moar top level off-topic :)
@JoeWatkins so...currently code loaded from phar files doesn't get processed by opcache at all? Or is this just for webservers that are loading code from phar files, where the opcache isn't storing the optimised version of the code?
(btw I privately emailed Rowan to ask him to stop replying to certain people.)
great_success.gif
wait, the patch isn't what I expected ...
it's only the streams half
I think
@Danack Well the only real use-case would be if the phar was included in a performance sensitive application, in which case, probably doing it wrong
yeah I see no way for opcache to actually use the feature, maybe that's in another pr, or down to dmitry to implement ...
13:34
But hey, it's PHP, we'll cater for the 0.0001% use-case
-#define PHP_API_VERSION 20160731
+#define PHP_API_VERSION 20170109
another use case may be pre-compiled-to-php templates that you want to cache
maybe they don't reside on the disk ...
@Danack well that makes it PHP 8 minimum
wait... I think... actually no, damnit
But that gets increased during major version release, shouldn't be part of the patch
@Leigh it changes the struct for streams....which means something something.
+#if PHP_API_VERSION >= 20170109
+ phar_wrapper_cache_key /* cache_key */
+#endif
That stupid though. PHP shouldn't be checking for its own version number.
sure, I get why it's been done, it's just not his place to do it. needs to leave it alone and adjust the condition
PHP_API_VERSION > 20160731
although that wont build for testing... how about he doesn't put the condition there at all, because the version const will be incremented anyway during release, and his code will only be in that version
13:42
> PHP shouldn't be checking for its own version number.
yes.
someone know how to integreate skrill.com in a transparent checkout? I am trying but their documentation is horrible
@Tiffany I googled it, nada, also that site doesn't have anything going on, for me
@Leigh huh, wonder if it's region based?
13:47
@Tiffany Nope ibtimes.co.uk/…
looks like you have been chosen ;)
rofl
yeah right
I'll still play the game though, why not
i have problem with use if bootstrap admin side and frat side
i am facing that Uncaught Error: Bootstrap's JavaScript requires jQuery version 1.9.1 or higher
@Tiffany You actually have the option to log in without having visited before?
online i am facing that problem but in my local system its work properly
@PrashantBhatt you need to have a higher jquery version
@PrashantBhatt replace your jquery to this <script src="https://code.jquery.com/jquery-3.2.1.min.js"></script>
13:52
@OtávioBarreto ok
@Leigh yes
Saucy
Good luck :)
I have a tab open to Codecademy for python, wonder if that has anything to do with it
Anonymous
no, it's because of what you searched for :)
but @Leigh didn't get it
Anonymous
13:53
it's random. I got it a while back while searching for the exact same thing :)
but Jay was on Codeacedemy for PHP ;)
Anonymous
lol
Was he?@!
Anonymous
I was on Codeacedemy for Laravel actually, thank you very much.
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@OtávioBarreto does not work
13:55
@PrashantBhatt did you removed the other version and replaces twith this new cdn?
@JayIsTooCommon Were you there to learn to eliminate your visual debt?
Can we get a visual debt t-shirt? I'd wear this at a conference
@PrashantBhatt type $.fn.jquery in your console you probally have another version running somewhere
You guys, there's an appropriate place to talk about jQuery... chat.stackoverflow.com/rooms/17/jquery-helpdesk
@OtávioBarreto i am facing that problem with Chrome in mozila its work properly
Wes
Wes
13:56
i would wear that :B
@PrashantBhatt go to inpect element -> console and type $.fn.jquery
than show the result
Anonymous
@Jimbo it'd have to be a vest. 'I removed the sleeves because.. blah blah I'm funny'
Why does it ask me to solve this in python or Java. I've pretty much purged Java from my memory, and I know only a sliver of python's syntax. x_x
@Leigh nice touch on the room name ;)
@Tiffany Because if you want a job at Google you'll want to know one of those Python
Anonymous
13:58
yeah nice touch @Leigh
I like to touch things
2
that brings me to a question. 17 hates jQuery with a fierce passion, why does 11 hate Laravel so much?
@OtávioBarreto u r right
"1.8.2"
Anonymous
we neeeeed a canon laravel.
Anonymous
someone write one.
Anonymous
13:59
@Jimbo
@GNi33 Let's not get into this discussion right now :P Also we hate jQuery
is there any specific reason or just bloated framework that does too much - reasoning?
@GNi33 Because the people involved with the framework have more then once shown utter stupidity. Making idiotic statements about software development in PHP. You just can't take them seriously.
haha, okay. Shouldn't be a discussion, I was just curious
Wes
Wes
done
Anonymous
13:59
sickening.
@PrashantBhatt you should remove the 1.8.2 jquery links and replace for the <script src="https://code.jquery.com/jquery-3.2.1.min.js"></script>
3.2.1
@Oldskool ah, I see
@Wes erm, just place the barrel on the floor ... the wooden trolley is just visual debt ...
