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10:00 PM
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[ Jeeves ] [ 3362ee0 ] Merge pull request #122 from JayPHP/master Issue plugin - Commited by: Pieter Hordijk on 20.12.2016 21:38
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Anonymous
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10:08 PM
@Ekin fortunately very few vegans own pets ... though I have heard some impressive horror stories
 
@tereško huh, really? I haven't heard any I think, yet
 
10:35 PM
@tereško wow. both these statements are actually false. Normally you have a better accuracy. Had a beer yet?
well, that is for vegans who actually have a clue about anything, otherwise the assumptions can be made of most people on Earth
 
well .. the first on is based on the fact, that, if people stop using products produced by and made from cows, nobody will brow them ... unless you count people who think that gods live in cows
 
... what gave you the notion animals actually need to be grown to exist?
 
domesticated animals do need to be .. emm .. "serviced"
 
Anonymous
@Jimbo ^ I restrained myself here because it's a serious conversation, but the thought was there.
 
heh :p yes indeed. however I am pretty sure that, left for themselves, cows would be able to shit in the woods without needing someone to lift their tails
 
10:40 PM
cows, sheep, chickens cant survive in the wild
 
some of them would die, from their current state
 
@tereško Not anymore. Stupid humans, am I right?
 
Such a shame, I guess we'll just have to keep eating them, for their own sake
 
Seriously though, I can't wait for lab meat to be a viable consumer product.
Beyond the ethical concerns, raising livestock is a tremendous environmental drain.
 
10:42 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier cows, that have been selected to produce milk will actually die if not milked regularly and sheep will loose the mobility due to being selected for growing wool
... and it's said to be and extremely painful death for cows
 
Anonymous
@Charles it's probably the best thing possible for the environment right now
 
@tereško I am not exactly sure how this relates to vegans, nor how this makes their intention being to make said animals to die.. It's not their fault the animals have been grown in that way.
@JayIsTooCommon hmmmmwat? and I say this because you are nice, normally I'd say you have no fucking clue, or explain what you mean :p
 
@FélixGagnon-Grenier if nobody uses the animal products, nobody need said animals
 
... yeah that's the goal? vegans want people to ackowledge we don't need animals to live, so we should let them live (or die) in peace
 
"die out in peace"
 
10:46 PM
or in horrid suffering :p
 
yeah
 
the point is, it makes no sense to say they want animals to die
it's blaming on them something they have no control over
 
the point is that vegans dont tend to think beyond "step one"
 
s/vegans/humans/
 
Step one should really be: demonstrate that food without meat can actually be enjoyable.
 
10:47 PM
@FélixGagnon-Grenier Eliminating the mass production of livestock would be of huge benefit to many environmental causes. Raising cows for meat, for example, is a huge waste (ineffecient use of) of land, food, and water. Methane production is also of major concern.
 
Anonymous
@FélixGagnon-Grenier If you stop relying on livestock to provide meat (i.e. go for labs), a lot of farmland becomes useless. Unless it's used for crops, it would probably be built on. After crops, raising livestock is the main reason for retaining natural land, or have I got his point wrong :P ?
 
@Charles yeah, I am well aware of that.
@JayIsTooCommon No. then you use said freed lands to grow actual food, for humans to eat
 
@JayIsTooCommon We could, you know, build parks and whatnot ^_^
 
@LeviMorrison Bingo. I eat meat because it's tasty, despite all the drawbacks. Vegetarian and vegan stuff is just missing something.
 
Anonymous
yes but that would never happen lets be honest, the bastards would build on that right away
 
10:49 PM
At equal surface, if we were to grow vegetables for human consumption instead of animal consumption, then eat these animals, we would produce a lot more food from the same land
 
@Charles Yeah. I've gone fully vegetarian before just to try it out and that was a HUGE problem.
Now I just mix in vegetarian meals throughout the week.
I grew up on various farms. Not fun work, either, on top of any ethical/morale/crazy reasons to not eat meat or use animal products.
 
@JayIsTooCommon yeah...
 
Anonymous
i.e. raising livestock is a good excuse to not destroy natural land
 
... I wish growing food for your children to eat was also a good excuse for the average entrepreneur to not destroy these lands
 
Join the home-grown food movement!
It's not as hard as you think*!
 
10:52 PM
:)
 
@Charles Indeed methane is a true problem.
 
*Maybe. I mean I can't really know what you are thinking.
But anyway, in case anyone here is actually interested here is a tech meets growing food project: farmbot.io
 
Anonymous
The solution is to genetically engineer plants to absorb methane and carbon dioxide. \o/ - Sorted!
 
Anonymous
am off, night all o/
 
\o nn
There was an attempt to engineer bacteria for CO2 to liquid fuel conversion, but not sure how that sorta turn would end up.
 
11:05 PM
Hi! I am getting this error: "PHP Fatal error: Uncaught Error: Class 'mysqli' not found in C:\inetpub\sites\info.php:8
Stack trace:
#0 {main}
thrown in C:\inetpub\sites\info.php on line 8"
how could I fix it?
 
@Ekin with sun light as input? … because that's an endothermic reaction…
 
@bwoebi correct
it results in isobutanol I think
 
@QuicoLlinaresLlorens you need to enable the mysqli extension in your php.ini file.
 
@Danack I have done
@Danack but I get other error
C:\Program Files\PHP\v7.0\php-cgi.exe - El proceso FastCGI se canceló de manera inesperada
FastCGI exited unexpectedly
 
¡Ay, caramba!
 
11:10 PM
How could I fix that error so?
 
@QuicoLlinaresLlorens no idea. obviously something is falling over....you'll need to figure out what is wrong with your system. Btw have you tried using vagrant, to be able to use Linux for development.
 
I am in windows
I only want to execute a query
of my database server
 
> no idea. obviously something is falling over....you'll need to figure out what is wrong with your system.
 

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