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4:00 PM
I won't. If I want this for realz, I will learn Haskell, Purecript or await C++35
 
@sehe Once we have a "pack-ize" operator, we could write make_tuple(*[:]mytuple...)
 
That's basically my "distributive". Maybe in C++31 then!
 
@sehe There is a corresponding proposal, which I know because I was drafting one as well until I realized I had been preempted
So could well be in C++20
 
C++ died in 2014 anyway
 
Hexadecimal
 
4:07 PM
for god's sake
 
@BoundaryImposition I kinda knew he was Indian before I looked at the user name
 
casual racism nice
I could probably get you suspended from chat for 30 mins for that ^_^
 
TIL some jQuery syntax
 
@BoundaryImposition I really doubt that suffices, but give it a try
 
@Columbo I'll wait until you can't delete it
@sehe which one?
 
4:10 PM
That one you linked - I'm not Indian btw
 
@BoundaryImposition Good effort mate
 
@Columbo sehe ruined it
 
I'm fun at parties
 
bet you're good at capture the flag, anyway
 
@sehe You're also fun in lounges :-)
 
4:11 PM
Almost equally
 
@sehe there are multiple jQuery features represented in that image. which one is new to you?
 
Oh, all of them, likely. However, the one that I latched onto was the one featured by the OP: $('TAG') vs $(<TAG>)`
I didn't know. (I never needed to know)
 
Right, I was asking whether you didn't recognise $('TAG') or you didn't recognise $('<TAG>') (don't forget the quotes) but I've sort of lost the will to live now
 
I've not realized $('<TAG>') is a factory before
 
@KevinB: That's why people need to stop relying on one-hit "searching" to jump straight to the answer they need, and go back to the good old days of reading and studying. (Believe it or not, we were able to create computer systems before Stack Overflow existed to do our research for us; the only difference now is that the effort is made by the experts, not those with the most to gain by actually performing that research.) In this case, scrolling through just a few pages of the jQuery manual should do it. — BoundaryImposition 1 min ago
ok so I'm a little grumpy today, but I still don't think I've summed it up as neatly as that before
@sehe okay
@sehe how did you create elements?
@BoundaryImposition: I'll continue to err on the side of trying to help people. Thanks. — David 13 secs ago
ugh DIAF
 
4:18 PM
@BoundaryImposition 10 for neatness. -10 for complete lack of accuracy.
 
@BoundaryImposition Not :)
Well, I might have, but not using jQuery (directly)
 
@BoundaryImposition But obviously, in this case, David knew he was right, so he didn't have to give you the possibility of signalling disagreement with his message
 
@Columbo he arrogantly assumed there was no way for him to be mistaken, yes indeed
@Columbo it is not up to the author of a statement to judge the likelihood that peer review will be required
how is this not obvious o.O
 
@BoundaryImposition That's my point. We can never know for sure that we are correct, even if we believe to be in a lucid state of mind and having covered all edge cases.
@BoundaryImposition .. which is why I am tempted to say that making any absolute statements with confidence is a bit cheeky
 
as long as we do so within the framework of a handy peer review system it's okay
willfully subverting the entire model is really starting to piss me off though. it's like some sort of resistance movement
if you want to use a different model go use a different model
speaking of which...
@pjcobbrocks5 @raggapegs https://t.co/Be9YsJa1Nv
 
nwp
4:36 PM
John Oliver's summary of Trump fun, in case you missed it
 
4:51 PM
the trailer for Colossal looks superb
@nwp geolocked
 
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Q: Need a solution to this in c, c++ ,php or java

dspahwaThe annual snake festival is upon us, and all the snakes of the kingdom have gathered to participate in the procession. Chef has been tasked with reporting on the procession, and for this he decides to first keep track of all the snakes. When he sees a snake first, it'll be its Head, and hence he...

/cc @Mysticial
 
@sehe when there are a ton of scores for a piece, like op 64 no 2 of chopin how do you choose which to go by?
 
nwp
@BoundaryImposition You can probably find it by searching for "Stupid Watergate: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO)".
 
@orlp preference, or Urtext if you have none
@orlp lolwut, there's one edited by Débussy. That has to be worth some bonus points imslp.org/wiki/File:TN-Chopin_Valses_Durand_9709_Op_64.jpg
Also, some give the appropriate interest in the comments:
> Pachmann's famous fingerings may be of interest to experts;
 
5:10 PM
@Borgleader Aren't some tags missing?
 
Ell
Anybody handy with axiomatic semantics? :D
 
@Mysticial great success
 
Xeo
@Mysticial That anime was not on the list...
 
