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user1596138
10:00 PM
> With the ability to analyze this information, you can decide if you want to adjust your online behavior or remove certain items from the list.
 
But it's definitely an upgrade over the current history system
 
user1596138
Why would seeing what I looked at make me decide to change what I look at?
 
@Jhawins shame
 
"I look at too much porn"
 
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Yep.
 
user1596138
10:01 PM
What a market...
 
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That's not going anywhere lol
 
I think it's neat
 
who the fuck wants to do anything with their history other than delete it?
 
that's a damn good question
 
I don't want people seeing that shit
 
user1596138
10:02 PM
> image search from the right click menu
 
@Loktar sorry I forgot.
 
user1596138
Ok that's been here for years but cool.
 
user image
3
cc @Loktar @KendallFrey
 
user1596138
> Reenabled default Chromium behaviour
 
user1596138
That's what I read there lmao
 
10:02 PM
and it's not just porn , like google "illinois late term abortion laws" that type of shit , just don't want to be reminded about
lol
 
Kendall Space Program
 
@ScottSelby Only time I use browser history is when I forget the answer to something I found on SO an hour ago
 
@Jhawins That's something I really missed when I switched to vivaldi
So I'm glad it's back
 
user1596138
Lmao seriously they disabled it and are calling it a new addition?? I was kidding baha
 
10:03 PM
What?
 
see...
 
It was never there
Chrome had it
 
user1596138
@Meredith Vivaldi is Chrome.
 
im not going ot get an answer to my queston and I'll just end up fuckin off in here all day
 
user1596138
> Ability to open links in the current tab from the right-click menu.
 
10:04 PM
It's chromium
 
user1596138
In case you don't want to left click
 
WTF is Vivaldi
 
user1596138
1 min ago, by Jhawins
> Reenabled default Chromium behaviour
 
user1596138
@taco Chrome with hipster theme
 
Is Vivaldi interchangeable with Chrome? I like Chrome, but wouldn't mind it being customizable
 
user1596138
10:05 PM
Maybe Vivaldi is for you then.
 
@Jhawins nah, hipsters have no purpose
 
@taco Pretty much
 
chrome has been in the luggage family for decades and it's always been good enough.
 
You can use chrome extensions
 
perfect @Meredith
 
10:06 PM
& it actually has a decent interface
Chrome's UX is god awful
 
Is this an NSA build of chrome? :$
 
Yea.. those confusing tabs and address bar..
 
user1596138
@Meredith Taco Bell App is worse
 
you're a chrome hater
 
@taco Chrome is the nsa one
 
10:06 PM
I don't believe them that they are not tracking everyone's history
 
Vivaldi is made in iceland
 
user1596138
@Luggage Hipsters are terrible at using programs.
 
Buttons are too mainstream
 
Ok but you have to switch tabs to chat in here
tab switching loser
 
CTRL + TAB
no buttons for me
 
10:07 PM
those are buttons
 
user1596138
@Meredith Yea, that's super difficult I see why you have issues.
 
I can switch tabs by dragging my mouse
 
scroll wheel on the topbar
 
user1596138
@Meredith Tell us the whole story heh
 
in linux at least
 
10:08 PM
You know those babies who use iPads at 1 year old? They're probably going to become developers and get rid of buttons on everything in 10 years.
 
user1596138
You don't simply drag the mouse. That would make your PC unuseable if it triggered tab changes
 
You hold down right click
 
I test UX design with my 2 year old
 
right click drag left: next tab
right click drag right: previous tab
 
user1596138
So hold right click and drag?
 
10:08 PM
Yeah
 
user1596138
How many more muscles does that take than control + tab?
 
Maybe those babies will work on Windows 12. It'll be two titles, that's it.
 
RedBox has mastered it, pretty much unconsciously making yohu press the red button to enter oyur email instead of the disabled looking gray no thanks button
 
I don't have to move my left hand
 
user1596138
I have to take my hands off the keyboard to switch tabs in Vivaldi?? That's bunk
 
10:09 PM
@Meredith but you have to move your right much more
moving a few fingers vs right clicking and dragging..
 