Wes
Wes
right
@GNi33 Have you ever looked at how it works under the hood?
14:01
It's not just that, but the general attitude of the community, the leadership (toxic) and all best practices are thrown out the window in the name of rapid application development
user924016
You know they will all convert to Ruby on em Rails..
There's a group of people who care about what they make and how, and take pride in their work. This is not them
Also, I care about performance
someone can help me to integrate skrill payment gateway?
and the ability to debug simple things without 40-line stack traces
And explicitness and verbosity
14:04
Industry standard terminology and best practices don't exist there, using it definitely does not add to your career potential as a language-agnostic developer
user924016
@OtávioBarreto what do you need help with?
@Jimbo You'd have to advertise yourself as a Laravel developer... not a PHP developer... that alone should put people off.
@RonniSkansing I am trying to integreate skrill to my website start accepting payments
user924016
Sounds great @OtávioBarreto
@OtávioBarreto And what is the specific error you are encountering? :)
14:06
@Leigh Exactly. If going less generic with PHP wasn't bad enough, going to the framework level is not great for your long-term career
@Leigh 40 lines?
That's nothing
:P
@PeeHaa thats like a missing ) in a front controller
Exactly :)
@Leigh skrill.com/en/merchants/integration their documentation is not clear
still not specific enough
Nobody here is going to read a full pdf of documentation to help you, what is the exact specific error you are encountering when you have tried to implement their API?
I am trying to implement, but I don't know what to do, they do not have code samples
user924016
@OtávioBarreto the pdf is descriptive enough I think
14:11
FFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU.jpg
@RonniSkansing I think I need to submit a form to moneybookers.com/app/pay.pl
user924016
Do you know how to use a API?
yes
but it's very unclear, the documentation
user924016
no
user924016
Have you read it?
user924016
14:13
but are you sure that you need that API?
I shuld make a form to <form action="https://www.moneybookers.com/app/pay.pl" method="post">
but It redirects to skrill site
how to make all process inside my site?
transparent checkout
3v4l.org/SujaZ - First or second (coding style question)
user924016
@OtávioBarreto The API is used for the following functions:
• Refund Quick Checkout / Wallet Checkout / 1‐Tap payments. (where available)
• Transfer Money to another Skrill Account (send money).
• Taking subsequent 1‐Tap payments (after the initial setup payment)
@Jimbo usually the second, but sometimes the first.
First but wrapper is a bad name
:)
14:17
Yep, it is
user924016
.. first (= ..
Oh, I didn't know you like visual debt @PeeHaa.
@Danack :D
Anonymous
@Jimbo second
Damn, this is just another opinion one isn't it
14:19
Nope
I already told you the single true way
PSR-2 extended actually states the second one
Anonymous
I already told you the single true way
Because long variable names make it look crap
@Jimbo Reason the more to trust me
(But I prefer first)
14:19
@Jimbo True
But the times that are happening are not that often (at least for me)
Anonymous
If @PeeHaa does it, you probably don't want to
Also a very valid point
user924016
@OtávioBarreto did you understand what I was pointing to?
@RonniSkansing yes
user924016
So I guess now you are looking for something more like skrill.com/fileadmin/content/pdf/…
14:22
Thanks I will check
user924016
np good luck on the payment gateway integration, hope it brings in some $
@RonniSkansing Thanks man :)
good morning
user924016
hello
14:29
hello
hello
Mar 14 at 0:35, by Danack
7 mins ago, by Danack
Hello, I am Galstaff.
@PeeHaa hi
@OtávioBarreto r u there??
@PrashantBhatt yes
14:32
still there is problem with that
in moziila $.fn.jquery
"2.1.4"
in chrome $.fn.jquery
"1.8.2"
Looks like you have multiple jquery cnd links
is it possible??
you should keep just 1 jquery cnd per page
@OtávioBarreto i am already change jquery but after that its stop work in Mozilla also
@PrashantBhatt you have sure you don't have any other version in the includes?
14:38
?> is evaluated when commented with // but not when between /* and */ – #74692
@OtávioBarreto yes
@PrashantBhatt what is your website?
@Danack That is amazing
The way I can run a joke right into the ground, and yet still keep going?
I don't think that one will ever get old
14:44
@PrashantBhatt throw new Error("jQuery requires a window with a document");return
salvatore.css not found
Uncaught TypeError: a(...).find(...).andSelf is not a function
at c.<anonymous> (owl.carousel.min.js:2)
at HTMLDivElement.e (jquery.min.js:2)
at HTMLDivElement.dispatch (jquery.min.js:3)
at HTMLDivElement.q.handle (jquery.min.js:3)
at Object.trigger (jquery.min.js:4)
at HTMLDivElement.<anonymous> (jquery.min.js:4)
at Function.each (jquery.min.js:2)
at r.fn.init.each (jquery.min.js:2)
at r.fn.init.trigger (jquery.min.js:4)
at e.trigger (owl.carousel.min.js:1)
it lloks a problem in your jquery function
@OtávioBarreto ok
u also have 2 jquery versions
<script src="jquery.min.js"></script>
<!-- jQuery Easing -->
<script src="js/jquery.easing.1.3.js"></script>
<!-- Bootstrap -->
lol flags
:37436757
like. someone asked him for the link to his website and it gets validated? am I missing something here?