5:25 PM
@Xeo I know, but I'm enjoying it so far.
 
@Ell I can into Hoare logic if that helps
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes it probably will :3
^that is a small program I'm trying to prove calculates |y|
but my use of the assignment axiom is incorrect
 
Which slide?
 
Ell
last one
 
@Xeo One of my college friends noticed some time ago that a lot of the stuff I watch are fantasy worlds - including all the "thrown into world" shows like SAO, Grimgar, Log Horizon. (though I dropped that last once since it got boring)
NGNL counts as well.
And GATE.
 
5:31 PM
Terminator: Genisys. Why couldn't they do a proper cleanup and actually kill finally?
 
@Ell 0<=y <=> 0-y<=0
Does that help?
 
Ell
@R.MartinhoFernandes yes!
that helps
 
From line 9
 
Ell
thank you!
 
Xeo
@Mysticial Overlord?
 
5:42 PM
@Xeo actually no
 
Xeo
Well do yourself a favor and put it on the list
 
5:59 PM
@wilx who's Finally?
 
@BoundaryImposition Ooops. Lost a word there.
 
@wilx you accidentally a whole word?
 
@BoundaryImposition Yes.
 
6:29 PM
> print("Enter the number of emproyees\n");
can't make this stuff up
 
nwp
> // delete memories
 
FELLAS
 
nwp
"I want to forget, forget, forget ... it ... all." - valkyrie profile
 
wtf....
- coroutine2               : building
and then i look at the log and the only instances of coroutine2 are warnings that coroutine(1) is deprecated
and i have no libs for it :(
 
@sehe im looking at the one by debussy now
(op 64 no 2 starts on page 5)
but at the end of measure 4, going into 5 and then the first chord of 6 on the right hand
is some bizarre fingering
as well as the entire right hand of measure 7
like way more movement than necessary
I guess he wants the best tone quality so takes more awkward fingerings to get it?
 
6:43 PM
haha was wondering why my hand-crafted "profiler" was showing lots of event loop ticks taking more than 1s, but only just
derp; 1s is my failsafe wake interval innit
/me adjusts profiler
 
I can't spot the friggin' problem :(
And also: the second is defined by the frequency of transition radiation of a specific transition in cesium, contrary to any other popular belief.
 
> See also "C:/projects/ci-playground/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeOutput.log".
> See also "C:/projects/ci-playground/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeError.log".
> Determining if the C compiler works failed with the following output:
> Change Dir: C:/projects/ci-playground/build/CMakeFiles/CMakeTmp
read those maybe
@rubenvb we know
 
@BoundaryImposition They're output right below.
all commands nicely return 0.
Locally, that setup works
 
where?
anyway, I dno
 
@BoundaryImposition Under the two "See also", the output of type on the two files is shown.
CI is a PITA
Also, MSVC is a PITA
 
6:58 PM
It's kind of funny how dynamically typed languages like python eventually require test suites and linters for production use. Almost like dynamic typing introduces bugs on a regular basis.
 
@rubenvb Sent you a PM, check out!
 
@Aaron3468 It doesn't introduce the bugs--the programmer introduces the bugs. Dynamic typing just means the system allows the programmer to do so, usually without the slightest complaint, no matter how obvious the problem might be.
 
@JerryCoffin That's harsh coming from a C++ programmer
 
@JerryCoffin I can only imagine python watches as you make the mistake and stares offscreen somewhere as if it knows that you're being stupid.
 
@Aaron3468 It actually will sneak up behind you and choke the life out of you while you're staring bewilderedly at the output of your program.
 
7:08 PM
Nah, that's what C++ does. She's a harsh mistress she is.
 
C++ just explodes in your face. When you least expect it.
 
@rubenvb I always expect it. Maybe that's why it doesn't happen to me.
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Is C++ a statically typed language? Does polymorphism change anything in that regard?
*dynamic, run-time P.
 
@Borgleader
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this code is of none use lol
 
7:20 PM
@BoundaryImposition: If you revisit my comment, and succeed in sustaining your attention span just a few more nano seconds longer, you'll understand that the emphasis was on professional grade quality. — IInspectable 13 secs ago
nice
3 hours ago, by Columbo
@BoundaryImposition I kinda knew he was Indian before I looked at the user name
 
@iksemyonov C++ is a very static/strong language. It uses type coercion for primitives, but not to the extent of popping holes in the typing system. You often have to write wrapper classes. polymorphism is not like static/dynamic typing, nor strong/weak typing.
Only in very limited situations are the three concepts equivalent
 
user784668
@iksemyonov Polymorphism is still mostly static, what with it being an example of nominal subtyping.
 