@Jhawins You can use hotkeys if you want
 
user1596138
I don't have to move any hands to switch. I can reach Control+tab from resting position. But we're just being picky
 
@Jhawins it's the internet
what else are we supposed to do
 
user1596138
@Meredith Oh but I already have a wonderful browser with millions of dollars and hours put into UX. I don't need to
 
But who has their hands on their keyboard while going on reddit lol
Autists
That's who
 
user1596138
10:10 PM
Where is your left hand
 
I'm disinterested in Vivaldi. JHawins is hostile to it. :)
 
user1596138
It's on the keyboard. It always is. And you know it
 
In my hair
 
I don't see the point of Vivaldi
 
user1596138
You typed that with your hand in your hair
 
10:11 PM
Eich's personal advertisement browser was bad, Vivaldi just seems like... why?
 
I took it out of my hair and then typed it then put it back
 
user1596138
I'm not anti-vivaldi I just don't buy into bullshit like "Chrome has a god awful UX" lmao.
 
@Jhawins uhhh.....
do you really wanna know ?
 
The value in things like vivaldi is that the good ideas will trickle back to the mainstream browsers, where I'l be.
 
jhawins just really likes switching tabs
 
user1596138
10:11 PM
I hate tabs. I can't stand how people always have dozens and dozens of tabs
 
user1596138
If I get enough that they shrink I delete some
 
a coworker was trying to sell me on brendan eich's new browser
the one with the 'new ad platform' or w/e
just a bunch of crap
 
does it use his new language, RustScript?
 
the main stream browsers are nowhere near bad enough push me off on third parties, unlike politics
 
I want a browser that just reads my eyes and says like, "yeah you want porn right now" and it sends me to an SO profile
 
user1596138
10:12 PM
Well I guess that's the benefit of Vivaldi. You get to be hip without sacrificing the security of the browser you're pretending not to use anymore.
 
I want my webcam to follow my eye focus from app to app on multi-window layout and switch focus to what I'm looking at when I blink twice.
 
@Jhawins Side panels though
 
alt+tab on the app bar sucks because I have like 25 things open .. end up using my mouse for that
 
user1596138
Distractions? What?
 
And tab stacking
 
10:13 PM
Blink twice should call 911. That's the universal sign for help
 
user1596138
Screenshot us your ultra useful layout @Meredith
 
it can't always focus, what if I'm reading something and typing in the other pane. I still want that
 
that is made up
 
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With chat and rocket science happening in tandem
 
user1596138
Apparently Vivaldi isn't helping much cause u slow
 
10:14 PM
Oh
No I was hiding stuff I didnt want people to see
 
user1596138
hahaha
 
user1596138
I'm just dicking around anyway. Not trying to be genuinely hostile :P
 
regressive-left.org?
 
you forgot to hide buzzfeed
 
10:16 PM
Like I don't link buzzfeed in here literally all the time
 
the real question is does it support dark theme?
 
user1596138
I want to bitch about Ramda now
 
s/link/spam/
 
user1596138
So the docs say this is the pro
 
@rlemon You can customize the theme
 
10:17 PM
@Jhawins ramda is for hipsters
 
@Meredith on so chats?
 
I don't like dark themes though
 
user1596138
 
They depress me
 
if it doesn't, it probably is bad.
 
user1596138
10:17 PM
Look at this bunk example
 
Idk
Oh
 
user1596138
They pretend plain JS is longer
 
user1596138
var incompleteTasks = tasks.filter(task => !task.complete);
 
user1596138
Drops mic
 
Link the extension and I'll try it
 
user1596138
10:17 PM
That vs. var incomplete = R.filter(R.where({complete: false}); wtf is this lol
 
Does the extension work with the mobile theme?
 
extension options you can toggle most everything on/off
 
rambda's value is being composable and 'functional'. it's not always the shortest code for trivial tasks like that.
 
user1596138
Oh and then this right below it
 
user1596138
> (Update: the where function has since been split into two: where and whereEq, and that code won't quite work as stands.)
 