14:48
is_file doesn't parse php://filter format – #74693
huh what did I miss?
Anonymous
i dunno but lemon is here, so must be a flag.
> what's your website
<links website>
then his link was flagged and validated
That's offensive as fuck
:P
Anonymous
agreed
14:49
Maybe get @MadaraUchiha to fix it. Not sure what's going on
Anonymous
!!mods MadaraUchiha
@MadaraUchiha sucks
@PrashantBhatt did you downloaded this bootstrap templete from freehtml5.co?
lol it wasn't even about the site contents
which one? templete name?
14:51
much confuse
15:02
> Coal industry welcomes Donald Trump's climate change move
Cannot get the scene from The Naked Gun (2?) out of my head
with all the people from energy sectors
The Society for MOre Coal Energy (SMOKE)
@DaveRandom only that probably won't save the old coalmine towns
those are fucked up, and would require extremely large investments to to fix
hell ... they would need a large scale re-location, but you cant do that in USA
Yup, this is an issue the brits are intimately acquainted with, we went round this almost 40 years ago
Anonymous
but May is too busy licking his ass.
issues are slightly different but the end result is the same
Anonymous
I don't want Corbyn or May
15:07
If we took the unemployed, buried them applied heat and pressure, we'd have more coal
4
Anonymous
lol
@JayIsTooCommon You're getting one of them, it's not optional, might as well pick one
Personally I'd rather just rebrand the UK as Scotland and have Sturgeon. Kills a lot of birds.
Anonymous
@DaveRandom i'd rather not
@JayIsTooCommon fine, then vote for literally anyone other than May. Vote for @PeeHaa's mother.
Anonymous
@PeeHaa's mother always gets my vote.
15:10
yay
Anonymous
@DaveRandom is corbyn lesser of the two evils for you or are you actually a fan?
I'm voting for Labour's policies, not for him.
which, btw, is what everyone should be doing, the people aren't actually that relevant
I remind you that no-one voted for May to be PM, yet she is/was
I'm kind of indifferent to him though, I don't really get the vitriol that's levelled at him, or the adoration from the other side
Anonymous
eh, i dislike them both. I might just move to Norway
I have semi-seriously considered moving to Germany or Canada
Anonymous
Germans are weird, Canada would be nice though.
Anonymous
15:17
or Lauterbrunnen, Switzerland
Yeh that sounds like a good place for a lout such as yourself
Anonymous
they'd love to have me.
@JayIsTooCommon this is the last I will say on the matter: vote however you like, including spoiling your ballot if that's your thing, but if you don't bother voting I will be severely unimpressed.
> Why isn't Laravel suitable for "enterprise-grade" applications like Symfony and CakePHP?
Defenstration intensifies
@Danack Wait... CakePHP became an enterprise grade framework?
15:33
@Danack Who defined enterprise-grade? Where is this list
@Jimbo Gene Roddenberry
I actually googled that...
get out.
"gene roddenberry enterprise grade framework"
Anonymous
15:37
@DaveRandom I'm not out to impress anybody and no I probably won't. Voting for promises that won't be kept or voting for a losing party doesn't interest me.
> I'm not out to impress anybody
:(
It's still working though <3
Anonymous
lol <3
Evening r11
\o
Anonymous
15:42
yo linusus
Yo yo Jay
Wes
Wes
Notice: Only variables should be passed by reference... i have no references involved at all. why does the universe hate me
im such a noob
May 26 at 20:20, by Wes
i keep losing hours on the stupidest issues...
You sure you are not burning out? :)
Wes
Wes
definitely
but that started like 10 years ago
Definitely sure or definitely burning out? :P
Wes
Wes
15:54
definitely burning out :B
user924016
@Wes you are probably passing a literal to a method that takes a reference
If we took the unemployed, buried them applied heat and pressure, we'd have more coal
Wes
Wes
@RonniSkansing had function(&$a) use($b){}, but i meant function($a) use(&$b){}
user924016
ah
15:57
Apparently 1 week to SC
Wes
Wes
coal what, i'm fission-burning out
good job I got a reminder email
Wes
Wes
i can light an entire city
I totally forgot... and I didn't get accomodation yet
Anonymous
@Leigh @NikiC reminded me. Still need to book that hotel...
15:57
lol that's the 3rd time I see that
You are all bad
my heart clearly isn't in it right now
or any of my other organs
Organs are overrated imo
Anonymous
Anonymous
oops, how did that get in here.
hehehe
I am 99% I can't make it now though :(
Anonymous
15:58
oh fuck off
But phpnw maaaaaaybe
Yes I know :(
I am bad and I feel bad
Anonymous
I purchased a new thong and everything :(

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