Of course, C++ is infamous for being a footgun if you like to treat it as C and do lots of pointer arithmetic and bad design.
 
user784668
You're still restricted at the compile time by the base type of whatever you're referring to.
 
COMPUTER: I can render the shimmering fantasy worlds of your dreams 60 times a second ME: search some emails for a string COMPUTER: oh no
 
user784668
7:28 PM
@Borgleader wat, that doesn't even make sense
 
Some people like to render 144+ times a second.
 
user784668
grep foo /var/spool/mail/* or so
 
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Q: Qt installation error on window 7 64bit

FarhanI Got these errors while installing Qt ,with the retry option nothing happen with cancel option it is completely canceled and stop the installation with ignore however the installation completes but qt creator show a error 0x00007b something like this ,i have installed all the microsoft visuall c...

whole question's a link. inventive.
also "kingly guide about this problem"
 
user784668
@BoundaryImposition Kf2
 
@BoundaryImposition That's a new one.
 
7:34 PM
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Q: Is it fine to call users "nerds" in comments?

Alon EitanI recently flagged a comment on a LQ question, posted by the OP in response to other comments letting them know what's wrong with their question. This was his comment: I need an expert advise and that's it. I know that nerds will flag this question as too broad or opinion based. Here is a s...

Meta.
Sigh.
 
Woa.
The tone of the "offending" comment is pretty obvious, but that guy's getting hung up on the "nerds"?
 
also a mod answered in comments :(
 
user784668
@BoundaryImposition Yup, that's definitely the worst thing.
 
I've finally got more than 2000 pokémons in Pokémon Go /o/
 
user784668
7:39 PM
@Morwenn The more interesting thing is that you're the only person in the world still playing Pokémon Go.
 
ouch
 
@Fanael I see people play pokemon go on a fairly regular basis
 
@Fanael Not really. Just the other there was a blitzkrieg in my little town invoving at least 6~7 people that just happened to play at the same place at the same time.
There's still a surprisingly high number of players, even though it's nothing compared to July.
 
user784668
ITT: the Lounge not knowing what hyperbole is
 
@Fanael Don't you know about post-irony?
 
7:41 PM
y = 1/x
 
@Borgleader bet they don't see you, though
@Morwenn is that when you're waiting for a parcel and it's delivered while you're out?
particularly if you're about to get married, and the weather isn't so good...
 
Well, to be honest, I don't know whether the term is actually well-defined.
 
keep using it then, gives you freedom to move the goal posts later ;)
 
user784668
@Borgleader We may move the goal posts, but we always place them 7.32 m apart.
 
user1804599
 
7:50 PM
Everything is 0
 
user784668
@LukaRahne "positive"
 
user1804599
You can't divide by zero.
 
user1804599
Also zero is not positive.
 
You can in limit
 
user1804599
No, you can't.
 
7:55 PM
@rightfold 🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌🍌
Also, 0 is not 4
 
user1804599
If all are 0, you don't get 0 as answer.
 
user1804599
You don't get any answer at all.
 
user1804599
It's not defined.
 
you can brute force, that it’s not possible, can’t you?
 
user1804599
You can brute force, but you will need a tremendous amount of time.
 
7:58 PM
for whole numbers which have to be <= 4?
 
user1804599
All the fruits are greater than 4.
 
user784668
@rightfold It is defined to be NaN, duh.
 
user1804599
They are much greater than 4.
 
I'm brute forcing in Python, but you've just revealed a big clue as to the magnitude of the numbers so maybe I will stop coding
 
user1804599
 
7:59 PM
i fall into mental traps constantly
 
user1804599
^ Here are some hints (also the answer).
 
user784668
@rightfold Back in the day we used x, y and z instead of fruits.
 
user784668
But kids these days don't even know letters anymore.
 
user1804599
Yeah back in the day you didn't have emoji, you were primitive pre-Unicode savages.
 
@Fanael They use emojis.
 
8:00 PM
huh, I got a result under 500
 
user1804599
Then some of the numbers are not positive integers.
 
oh, integer division, haha
 
user1804599
:P
 
user784668
@rightfold Back in the day there was no need for the useless piece of shit that Unicode is.
 
ok seen the answer
that's just stupid
 
8:02 PM
9, 11 and .5 is soltion.
-5
 
user784668
That's not positive.
 
Tried to use the emoji values as integers?
 
buty aou ant not get this triplet to work over positive numbers
 
user784668
@LukaRahne You will.
 
user784668
There is a positive integer solution.
 