10:18 PM
@Meredith if chrome had mobile extensions I would
 
It works but no offense but you gotta test it on mobile
 
R.filter(predicate) takes a predicate and R.where() makes a predicate out of a sample object
 
@Meredith no I don't. there are no mobile extensions for chrome
 
You can use the mobile theme on desktop
 
user1596138
@Luggage Either way. Vanilla is more concise and obviously more efficient
 
10:19 PM
someone running a mobile interface on desktop is way too edge case to care about
 
user1596138
The front page of the docs thats labeled "Why Ramda" is a scam
 
Then use vanilla. If you don't see the value in it, then it might not be solving problems you have.
 
I mean I uninstalled it for that reason
So is it still too edge case
 
I don't use it. it would be overkill
 
yes
 
user1596138
10:20 PM
@Luggage Well I'm reading a page that is supposed to explain to me why I'd use it is all
 
most of the dark theme complaints went away once I put the colored bars as a toggle feature. the only main complaint I still get is there is no FireFox version
 
That page is likely full of over-simpliied examples. Ramda does things like have a function order that works well for people coming from functional languages (I hear)
 
It burns your eyes on mobile
 
Things that I don't have much use for and it sounds like you don't either.
But I know it has value to some.
 
light themes give me migraines
 
10:21 PM
& the hover effects are pretty glitchy too
 
@Meredith the mobile interface is a complete ui re-write, I would be surprised if it worked in the slightest
 
Yeah I'm sure
 
user2620028
i like the idea of dark themes but personally they make everything so incredibly unreadable
 
let me disable the colors and show yall
with and without
I prefer with, I find it easier to follow which messages are from who
 
bookmark cancer
 
10:23 PM
I like dark themes, but i'm picky about which ones. Some are very low contrast and hard to read.
 
@Meredith yea I have 200 top level bookmarks
 
I have 0
 
like I said earlier, the ones that are not visible on the bar I keep around for auto-complete easy
when I clear my history those still complete in the address bar
 
Idk I never type urls into my address bar
 
@Meredith how do you navigate?
no bookmarks, no typing urls...
 
10:27 PM
Vivaldi defaults to Bing. Uninstalled!
 
Most sites are on my speed dial when I open a new tab
 
do you have some sort of like "blink twice for buzzfeed" system?
 
Vivaldi is just set to buzzfeed as the homepage. no navigating needed.
 
fair enough
 
Everything else I just google
 
10:28 PM
sounds like an extra point on the flow of browsing
having to search google for site addresses that is
 
Oh yeah I have custom searches too
 
i do the same in google. i just type in the address bar and it googles.
or auto completes..
 
well yea, but if say I want reddit, or like imgur. It is super simple to just type the web address
a lot easier than typing "imgur" and clicking on a google result
 
I just open a new tab and click on reddit
 
amazing
 
10:30 PM
so, basically a bookmark
 
It's a speed dial
 
you can call it whatever you like
 
It's a *69
@Meredith but seriously it seems ok. Might use it for a while. Thanks :)
Ah, I see. There is literally a Speed Dial bookmark folder.
 
Btw the note feature is nice for saving imgur links instead of bookmarking
I never use it though cuz I never save links
 
It's fine. Vivaldi goes and does a different take on things, and the good ideas will float to the surface.
I'm glad some people, like @Meredith, are out there using something new so I don't have to.
 
10:34 PM
I'm using the new version of chrome
does that count?
not like, Canary or anything, just update regularly
 
Who had tabs first? Opera? That was the best
 
Opera also used to embed ads into the browser
so yea..
 
being first isn't everything. Look at MySpace.
and Yahoo
 
both still make money
 
and every first post ever
 
10:35 PM
so there is that
 
What's nice about vivaldi is that it's made in node-webkit
 
shoulda used Electron
 
Which is something that I want to support
 
👎
 
It predates electron as far as I know
 
10:35 PM
yea, and DOS predates Windows 10
which is better :P
 
That's an unfair analogy
 
you just said being first isn't everything
I'm taking it to the extreme ofc
 
shit.
 
