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10:12 AM
@giuliolunati Thank you. You should not delete the question, my complaint was only about making it clear that it did not apply to Rebol3 but Ren-C. That question popped up in my mailbox because I follow the "Rebol3" tag, read the questions and eventually answer, if my knowledge allows it. I'm interested in Rebol3, but not in Ren-C. If you used a "Ren-C" tag instead (as Rebol3 runs your function without any error) and avoided prefixing the title with "Rebol3: ", it would have been fine for me.
As a reminder, any derivative work from Rebol3 sources is bound by the Rebol3 license which stipulates in article 6. that derivative work cannot use the product name or trademarks, except for describing the origin of the derivative work. If a derivative work like Ren-C tries to lure users into thinking it is Rebol3, it violates the Rebol3 license.
@giuliolunati If you posts new questions about Ren-C, and if the code you post runs the same both in Ren-C and Rebol3, I see no issue in using both "Ren-C" and "Rebol3" tags in such case.
 
10:58 AM
in [Rebol and Red], yesterday, by rgchris
Official or not, Rebol 3 became a community project upon open-sourcing and community-led when no further updates were accepted 'officially'. It's fair that as the only continuing Rebol 3 development is Ren-C that it be covered by the tag, and by the language tag (which as I suggested before, should be broad).
@DocKimbel You are attempting to speak for a legal issue on a trademark you do not own, on a community site you do not run, in a language with which you are a direct competitor.
This petty behavior does not reflect well on your leadership in open source.
The details of your motivations in this case would make an interesting article.
Under your model of thinking, the idea that reading things like https:// in questions on examples would simply not be allowed, because there was no https support in R3-Alpha.
Note that no one is deceived by your "I care about Rebol3" line - you do not - and your life is made easier if Rebol is not a moving target, because then Red gets to dictate any innovation.
You are quite perfectly aware that nearly every feature in R3-Alpha which deviated from Rebol2 was half-baked and incomplete. Most of the rebol3-tagged questions are "hey, how do I get this Rebol2 thing to work in Rebol3?" where people have to shrug and say they don't know, because it's not implemented or broken or somesuch. And again, asking for the community to accept this as the final word on the project, because it makes your life on your project more convenient... does not fly here.
 
11:30 AM
In any case, there is not now nor will there be a language called "ren-c". If Atronix gets a cease and desist for being the "Primary Code Developers for Rebol" then I guess another name would have to be chosen.
Sorry if you got a mail you didn't want. (awww) But from where most people stand (who aren't you), it's a good thing to have industrial adoption and stewardship of one's code, and to have the language live and be talked about.
 
11:57 AM
@DocKimbel I'll make your life easier. Unsubscribe from rebol3 and stick to the rebol2 tag, since I actually know just about everything there is to know about R3-Alpha and beyond--certainly much more than you do at this point. So if your idea of "helping" is mostly centered around trying to kill off a language, perhaps that's the "kind of help...we all can do without" (as the song goes).
 

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