8:03 PM
You can multiply this by any value
and get any solution
 
I don't think people are going to help you make a new WannaCry. — NathanOliver 6 mins ago
 
user1804599
@Fanael Oh, no? Well, you are wrong:
 
user1804599
 
@Borgleader username is not suspicious at all
 
user784668
@rightfold What's this supposed to show?
 
user784668
8:05 PM
And how exactly is this relevant?
 
I like the positioning of the legend items there
@Fanael Maybe you don't understand what Unicode is for
 
@rightfold That's a pretty brutal Diophantine equation.
 
user1804599
@Fanael Ever since Unicode was introduced, 1980, things have only gotten better.
 
where is North America on that graph?
Pacific?
 
user1804599
"Least developed countries"
 
8:06 PM
:)
 
user784668
@rightfold So?
 
user1804599
So Unicode is good.
 
user1804599
And therefore emoji is good.
 
the space shuttle program was cancelled in that time also, so Unicode must be bad
3
 
user1804599
8:07 PM
user image
3
 
user784668
@BoundaryImposition Then tell me, what is Unicode for?
 
user1804599
Emoji.
 
@Fanael sanskrit of course
How else could we look up Cult of Fire tracks otherwise?
 
> Unicode is a computing industry standard for the consistent encoding, representation, and handling of text expressed in most of the world's writing systems.
the more cultures make their way into the world of computerz, the more Unicode we need
we didn't need so much of it when it was just two guys in a lab in Iowa or w/e
("we")
 
@BoundaryImposition We also didn't need so much of this platform agnostic voodoo. Just coded in assembly and were happy.
 
8:13 PM
@Aaron3468 yeah but you had no cat videos
 
@BoundaryImposition Sure we did :3
 
Why unicode if there is ascii and trighraphs in C++. Who needs more?
 
wtaf
lol(cats)
@LukaRahne trigraphs are getting taken out
 
@BoundaryImposition we should just get rid of all those idiots who speak funny.
 
8:17 PM
@R.MartinhoFernandes are we including those idiots who randomly duplicate words when they talk?
 
Also burn all historical texts instead of digitizing them.
 
And still, implementations are still allowed to support trigraphs in a funny way x)
> Implementations may choose to translate trigraphs as specified in C++2014 if they appear outside of a raw string literal, as part of the implementation-defined mapping from physical source file characters to the basic source character set.
 
pfft
cop out
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes what so funny here?
 
user784668
@BoundaryImposition Read the quote carefully, and you'll see that it tells you why, back in the day, Unicode was unnecessary.
 
8:27 PM
@LukaRahne they just extended the trigraphs. Why the insist ön showing it as å single glyph is ä mystery to me.
 
(╯°□°)╯︵┻━┻
 
@Fanael Just a heads up LRiO is a bit of a troll sometimes, and I think your sarcasm detector needs a bit of tuning.
 
This is acually operator in some laguage used to raise errors
 
Sarcasm vs. Irony
Fight
 
@Morwenn Isn't it funny. </tread>
 
8:30 PM
How could I know?
 
@Morwenn auto a = Sarcasm(); std::cout << a.to_string() << std::endl; // prints "Irony"
 
user784668
@Aaron3468 Don't know what worse, auto a = Sarcasm() or std::endl.
 
Woops, I need to eat.
 
I think that you are trying to move sarcasm.
 
Gotta be sarcastic somewhere else.
 
8:35 PM
@Aaron3468 I'm no more trolling than Fanael is
@Fanael Right, and also why it's necessary now, which is what we were talking about
 
Yeah, although he misses jokes more often
 
@Aaron3468 so it seems
 
@CaptainGiraffe </trod>
 
user784668
@BoundaryImposition lol
 
@sehe oF COURSE. My bad. HEY CAPS GOES BOTH WAYS!!! =)=)=)
 
8:42 PM
je jesper "Karos Health" what kind of cathouse is that? you trying tinsult and flame but cant program the c++ youtself ....... — xXM4lw4reXx 2 mins ago
 
@LukaRahne Trigraphs were specifically for non-ASCII systems (ISO 646, to be exact).
 
@Borgleader trying to make SO community write malware for me failed, plan B: insult people (context)
 
@CaptainGiraffe Hmmm. Did you develop a drinking problem :(
 
@LukaRahne Would be hilarious if the syntax was (╯°□°)╯︵(ɹoɹɹƎxɐʇuʎS)
 
@sehe More of a gambling problem.
 