It's not like nw and electron are that different
 
I've used both, imo Electron is much easier to use and deploy
 
Hi, is there someone here that have an experience with JavaScript and OpenLayer.Map to build up a map on Joomla article? setting the map to be shown on a parent page div. It seems that I can't get it work. any ideas? thanks
 
otherwise, yea, they're pretty similar I suppose
 
@AryeGuetta Welcome to the JavaScript chat! Please review the room rules. Pleasedon't ask if you can ask or if anyone's around; just ask your question, and if anyone's free and interested they'll help.
 
So more like a Windows Vista vs Windows 7 thing..
 
yea, but everyone agrees 7 is way better :D
 
10:37 PM
That's kinda my point, though. electron is the 7.
but yea.. if vivaldi was around before electron, then you can't blame them
 
the agreement on electron > nwjs isn't as wide felt i think
 
also, that differnce is a small concern.
 
Installing Node on Ubuntu...just got an SSD and decided to start over.

I ALWAYS have this problem on Linux boxes when installing Node and can't find the article I always find.
"npm root" is wrong, but the prefix is correct.
 
cd
curl -sL deb.nodesource.com/setup_7.x -o nodesource_setup.sh
sudo bash nodesource_setup.sh
sudo apt-get install nodejs build-essential
 
If node-webkit takes a whole week more work to configure, that's still peanuts in a large project.
 
10:38 PM
@Allenph really all you ever need is that above.
installs the latest node7 and npm
then run:
 sudo chown -R $(whoami) $(npm config get prefix)/{lib/node_modules,bin,share}
to fix the permissions
 
well, just never install global modules.
 
webkit and gulp being global are super handy
 
@Luggage Gulp.
 
Not even gulp
 
@Allenph you can run gulp in the context of npm scripts
then it takes the local version
 
10:40 PM
@rlemon Yeah, yeah. But I want to set it up globally.
 
look in youe project's node_modues/bin and you'll see that all the links are there
 
And it's going to be annoying if I HAVE to avoid global packages.
 
@Allenph I agree. I do as well. just saying it isn't required
 
so just put ./node_modules/bin in your path.
 
npm build is as easy as gulp build
 
10:40 PM
Then i'll use the gulp from your current project directory. Never a conflict again.
 
npm root
/home/allen/node_modules
 
without running it or looking at the docs, what do you think the line will return? Array(3).fill(3).map(Math.pow).reverse().reduce(Math.pow)
 
"scripts": {
  "build" : "gulp do-the-script"
}
 
@rlemon And that is not the path I want.
 
using npm scripts is good, too, but that's another concern.
 
10:42 PM
@Allenph I'm not sure what you want. I'm giving you my fool proof node+npm setup steps
 
oops, i mean: ./node_modules/.bin
 
@rlemon Then I would have to uninstall and there will be residuals somewhere on my new shiny drive.
 
not if you uninstall correctly.
which is easy enough for node
 
@towc 0
 
npm config get prefix returns /home/allen/.npm
 
10:43 PM
Right?
 
@towc not what i want because map takes three parameteres
 
@Meredith nope
@derp nope
 
also because i JUST read that in a book
 
npm root and npm config get prefix should result in the same path, should they not?
 
I figured the default accumulator is 0
 
10:44 PM
@Meredith yeah, that's tricky
 
hmm
 
the rest is arguably quite easy, but I got stuck at the reduce thinking that
 
no, reduce() operates differently if you don't supply the initial accumulator
 
Should be 9^3 then
 
more like a fold
 
10:45 PM
yup
 
That's weird behavior
I didn't know it did that
 
i got stuck and had to look up the Math.pow bit
 
In some cases (like just operating on numbers) it will be the same as if it was 0
 
@Meredith 'd you look at the docs?
 
with map passing in the index as the power
 
10:46 PM
@towc For the reduce yeah
 
cheat
 
I already got it wrong
So I just spoiled it for everyone else
 
you spoiled it for the others :P
 
@rlemon I just did your process and ran into the exact same problem I had before.
For some reason I cannot get the gulp command to work.
I don't remember this being an issue last time. What the crap?
 
another question was to codegolf the encoding of frequencies of elements in an array as an object: [ 1, 2, 3, 2 ] => { 1: 1, 2: 2, 3: 1 }
 
10:48 PM
node and npm work?
 
@Luggage Yep.
 
That's not bad
 
I got it in 42 chars (es6)
 
gulp should be where npm is.
if it was installed globally..
 
the guy who proposed it got 38 apparently
 
10:49 PM
$ which -a npm
 
(this was done by hand without any machine/phone in ~3mins)
 
@Luggage /usr/bin/npm
 
$ ls -alh /usr/bin/npm
 
It's definitely an npm root problem.
 
'twas a pre-conference js pub quiz btw
kicked everyone's asses
 
10:50 PM
lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 38 Mar 29 12:10 /usr/bin/npm -> ../lib/node_modules/npm/bin/npm-cli.js
 
a simple one that apparently almost noone knew: 4-~~~~~~-3
 
wait is that the make thing an integer operator?
 
$ ls /usr/lib/node_modules/npm/bin
 
node-gyp-bin  npm  npm-cli.js  npm.cmd  read-package-json.js
 
i see no gulp.
where did gulp go?
 
10:52 PM
cat ../../../../../etc/passwd
 
did you install it again after your reinstalled node?
 
a fun one was: x = x => x = x <= x; x(x)
 
Ouch
I can barely read that
 
/home/allen/.npm/bin/gulp -> /home/allen/.npm/lib/node_modules/gulp/bin/gulp.js
/home/allen/.npm/lib
 
true?
 
10:53 PM
npm prefix is off.
 
yup
 
phew
 
You're supposed to figure out the return value?
 
lol, 'd you console it?
 
10:54 PM
can you solve 4-~~~~~~-3?
 
npm install -g gulp doesn't error @Allenph ?
 
@rlemon Nope.
 
was talking to derp 😛 I'd never accuse you of wrong morals kendall
 
@towc 7?
 
npm list -g gulp
 
10:54 PM
yeah
 
i already typed in what ~~-3 was in the console log
 
what does that show
 
so can't answer that
 
okay this is an actual headline story in Israel: "The grandmother's marriage was canceled - dozens of bastards were saved"
 
@rlemon Already said.
 
10:55 PM
not so hard
 
/home/allen/.npm/lib
 
google translated
 
The prefix is off. Should ~/.npm even exist?
 
I use -~[] in my obfuscated code
 
@Allenph that shouldn't be a npm list output
 
10:55 PM
@KendallFrey apparently a huge amount of developers never come across ~
 
npm list should show the tree with versions
 
not surprising
 
don't lie to me
 
@rlemon
/home/allen/.npm/lib
└── gulp@3.9.1
 
if i saw someone using ~ in code where ~ doens't below
 
10:56 PM
Figured the path was the relevant part.
 
i would likely chuck a fit
 
which gulp
does that list the path?
 
(to myself)
 
@rlemon Nothing.
 
10:57 PM
@KendallFrey eye twitches
 
npm config get prefix  -  /home/allen/.npm
 
@Meredith does Vivaldi support Flash? It's acting like I don't have it
 
then add /home/allen/.npm/lib to your path
 
@taco It does if chrome supports it
 
@rlemon Like in bashrc?
 
10:57 PM
@Meredith works fine in Chrome
 
lol imagine walking into a job interview and they had that printed out on an a4 sheet
 
You probably had to install something to get it to work in chrome too
 
A long time ago
 
what os you on anywys?
 
10:58 PM
ok
 
Ubuntu?
 
isn't ~/.npm like a cache?
 
6 mins ago, by Luggage
did you install it again after your reinstalled node?
 
@Luggage Yeah, I did.
Ubuntu.
16.04 LTS
 
10:59 PM
i mean gulp
 
then what did you do so wrong?
lol
that's my main OS and I've had no problems with what I gave you above on like 4 pcs :D
 
Did you run npm install g gulp after reinstalling node with the Lemon-method?
 

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