8:43 PM
Serious?
(Don't tell me you gamble with the state of capslock)
 
@sehe I won the last cs:go match but I lost the last 4 or so.
 
cs:go - googles
 
"counter strike: global offensive"
 
ooooh it looks like a betting site indeed
 
@milleniumbug Oh dear. Path of least resistance, don't decrypt anything and just print a whole bunch of scary messages.
 
8:46 PM
@milleniumbug I've been trying to offend globally, but so far I seem to be failing. Maybe if I could get myself elected president, then I could offend more people...
 
And he even forgot to include a link to pay
 
@JerryCoffin you jumped high and just slammed it in.
 
@CaptainGiraffe No, that's the people trying to cross the border
 
THIS IS a QUESTION ASKING SITE: I ASKED A QUETSION? can you help me???!!!! i need to build this program for private use — xXM4lw4reXx 29 mins ago
hehe
 
@BoundaryImposition I can't tell if the OP is genuinely trying to make ransomware but is completely incompetent with it. Or if it's just a troll wanting attention. (since you can't tell them apart) But in both cases, the OP can go fuck himself.
 
8:49 PM
@Mysticial arsewipe
 
Have I missed something, or since when is NP = PSPACE?
 
@Columbo Since 30 Sep 2016
 
@BoundaryImposition The Pirate Bay has some recommendations on which brand of batons to use.
 
user784668
@Columbo IIRC that proof is invalid.
 
@Fanael I was gonna say. lol.
 
8:51 PM
@BoundaryImposition Nuked
 
@Columbo But that.. that would "destroy" NP in a sense? Intuition makes it hard to believe.
 
@Columbo arxiv is not peer reviewed
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes from the orbit
 
@R.MartinhoFernandes Why not?
 
Papers like this show up every six months or so
 
user784668
8:52 PM
@Columbo Because it isn't, duh?
 
user784668
You can publish any piece of shit you want on arxiv because it's not peer reviewed.
 
@Columbo Because some people insist on answering in the comments section, and there doesn't seem to be anything we can do about it
 
@BoundaryImposition lolwut that's a new low
 
@Columbo it's a self-archival repository
 
8:53 PM
@BoundaryImposition :D
@BoundaryImposition Oh, thanks. Interesting disproof, actually.
 
@Mysticial I vote "troll".
 
that's right: arxiv is the SO comments section of the academic world
 
Just as a calibration notice. Knuth expects an P = NP algorithm that is very complex, close to being unusable. Source: a knuth "ask me anything session". (edit not proof)
 
pfft what does he know
 
user784668
Complexity classes are interesting only for mathematicians, though.
 
8:54 PM
@CaptainGiraffe Close to being unusable as in, hard to comprehend, or providing no insights into finding polynomial time algorithms for NP-complete problems?
 
user784668
@Columbo NP-complete*
 
user784668
@Columbo And yes, the latter.
 
@CaptainGiraffe I expect an algorithm to generate such a proof. It's just, waiting for it to complete will take longer than the projected heat death of the universe and the outcome is not predictable
 
@Columbo he was saying an extremely high polynomial or limitations of that kind.
 
user784668
@Columbo Consider an algorithm that solves, say, 3SAT in O(log^(9→9→9→9)n) time.
 
user784668
8:56 PM
It's sublinear.
 
user784668
And completely unusable in practice.
 
@Columbo And also hard to comprehend.
 
@Fanael Alright.
 
@Fanael that was also his sentiment.
 
@Fanael what's x→y in maths?
 
8:57 PM
@Mysticial From the name, it's a troll account.
 
user784668
Conway chained arrow notation, created by mathematician John Horton Conway, is a means of expressing certain extremely large numbers. It is simply a finite sequence of positive integers separated by rightward arrows, e.g. 2 → 3 → 4 → 5 → 6. As with most combinatorial notations, the definition is recursive. In this case the notation eventually resolves to being the leftmost number raised to some (usually enormous) integer power. == Definition and overview == A Conway chain (or chain for short) is defined as follows: Any positive integer is a chain of length 1. A chain of length n, followed by a...
 
@Aaron3468 or just young. deleted now anyway (that was quick)
 
@BoundaryImposition That would fall under, "incompetence".
 
Nah, xXM4lw4reXx makes the troll pretty obvious. Age is irrelevant.
 
@Fanael clear as mud
@Aaron3468 I can imagine a 11 year old script kiddie using that nick quite seriously
@Aaron3468 did you never use IRC lol
 
8:59 PM
@Fanael As you seem to be well-versed in complexity theory, can I ask you a question
 
user784668
@Columbo You just did.
 
user784668
And it used up your question limit.
 
If graph reachability is NP-complete, does that imply NP is a strict subset of PSPACE?
 

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